Sabre Cut*** VS 4c
[Damo entering the final corner pitch, 3 kb]55m, 2 pitches.

Rockfax Description
Another Pass classic. The top pitch requires a certain love of wide cracks. Start at a corner by a small tree, 4m right of Dives/Better Things.
1) 4c, 32m. Climb the corner, then head right over vegetated ground to The Forest.
2) 4b, 25m. Follow the wide and sustained corner-crack to the top. Protection is a bit fiddly without very big cams, and the whole thing is awkward. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: The 100 Best UK VS routes?, North Wales Rock Graded List, UK Classic Corners, North wales road to ruins HVS.

Photo: Damo entering the final corner pitch © deejmonkey
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dkd - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/15 with Al

bob johnson - AltLd - 19/Jul/15 with Rich Ball

PeteMc - AltLd - 11/Jul/15 with Tom French

tom0french - AltLd O/S - 11/Jul/15 with Pete McNamee

Stickle Tarn - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/15

noemie5438 - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/15 with Mark

Ian Stirrups - AltLd - 10/Jul/15 with Sue

Led P2, a great pitch but not the easiest to protect without a rack of huge cams
Andrew Lodge - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/15 with Dave

dan meandered round to the right towards spiral stairs giving a bolder start (hvs/e1). The second pitch has very little in terms of reliable gear but climbing easy and interesting. Rapped off in one 60m.
ndraper1 - Lead - 03/Jul/15

I would strongly recommend taking a size four Camelot or a similarly big cam, the second pitch was very bold without one.
Brendan - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/15 with Del

rfdl100 - AltLd O/S - Jul/15 with Rikki

Albachoss - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/15 with Amy

Little Amy - 2nd O/S - 29/Jun/15 with Alex

Tom lead the first pitch and I lead the second. Definitely would have been easier with big cams. A testing but brilliant route
omaskrey - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/15 with Tom Williams

twill - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/15 with Oli Maskrey

Lead pitch one, felt hard with new shoes on polished footholds. Second pitch looks like an intimidating wide crack but jugs/crimps everywhere on the side, don't need to crack climb at all
catrin289 - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/15 with Rona

Pitch 2 only
Gav Williams - 2nd - 19/Jun/15 with Julian Lane

P2 only as P1 looked a bit crappy, so did Dives first, which made for an excellent combo. P2 is a 'big pitch' up the stunning line of the slightly curving corner high above the valley. This is NOT your standard 4b outing ! I had to have a word with myself before committing to the middle section where enforced calmness and careful planning of moves meant that it all worked out nicely.
Jules Lane - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/15 with Mynydd Gavin

Matthew Ferrier - 2nd - 18/Jun/15 with Alex McCann

amccann - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/15 with Matt Ferrier

On a guided day with Libby Peters. Abbed in and climbed the 2nd pitch only. Great route
minty1984 - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/15

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/15

Not sure we did the first pitch right but the second one was great and Andy made it look easy.
Tom Pillow - 2nd O/S - 13/Jun/15 with Andy McCoy

alexm198 - AltLd O/S - 04/Jun/15 with Matt Harle

Not much gear on second pitch, probably hard 5a
ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 27/May/15 with Claire Duffield

Ed Booth - AltLd rpt - 26/May/15 with nick scott

Very awkward bridging and few good gear palcements.
wynniemandela - 2nd - 23/May/15 with Luke Farrar

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/May/15

davebrox - 21/May/15 with Vanders

AndrewP - AltLd rpt - 13/May/15

Lead 2nd Pitch. Tough but very exciting. Quite interesting in the Very wet and cold but nice to pretty much have the crag to ourselves on a bank holiday!
Maywood96 - AltLd - 04/May/15 with Chris lucas

Hidden - Lead - 04/May/15

Really enjoyed this route. Day 5 of PYB "Moving Out" course. Feels like being miles above the Pass and some moves that made me think!
JenShelley - 2nd - 10/Apr/15

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Apr/15

Teappleby - Lead - 10/Apr/15 with Hannah Richardson

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Apr/15

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Apr/15

P1. Great to be be back at the pass! Cracking second pitch, but sustained and awkward with care needed for the gear. Good lead from Giles getting his lead head back on and a good start to the weekend trip
Stanners - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/15 with Giles

Lead pitch 1 after having accidently done P2 as my second lead! Much more pleasant three years on and good to see I've made some progress!
Sam Husband - AltLd rpt - 21/Mar/15 with Tom

ian Wignall - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/15

Lovely climb. . A bit too much after the night we'd had.
adi bryant - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/15 with ian Wignall

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Feb/15

Hidden - 2015

Managed to get off-route and do the bottom pitch of Dives/ Better Things, and the top pitch of this. Bold pitch, good lead by Alex!
mzk - 2015

tomlevett - 2015

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Nov/14

bencoope - Lead O/S - 15/Nov/14

Lead 1st pitch. Second pitch was harder, although the guide book seems to think otherwise.
Knut - AltLd - 15/Nov/14

Martin Bagshaw - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/14 with Ed Green

Lead corner pitch, tough but fun! Most of my blind placed gear fell out which was worrying but a great route!
aljones91 - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/14 with Ben hester

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Oct/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Sep/14

mjeffery - AltLd O/S - 22/Sep/14

largejason - AltLd O/S - 22/Sep/14

Pero - Lead - 21/Sep/14

Hidden - AltLd - 17/Sep/14

stuart34 - 2nd - 15/Sep/14

Peter Metcalfe - AltLd - 14/Sep/14 with Roger Chaldecott

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/14

very good despite the polish, but 4b on the upper pitch? really?! had a serious wobble on the second pitch after a foot slipped...
Alex the Alex - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/14

bomtall - AltLd O/S - 06/Sep/14 with Jed Taylor

Lead second pitch
jeddb - AltLd O/S - 06/Sep/14 with bomtall

I led p1. P2 is simply amazing. What a pitch!!
David_Gledson - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/Sep/14

KKilroy - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/14 with james hales

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Sep/14

only did 1st picth then abed off
handofgod - 2nd O/S - Sep/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/14

