Might be the last one of the season?John Workman - AltLd - 13/Apr/13 with Lex
Timothy Miller - 2nd O/S - Apr/13
Horrible weather but great fun and great route.
Gibson27 - AltLd O/S - 16/Mar/13
PeteLoveless - AltLd O/S - 16/Mar/13 with Ben Gibson
Hidden - 26/Feb/13
DaveJ 11 - 2nd O/S - 26/Feb/13
Led 2 and 4
abbeywall - AltLd - 25/Feb/13 with K
ollyroberts - Lead O/S - 24/Feb/13 with Piers Newton
piersnewton - 2nd O/S - 24/Feb/13 with Olly Roberts
Done before so let Mark have the fun.
michael83 - 2nd rpt - 23/Feb/13 with Mark Mosgrove
Thoms6974 - Lead O/S - 23/Feb/13 with Claire
Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Feb/13
Hidden - Lead - 19/Feb/13
Stunning route in amazing weather. Learned some interesting new Polish words from Andzrej while he heroically tackled the headwall.
iksander - 2nd - 18/Feb/13
Lead all the pitches. Had epic on head wall, but did it without a fall. Did it in Feb last year with big boots on wet rock as summer D, hence "clean with beta" style of ascent. Perfect winter conditions this year!
andrzej kierzek - Lead β - 18/Feb/13
peter neden - Lead - 18/Feb/13
Stewart Armstrong - AltLd - 18/Feb/13 with david wall, Peter Neden
variation to help Darren followed by an escape up chossy snowslopes to the right and a 19 minute run down the goat track and back to the car park to pick people up in the bus.
benkelsey - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/13 with Pete Briggs
A fantastic route in brilliant conditions!
SPD224 - 2nd - 10/Feb/13 with Becky Lee, Martin Smith
Jobbo - 2nd O/S - 07/Feb/13 with Matt Carwardine
Finn Curry - 2nd - 05/Feb/13
Good route as always, great nick today
a pedley - Lead - 02/Feb/13 with Marc Williams
Fantastic day out and awesome climb, although lots of digging for gear required!
Elsier - AltLd O/S - 02/Feb/13 with Koon
Great day out. Climbing conditions were quite good but quite a lot of powder. Lead pitches 1, 3 and 5. True classic climb!!
Koon - AltLd O/S - 02/Feb/13 with Elsie
JamesMortimer4 - 2nd - 02/Feb/13 with Rosie Goolden, Tim Miller
Charlie Zephyr Booth - Lead O/S - Feb/13 with michael kirby
top two pitches are fantastic and threading the fingers a great ending!
Steven Andrews - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/13 with Pete
Hands and knees probably more use than axes. First pitch was interesting!
peter.herd - AltLd - 26/Jan/13 with Steven A
Finished in the dark!! ooops!!
Aufton - Lead O/S - 24/Jan/13 with Sam Crabb
wheelsucker - 2013
Great route, led the crux
Jay C - AltLd O/S - 29/Dec/12 with Mark C
finnaly finnished the route, 3rd time lucky, stunning weather and great conditions, although had to dig through 1ft thick rime to find belays and pro making the route feel harder than last time.
Webster - Lead rpt - 18/Dec/12
alan r b - AltLd - 18/Dec/12
maddy92 - 2nd - 18/Dec/12
Started a bit too far left, ended too far right. All round cock-up. I lead P1, Ben lead a pitch of FR Direct, Kip lead a pitch of Red Gully.
tomwheeler - AltLd - 16/Dec/12 with bencoope
konacol - AltLd O/S - 12/Dec/12 with Gav Swinton
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Dec/12
peter fetlar - AltLd O/S - 11/Dec/12 with stewart
Crag was plastered with this thick useless shit that took ages to clear to get at the features. Went a bit skiwif on the first pitch (followed some insitu gear steeply into a bay, that continued to sketchy slabs) so bailed on that and went out left. Top pitches spectacular - glorious weather!
allyrocke - Lead O/S - 02/Dec/12 with Matt King
2nd grade IV, great route
mattking_109 - 2nd - 02/Dec/12 with Ally Rocke
P1 and 3. first route of the season. good to get back into the swing of things.
benkelsey - Lead β - 24/Nov/12 with Ben Silvestre
Hidden - 2nd - 02/Nov/12
Marcus 1st and 3rd sections, I led the middle.
