Rockfax Description
The most direct line on this complex buttress, despite its name.
1) 5b, 16m. Climb a groove left of the start of Vector, step right then pull into a short steep crack with difficulty and follow this to belay as for Vector.
2) 5c, 35m. Traverse left, then pull up to a bulge. Climb through this, then up left to a notch. Difficult moves lead up left, then climb fairly directly to the finishing flake of Vector.
3) 4b, 15m. As for Vector. © Rockfax

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List, North Wales 100 Classic Climbs, Ultimate E2 ticklist, Alex's Wales ticklist, Bangor BUMS Uni-Life Ticklist.

Sardien 18/Oct 2nd rpt
anguskille 16/Oct 2nd β
with Rich Gentry
Pete_Frost 12/Oct AltLd dnf

Couldn't work out how to get out of the groove above the peg, so down climbed to the peg and lowered off. Tried all sorts of contortions, but nothing worked. There's a good edge out left, but I could only reach it with a low, right side pull in a very chalked slot (where I'd also placed a small cam), and if I let go of that, I'd have barn-doored! I'll be back....

with Phil Creed
Hidden 12/Oct AltLd dnf
shaunhumphreys 11/Oct AltLd O/S

P2. Ace route seemed to have quite a few hard sections which meant i took forever... #teamslow

with Micki
MSchobitz 11/Oct AltLd O/S

P1&3, amazing route! Good crux lead by Shaun!

Hidden 24/Sep 2nd
Hidden 12/Sep Lead O/S
Hidden 25/Aug 2nd
danm 23/Jul 2nd

Tidy led P1 and P2 together, I finished up the easy short final pitch. Pretty sustained, crux was moving left off the gopping wet undercut on the shared finish of Vector.

with Tidy John
BenRyle 25/Jun AltLd dog

Took a nice rude of the crux due to faff. Excellent route

with Rich Gentry
Hidden 30/May AltLd O/S
pete johnson 25/May Lead rpt
with BendyBennett
Hannes B 24/May AltLd O/S


with Tom
greglad 23/May AltLd O/S
Robb Bert 23/May AltLd
bigdrew 17/May Lead O/S

Led all pitches. Top two in one.

with Lisa
Hidden 16/May AltLd O/S
morganator 11/May AltLd O/S
with International Meet Guest
elliptic 18/Apr AltLd
with Tom R.
Brian Rodgers 16/Apr AltLd O/S

Led 2nd pitch.

with Esther Bott
Marti999 14/Apr Lead O/S
with Debbie
Hidden 05/Apr Lead O/S
Dan724 26/Mar AltLd O/S

Led P2 and P3 in one. Great route, loads of exposure!

with Rich Gentry
Hidden 14/Mar 2nd rpt
pete johnson ?/Mar -
Hidden 14/Feb 2nd
tim newton 08/Feb AltLd O/S
Rachel Slater 08/Feb AltLd O/S


Hidden ??/2015 -
Hidden ??/2015 -
jcw ??/2015 -
Dave Rumney ??/2015 -
Dave Rumney ??/2015 -
Dave Rumney ??/2015 -
Ian craigie ??/2015 Lead
with Rachael Crewsmith
Darron ??/2015 -
Hidden 28/Dec/14 2nd rpt
papashango 24/Nov/14 Lead O/S

in one pitch, awesome line

with PJ
Ed morris 15/Nov/14 Lead O/S
with Tom Grant
Lessworkmoreclimbing 17/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

I led pitch 1, didn't do official third pitch. Pitch 1 packs a lot into a short length, solid E1 at least in own right. Seconded pitch 2 clean - just! Great route.

with Kev
DubyaJamesDubya 09/Aug/14 Lead O/S

Amazing crux move.

with Andrew Bevan
Sardien 03/Aug/14 2nd rpt

Andy led as a single pitch. It rained when he did the layback at the top, luckily not so damp when I got there somehow! Still think getting in & out of the groove in the middle is really hard and weird

with Andy Scott
Misha 20/Jul/14 AltLd O/S

A good route. Led P2 and P3 in one and didn't exactly cruise it... Perplexing crux with weird moves to get stood up on the big footholds / small ledge left of the steep groove. Didn't feel like I would come off but was genuinely puzzled what to do! Trying unlikely looking moves did the trick! Then that hard bit on the last pitch of Vector - I've led it twice before and still found it pretty hard! Ed led the first pitch, starting further left than where the route actually goes due to my bad advice - eventually he traversed back right into the right line (I had thought that was Vector's first pitch as that's how I'd started Vector in the past but it actually goes up further right).