HB-Pencil - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/14

JamesLloyd - AltLd O/S - 28/Jul/14

kenneM - Lead - 25/Jul/14 with Nick Murray, Davey Luke

I led the first pitch which felt a little run out in places though I'm pretty sure I went a little off route. Though that the second pitch would be nice for my partners first trad lead, BIG mistake! He put in a heroic effort then gave up and I lowered him off his gear 1/3 up the big crack, we swapped rope ends then I went up and finished it. Really awesome climbing but yet another sandbag VS in the pass in my opinion :P
jsmcfarland - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/14 with Alan

alanblyth - AltLd - 20/Jul/14

Ross led P1, I led P2, crux on the first pitch took a bit of working out although apparently I missed a jug. Stepping across from the ramp on P2 is pretty interesting, the route is fairly well protected without needing massive gear in a crack on the right, but all of the gear is placed blind and you can't really make sure it is seated fantastically. Easily worth 3 stars!
spenser - AltLd O/S - 18/Jul/14 with Ross

rosiehawker - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/14 with Geoff Hannis

Dizz - AltLd rpt - 01/Jul/14 with Martina

Ben Briggs - Lead O/S - Jul/14 with Abs

Led both pitches.
maria85 - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/14 with Ronnie

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Jun/14

PS leading rob and I seconding. A wonderful climb
mistymarsh - 2nd - 28/Jun/14

Nigel Coe - AltLd - 24/Jun/14 with Pete Kelly

Led P2. Tremendous. First pitch very steep. 2nd pitch just has to be experienced. Look for hidden jugs and take the largest cams you have (Size 4 camalot minimum)
planetmarshall - AltLd - 22/Jun/14 with Ned

ned_85 - AltLd - 22/Jun/14 with Andrew Marshall

lead 2nd pitch which is 4c! and used internal crack for pro
steve phillips - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/14 with Alison

Alison Cairns - 2nd - 21/Jun/14 with steve phillips

davewsargent - AltLd O/S - 20/Jun/14 with andy neath

Did first pitch of Dives/Better Things then accidentally ended up on the second pitch of this! Ellie had a mini epic leading and got her leg wedged in the crack, had to be rescued via an abseil and a lot of pulling!
charlielow - 2nd dnf - 18/Jun/14 with Ellie Fuller

Foolishly ended up on this after Dives/Better this. Got my leg firmly and painfully wedged in the steep crack that was too big for any of my gear... twice!so much so the second time that I had to be rescued by ab. Lessons were learnt!
Ella7 - Lead dnf - 18/Jun/14 with charlielow

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Jun/14

darcan - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/14 with beau

Didn't have big enough gear for crack of second pitch so ran it out all the way. Felt safe though
Senna - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/14

Good route, both pitches should be 4c
jtree03 - 2nd - 13/Jun/14 with Col, Brother Al

Col Kingshott - AltLd - 13/Jun/14

Led first pitch
grrrrrrrh - AltLd O/S - 05/Jun/14 with Rosie Hawker

Sardien - Lead rpt - 31/May/14 with Phine, Sophie Ackermann

Lead P1. First 5m were lovely. Fantastic 2nd pitch.
davkeo - AltLd O/S - 30/May/14 with Cearbhall Daly

Led P2
cearbhalld - AltLd O/S - 30/May/14 with Dave Keogh

Sustained corner climbing; crack too big for gear but some placements in smaller internal crack and wall. High adrenaline, good, thinking climbing on p2 with probably good small wires placed half blindly so a little faith is good. Hard to fall off from.
alaster tonge - Lead O/S - 30/May/14 with Lailah, Assad Lahlou

tobydunford - AltLd O/S - 30/May/14 with Harry Martin

RyanOsborne - 2nd - 18/May/14

Diggler - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14 with stemill

Led P2 - not 4b!
stemill - AltLd - 17/May/14 with Mark

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14

steve_gibbs - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14 with Ollie Stevens

John Nuttall - Lead - 17/May/14 with Andy H

Ended up leading this instead of 'Better Things' by accident. Definitely not 4b! 5a climbing, maybe 4c if your good in offwidths.. Felt very serious, and very run out; didn't have any big gear. Also couldn't see how good my placements were and kicked out and essential nut.
Sol Armer - AltLd O/S - 15/May/14

JanBella - 2nd O/S - 06/May/14 with matt

Tom Redmond - AltLd O/S - 02/May/14 with joe cossey

chancer - AltLd O/S - 02/May/14 with Fraser Campbell

Morris123 - AltLd - 21/Apr/14

jack 9895 - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/14

Richardlake - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/14 with William Lake

Lead P1
Jonathan Richardson - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/14 with Russ

will_lake - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/14 with Richard Lake

pravski - Lead - 16/Apr/14

deejmonkey - AltLd - 13/Apr/14 with Damian

Daymo - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/14 with DJ

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Apr/14

jezb1 - 2nd - 11/Apr/14

will moy - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/14 with Jez

carl_123 - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/14

Julesthe1st - AltLd O/S - 15/Mar/14 with Andrea, Mike

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Mar/14

Led p2
djking1983 - AltLd O/S - 11/Mar/14 with Andy Smith

David Kay - AltLd O/S - 08/Mar/14 with Moritz Lessmann

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Mar/14

Hidden - AltLd - Mar/14

Hidden - 2014

Si - 2014

mike mo - 2014

Alfie Conn - 2014

Allanfairfechan - 2014

mileshill540 - Lead - 2014

Second pitch harder of the two
Dan Hostford - Lead O/S - 30/Nov/13 with Fudge

andrew549 - 2nd O/S - 24/Nov/13

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Nov/13

will_benfold - Lead O/S - 09/Nov/13 with Tor Nockles

tcn_2002 - AltLd - 09/Nov/13 - 2nd - 28/Sep/13

lead both pitches, pt 2 is harder pitch despite given grades.
Simon Cahill - Lead rpt - 28/Sep/13 with

malteserEd - Lead - 22/Sep/13

Adrianw - 2nd - 22/Sep/13 with Adam Spiller

Maybe I didnt find the hidden holds inside the crack, but even still, P2 was no 4b. Technical 4c/5a IMHO. Enjoyable climbing though, like an easy Cenotaph Corner.
Dr Toph - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/13 with Emily

Hidden - AltLd - 02/Sep/13

GC P1; GOS P2 - sustained corner climbing; crack too big for gear but some placements in smaller internal crack. High adrenaline
GOS - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/13 with George C

georgec - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/13 with Gerard O'Sullivan

Hidden - 31/Aug/13

Freshprintce - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/13 with Will Warrington

Protection fiddly in back of crack but nice climb
Andre Clarke - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/13 with jamster