LibS - AltLd O/S - 01/Nov/12 with Marcus Peabody
A good amount of snow and ice but melting fast. The wind increased as we ascended so the fingers were fun. The final headwall was excellent, looks blank but enough there when you get on it. Felt pretty comfortable with the climbing but struggled with some of the high step-ups due to my lack of flexibility.
Sutty22 - 2nd - 30/Oct/12 with Pat
Tomek S - AltLd O/S - 20/May/12 with Wojtek Polkowski
very dry tool:)
Wojttek - AltLd β - 20/May/12 with Tomek
Tom Davy - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12
Great day out. First grade IV.
Chris Ellyatt - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12 with Tom Davy
Hidden - AltLd - 20/Apr/12
Hidden - AltLd - 20/Apr/12
Lead the first two pitches, was lovely, Alissa's first winter and couldn't do the mixed sections so chose to back off so not to freak her out.
Really need to come complete this at some point.
Kyle Rance - Lead dnf - 12/Feb/12 with Alissa Bray
The Biochemist - 2nd dnf - 12/Feb/12 with Kyle Rance
great fun, bivvied in aviemore then managed to be first team on this. lead all pitches, including tech 5 bit at the top.
JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/12 with Claire
llamaglama - 2nd - 12/Feb/12 with Jam
JRae - 11/Feb/12 with M Watson
mwatson - AltLd - 11/Feb/12 with johnny
First IV :D, fun route, did p2 and 4. Very powdery, with good turf and hooks
radioshed - 05/Feb/12 with Albert P
Nice route, but snow not consolidated at all.
palimer - AltLd - 05/Feb/12
Hidden - AltLd - 05/Feb/12
Snow was quite unconsolidated, so used rock hooks near enough all the way. Great route, and the top pitch (the steep wall beyond the fingers) is very good value!
Ken Applegate - Lead - 03/Feb/12 with Vic
John led. Awesome climbing throughout. First pitch (traverse) was very tenuous. First IV and loving it.
lewiz - 2nd O/S - 02/Feb/12 with Owen John
John Pickles - Lead rpt - 02/Feb/12 with Owen John, Lewis Thompson
Hidden - AltLd - Feb/12
henning82 - 2nd O/S - 28/Jan/12
johannes - Lead O/S - 28/Jan/12
mike.moss - AltLd O/S - 23/Jan/12
Hidden - 22/Jan/12
lead all 4 pitches, the middle 2 twice. had to back off about 3 meters short of the top on the final pitch due to storm force winds,
Webster - Lead - 05/Jan/12
steve-grigg - AltLd O/S - 05/Jan/12
willoates - AltLd O/S - 02/Jan/12 with Steve
Hidden - Lead O/S - Jan/12
Lead P1 and P3. Didnt do top pitch as it was getting late and tom forgot his torch!
Liam Ingram - AltLd - 30/Dec/11 with Tom E
bailed from the top pitch when it got dark and weather turned
The Big Sender - AltLd - 30/Dec/11 with liam ingram
Lean and soft hoar.
brockers - AltLd O/S - 30/Dec/11 with Andy Stotesbury, Maggie Bass
Hidden - 2nd - 30/Dec/11
Steve Woollard - 2nd - 29/Dec/11 with Mark Chadwick
An outstanding line! Great fun climbing around the fingers and then a bit of technical work getting up a short cracked wall before topping out.
benclimbing - AltLd O/S - 23/Dec/11 with Dave Latimer
andysroom - AltLd O/S - 20/Dec/11 with Kilian, Dave Gent
Very strong wind
kiks - AltLd O/S - 20/Dec/11
Alan Dixon - 19/Dec/11
Excellent route, first time on a IV, some great leading by Rob in pretty full on conditions
MrRiley - 2nd O/S - 17/Dec/11 with Rob Reglinski
Hannah Evans - AltLd - 15/Dec/11 with Max Hunter
Ran the last two pitches into one rope stretcher. The drags was horrendous and I had to solo the fingers and the tech 5 wall to avoid placing gear and making it worse!