with Ed
eduardo 20/Jul/14 AltLd dog

Led P1, fell on 1st wall. 1 rest on P2

with Misha
mikeyjbs 05/Jul/14 Lead O/S
with mat downes
Sarah Black 08/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Awesome route, got the middle (and best) pitch. Gets you into some pretty cool positions on the vector buttress.

irish paul 08/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Jun/14 Lead rpt
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe 28/May/14 AltLd
with Ben Winston
Garan 25/May/14 AltLd O/S

With Killer Hangover!

with Ben Heason
twem 04/May/14 AltLd dnf

Lead P1. Bailed on P2

alastairbegley 04/May/14 AltLd dnf

Attempted leading p2, bailed during the first overhang

Abi Chard 04/May/14 AltLd O/S
with Ian
ian caton ?/May/14 Lead O/S
with Abi
Sardien 09/Mar/14 2nd O/S

amazing climbing, and hard

with Andy Scott
Hidden ??/2014 -
oliverpcain ??/2014 2nd
Si ??/2014 -
Hidden ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
prcleary ??/2014 -
beneole ?/Oct/13 Lead O/S
stuart34 30/Sep/13 2nd
Hidden 30/Sep/13 2nd O/S
Hidden 03/Sep/13 AltLd O/S
Anna Yorke 03/Sep/13 AltLd
Andy Peak 1 23/Aug/13 AltLd

steep and sustained, class

Hidden 23/Aug/13 AltLd rpt
Lenny 17/Jun/13 Lead O/S

In one, almost ran out of gear by the top.

with Phil .N
andyinglis 20/May/13 AltLd O/S

Good route, lots of tricky climbing!

Russell Birkett 20/May/13 AltLd O/S

Excellent route. Did this in 2 pitches

dave o 20/May/13 AltLd


Hidden 19/May/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 18/May/13 2nd rpt
pete johnson 18/May/13 Lead
BigTone 04/May/13 2nd dnf

Got lost on the second pitch and ended up near Vector P2 belay. Lowered off after much faffing.

Si dH 01/Apr/13 AltLd O/S

Led p1 and p2. p2 absolutely brilliant.

with Chris Foster
air ??/2013 AltLd O/S
Nick Biven ??/2013 -
Hidden 27/Oct/12 AltLd O/S
JRae 14/Oct/12 Lead

Better and more sustained than vector imo, ace route finding on really cool rock! Mostly via head torch (Good effort seconding by Anna). Crux of vector was wet too and used every krab on my harness by the belay. What a quality route to finish a fun weekend.

with Anna D
Hidden 28/Sep/12 AltLd
shed_hed 22/Sep/12 2nd dog

Had to rest on rope to retrieve a stuck cam on the roof. Good route with some tricky moves!

dswansonlow 22/Sep/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 08/Sep/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 08/Sep/12 AltLd
pie_eater_pete 08/Sep/12 AltLd O/S
with bwestwood
bwestwood 08/Sep/12 AltLd
with pete sargeant
soph 02/Sep/12 AltLd
with Sam Ring
Hidden 02/Sep/12 AltLd O/S
ashsleight 21/Aug/12 2nd O/S

Abbed off at top of 1st pitch as Vic blew his arms out on the 2nd pitch.

with vic reeves
Hidden ?/Aug/12 Lead
Toby Dunn 28/Jul/12 Lead
Graham Iles 27/Jul/12 AltLd rpt
with Neil Stabbs
migs493 23/Jun/12 Lead rpt

Probably did this routes several years ago but nothing seemed familiar. Totally stupendous route.

with Tom Odling
victim of mathematics 20/May/12 2nd O/S
James Oswald 20/May/12 2nd

Ace. lots of hard, technical climbing.

with Colin Angus, Jon Stewart
Hidden 13/May/12 Lead O/S
Ollie B 12/May/12 Lead O/S

Straight on it after work. bit pumpy but fucking awesome route!! much better than vector!

with N.Sommers
Hidden 06/May/12 2nd O/S
mynyddresident 24/Apr/12 Lead rpt

In one monster pitch . Dangerous 1st peg semi removed by my partner, might be a placement if the rest is dug out.