Craigyboy13 - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/13

L 2nd pitch. Awkward climbing. Nice.
Double Knee Bar - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/13

Awesome route, plenty of pockets and crimps inside the crack to use. Hard work but really enjoyable.
Mouse5 - 2nd β - 24/Aug/13 with Tom Hatt

Lead P1 which went no problem, Second pitch no technically hard but need very big gear to protect.
andycash - AltLd O/S - 20/Aug/13 with Ash

Lead pt 1, Ray lead pt 2, still found pt 2 the harder pitch despite the guidebook suggesting pitch one is 4c and pitch two 4b, Note crack (Pt2)doesn't take much gear unless you have huge cams, side wall takes a range of nuts.
Simon Cahill - AltLd rpt - 10/Aug/13 with Ray Sparks

Ray Sparks - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/13 with Simon Cahill

both pitches, to remind me how wires work after a couple of years off... would have helped if half the placements hadn't been blind... Friend 4 would also have helped!
Jim Brooke - Lead - 10/Aug/13 with Rich

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/Aug/13

SimonvanDam - AltLd - 10/Aug/13 with Matt Roberts

roberts1234567890 - AltLd - 10/Aug/13 with Simon Van Dam

robgixer - Lead - Aug/13

Lead 2nd pitch with rich. Very exposed long runout at top
grakgrak - AltLd O/S - 28/Jul/13 with Richard hughes

Dan Vaj - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/13 with Khalid

Lead the corner, placed cams 3, 4 & 5. Plenty of wires, some placed blind inside the wide crack but they felt good. It's a long pitch with serious feel.
Shone - Lead - 27/Jul/13 with Rob

Great second pitch. Avoided the run out with big cams and moved them as I went along. Also good wires. Didn't feel that it was so run out.
khalidq - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/13 with Dan Vajzovic

No choice but to run that bad boy top crack out!
martin c - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/13

Hidden - AltLd - 24/Jul/13

Very good but incredibly bold 2nd pitch which had a very long run out section (possibly 15m). Falling near the top would be very serious! No way 4b climbing either more like 4c / 5a.
wild_nomad - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Dean, Kevin

Helen Gibson - AltLd - 16/Jul/13 with Max

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Jul/13

Led the fantastic pitch 2. Bridged virtually the whole pitch with almost no jamming. No gear in the upper half despite ample time dedicated to trying to find placements in the cracks within the wide crack. Maybe used my only number 4 friend too early low down as ground fall potential by the top of the pitch.
Big Lee - AltLd O/S - 06/Jul/13 with Stephen Holmes

Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/13 with Ally Hurst

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/13

I lead pitch 1
CurlyStevo - AltLd - Jul/13 with Lee H

jack adams - AltLd O/S - Jul/13 with craig lukins

ifletcher - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/13 with Daniel Geh, tgeh

Don't see why people think p2 is bold i laced the route with mainly nuts, didn't use a big cam
tgeh - AltLd O/S - 25/Jun/13 with imogene, dan geh

Dan Geh - AltLd O/S - 25/Jun/13 with ifletcher, Thomas Geh

Kevin Robert Jones - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/13 with Tomos Davies

woody0606 - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/13 with Kyle Williamson

Pitch 1. First pitch is good fun, but second is amazing- gets pretty bold near the top because of the widening crack.
Goodstuff - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/13

Kyle87 - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead - 18/Jun/13

Nigel R Lewis - 2nd - 18/Jun/13 with Steve Kedward

small nuts not big cams, stitched up the crack on the inside right.
miles01 - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/13

second pitch definately not 4b
Jenny Hall - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/13 with Louis

P1 = a right steep sausage, P2 = toughest 4b I ever did see, ran that puppy out cos I wanted out of there.
Louis Hume - Lead - 08/Jun/13 with Jenny

Lead 1st pitch
Bert - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13

bobpilgrem - Lead rpt - 04/Jun/13 with Bob/Nic

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/13

BeckyS - 2nd - 01/Jun/13

With Bunny and stu, Led 1st pitch, second pitch burly.
Brannock - AltLd O/S - 01/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Jun/13

John led the first pitch which felt intimidatingly steep. I led the second pitch which was a wide crack in a corner which was wider than my largest piece of gear (blue cam placed low down). Ended up running out the top of the pitch as I couldn't find gear and became very committed.
MPSBunny - AltLd O/S - 01/Jun/13 with Stu Coxon, John Brannock

steve prior - AltLd - Jun/13 with Roger C

I shat myself on the second pitch
rbharries - AltLd O/S - 31/May/13 with Greg Edwards

JenRoberts - 2nd O/S - 31/May/13 with Lee

Goose4 - AltLd O/S - 31/May/13 with Sophie Heron

Pero - AltLd O/S - 26/May/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13

redshapedfriday - AltLd O/S - 24/May/13 with Bram

BTphonehome - AltLd O/S - 24/May/13 with Graham H

Rachel Somerville - AltLd O/S - 19/May/13 with David

I lead P1, Gareth lead P2. Top pitch is great.
AndrewP - AltLd O/S - 05/May/13 with Gareth Thomas, FelixPeterken

A very pleasurable climb, with a lot of bridging on the top pitch.
FelixPeterken - 2nd O/S - 05/May/13 with Andrew Peterken

Gareth T - AltLd O/S - 05/May/13 with Adrew Peterken

jameslam - Lead O/S - 04/May/13 with Dom Wild, Bosh

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/May/13

Lead top section with no gear....big cams essential!
leeoftroy - Lead O/S - May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/13

Hidden - Lead - 30/Apr/13

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Apr/13

Bex_M - AltLd O/S - 25/Apr/13 with Gianluca

Great climb, stiff second pitch, more 4c than 4b. Big cams required for second pitch.
Johnywilks - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/13

JonesJ - 2nd O/S - 22/Apr/13

Johnywilks - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/13

tim newton - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/13 with george

herman0055 - AltLd - 20/Apr/13

shed_hed - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/13

Bring Gear big enough for the crack or be ready for one hell of a runout
magicdougie - Lead - 10/Apr/13 with JCAshman

JCAshman - AltLd O/S - 08/Apr/13

led pitch 2
georgedunton - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/13 with Ryan Lang