conorcussell - AltLd O/S - 11/Dec/11
Simply fantastic. Lead 3rd pitch.
samwillo - AltLd - 11/Dec/11 with Rory Brown
Hidden - AltLd - 11/Dec/11
Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Dec/11
Mowglee - AltLd O/S - 11/Dec/11 with Conor
luckyjim - AltLd - 11/Dec/11 with D Helm
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Dec/11
Nice climb, a bit windy on the ridge!
shugsan - AltLd O/S - 27/Feb/11 with Jason King
Was nice to get on the proper route after Euan got halfway up the Direct...
JasonK - AltLd - 27/Feb/11 with Euan Boyd
Spence22 - AltLd O/S - 26/Feb/11 with Guy
All the snow and ice melting fast. Not much fun. Climbed badly.
davefount - AltLd O/S - 23/Feb/11 with Will K
Led P1 and P3. Top pitch was quite black, but quite a lot of iced up cracks.
stuaart - AltLd O/S - 06/Feb/11 with Thomas Smith
thomasaneurinsmith - AltLd O/S - 06/Feb/11 with Stuart Reeves
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Feb/11
naffan - Solo O/S - 29/Jan/11
theotherpetehill - AltLd O/S - 29/Jan/11 with jacob davies
Briwi - 2nd O/S - 28/Jan/11 with phil gibb, Garry Smith
Did in 3 pitches. Led 1st and 3rd pitch
Kirill - AltLd O/S - 28/Jan/11 with Igor Gotlibovych
ig248 - AltLd - 28/Jan/11 with Kirill
LRB - 2nd O/S - 28/Jan/11 with Garry Smith, Mike Gray
Hidden - AltLd - 27/Jan/11
mistertees - 2nd - 25/Jan/11
Adam Booth - AltLd O/S - 22/Jan/11 with Steve Seale
gowla - AltLd O/S - 22/Jan/11 with adam booth
Hidden - 2nd - 21/Jan/11
Hidden - Lead - 08/Jan/11
edmund94 - 2nd β - 08/Jan/11
Ed Feldman - AltLd O/S - 07/Jan/11 with Drew
Glyn - AltLd O/S - 05/Jan/11 with Tom Skelhon, Chris Davis
Betha. - 2nd O/S - 05/Jan/11 with Neil D
tskelhon - AltLd O/S - 05/Jan/11 with glyn hudson, chris davis
Neil D - Lead O/S - 05/Jan/11 with Beth Hodgett
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Jan/11
inuklm - AltLd O/S - 04/Jan/11 with Fiona, Jonny Bull
Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jan/11
jonnybull - AltLd - Jan/11 with Kunal
Hidden - AltLd - Jan/11
Drew M - AltLd - Jan/11 with Ed Feldman
Hidden - 2011
alkira - 2011
alkira - 2011
Hidden - 2011
newtonmore - 2011
mwatson - Lead dnf - 2011
Hidden - 2011
Hidden - 2011
David Sherratt - Lead O/S - 2011
Hidden - 30/Dec/10
Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Dec/10
Hidden - 2nd - 20/Dec/10
Hidden - Lead - 18/Dec/10
tech - AltLd O/S - 18/Dec/10 with Conan Harrod
Conan - AltLd - 18/Dec/10 with Alan Thorpe
Hidden - 2nd - 18/Dec/10
chapmand - AltLd - 18/Dec/10 with Scott Webster
Hidden - AltLd rpt - 17/Dec/10
peter fetlar - AltLd - 14/Dec/10 with Ross I Jones
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 22/Nov/10
Chris L Hill - Lead O/S - 21/Nov/10 with David Marshall
david0811 - 2nd - 21/Nov/10 with Chris Hill
EPIC; claire dropped and lost her belay device before starting pitch 2.bit thin in places and a fair amount loose unusable snow.lucky to get off intact.
melville18 - Lead O/S - 21/Nov/10 with claire melville
Merlin P1 and P3, Me P2 and P4
mark88 - AltLd - 20/Nov/10 with Merlin Andrew
Slow under powder with some nice gnarly bits.
