Deep Space*** E2 5b
[Charlie in a Deep Space, 3 kb]40m, 2 pitches. This magnificent route which gives entertaining climbing in a weird situation. Unfortunately the first pitch can be a bit slimy since it is buried in the through cave but the second pitch is superb. If there are birds nesting in the cave then consider doing it in one long pitch. Start beneath the left-hand of two grooves at the right-hand side of the back wall of the cave. Photo this page. 1) 5b, 20m. Climb to a ledge then move left onto the wall. Move up to gain a rightwards rising line which is followed to a good flake. Continue up and right (thread runner) until level with a hole on the right. Step down and gain the hole from below. 2) 5a, 20m. Pull out left then swing around the roof to gain a chimneying position above. Bridge up the outside edge above (or climb the right wall) and continue up the corner to the top. The Fresh Air Finish, E2 5b. Climb straight over the roof above the cave and move right to the hanging arete. Pull onto this on its left and continue up the wall above in an amazing position. © ROCKFAX
FA. P.Littlejohn 5.75 May/1975

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Nails all the way. Struggled through the overhang even with a tight rope. Good lead by Martin.
Andrew Sloan - 2nd O/S - 29/Sep/14 with Martin Haworth

One of the best routes I've ever done. Climbed in a one long pitch.
Martin Haworth - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/14 with Andy

Amazing. It should be illegal how good this route is. Did in a big oner and still got puked on by the fulmar in the belay hole. Take lots of slings!
Duncan Campbell - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/14 with GuyVG

wow, sick on leg, wide eyes at the top.
GuyVG - 2nd O/S - 16/Aug/14 with duncan campbell

P2
mikeshewring - AltLd O/S - 30/Jul/14 with sharpie

Patrick Hill - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/14 with Dan Geh

Such a good route. Got covered in chunder by the angry fulmar just below the roof, added to the experience. Really intimidating pull through the roof!
Dan Geh - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/14 with Paddy

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/May/14

mike mo - 2014

Did first pitch clean,only to be confronted by a Fulmar that repeatedly vomited in my direction every time it caught eye contact with me,leaving me no choice but to make a belay in an earlier stance than the normal one. Then eventually led the 2nd half,but sadly popped off after getting through the lip due to being completely pumped out from trying to avoid the nest area!what a great route though!
jon_gill1 - Lead dog - 25/Aug/13 with ross garfoot

Epic fail. Imogen went up first, then I did. Got scared by the bird hissing at me. Came down, got scared, thought I was going to die and went for a swim. Thanks to the guys for putting an Ab rope down and saving our gear. Should have read the guidebook and done it in one pitch. Awesome route which I must come back for.
dprctr - Lead dnf - 22/Aug/13 with Imogen Fish

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/13

Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 24/Jul/13 with Mark Grist

The Grist - AltLd O/S - 24/Jul/13 with Sam Simpson

Fucking birds!!! lead as one pitch
Jake Young - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/13 with Climbingsheep, Mike

Lead both pitches. Best climb ever.
The_Boy_ODwyer - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/13 with Colin Harvey

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Apr/13

A truly great climb especially when done in one pitch. Sustained, well protected and great positions.
Tubs - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/13 with Dave M

jcw - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Mark led first pitch up to the thread and brought me up to there. The tide was coming in and the sea rough so I needed to move off the ledge. I went from the thread to the cave, straight over the roof and emerged to find it raining. A classic Mother Scarey's adventure!
gjd - AltLd O/S - 25/Sep/12 with Mark V

Amazing. Bottom was dry. Lead in one pitch. Pulling through the roof is epic!
Stuart Johnston - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/12 with Dave Cowell

Ed morris - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/12 with Dickon

Quality
dave o - AltLd O/S - 20/Sep/12 with Dave Cowan

Led 1st pitch, great route
Dangerous Dave - AltLd O/S - 20/Sep/12 with Dave O

A great adventure. P2
Ed Babs - AltLd O/S - 19/Sep/12 with AlexD

Awesome in every way!
AlexD - AltLd O/S - 19/Sep/12 with Ed

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/12

Brilliant route! Led over the roof to the fresh air finish.
Stefan_Morris - AltLd - 03/Sep/12 with Dickon Morris