Hidden - AltLd - 03/Mar/13

RKirke - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Tom Bushell

Ben1983 - Lead O/S - 02/Mar/13

Lead P2. Ran it all out at the end, good route!
67hours - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Steeeeeve

tombushell - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Roger Kirke

Hidden - Lead - 02/Feb/13

Sam Melville - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Richard Kinsman - Lead O/S - 2013

rob16 - 2013

tim20 - 2013

Andy Chadwick - 2013

DubyaJamesDubya - 2013

neilh - 2013

Tony Kartawick - 2013

Hidden - 18/Nov/12

With 1st pitch of dives/better things. Top pitch, good corner pitch.
Danjones - 2nd rpt - 21/Oct/12 with George, Steve Keys

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Oct/12

Lead P2. Hard for 4b, tricky to protect. Ran out instead.
tomwheeler - AltLd - 07/Oct/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12

helenstuart - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/12 with Mike

papashango - AltLd - 08/Sep/12 with Rob

Hidden - Lead β - 08/Sep/12

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Sep/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/12

stuart34 - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/12 with tim ashlin

David Robinson - Lead - 11/Aug/12 with Steve Vincent

Steve Vincent - 2nd - 11/Aug/12 with David Robinson

jon_ridley - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/12 with Emily Cropton

Emily Cropton - 2nd - 10/Aug/12 with Jon Ridley

Led the second pitch and managed to get my fingers well and truly stuck in a crack. Apart from that minor setback cracking crack climbing.
tomparrott - AltLd O/S - 28/Jul/12 with DJ

deejmonkey - AltLd - 28/Jul/12 with Tom

The Bad Cough - AltLd rpt - 27/Jul/12 with John Sealey

jon22 - AltLd - 27/Jul/12 with The Bad Cough

Kevster - 2nd - 21/Jul/12

tonevert - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/12 with Kevin Faux

jonleighton - Lead O/S - 26/May/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/May/12

Pitch 2. 4b?
Yong_Welsh - Lead O/S - 25/May/12 with Jason

jason reeve - AltLd O/S - 24/May/12 with iwan

Led pitch 1, good upper crack.
Ross.Cooper - AltLd O/S - 22/May/12 with Phil Wilkinson

Ld P1. Thought the climb was pretty straight forward and P2 had plenty of gear on the inner crack.
jezb1 - AltLd - 16/May/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/May/12

paddy1024 - Lead O/S - 15/May/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/May/12

2nd Pitch no way is this 4b, hard to protect without large cams (which i didnt have)
Frank Blakeley - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12 with Mike Turner, Simon

Mike Turner - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12 with Simon Cahill, Frank Blakeley

Led Pitch 2
John Lewis - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12 with Barra, Simon

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/May/12

P2 only, after doing P1 of Dives/Better Things.
StevieG_7 - Lead O/S - 06/May/12 with Andy Stratford

UncleMephisto - Lead O/S - May/12 with Joe Newport

dont get your get stuck
pete87abs - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/12 with Rosie Crossley

namagnall - 2nd - 14/Apr/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Apr/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Apr/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/12

Hidden - AltLd - 30/Mar/12

Dan724 - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/12 with Dan Ely

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Mar/12

joe_lancs - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/12

Hidden - Lead - 26/Mar/12

Danny Crump - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/12 with Sarah Pentelow

Second pitch only after first two pitches of Spiral Stairs. Lovely climb, limited protection!
Sam Husband - AltLd O/S - 19/Mar/12 with Tom

Hidden - 02/Mar/12

ldadams - AltLd O/S - Mar/12 with Nigel

tombushell - 2nd - Mar/12 with Sam Husband

Hidden - Mar/12

davidtrelawnyross - 2012

Ian JL - 2012

Ugly beast.
alan moore - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Josh Dickerson - 2nd O/S - 2012 with Andy Lawrence

Stewart Armstrong - 2012

captain dringo - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Tony Kartawick - 2012

cmarsden5 - 2012 with Nathan Magnall

Stone Idle - 2012

Hidden - Lead - 2012

down p2
wi11 - Solo rpt - 14/Nov/11

adam 24 - Lead O/S - 05/Nov/11

FrenchOlly - Lead O/S - Nov/11

pete_fewings - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/11

Excellent climb, both pitches good quality
fizzychewitt - AltLd - 02/Oct/11 with Jayne

Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 30/Sep/11 with Ellen Cobby

Ellen Cobby - 2nd dog - 30/Sep/11 with Adam Booth

wi11 - AltLd O/S - 28/Sep/11 with Meg

Hidden - Lead - 01/Sep/11

Climbed with Lee but not logged at time, repeated 12th May 2012 as second with Frank & Mike, wet hands, so so cold, wouldn't have wanted to lead.
Simon Cahill - AltLd - 22/Aug/11

Led P1, Pete led P2 in the rain, really enjoyable route, will do again in the dry. All this was after Pete decided to do his own thing on the face, lowered off then handed me the rack, at the stance on actual sabre cut lowered him to get his gear, good times haha
Blurgy319 - AltLd O/S - 18/Aug/11 with Peter Williams

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/11

Started 2nd pitch in drizzle, turned to downpour half way up so retreated and abbed off. Great 1st pitch though.
fizzychewitt - AltLd dnf - 06/Aug/11 with Jayne

Led 1st pitch
Adi Hooper - AltLd - 05/Aug/11 with Tom M Greenwood

mikeshewring - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/11

lead both pitches. Found second pitch harder, but also a lot better than first pitch
alexjz - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/11 with Matt

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Jul/11

Hidden - AltLd - 26/Jul/11

martrin - AltLd - 24/Jul/11 with Sarah Kekus

robman - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/11

Nice 1st pitch for a 4c?? 2nd pitch very scrappy lot's of bridging and shuffling with one harder move just below the top, I used my heel on the edge of the huge (lose your leg huge) crack to gain further holds before topping out.
Matthew Scott-Chalmers - 2nd - 23/Jul/11 with Robert Evans

p1 only to get to Foil
Jon Didymus - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/11 with Rich

mfisher - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/11 with Olly Roberts

Pitch 1
ollyroberts - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/11 with Matty

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/11

climbed in from the v diff that crosses it then did the second pitch. nice climb, a bit bold for vs.
vertically_challenged - 2nd O/S - 04/Jul/11

Led p2
cem - AltLd O/S - 03/Jul/11 with Peter Murphy

petegruf - AltLd - 03/Jul/11 with charles m

lead 2nd pitch - very good and quite intense for VS
catblack - AltLd O/S - 01/Jul/11 with Andy Barker