with liam
dan ely 14/Apr/12 2nd rpt
with crispin
Stone Muppet 14/Apr/12 Lead O/S
with dan ely, ah
markalmack 17/Mar/12 Lead O/S

Linked into 1 long pitch - Nice!

with andy lole
Hidden 17/Mar/12 2nd
Liam FLeming 01/Mar/12 -
with rich gentry
Hidden 14/Jan/12 Lead rpt
adie84 ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 Lead O/S
The Green Giant 13/Nov/11 Lead O/S
with Dan with the van
jacobjlloyd 06/Nov/11 2nd O/S

Flipped for it and Ian got the lead. In one, brilliant. Just as good as Vector!

chrisallan 06/Nov/11 2nd dog
i_a_coops 06/Nov/11 Lead O/S

Really glad I got to lead this one, despite nearly running out of gear at the top....

with Chris, Jake, Jenni
Hidden 06/Nov/11 2nd β
wi11 15/Oct/11 AltLd O/S

P2 got soooo lost!

with Meg
Katex 13/Sep/11 2nd

Mike led. Managed to second this clean except that I had to sit on the rope to remove gear just before the end :-)

with Mike
Katex 09/Sep/11 2nd

had to escape from crux onto One Step

with Mike
Hidden 09/Aug/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 05/Aug/11 2nd O/S
dan ely 05/Aug/11 Lead O/S
with terry
Hidden ?/Aug/11 Lead
Hidden ?/Aug/11 2nd
Lawrie Brand 31/Jul/11 AltLd O/S

Would be an epic single pitch..

with Tom Sampson, Matt Etheridge
thomasadixon 10/Jul/11 Lead O/S

Felt absolutely nails for E2, perhaps cause I strung the first two pitches together. Wicked though, better than Vector!

with Alan
Reaver2k 10/Jul/11 2nd
robertmichaeladams 02/Jun/11 AltLd
with Tom
tomdude 02/Jun/11 AltLd O/S
with rob
laurelfan 11/May/11 Lead O/S
with Rob
Hidden 09/May/11 Lead rpt
Jonas Paulsson 09/May/11 AltLd

Had to make belay at the merge with Vector due to traffic on V. Seconded last section which was wet, pulled on a piece or two.

with Duncan Tunstall
Diggler 09/Apr/11 Lead O/S

Amazing climb. Pulled through the crux with John Dunne shouting encouragement from below. Legend.

jeffb 09/Apr/11 2nd dog
Hidden 09/Apr/11 Lead O/S
Calder 09/Apr/11 2nd
with jeffb, Mark
Hidden 03/Apr/11 2nd dog
Liam FLeming 26/Mar/11 Lead
with barni
barni 26/Mar/11 2nd rpt
Hidden 02/Mar/11 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Mar/11 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2011 -
Rory Shaw ??/2011 -
Tim Sparrow ??/2011 -
alkira ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
centurion05 ??/2011 -
alasdair19 ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
bwestwood 15/Dec/10 -

attempted the weaver ended up doing weaver nimbus vector combo.

with pete sargeant
mynyddresident 20/Nov/10 AltLd
with wolf
wolf.leeb 20/Nov/10 AltLd rpt

P2, ironed out any previous uncertainty

with nic
phil64 21/Oct/10 Lead rpt
Luke Brooks 28/Sep/10 Lead O/S

In one monster pitch!

with Liam
willoates 24/Sep/10 AltLd O/S

1st me, 2nd andy. go back and lead 2nd

Dan Geh 07/Sep/10 2nd
dominiclincoln 04/Sep/10 -
with attirechimps, griffon
Hidden 31/Aug/10 Lead dnf
Owain Llewelyn 21/Aug/10 Lead
with Dad
Hidden 17/Aug/10 AltLd dog
DavidR 17/Aug/10 AltLd O/S

Kev - pitch 1; me - pitch 2.

ritchierich 11/Aug/10 AltLd dog

Did first pitch but had to have quick rest while trying to work out 2nd crux move peg number 2 that goes left. Hard and pumpy route with the crux of Vector pitch 3 to do after.

with Bob Dickson
wolf.leeb 02/Aug/10 AltLd dnf
with nic
dan gibson 22/Jul/10 Solo rpt
david morse 03/Jul/10 AltLd O/S

found route finding tough, theres alot of routes and chalk up there!

with si lambert
Hidden ?/Jul/10 -
Ed Babs 14/Jun/10 AltLd O/S

P1 + 3

with Harry
Duncan Campbell 03/Jun/10 AltLd O/S

SO HOT!!! led the crux pitch....susained throughout with a few really tricky moves and one good rest....managed to sit down and take my shoes off on the slab below the vector groove as my feet were the cool im sure it would be much easier ad comfortable....awesome route though!

