Still buzzing :) what an epic 3d climbing experience which is wild and bold. Don't agree with HVS in any way or form but well worth the adventure. Possibly not the best after a chunderring hangover but out of the sun at least ;)
For all of you wish list guys, in the style of the monty Python french guardsman, I sticka my fingers up at vous. Go and embrace the subterranean :)nickstephens - AltLd O/S - 06/Sep/14 with Gareth Greeves
Pitch one and three
gg4419 - AltLd O/S - 06/Sep/14 with Nick Stephens
Awesome fun, though Helen thought type 2 fun. Pitch 2 wet but made no difference.
philhilo - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/14 with Helen E
tim newton - AltLd O/S - 17/Aug/14 with rachel slater
Had a mare trying to lead the second pitch by going really low (high just seemed wrong?!) but it felt desperate so backed off it (Tim then went high) then I lead the last pitch. Caving!
Rachel Slater - AltLd O/S - 17/Aug/14 with Tim Newton
What a great adventure
brices - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/14 with Mike
dannyboy83 - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/14 with Ben Ochner
What a journey! Sopping wet cave climbing of the highest order.. Probably the most adventurous route to date. led pitches 1 and 3
john lynch - AltLd O/S - 18/May/14 with Lewis Andrew
Brilliant adventure! Got quite cold by the end.
jonleighton - AltLd O/S - 16/May/14
Worth doing if you want an adventure, but don't do it for the climbing!
Adam Booth - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/14 with Ed Booth
Ed Booth - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/14 with Adam Booth
Wow end of first pitch = mental and all of second pitch = mental!!!
all in all, Mental!
Maken - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/14
3rd time I've done it, led first and last this time to let Phil have the meaty cave pitch. This time it was definitely towards the HVS side. (Very dry)
Twisty - AltLd rpt - 19/Apr/14 with Phil Baxter
tonevert - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/14 with Kevin Faux
Lead the second pitch through the cave. Great adventure! I'll have to tick more esoteric crazy fun stuff like this!
anguskille - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/14 with Tom Fenwick
Didn't enjoy this route - poor climbing, but good adventure. I am a climber, not a caver it seems.
P2 & 3 can be run together. You can also head up where the cave widdens, this'll be the HVS version...
Kevster - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/14 with Tony Johnson
fennerz - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/14 with Angus Kille
arose - AltLd - 16/Mar/14 with Giles Cranston
Frank the Husky - 2014
Hidden - AltLd - 13/Oct/13
Out of this world, climbing in one of the most exposed settings ever
steve.warrington - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/13 with Nik Goile
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/13
Just unreal. Spectacular route. We spent a long time talking ourselves into this.
Led 1&3. Ed towed the end of our ab rope across P1 and we left it coiled on the ledge just in case. That made us feel a bit happier.
The only real issue was where CC guide says "bridge up into the darkness". Don't. It's clearly a solid roof. Instead you go on into the cave a bit and turn hard right, stepping across. Took us ages to work that out. Other than that we found it all fairly steady, but it was dry. This would be a really really bad place for anything to go wrong.
Longsufferingropeholder - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/13
Led P1 & P2.
Jim Slater - AltLd O/S - 28/Aug/13 with James
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/13
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/13
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Aug/13
Jacob k-d - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/13
The Grist - AltLd - 21/Jul/13 with Sam Simpson
Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 21/Jul/13 with Mark Grist
Andrew1 - AltLd - 14/Jul/13 with Hulda
Hidden - AltLd - 14/Jul/13
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Jul/13
Slightly scary, but a great experience
Alice Thompson - AltLd - 01/Jul/13 with Andrew Porter, Michael Porter
david wands - AltLd O/S - 08/Jun/13
Also With rob dyer.
Lead the 1st and last pitches.
jonnyboy - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13 with Ben Wolstenholme
Rob84 - 2nd O/S - 25/May/13 with Mason, Ben Wolstenholme
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/May/13
Led all the pitches. Remembered the start being hardest before, followed by middle with the last being the easiest. This time the whole thing reveresed. It just got harder and harder - mainly due to the wet holds. There's normally a train of people to follow too, so with us being the first party it was a great adventure but also more interesting route finding. Take long extenders!