Led pitch 2. Quite hard and a bit run out at crux.
daveyji - Lead - Jul/11 with Linda Williamson

Led second pitch.
ajeakins - AltLd O/S - Jul/11 with Elliot

Lead p1, p2 made for a fun second
icTris - AltLd O/S - Jul/11 with Fresher

Elliot P1, Adrian P2
Elliot Carrington - AltLd O/S - Jul/11 with Adrian Jeakins

great second pitch, terrible first
J.Wells - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/11 with Jasmine Taplin

A tough climb on a rainy day. We were the only climbers out all day... I wonder why!!! I love this route.
blueroly - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/11 with Oleg Makarov

Hidden - Lead - 19/Jun/11

Found the last pitch tiring, changed leads on the last pitch
iwanap - AltLd O/S - 13/Jun/11 with Gerwyn

simon1965 - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/11 with dom

led 2nd pitch
Tom Keaveny - AltLd O/S - 04/Jun/11 with bweakers

matty123 - AltLd - 04/Jun/11 with Tom Keaveny

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11

Lev - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/11 with Emma Ross

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/11

JasTaplin - AltLd O/S - Jun/11 with Jonathan Wells

Hidden - AltLd - Jun/11

chrism225 - Lead O/S - 28/May/11 with Nat

selbs83 - Lead O/S - 15/May/11

My guide (ground up) says the first pitch is 4c but the second is definitely harder.
Ceridwen - AltLd O/S - 25/Apr/11 with Phil

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/11

Led 1st pitch.
mksmith35 - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/11 with Ian Webster

iwebster59017 - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/11 with Mike Smith

led first pitch. Second is harder with a few lovely moves, but bit polished.
psychomansam - AltLd - 19/Apr/11

Si led pitch 1 and I led pitch 2.
Katex - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/11 with Simon Edwards

Ashley Hold - AltLd rpt - 19/Apr/11 with Ruth Littlejohn

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/11

was a really good climb. climbed really well
andrewlyons14 - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/11 with Andy Mcque

ian d f - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/11 with Mark

markfromstoke - AltLd - 18/Apr/11 with Ian

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/11

Lenny - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/11 with John

We started up Spiral Stairs, but it was my turn to lead the second pitch and I was drawn to the corner crack that forms the top pitch of this route, for which it would later transpire I was woefully ill-racked in terms of big cams. All I'll say is it's pretty sandbagged at VS 4b! That's not to say I didn't love every second though! Pretty wonderful climbing.
DKaye - AltLd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Matt Ringrose

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/11

matt_ringrose - AltLd - 09/Apr/11 with Duncan Kaye

windy and damp
Andy Peak 1 - Lead - 06/Apr/11 with Dom pipe

stargazer85 - AltLd - Apr/11

Greenman28 - Apr/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Apr/11

Nice route. The top corner is steeper than it looks. Managed to wedge my knee in at one point, great for getting a rest, not so good for upward progress! Plenty of small nut placements, the main crack being just larger than my largest cam.
Monkey_Alan - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Steve Wales

Max P1, me p2 not much gear on pitch two which adds to the character. Nice route
uncontrollable - AltLd O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Max

Max Streeton - AltLd O/S - 27/Mar/11

Led top pitch after straying off route from Dive/Better things, worth it though :P
hfac - Lead O/S - 06/Mar/11

Lead both pitches, absolutely awesome top pitch!! smaller gear is there if you want to hang round long enough to find it
mikespooner - Lead O/S - 05/Mar/11 with Keith Jackson

Pretty much soloed top pitch due to lack of bigger gear. Confident though. Nice bridging too!
Lunar25 - AltLd O/S - 20/Feb/11 with Titi

Lead pitch 1 (though got a sling stuck). Bold lead by chris on pitch 2 as didn't have much big gear.
Matt Smith - AltLd O/S - 20/Jan/11 with Chris Mclean

Hidden - 2011

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2011

adie84 - 2011

ollieben - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

bsmedz - AltLd - 2011 with Peter Sargent

bsmedz - 2011

MHutch - 2011

alasdair19 - 2011

1st pitch easy, no friends big enough for the crack so blind bits of gear all the way, oh what fun!!! Noahs Warning so much better
Rob Evans - Lead - 2011

pasbury - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Ian Andrews - AltLd O/S - 2011 with Martin Worthy

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2011

Rob Laird - AltLd O/S - 07/Nov/10

mr random - AltLd O/S - 07/Nov/10 with Rob Laird-

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Oct/10

tri-nitro-toulumne - Lead O/S - 11/Oct/10 with Rich Guest

Darrell Read - 2nd - 09/Oct/10 with Oliver Mentz

31770 - Lead O/S - 09/Oct/10 with Darrell Read

Hidden - Lead - Oct/10

Hidden - Lead - 26/Sep/10

gd303uk - 2nd O/S - 25/Sep/10 with John Rogers

Hidden - Lead rpt - 25/Sep/10

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Sep/10

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Sep/10

GarethHall - AltLd O/S - 18/Sep/10 with Gary Wong

garywong - AltLd O/S - 18/Sep/10 with Gareth Hall

davidwright - AltLd - 05/Sep/10 with Simon B

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/10

tompilgrem - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/10 with Dad

Take large friends to protect P2.I only had one and kept moving it up the crack as i climbed !
bobpilgrem - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/10 with Bob/Tom

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/10

Hidden - AltLd - 28/Aug/10

Pitch 2
metal arms - AltLd O/S - 16/Aug/10

chris smith - AltLd O/S - 05/Aug/10

Hidden - 23/Jul/10

Led P2. First pitch was a bit wet!
katiep - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/10 with Robin Head

I've lead the first pitch
Robin Head - AltLd O/S - 05/Jul/10 with Katie

My first climb in N Wales for years, and at first at Cromlech. The only clue Alison gave about the second pitch was that it was "classic style". Thankfully not classic grit thuggery or thrutching, but steady thoughtful climbing, and very commuting if you don't have any big bits of gear on you or don't get into the crack to find some hidden holds at the back of the crack on the right. Very enjoyable.
LoopyLou - AltLd - 03/Jul/10 with Alison Cairns

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10

Very bold for vs! Take a friend 5! or several...
liamoloughlin - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/10

Tim Ducker - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/10 with Jack Turner

Trisha Murphy - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/10 with jess

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/10

led second pitch, most enjoyable lead to date at time of climbing.
Webster - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/10