Merlin - AltLd O/S - 20/Nov/10 with Grayham Stephenson
jamestheyip - AltLd rpt - 16/Nov/10 with Suzana El-Massri
Forgot the guidebook and got lured onto the direct by an in situ peg, backed off after some hard climbing.
mikemartin - AltLd dnf - 15/Nov/10
jack_eadie - AltLd dnf - 15/Nov/10
sgl - Lead - 14/Nov/10 with will
Nice and snowy, when everything else in the coire was bare and thin.
Smelly Fox - AltLd O/S - 07/Nov/10 with Mike McGhie
good fun finish through the fingers
michael83 - AltLd O/S - 07/Nov/10 with Tris
Sunny and dry. Did half of the route in bare hands!
jamestheyip - AltLd rpt - 10/Apr/10 with Ben Taylor
Hidden - AltLd - 02/Apr/10
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Mar/10
daWalt - 2nd O/S - 13/Mar/10 with Nigel, dwhaley
Superb route. Very well protected and the exit was great fun.
jamestheyip - AltLd O/S - 07/Mar/10 with Alejandro Garcia
el cholo - AltLd O/S - 07/Mar/10 with jamestheyip
pmurdy - 2nd - 06/Mar/10
Fantastic day out! Leading through the fingers and up the iced wall beyond was absolutely brilliant.
Monkey_Alan - AltLd O/S - 23/Feb/10 with Steve Wales
Kyle Rance - 2nd O/S - 23/Feb/10 with Mark Coupland
Adam1973 - AltLd O/S - 21/Feb/10 with Alex
ewen - Lead - 21/Feb/10 with james swann, clare-dev
Lots of fun. Got a bit scared by the exposure stepping past the finger.
clare-deV - 2nd - 21/Feb/10 with swann, ewen
Roch - 2nd O/S - 21/Feb/10 with MRT
alanramsay - AltLd O/S - 20/Feb/10 with Alastair Ferguson
Lead first pitch and final pitch over pinnacles and top wall.
DavPk - AltLd O/S - 20/Feb/10 with Romain Rebut
Alastair MacSween - AltLd - 19/Feb/10 with Phil Warriner
Hidden - AltLd - 17/Feb/10
Hidden - AltLd - 17/Feb/10
Great route in very snowy condition
LostinLondon - 14/Feb/10
This route is well good!
robertmichaeladams - AltLd - 04/Feb/10 with Joe
Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Feb/10
Hidden - Lead - 01/Feb/10
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Jan/10
John Pickles - 2nd - 30/Jan/10 with Chris Harling, Mark Davies
Andrew.Davies - AltLd O/S - 26/Jan/10 with chris
MarkDavies36 - Lead O/S - Jan/10 with John Pickles, Chris Harling
Climbed in tricky powder snow very slow party in front
rossn - AltLd O/S - Jan/10 with Nick Bryan
MouseHunter - 2010
Hidden - AltLd - 2010
Hidden - 2010
Hidden - 2010
mike.moss - AltLd O/S - 2010
Hidden - 2010
Lots of ice - crux totally buried!
Peter Metcalfe - AltLd - 22/Dec/09 with Jonathan Yates
Second Scottish winter climb. Gear very hard to find as cracks iced up / buried, so quite bold (even on P3, which is meant to have good gear). Led P1 and P3.
Misha - AltLd O/S - 21/Dec/09 with Simon from Leeds
Rob84 - Lead O/S - 18/Dec/09 with Mark Walter
Hidden - 15/Dec/09
d_meacher - Lead O/S - 14/Dec/09 with Hazel
westaway - Lead O/S - 13/Dec/09 with Imelda Neale
t_stork - AltLd O/S - 12/Dec/09 with Marcus Brown
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Dec/09
nicjbuk - AltLd - 10/Dec/09
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Dec/09
joe larner - AltLd rpt - 09/Dec/09 with Adam Russell
gregor - 09/Dec/09
calumalien - AltLd - Dec/09 with Nath
Alco-nomic - AltLd - Dec/09 with marek, Andy Wardle
Led pitches 1-3, particularly liked the 3rd. Lots of snow, no ice. Bailed up Broken Gully as weather was crapping out.
niallk - Lead dnf - 29/Nov/09 with Drew Connelly
Excellent route with plenty of interest, and gets better as it gets higher - a tricky move past the fingers and a lovely direct move to finish. Made extra exciting by the wild, windy weather!