Twisty - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with Greg Slee
started at 4, finished at 11pm... bit of an epic! Bron couldn't find the way on second, and we couldn't hear/see each other. Eventually Jacob and Sam turned up as another team and were able to show her the way. Then we ended up with 4 of us on the hanging belay, below the last pitch, in the dark, with 2.5 head torches to go round... Fun times!
jacobjacob - Lead O/S - 04/May/13
Stanners - AltLd dnf - 20/Aug/12
We journeyed up into the bowls of the earth like a trio of parasites and it somewhat predictably shit us out again several hours later.
Determined to return and finish this after psychologically recovering from the amount of stress endured, it is definitely a route which you can get yourself killed on.
Quarryboy - AltLd dnf - 20/Aug/12 with James Rich, Rob Stanfield, Comrade Shunt
Although I was technically seconding it still felt a bit like leading. The less said about this route the better!
JamesRich - 2nd dnf - 20/Aug/12 with Rob stanfield, Jack Bradbrook
Led the first and last pitches, soaking wet! Also forgot the headtorches so I was panicking a bit before the second pitch but we found the way to daylight eventually. Well done to Dave for an awesome first ascent!
Joughton - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/12
character building, to say the least. lead P1 and 3
JamieSparkes - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12
CragDog - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12
fisrt and second pitches
barni - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/12 with fra
benchwarmer - 2nd O/S - 14/Apr/12
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Aug/11
P2, Preposterous route! awesome to have done it, not sure ill do it again though.
Ollie B - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/11 with L.Postlewaith
Hidden - AltLd - 15/Aug/11
led pitches 1 & 2. Top route.
Graeme Hammond - AltLd O/S - 15/Aug/11 with james pcc
One of the most traumatic climbing days ever. I had the old rockfax guide with it down at HVS. These days I consider myself a reasonably competent low e grade climber, however this felt more like caving than climbing. The second pitch was streaming in water so reversed back from the crux to the belay and reversed the first pitch. I would even suggest E3 just to discourage any aspiring E2 leaders...if it goes wrong down there you are in serious trouble...no one can throw a rope down and you can't abb off, there is no leader or second on this climb, in fact probably worse and more dangerous to second. I have no desire to go back in there again, ever.
HappyTrundler - AltLd dnf - 13/Aug/11 with Irish Pete
Great fun, easy climbing but soaking wet - the rain probably didn't help! Probably HVS if it was dry.
thomasadixon - AltLd O/S - 12/Aug/11 with Mike
Mark Kemball - AltLd O/S - 09/Aug/11 with Matt Gordon
Hidden - 2nd dnf - 29/May/11
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Apr/11
GrantB - 2nd O/S - 27/Apr/11 with James, Robertson, ally smith
Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/11
Put simply; one of the best routes I've ever done. Done on a dry day when the weather had been good for a few weeks so conditions were pretty good, with only a small amount of slime on holds in the cave. Looking at other comments, it seems that conditions play a huge part in people's enjoyment of this route! The second pitch is a real adventure with fun (and slightly unnerving) route finding and great three-dimensional climbing.
Byronius Maximus - AltLd O/S - 27/Apr/11 with Alex Twist
Led P1 and P3 in reasonably good conditions. A simply brilliant outing. Some good banter and wacky maneuvers had us in fits of laughter the whole way though I regretted forgetting my helmet. One of the most enjoyable routes I've ever done, it's hard to recommend this kind of top notch weirdness highly enough!
jkarran - AltLd - 27/Apr/11 with Smith, Grant, Aly
Partner went all the way to the belay point and then came back. Decided it wasn't a good time to have a potential epic as it looked like a storm. Was down as HVS in our guide.
squicky - 2nd dnf - 26/Apr/11 with spidey
Had 1 fall coming into the cave, was too low and to a good swing into the cave! great fun and climbing isnt difficult if you stick to the route!! well worth a go.
ben1987 - 2nd dog - 24/Apr/11 with Adam Coles
Hidden - 2011
Paul Boggis - AltLd - 2011
mwatson - 2011
Adventure! Led 1st pitch.
Adam Coles - AltLd O/S - 2011 with ben park
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Sep/10
lead 1st pitch, Virgil the 2nd and Joe the 3rd. Slimy but fun
hrgcb - AltLd O/S - 25/Sep/10 with Virgil Scott, Joe Prinold
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/10
metal arms - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/10
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Aug/10
Lead P2. Good to see it gets the crux on here. Slippery, dark and dangerous. Not to be repeated, and bollocks to HVS - two of us are steady at E2 and one on-sighting 7a/b, we all thought we were jam.