Jess patel - AltLd - 15/Jun/10

second pitch only after dives better things start
Richie Rich - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/10 with Pete Colley

Andrew Lester - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/10

Led both pitches. It rained mid way so top pitch wet for added excitement.
Dizz - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/10 with jt

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 06/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/10

david morse - Lead rpt - 02/Jun/10 with andy psyche

Andy Butler - Lead O/S - Jun/10

schof - 2nd O/S - Jun/10

Hidden - Jun/10

Both pitches, P2 is NOT 4b!
mikeyg - Lead O/S - 28/May/10 with Will Twigger

Awesome, little bit polished. Hardest VS I've ever done. exposed and airy, with spaced gear that can be hard to place.
Trefo - Lead O/S - 25/May/10 with Tom Waller

excellent climbing - 1st pitch felt a little bold for VS in places. 2nd pitch had some nice bridging moves. 1st of the corners ticked.
andy dunn - AltLd O/S - 23/May/10 with J

LEad P1 and went off route - through the forest instead of over the wall. Pretty horrible and easy. P2 was discribed as a pleasant corner. It is indeed, but they might add committing and tricky to that
Sardien - AltLd O/S - 22/May/10 with Simon Moore

PaulHarris - AltLd - 22/May/10 with John, Simon, Micheal

PaulHarris - AltLd - 22/May/10

lead p2. (lead p1 before) one to do twice but prob not 3 times
dan ely - AltLd O/S - 20/May/10 with rich

The second pitch that I lead (the crack) felt harder than 4b!
martinazando - AltLd O/S - 17/May/10 with Ruth L

Hidden - AltLd - 15/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/May/10

mattcyp88 - Lead O/S - 15/May/10 with Rosie Wilson

Hidden - AltLd - 15/May/10 - AltLd - 15/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/May/10

Take your extra large gear or man up on small wires. Worthwhile.
Noodles - Lead O/S - 03/May/10 with Sam Thame

sthame - 2nd O/S - 03/May/10 with Martyn Middleton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/May/10

p2 only after getting behind a very slow pair on Spiral Stairs. Managed a huge runout, quite glad I didn't fall off!
Martin Stevens - Lead O/S - 01/May/10 with Mervyn L.

Graham Westbrook - AltLd - May/10

Hidden - Lead - May/10

Hidden - May/10

Wish I'd read this first. 2nd pitch definitely bold without big cams (which I didn't have). Solid climbing tho, and very enjoyable. First pitch a bit boring.
mrtom - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/10 with Laurence Weil

Hidden - AltLd - 23/Apr/10

Bit cold out the sun! Nice route though.
Ken Applegate - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/10 with Hannah Evans

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/10

HeatherF - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/10 with Alex

lead both pitches.
The Green Giant - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/10 with Heather

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/10

J1PEF - AltLd - 11/Apr/10

stephen Rowley - AltLd dog - 10/Apr/10 with Andy

led 1st and 3rd(last) pitches
Andy_B39 - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/10 with stephen rowley

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Apr/10

Tom Vivian - AltLd - 10/Apr/10 with Paul Barlow

Tommy Cole - 2nd O/S - Apr/10

M_grif - 2nd O/S - 07/Mar/10 with Ollie Henson

awesome corner
ollieben - Lead O/S - 07/Mar/10 with matt griffiths

Led P1
theotherpetehill - AltLd O/S - 07/Feb/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Feb/10

lead p1. want to go lead p2
dan ely - AltLd O/S - 2010 with terry

Hidden - 2010

Hidden - 2010

pie_eater_pete - 2010 with ben smedley

Fenwick - 2010 with Ben Westwood

DuckingFesperate - Lead - 2010

Hidden - 2010

mcgrathr - 2010

soph - 2010

Liam FLeming - Lead - 17/Oct/09 with karen dalzell

Lead Second Pitch, having seconded curfew.
green_bhind_da_ears - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/09

Pitch 2 only after leading Curfew for pitch 1. Huge Chimney, art to climbing...
Martin Lilley - 2nd O/S - 04/Oct/09 with Tom Page

Sparky!!!3 - AltLd - 27/Sep/09

RD P1, Martin P2
rd20 - AltLd O/S - 26/Sep/09 with Martin

P2 a struggle but worth it
smolders - AltLd O/S - 26/Sep/09 with Robert D

JulesV - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/09 with Shauna Cunningham

Shauna - 2nd O/S - 26/Sep/09 with Jules

r_findlay - Lead - 25/Sep/09

Lead P1 this time
The_Boy_ODwyer - AltLd rpt - 20/Sep/09 with Rob

g1m147 - Lead - 20/Sep/09 with Steve

Abi Chard - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/09 with Ian

ian caton - 2nd β - 18/Sep/09 with Abi

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Sep/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Sep/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Sep/09

Tomprusk - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/09 with Nick

blueroly - Lead rpt - 09/Sep/09 with Oleg Makarov

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Aug/09

blueroly - 2nd O/S - 14/Aug/09 with Oleg Makarov

The top pitch is brilliant
sgl0jd - AltLd - 06/Aug/09 with Luke

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Aug/09

2nd pitch only as we started up Dives/better things
climbing_wiggy - 2nd O/S - 02/Aug/09 with Paul Cox

jelaby - AltLd O/S - 04/Jul/09 with Dave Ross, Thom Allen

beci tointen - Lead O/S - Jul/09 with my uncle carl

Led top pitch. Tricky to protect but good right thigh jams. Never 4b and not easy at VS.
Owen W-G - AltLd O/S - 13/Jun/09 with Tony Seale

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/09

First pitch only into Foil
mattyork2 - 2nd O/S - 05/Jun/09 with Johnny Richard

victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 31/May/09 with Sophie Whyte

P2 led. ive now done this several times and there is no way on this earth that the top pitch (4b) is easier than the bottom pitch (4c). plus, it really is quite hard to confidently protect unless you have very large friends. much of the gear (wires in a crack on the right wall) is placed blind. anyway, still a cracking pitch if a touch windy today.
ksjs - AltLd rpt - 30/May/09 with goosebump

Hidden - AltLd - 30/May/09

Led 2nd pitch
John Roe - AltLd - 30/May/09 with Rob Patchett

Hidden - Lead - 13/May/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/May/09

Hidden - AltLd - May/09

Hidden - AltLd - May/09

Mike lead pitch 1, I lead pitch 2. Second pitch seemed very tricky for VS 4b.
Glyn Davidson - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/09 with Mike Doyle