Crux of the first pitch was visibly soaking from the ground but decided to try anyway. After hanging around for ages chalking all the holds was seriously pumped so had to rest on the rope. Still a great route and probably not particularly hard for E2 when dry.
pembrokeshirecaver - AltLd - 03/Sep/12 with Stefan Morris

What an experience! Needed a couple of rests on P1 as got a bit tired when not completely sure where to go. Highly recommended to do in 2 pitches for the outrageous belay position! Top pitch was mental!
Cardi - Lead dog - 30/Aug/12 with Tom R

James Marshall - 2nd - 24/Jul/12 with Pete Shepherd

erbridger - 2nd - 22/May/12

Had a nighmare seconding this after Jonny placed gear off route. Fell off at the roof and had to prussik over it.
pmurdy - 2nd - 11/Mar/12 with Jonny Reay

Wow. Pretty ridiculous! As one massive pitch. For the record it goes pretty much straight up from the ledge left of Stargate.
JRae - Lead - 11/Mar/12 with Paul M

P1, Fair amount of bird puke involved in this one. Brilliant route!
Ollie B - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/11 with L.Postlewaith

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/11

went back to lead the second pitch. awesome fun, be careful of the nesting bird who was actually really relaxed in our presence
davesimpson - AltLd rpt - Aug/11 with Dean Russel

Wild moves on awesome jugs over the overhang. Went up the arete which was ok...bit loose at the top though.
thomasadixon - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/11 with Mike

One 5c move in the groove. Totally dry but birds nesting in the cave made it awkward. Ran out of slings as I was expecting to do it in two pitches. Magnificent.
Ian Jones - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/11 with Roger Benton

Nicola - 2nd β - 03/Jul/11 with Lee

benchwarmer - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/11 with Konrad

pipof747 - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/11

Fantastic route. The nesting Fulmar at the first belay was so gonna kick my ass though. I got a surprise when it introduced itself!
robin_hackney - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/11 with Si

In one long pitch. Start has a tricky bit with greasy smears. Beneath and above the roof were nesting fuckwings so took a swerving line through the roof which felt about 5c. You could quite safely climb the route just on slings probably. More jugs than a jug mueseum.
Alex Mason - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Chris Carroll

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2011

mwatson - 2011

Hidden - Lead - 26/Sep/10

colkurtz - 2nd dog - 26/Sep/10 with Robb

Got a bit more than we had bargained for. The tide was in so decided to abseil down the finishing corner, which led straight into the sea, so had to do some jiggery pockery with placing several bits of gear half way down to force the abseil line onto the boulders below the arch. Very exciting but completely pointless as could just have abbed in on the other side of the arch and walked under it. Phil had fun following this ab line and having to take out the gear while I tried to hold the rope in. Phil was going to do the first pitch but pumped out half way up, so I pulled the ropes through and took over. Found it rather hard to the half way point. Later realised that we had started up Star Gate, which is why the moves felt more like 5c. Went on to finish the route in one pitch as Phil didn't fancy leading the overhang. Brilliant wild climbing over the roof. Should go back and do the proper first pitch and the Fresh Air Finish.
Misha - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/10 with Phil

Started up the start to stargate instead of deep space on stone cold arms - did not last long! Misha got on and did the lot as arms were dead and feeling bad after 2am arrival. Much easier second time around.
philhilo - 2nd RP - 28/Aug/10 with misha

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Jul/10

Brilliant brilliant route! Lead it throughout. My wife retreated from the cave belay after much wailing and gnashing of teeth had taken place. She really wasn't liking the look of that roof either! I abbed off and stripped the whole route then treated her to an ascent of The Cracks. (Aren't I nice!!) ;)
Cragrat Rich - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/10

Brilliant
just one more - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/10 with tony l, Svenn G

Jessie Rushbrooke - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/10 with GF

Ed Booth - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/10

Adam Booth - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/10 with Ed Booth