Chad123 - Lead O/S - 29/Nov/09 with Emily
Lawrie Brand - 2nd O/S - 28/Nov/09 with Al Goodridge
lawrenceK - Lead - 11/Nov/09
Direct Finnish (tec 5). Really enjoyable second route except for the thawing ice/snow around me!
benbers - 2nd - 30/Mar/09 with Iain Munro
Hidden - Lead - 30/Mar/09
Skipped the fingers (more's the pity), since Steve was dying!
andybuckley - Lead O/S - 07/Mar/09 with Steve Fitzgerald
Mike - 2nd - 06/Mar/09 with 'Rusty' Bale
jam_rich - AltLd - 01/Mar/09
barophobe - 2nd - Mar/09
Bokonon - AltLd O/S - 15/Feb/09 with Nev
Hidden - AltLd - 14/Feb/09
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Jan/09
adamscottthomas - AltLd - 28/Jan/09 with Gwilym Starks
Led pitches 2 and 4, finishing direct.
Andy Moles - AltLd O/S - 14/Jan/09 with Calum
led pitches 1 and 3
CalumC - AltLd O/S - 14/Jan/09 with Andy Moles
chrislycett87 - Jan/09
Hidden - Lead O/S - Jan/09
Hidden - Solo - Jan/09
k2scott - 2009
Alex Hofmann - 2009
rossn - 2009
jonnie3430 - AltLd O/S - 17/Dec/08 with Nikki and Flash
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Dec/08
nikkimac - 2nd - 17/Dec/08 with Jonnie and Flash
Spade - AltLd - 11/Dec/08 with Tom Pearson
SWalls - AltLd - 10/Dec/08 with Andy Ruck
Hidden - Lead - 10/Dec/08
mshorter - Lead - 08/Dec/08 with ross!
BallsOfSteel - Lead rpt - 06/Dec/08 with steve peatfield
most ridiculous muck up ever, my helmet blew away on the first pitch
Mark Walter - AltLd dnf - Dec/08 with Duncan Meacher
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Dec/08
Hidden - Dec/08
good interesting climbing throughout
mulletcocktail2000 - Lead O/S - 29/Nov/08 with adam
Hidden - AltLd - 22/Nov/08
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Nov/08
Alexander123 - AltLd - 03/Nov/08 with scotty webster
Hidden - 02/Nov/08
joe larner - AltLd O/S - 01/Nov/08 with John P
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Nov/08
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Nov/08
A good early start to the winter season! Snow down to the A9 (if I remember rightly). Joe led crux headwall, I led the fingers.
JdotP - AltLd O/S - 01/Nov/08 with Joe Larner
Captain Solo - AltLd - 27/Mar/08 with Gary
bullwinkle - AltLd O/S - 18/Mar/08 with Sam
With direct finish.
alaan - AltLd O/S - 16/Mar/08 with Jim
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Mar/08
adw07 - AltLd O/S - 01/Mar/08
Hidden - AltLd - 12/Jan/08
alex and ian munro
smcw - Jan/08
Sean Kelly - 2008
Alco-nomic - AltLd - 2008
CurlyStevo - AltLd - 2008
wee hippy - 2nd - 2008
Early season mixed conditions. Torquing a plenty and no ice. Blue sky day. More please.
jazzyjackson - AltLd O/S - 11/Dec/07 with Jimbob
Covered in powder and rime so took a while, blizzard didn't help any either. No much consolidated snow on the bottom, but turf was good on the second pitch.
andymoin - AltLd O/S - 09/Dec/07 with Neil Mackenzie
Awesome route! feelin a little ill, the knarly weather didnt help but still loved it! fingers felt a bit more tenuous than in summer!
Neil Mackenzie - AltLd O/S - 09/Dec/07 with Andy
Wild and wintery, excellent!!