I led first pitch, Chris second. Second pitch pretty steep and a bit bold. Polished small holds.
bigbobbyking - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Chris Allan

chrisallan - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/09

richardhopton - AltLd O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Lee Richards

simonp - Lead O/S - Apr/09 with Nicki Hearne

Hidden - Lead dnf - 20/Mar/09

Hidden - AltLd - 15/Mar/09

Hidden - AltLd - 15/Mar/09

Hidden - 2009

Kenemo - 2009

SMc - Lead O/S - 2009 with Anne

Seymore Butt - 2009

Rich35 - Lead - 2009

jonka - 2009

Gibson27 - AltLd O/S - 2009

Wayne S - 2009 with Jon Croxford

Led second pitch
dycotiles - AltLd O/S - 02/Nov/08 with Emmanuel

1st pitch
EmmanuelF - Lead - 02/Nov/08 with Mario

Mark Walter - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/08 with Jon Bleiker

Tried to lead 1st pitch of Curfew ("Sabre Cut Direct") but dnf. Partner led this, then I went up the corner.
ducle - AltLd dog - 27/Sep/08 with Che Gannerelli

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 24/Sep/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/08

jcurley - AltLd O/S - 23/Sep/08 with Mike Buddle

Led pitch 2 - take a size 5 cam (or three of them!) next time!!!
sara n - AltLd O/S - 23/Sep/08 with CS

Glyn - AltLd O/S - 21/Sep/08 with Jade

jade Edwards Leaney - AltLd - 21/Sep/08 with glyn

barni - Lead - 14/Sep/08 with Jack

Matt Tranter - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/08 with Ryan Hanvey

led 2nd (4b) pitch
jam tart - AltLd - 23/Aug/08

Peter Reynolds - AltLd O/S - Aug/08

Very nice second pitch - half my gear bailed out down the rope in the upper section though (oops!)
RCrockford - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/08 with Gail

Simon Holden (LCandCC) - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/08 with Matt Grodon

Ewan Russell - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/08 with Celyn

dan gibson - Lead rpt - 22/Jul/08 with sam read

Started this thinking it was Dives/ Better Things, same as 2 years ago but managed to complete the route this time.
cliffy - AltLd - 13/Jul/08 with Pilar Martinez, Oli Dorrell

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Jul/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jun/08

P1 only, then onto Foil
Danos - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with Ben

Great climb. Possibly the best VS I can remember doing. Hard to protect 2nd pitch as I didn't have any friends big enough for the main crack.
HIGHTOWER - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/08 with nathan kelly

hazatgym - 2nd - 13/Jun/08 with Joe Herbert

hazatgym - 2nd - 13/Jun/08 with Joe Herbert

Guy Wilson - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/08 with Paulo

First pitch was easier than the second with difficulties short lived on the steep crack - 2nd pitch was more sustained and hard to protect. Used 2 friends that I moved up the crack with me - a friend 4 which was too small for most parts and my camalot 4 which was right at the top of its range!
markfairbank - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/08 with Mick D

Ed Babs - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/08 with John Vet

irish paul - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/08 with Sarah Joyce

ritchierich - AltLd rpt - 13/May/08 with Steve Joynson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/May/08

Hidden - AltLd - 11/May/08

alexharv3y - Lead O/S - 06/May/08

Lead the first pitch
psychicbread - AltLd O/S - 06/May/08 with Ben

davidwright - 2nd rpt - 05/May/08

AntWallace - Lead O/S - May/08 with Chris and Andy

zchael6 - Lead - May/08

jon clayton - Lead - May/08 with cherry

lol, did this thinking it was dives/better things... thought it was solid for a HS! and i dont have any small cams never mind big ones
adam06 - AltLd - 16/Apr/08 with stefan roberts

stefan7n - AltLd O/S - 16/Apr/08 with The Radcliff

Led both pitches
Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/08 with EeFu Thong

EeFu - 2nd - 05/Apr/08 with Jim Slater

First VS lead
johniebriggs - AltLd - Apr/08

Theeni - 2nd O/S - 09/Feb/08

Amazing climb.
nathan_kelly - 2nd - 14/Jan/08 with hightower

Matt Vigg - 2008

Al Evans - 2008

fantastic second pitch definately the harder of the to. very hard to place wires had no big cams.
lee richards - Lead O/S - 2008 with robbo84

Will1 - 2008

First pitch only on the way to Foil.
kingholmesy - Lead O/S - 2008 with Sarah

Hidden - AltLd - 2008

Stone Muppet - 2008

peter myers - AltLd O/S - 2008 with Simon Bennet

Marcus - 2008

Rob Greenwood - UKClimbing - Lead O/S - 2008 with Claire Tetley

Mark D - AltLd O/S - 20/Oct/07 with Sazzle

@ndyM@rsh@ll - AltLd O/S - 20/Oct/07 with Sophie Wilmes

Hidden - Lead - 20/Oct/07

Lead 2nd pitch.
sazzle86 - AltLd O/S - 13/Oct/07 with Mark Duggan

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Oct/07

drewish - Lead O/S - Oct/07 with Peter Hooker

Hidden - Lead O/S - Oct/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Sep/07

Carly - AltLd O/S - 18/Sep/07 with sophie

Hjort - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/07 with Jam Mortimer

jambomotamops - AltLd O/S - 09/Sep/07 with Toby Vye

The Bad Cough - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/07 with John Nesbitt

Dale - AltLd O/S - Sep/07 with johny

Good route. I led both pitches, meeting with rather too much gorse bush on the first and then an alarming run out on the second. Quite exciting.
adamscottthomas - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/07 with Ellen Taylor and Mike Kean

Steep first section with foliage near top. 2nd pitch crack felt harder than 4b. No need to get into the crack.
ellentaylor - 2nd O/S - 28/Aug/07 with Adam Thomas

intersection996 - AltLd - 27/Aug/07 with Tim

Led 1st pitch
PanzerHanzler - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/07 with Guy

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Aug/07

John HW - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/07 with Cath

Hidden - Aug/07

mje1398 - AltLd - 10/Jun/07 with John M

Barry D - AltLd - 09/Jun/07 with Chris M

Hidden - Lead - 09/Jun/07

Great climb. I led the second pitch. Quite hard second pitch due to sparse protection and at times having to place wires blind.
nigel pearson - AltLd O/S - 26/May/07 with Robin