Dave Foster - AltLd O/S - 17/Aug/10 with Andy and Si
Hidden - Lead - 13/Jun/10
Stuck to the dodgy Rockfax description and came off about 8m away from the belay on P2. Took the most incredible fall swinging back through the cave. Prussiked out with a hex. Epics
Gareth Clendinning (UBMC) - AltLd dnf - 12/Jun/10 with James Kay
Hidden - 10/May/10
Hidden - 2010
Serious fun, the rockfax description seemed wrong, who knows! Such a feeling when you get out into daylight
irish paul - AltLd O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Sarah Joyce
Sarah Black - AltLd O/S - 18/Oct/09
Didn't finish. New rockfax guide is very misleading for pitch 2! Don't stick to left wall when it broadens out, go upwards and chimney your way on the right, then back left? Should've read the CC guide for a better description
Kyuzo - 11/Oct/09 with Joe Prinold
what a nasty route. we had a bit of an epic once in the cave, my partner went down and sort of across in the second pitch - which was apparently very dodgey (especially fot the second, me!) so he came back,not without difficulty and resting on a dodgy nut! why go out of the sun and away from the lovely friction to go down a greasy dangerous hole?!
ian d f - AltLd dnf - 12/Sep/09 with Pete H
Best route ever.
Richard Hession - AltLd O/S - 27/Sep/08 with Stu
Hidden - AltLd - 21/Sep/08
In my top ten clims of all time
Cowflinger - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/08 with Dai Morris
Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/08
greenclimb - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/08 with Sarah
Hidden - Lead dnf - 31/May/08
Hidden - AltLd - 29/Aug/07
led 1st and 3rd pitch, scary stuff!
TGreen - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/07 with James Cross
an adventure to be had simply for the feeling when you finally escape, top pitch is the crux with a slippery, thrutchy mantle before the sprint for terra firma.
Alex Mason - Lead O/S - 04/May/07 with Steve Ramsden
Ram MkiV - AltLd O/S - 04/May/07 with Al
feilx - AltLd O/S - 24/Mar/07 with Mike Soldner
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2007
Hidden - AltLd - 2007
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Aug/06
NeilGriffiths - 25/Aug/06 with Sean
lukea - AltLd O/S - Jul/06 with Al
Mike H - AltLd - 01/Jun/06 with Jamie Smith
lukea - Lead O/S - 16/May/06 with Al
Boy - 2006
nathanmanc - Lead O/S - 2006 with Chris Todd
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - AltLd O/S - 2006 with Bryony Weathers
chris wyatt - AltLd O/S - 2005 with barrie doyle
belay bunny turned bad - 2005
Graham, Carl, Silly route, very serious, could easily end up dead!
ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/04
Just Another Dave - Lead O/S - 2003 with cathy?
PaulTanton - AltLd O/S - 27/Aug/02 with Dave Taylor
Hidden - AltLd - 27/Jul/02
Hidden - Lead - 2002
Billg - AltLd - 18/Sep/00 with Megan Beaumont
dickypips - 2000 with Steve James
haydng - 2000
Tim M - 2000
bullybones - 2000
Done years back. Memory fades but it didn't seem to be E2.
andy_pemberton - Lead - 2000
Hidden - Jun/99
Truly awesome! Don't get any beta (apart from both should bring headtorches!). Just do it!
nickdonohue - AltLd - 31/Aug/98 with Derek Ashworth
Hidden - AltLd - 02/May/98
ChrisJD - Lead - 1998 with rc
Dave Rumney - 1998
Hidden - 1998
Came out after the range had closed. Was hard to explain to the guard at the gate that we were underground and had lost track of time...
phardman - AltLd O/S - 1998 with Jon Bibby
Nicknamed the "preposterous snails" alluding to the time taken to complete the route. A very hot day - suitable subterranen route.
Rich Kirby - AltLd O/S - Jun/97 with Stewart Lancaster
Marti999 - AltLd O/S - Jun/97
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 03/May/97
Hidden - AltLd O/S - May/97
Hidden - AltLd - 1997
Hidden - AltLd - 1997
RichardMc - AltLd - Aug/96 with Steve Gould
michael burrows - AltLd O/S - 07/Jul/96 with mark ryan
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 1996
HVS when I did it!
Tim Sparrow - AltLd - 1995