Ross Barnes - AltLd - 25/Nov/07 with Malcolm
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Nov/07
Hidden - Solo - Apr/07
dan cowley - AltLd O/S - 08/Mar/07 with Euan
Hidden - AltLd - 07/Mar/07
kevburr - 2nd O/S - 01/Mar/07 with Sandy Allan
tom.e - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/07 with Chris Wall, Tom Powell
Greg Boswell - AltLd - 13/Feb/07 with peter bosewll (dad)
Mr Powly - AltLd O/S - Feb/07 with Tom Everett, Chris Wall
Rjukan - AltLd - Feb/07 with Tom E, and Tom P
easers - AltLd - Jan/07 with Doug Aitken
john irving - 2007
Richard White - 2007
timmy-ts - 2007
Hidden - 2007
Hidden - 2007
Cardi - 2nd - 21/Dec/06 with Mike D
dave657 - Lead O/S - 19/Dec/06 with Steve
Led pitches 2 and 4 (the fingers). Mind the ropedrag on the last pitch.
francois - AltLd - 17/Dec/06 with Gunnar
Brown - AltLd O/S - 06/Dec/06 with John
david morse - Lead - Nov/06 with james collingwood
mulletcocktail2000 - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/06 with joe
Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/06
Jim Haydock - 2nd - 10/Mar/06 with G. Ettle & Owen Samuels
On a course at Glenmore
easers - 2nd - Mar/06
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Feb/06
climbed 3 times
oor wullie - Feb/06
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Feb/06
Sandy P - AltLd O/S - Jan/06 with Chris Plant
al99 - AltLd O/S - Jan/06 with Joe Spoor
Hidden - AltLd - 2006
Went a bit off route in the white-out.
Neil Adams - 2006 with Andy N
Worst hot-aches ever!
steev - AltLd O/S - 19/Nov/05 with Gaz
Hidden - AltLd - 18/Nov/05
gaz.marshall - AltLd O/S - Nov/05 with Steev, JoB
Did this as a rock route as all the ice had melted a few days prior to our arrival - bah! Goes at VDiff, but still a pleasant excursion.
My Gravity - AltLd O/S - 24/Jan/05 with Roy D
Dangerous Dave - Lead O/S - 2005
Hidden - AltLd - 2005
akhughes - Lead O/S - Dec/04
Gman - AltLd O/S - Feb/04 with Carl, James
PenJD - AltLd O/S - 31/Jan/04 with Jon Ascroft
dunx55 - 2004
Hidden - Lead - 2004
First time unconsolidated snow, second time buried in powder, both really fantastic days.
Jamie Simpson - AltLd O/S - 2004 with Andy Munro
Dave Kerr - AltLd - 30/Nov/03 with Steve Wells, Erick Baillot
French Erick - AltLd O/S - 16/Nov/03 with Dave Kerr, Steve Wells
reg_measures - 2nd - 15/Feb/03 with pete and hugh
kato'sdad - 2nd - 21/Dec/02 with Giles Trussel
Jamie B - AltLd - Dec/02 with Simon Franks
Yourlead - AltLd - 18/Oct/02 with Graham Penny
niall_mac - AltLd - Mar/02 with am_bodach
andybrown114 - AltLd - 09/Feb/02 with Rich Cantrill
steveP - Lead O/S - Feb/02 with Frank Popham
Hidden - 2002
Hidden - 01/Feb/01
John Pickles - AltLd O/S - Feb/01 with John Short
NeilGriffiths - 30/Dec/00 with Adrian Pedley
nickcanute - Dec/00 with tim parkinson
brockers - 2000 with Dave Turner
Dave Kerr - Lead - 18/Dec/99 with Iain Sharpe
wadey1973 - AltLd - 10/Feb/99 with Stefan
dangates - 1998 with Kirk Watson
clive-greenwood - Lead - Feb/97 with HUMC
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Jan/97
With Si Taylor
innes - AltLd O/S - 1997
frost - AltLd - Feb/95 with S Raw, J Turner
Hidden - AltLd - Dec/91
Hidden - Feb/87
Hidden - Lead - 14/Nov/85
JohnHutch - Lead - 27/Jun/79 with HRB