Hidden 03/Jun/10 2nd O/S
Hidden ?/Jun/10 -
Hidden 16/May/10 2nd
3 Names 03/May/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 02/May/10 Lead rpt
Glyn 17/Apr/10 AltLd O/S

Awesome route.

Hidden 17/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
Hidden 11/Apr/10 2nd O/S
eddy-on-the-rocks 04/Apr/10 Lead O/S

I got it into my head that you needed to do a move no hands and did it in a silly way.

with Gaz
simonp ?/Apr/10 Lead O/S
with Annelies Sarrazyn
halfmanhalfbiscuit ?/Apr/10 Lead O/S
zero six ?/Apr/10 Lead O/S
farmus21 10/Feb/10 Lead

Great route, good line... ill belayer

mr mills ??/2010 -
with paul simkiss
simeclimb68 ??/2010 -
nickcanute ??/2010 Lead
titchbach 05/Oct/09 2nd
al99 26/Sep/09 Lead O/S
with Luke Thomas
Toby Dunn 29/Aug/09 Lead O/S
with Jon Fulwood
Richard Horn 25/Aug/09 AltLd O/S
Hidden 01/Aug/09 2nd rpt
Hidden 01/Aug/09 Lead
ksjs 24/Jul/09 Lead O/S

led main pitch. brilliant, Tremadog perfection - very well protected except maybe moves into the Vector finish (you wont go far but theres scope to hit the ledge below, small wires can be fiddled in to keep you off this). the crux took a bit of working out but is all there once you commit

with jo
Phill Mitch 18/Jul/09 AltLd O/S

lead first and last pitches

with mick
AdrianP ?/Jul/09 AltLd O/S
with Olli
DDDD 22/Jun/09 AltLd O/S
with Mick Haffner
thompson1000 ?/Apr/09 2nd
thompson1000 ?/Apr/09 2nd
Brown 15/Mar/09 AltLd O/S
with Nicos
Nicos 15/Mar/09 Lead O/S
with dave
barni ??/2009 -

in one

with Sam
Boy ??/2009 -
with Toby Dunn
Seymore Butt ??/2009 -
dan gibson 16/Jul/08 Lead O/S
with sam read
Sgt. Vest 20/Jun/08 AltLd O/S
Hidden 20/Jun/08 Lead dog
tumbling wizard ?/Jun/08 -
Hidden ??/2008 -
Matt Vigg ??/2008 -
hans solo ??/2008 Lead O/S

if youve done vector then your hard move is already covered except on little rock over near the start on the second pitch

joe larner 21/Oct/07 AltLd O/S

led P1+2

with Bruce
Hidden 10/Sep/07 2nd O/S
jfreeman ?/Aug/07 Lead O/S
simonr ?/Aug/07 2nd
DavidEvans 28/Jul/07 AltLd

Led pitch 2 (5c)

