Grotto* VS 4c
[Grotto Direct Pitch 2, 3 kb]45m, 2 pitches. No description has been contributed for this climb.

Ticklists: Craig Bwlch y Moch Starred VS Challenge, UK Lonely Leads.

Photo: Grotto Direct Pitch 2 © woody0606

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This climb is in 97 logbooks, and on 7 wishlists.

Bold on Poor Gear, not sure why it gets the stars, not for the new to VS leader- hence the lead and back off, seconded cleanish
Lucylou19 - 2nd - 24/Nov/14 with Pete Frost

Led both pitches as the gear in the lower half of p1 is neither plentiful, nor confidence-inspiring, so Lucy very sensibly backed-off. Nice moves further up and well protected once past the first roof.
Pete_Frost - AltLd O/S - 23/Nov/14 with Lucy Sutton

Lead P1
pftom - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/14 with Rosie Hawker

nodwas - Lead - Apr/14

Katie S - 2nd - Apr/14

did the 2 actual pitches, Craig did the way in. Great climbing, some really good moves on the 2nd pitch I thought.
rbharries - AltLd O/S - 18/Mar/14 with craig lethal

Hidden - AltLd - 18/Mar/14

davebrox - 2014

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Oct/13

malteserEd - AltLd - 20/Sep/13

Ed led P1, I led P2
Adrianw - AltLd O/S - 20/Sep/13 with Ed Sciberras

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/13

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Jul/13

Abbed off yesterday after getting lost on second pitch and it conveniently pissed down. Got lost again today so finished up Christmas Curry in light showers, where TF does 2nd pitch go?
Louis Hume - Lead dnf - 30/May/13 with Oli

SteveM - Lead - 06/May/13 with Kat

Pitch 2 of christmas curry on approach for me only.
kitkat78 - AltLd - 06/May/13 with SteveM

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13

wi11 - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Gwen L

Gerallt Owain - AltLd O/S - 18/Sep/12 with Dan H, Dan Jones

I really liked this one.
Dan724 - AltLd O/S - 18/Sep/12 with Gerallt Owain, Dan Jones

Good value for the grade, nice climb
Danjones - AltLd O/S - 18/Sep/12 with Dan Hale, Gerallt

lead p1 and bailed onto christmas curry because of rain before p2.
Jones_88 - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/12

adam06 - 2nd - 02/Jun/12 with Wyn Jones

roberts1234567890 - AltLd - 07/Apr/12 with Simon Van Dam

SimonvanDam - AltLd - 07/Apr/12 with Matt Roberts

Lead the second pitch only. Climbed in light rain, conditions were slightly damp.
iwanap - AltLd O/S - 21/Jan/12 with Gerwyn

Hidden - AltLd - 21/Jan/12

Callum Anderson - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Tricky for the grade - much harder than some of the other Tremadog VSs. Very varied route - worth doing.
Rampikino - Lead - 10/Dec/11 with Cat

Hidden - Lead - 05/Nov/11

edpd1b - AltLd - 30/Sep/11 with Leo Scheltinga

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/11

Backed off 1st then 2nd pitch
kdalzell - 2nd - 12/May/11 with Cordelia Molloy

Quite hard moves on the bottom of first pitch, with only micro wires for protection.
kleinej - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Patrick

Hidden - 14/Mar/11

popov86 - AltLd - 20/Jan/11

Hidden - 2011

Rory Shaw - 2011

dan-8990 - AltLd - 16/Apr/10 with NM

DuckingFesperate - 2010

simon_williams6 - 2nd β - 29/Jul/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jul/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/09

cleaned as part of bmc crag clean up,the top pitch looks blank but is all there and wires protect the moves across the wall, a good sustained, we did the last 2 pitches together
michael burrows - Lead rpt - 18/Apr/09 with margaret

lead first 2 pitches (christmas curry)
Lallylandslider - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/09 with michael burrows

Seymore Butt - 2009

jpalmer - Apr/08

Sean Kelly - 2008

JPM71 - 2nd O/S - 2008

I lead 1, 3 and 4, missed the belay spot at the end of pitch 3 :-o Steep once off xmas curry.
taw - AltLd - 2008

Hidden - AltLd - 08/Oct/07

A hard sustained climb even for a second. Did not do the top pitch as little/ no protection.
sdawson1 - 2nd O/S - 02/Jul/07 with Ray

Good route. Mike belayed early on the first pitch to avoid rope drag which gave me most of the good climbing. Found the top rather spacey.
Siderunner - AltLd - 05/May/07 with Mike P

jepotherepo - Lead - Feb/07 with richard lackey

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Sep/06

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Aug/06

ritchierich - 2nd O/S - 27/Feb/06 with Phil Taggart

Hidden - 2006

PWEI_fan - 2006

NickBrat - 2006

Hidden - 2006

Hidden - Lead - Jul/05

michael burrows - AltLd - 14/Jun/05 with mike doyle

John Kettle - Lead - 2005

An Eric Jones sandbag! We asked the silver fox to recommend a good VS that wouldn't be busy. Judging by the thorn-filled crack on the crux pitch, don't think this had seen an ascent in years!
Owen W-G - AltLd O/S - 24/Jul/04 with Roger Lau

malc - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/04 with ??

akhughes - Lead - 2003

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2003

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Aug/00

zero six - Lead O/S - 2000

Paul Boardman - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/98 with Iain Boardman

Hidden - AltLd - 05/Apr/97

Hidden - Lead - 06/Mar/97

Hidden - AltLd - 27/Apr/96

Budge - AltLd O/S - 1993 with Richard Teed

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Feb/92

Nige led all
John Roe - 2nd - Sep/90 with Nige Hughes

RB/SGC/MB alt leads
Steve Crowe - AltLd O/S - 26/Sep/87 with Bob Bennett

ewar woowar - 1987

Carl Smethurst - AltLd - 04/Apr/86 with Ian Pickles, Los Kenny

Melok - AltLd - 1985

Falko - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/81 with A N Other

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1981

Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 1979 with Mike Wright

Pedro50 - Lead - 27/Mar/77 with Steve White

RichardMc - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/76 with Betty Seifert

Bolt Phobia - AltLd - 15/Jun/75 with John Young

pneame - May/75

petemeads - Lead - 1975

granitbahn - AltLd - 1975

Mike Owen - 1975 with John Roberts

mikej - AltLd - 03/Feb/73 with Geoff Williams

mikej - AltLd - 26/May/70 with Jerry Young

Tom V - 1970

Mid 60s - with Jim Williams I think. Done several times since, once recently after a crag clean up- 200?
David Smith - AltLd - 1966

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