Done in one pitch
metal arms - Lead O/S - 04/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2010

Seymore Butt - 2010

Sam the Butcher - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/09 with andy latta and tom ce

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/May/09

davesimpson - Lead dog - May/09 with charles ramadan

Brown - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/09 with John

Hidden - AltLd - 2009

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Jul/08

Still brilliant and very atmospherc - Emily took a different line on pitch two and joined up with Inner Space for the chockstone bit...
Chad123 - AltLd O/S - 19/May/08 with Emily

VPJB - 2008

the juicy dangler - 2nd O/S - 18/Sep/07 with rob greenwood

2 rests on lower section
ASchwirtz - Lead dog - 27/Aug/07 with Neil Hills

Hidden - 2nd β - 24/Jul/07

waltersp - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/07 with Nick

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/07

Rob Kennard - 2007

chris wyatt - Lead O/S - 2007 with Nik Goile

I got pitch 2 and was thankful. P1 was slimy and desperate due to humidity
Billg - AltLd - 2007

There is currently a fulmar in the cave where you are meant to belay - so could only do first pitch :(
datoon - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/06 with MJ

feilx - 2nd - 15/Jul/06 with Sue Hazel

Boy - 2006

Bern - 2006

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2006

amazing. be careful for birds in cave by belay!
david morse - Lead dog - Aug/05 with rampant

Classic route taking an amazing line out into mid air.....
Chad123 - AltLd O/S - Aug/05 with Huw

Dave Reeve - AltLd O/S - Aug/05 with Tony Payne

One slip on the slimy bit up the first pitch. Got straight back on.
chrishedgehog - Lead dog - 01/May/05 with LMC

SteveM - 2nd - 01/May/05 with Chris

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - 2005

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/04

Steve Crowe - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/04 with KM

ian caton - Lead O/S - 2003 with Abi

dickypips - AltLd O/S - 2003

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/02

belay bunny turned bad - AltLd - 2001 with loundsy

robbo157 - 2001 with Tim Sparrow

Hidden - Apr/00

Marti999 - Lead - 2000

Hidden - Lead - 2000

Tim M - 2000

ellis - Lead O/S - Sep/99 with Sam Chinnery, Ally Coull

Pitch one
shoulders - AltLd O/S - 01/Aug/99 with pete lewis, dai

Hidden - Lead - 26/Jul/99

awesome & superb. one of the best routes ever!
nickdonohue - AltLd - 02/Aug/98 with Dave Chapman

Ched - Lead O/S - 1998 with Glanfor

Dave Musgrove Jnr - AltLd - 08/Sep/96 with Al Willoner

Steep climbing on pitch 1
phardman - Lead O/S - 06/Sep/95 with Jon Bibby

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/95

NeilGriffiths - 1995 with Paul Tucker

whispering nic - Lead - Aug/93 with Graham Iles

mikej - AltLd - 18/Jun/92 with Mike Byles

Rich Kirby - AltLd - 29/Mar/91 with Andy Mackay/Dave Taylor/Ian/PaulTanton

ChrisJD - Lead - 12/May/90

Dave Rumney - AltLd - Jul/89

Nick Biven - Lead - 02/Jun/89

Hidden - 1989

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 1988

William Robertson - Lead O/S - 1988 with Emily, Steve, Shaun etc

Hidden - Lead - 08/Jul/87

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - AltLd - Jun/87 with Andy Hyslop

John Marsland - AltLd - 17/Apr/87 with Dave Mould

andy gittins - 1987

shark - AltLd - 12/Apr/86 with Chris

Paul Clarke - 1985 with LUMC, FMC

Mike Owen - 17/Apr/84 with Phil Ralph

Nigel Coe - AltLd - 29/Aug/83 with Pete Oxley, Tim Dunsby

Mark Kemball - AltLd - 13/Apr/82 with Dave Fernley

Hidden - Lead - 09/Apr/82

Dave Musgrove - AltLd - 17/Apr/81 with Kim Greenald

Hidden - 1981

Chris Craggs - Lead - 1980

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