Mick B 06/Apr/07 Lead O/S
with Guy Tooth
reg_measures ??/2007 Lead O/S
with neil thomas
Hidden ?/Sep/06 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/May/06 Lead rpt
Rob Greenwood - UKClimbing 29/Jan/06 AltLd O/S
Hidden 08/Jan/06 2nd
Hidden ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
Hidden ??/2006 -
Ian McNeill ??/2006 -
spidey 07/May/05 Lead O/S
Rob Kennard ??/2005 AltLd
with Rich White
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe ??/2005 -
VPJB ??/2005 -
Hidden 21/Aug/04 Lead O/S
Hidden 02/Aug/04 AltLd O/S
frost ?/Jul/04 2nd
with N Griffiths
nicholas Barrowclough ?/Apr/04 Lead
Hidden 06/Mar/04 AltLd O/S
haydng ??/2004 AltLd O/S
with Rob
James B 18/Oct/03 AltLd
with Phil
Hidden ??/2003 -
chrishedgehog ??/2003 Lead O/S
with Deg Bolger
akhughes ??/2003 Lead
Hidden ??/2003 AltLd O/S
Hidden 03/Oct/02 2nd
Shaw Brown ??/2002 2nd O/S
with David Menadue
Derek Ryden 07/May/00 AltLd O/S
with Duncan Spencer
Hidden ??/1999 AltLd O/S
Roget 24/May/98 Lead O/S
with jon
Ched ??/1997 Lead O/S
with Glanfor
Hidden 09/Jun/96 Lead O/S
mike lawrence? 01/Jun/95 -
with James Ellson
michael burrows 19/Mar/95 2nd
with phil jones
Budge ?/Mar/95 2nd O/S
Hidden ??/1995 -
Hidden ??/1995 AltLd
Big Rik ??/1995 -
NeilGriffiths ??/1995 AltLd
NickJH ?/Aug/94 -
michael burrows 19/Jun/94 AltLd rpt
with john roberts
Dave Musgrove Jnr 05/Apr/94 AltLd

In the rain

with Chris Ranner
IanGilbertJones 30/Oct/93 AltLd O/S
Cowflinger 17/Oct/93 Lead O/S
with John Harwood
mark-abz 24/Aug/93 Lead
with Simon K
Alan James - UKC and UKH 10/Jul/93 Solo
Hidden 12/Apr/93 2nd O/S
Hidden ??/1993 Lead
AlanLittle ?/Aug/92 2nd
WB ??/1992 -
Hidden ??/1992 AltLd
Hidden 30/Jul/91 AltLd
whispering nic 06/Jul/91 -
with Graham Iles
Hidden 19/May/91 Lead
Rich Kirby ?/Jul/90 AltLd O/S
MikeYouCanClimb 19/May/90 Lead O/S
with Graham Evans
Bob ??/1990 -
Hidden 12/Aug/89 AltLd
Hidden 30/Apr/89 2nd
BigHairyIan 16/Apr/89 2nd O/S
with Steve Waite (Little Steve)
Neil R 01/Jul/88 AltLd

Fell off 2nd pitch

with Ian
Hidden 27/May/88 AltLd
Dave Musgrove 02/May/88 AltLd
with Pete Finklaire, David
Dave Musgrove Jnr 01/May/88 AltLd
Hidden 26/Apr/88 Lead O/S
Andy Edgar ??/1988 Lead
johno072 ??/1988 Lead
steve taylor ?/Jul/87 2nd
with stumpy
Steve Crowe 25/May/87 AltLd O/S
sadams 11/Apr/87 2nd
with Guy Townsend
ewar woowar ??/1987 -
John Marsland 28/Sep/86 Lead
with Dave Cousins
Dave Musgrove 16/Aug/86 AltLd
with Kim Greenald
neilh 20/Jul/86 2nd
wynaptomos ?/Jun/86 2nd O/S
Hidden 03/May/86 Lead
Mike Owen 20/Apr/86 Lead O/S
with Elaine Owen
Hidden 01/Jun/85 Lead O/S
Hidden 04/May/85 Lead rpt
Hidden 06/Apr/85 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/1985 -
Ghastly Rubberfeet ??/1985 Lead

"Best route on Weaver buttress." Quote-Phil Burke.

with Duncan Bond
andy gittins ??/1985 -
Hidden ??/1985 AltLd
sadams 06/May/84 AltLd
with Chris Thwaites
Hidden 29/Apr/84 AltLd
keefe 17/Apr/84 -
Robmwatt ??/1984 -
Rob Davies ??/1984 2nd dnf

Date? Lowered off

Gordon Stainforth 31/Jul/83 AltLd

A magnificent companion route to Vector. Robert led the superb main pitch.

with Robert Barton
stp ??/1983 Lead
Hidden 26/Jun/82 Lead
andy gittins ??/1982 -
uphillnow ??/1982 Lead O/S

Climbed first about 1982 with I think J Robinson (need to check). Done a number of times most recently seconding Keith Morgan

with John Robinson
steve L 25/Jul/80 Lead O/S
with Chris Pound
Ian Jones ??/1980 Lead O/S
with Jamie Holding
Hidden ??/1980 -
Hidden ??/1980 AltLd
Steve Bell ??/1978 -
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