Wow, scary corner... Succeeded in not having any protection up the entire corner, was quite relieved to finish (and had to have a little sit down) Excellent fun :-)
The_Boy_ODwyer - AltLd - 26/May/07 with Tom C

I did 2nd pitch, Andy did 1st.
Paddy_The_Fascist - AltLd O/S - 29/Apr/07 with Andy Morris

Xav - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/07 with Chris Phillips

Toby Dunn - 2nd - 26/Apr/07 with Ruth

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Apr/07

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Apr/07

dave o - AltLd O/S - 16/Apr/07 with Julia H

Too many people on the belay ledge, about 3 routes converge.. totally contrasting pitches. i got no 2 which is a fun but straight forward crack
Mattyk - AltLd O/S - 08/Apr/07 with Jamie Moss

MikeLeeds - AltLd - 08/Apr/07 with John Forrester

chris sm - AltLd O/S - 06/Apr/07 with Pippa Froggatt

AngelaC - AltLd - 02/Apr/07 with Dieter Cole

NickST - AltLd O/S - Apr/07 with Greg Grace

2nd pitch after 1st pitch of Dives
MikeDowsett - Lead - Mar/07 with Geoff Williams

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Feb/07

the juicy dangler - AltLd O/S - 06/Feb/07 with chris lycett

Hidden - Lead - 2007

windy in the pass today. Led second pitch. straightforward.
jepotherepo - Lead - 2007 with rob

timmy-ts - 2007

Hidden - AltLd - 2007

Hidden - Lead - 2007

tom.e - AltLd O/S - 04/Nov/06 with Pete

mark4344 - Lead - 29/Oct/06 with Matt Payne

Felt like HVS, protected with wires in the corner crack, which I couldn't see.
Dan 85 - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/06 with Pender

PenCox - 2nd O/S - 15/Oct/06 with Dan

Bit boring - but perhaps this is because I could protect it well with cams...
My Gravity - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/06 with Patrick H

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/06

Hidden - Lead - 20/Aug/06

Nicos - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/06 with rich howels

kp64zl - AltLd - Aug/06 with Philip S

kjbix - AltLd - 06/Jul/06 with Richard Beech

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/06

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Jun/06

crossdressingrodney - AltLd O/S - 30/May/06 with sophie whyte

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Apr/06

Brown - AltLd O/S - 15/Apr/06 with Ralph

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/06

Wet and very slippy. Not the conditions for VS.
davidgent - Lead O/S - Jan/06 with Uha

mattyork2 - Lead O/S - Jan/06 with ben

dan gibson - 2006

jim robertson - 2006

Hidden - 2006

Jon_Warner - 2nd O/S - 2006 with Dave Pattinson

Bry - AltLd - 2006

Hidden - 2006

mikelaing - 2006

arin78 - 2nd - 2006 with Mark

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2006

with john sellers
spoony84 - AltLd O/S - 2006 - AltLd - 2006

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Nov/05

alaan - Lead O/S - Nov/05 with Chris

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/05

david morse - 2nd - Oct/05 with chris todd

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Sep/05

Ben Griffiths - 2nd β - Sep/05

Adam Booth - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/05 with Ed Booth

Ed Booth - AltLd - 22/Aug/05 with Adam Booth

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Aug/05

One of the hardest VS 4c's I've ever done! Been told aafterwards that it's eaasier wiith one boot and one sticky lol.
GScot38 - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/05

maybe_si - Lead O/S - Aug/05

My Gravity - AltLd O/S - 02/Jul/05 with Rick

Tom Last - AltLd - Jul/05 with Clive

Chesh - Lead - 27/Jun/05 with Lawrence

Derek Ryden - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/05 with Matt Gordon

mikeyjbs - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/05

Gman - AltLd O/S - May/05 with Steve

Awesome route, great line, great climbing, but pretty scar yfor VS! Second pitch is definitely the crux despite what the PW guide says...
Si dH - AltLd O/S - 02/Apr/05 with Alison Ingleby

kato'sdad - AltLd - 30/Mar/05 with Rob Simpson

RobSimmo - AltLd O/S - 30/Mar/05 with Jon Berry

Can get busy on the belay shared with spiral stairs
Shaw Brown - AltLd O/S - 2005 with David Jones

centurion05 - Lead O/S - 2005 with andy haigh

a_radiohead_fan - 2005

Christian Beck - AltLd O/S - 2005

Rob84 - Lead dog - Oct/04 with Alex

A Crook - AltLd O/S - 19/Aug/04 with Dom Stockton

Haglington - Lead O/S - Aug/04 with Crystal Compton

joe c ook - Lead O/S - Jul/04

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/04

IanD353 - Lead O/S - Jun/04 with Ailsa

SteveM - AltLd - 15/May/04 with Roger

Hidden - AltLd - 13/May/04

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/May/04

Bella - Lead O/S - 01/May/04 with Andreas

Richard Horn - AltLd O/S - May/04

Rob84 - Lead β - 2004 with Alex Triffin

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Aug/03

samwelli - AltLd O/S - 19/Jul/03 with Steve Hobbs

Ended up on the second pitch of Sabre Cut, after a navigational error looking for Better Things.
jimshrimp - Lead - 23/Jun/03

James B - 21/Jun/03 with Phil

BIgYeti86 - Lead - Jun/03

Ian led first pitch, I led second. Both felt like 4c
Chris the Tall - AltLd - May/03 with Ian Fones

DavidR - AltLd O/S - 05/Apr/03 with John Marston

hangon - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/03 with Sandy

Urgles - AltLd O/S - Apr/03 with Mick B

keith leonard - 2003

Hidden - AltLd - 2003

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2003

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Sep/02

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Sep/02

Hidden - Lead - 11/Sep/02

PenJD - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/02 with Jon Ascroft

Different Steve - Lead rpt - Jun/02 with Cathy Tye

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2002

John Roe - AltLd - 10/Aug/01 with Tim Sugars

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/01

Hidden - Lead - 30/Jun/01

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2001

Hidden - Lead - 2001

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2001

MoWalker3 - AltLd - 01/Jan/00

Paul Boardman - AltLd O/S - 2000 with Iain Boardman

Hidden - 2000

pigeonjim - Lead O/S - 2000

Ed Booth - Lead O/S - 2000

marcoleptic - Lead - 2000 with Stuey

VPJB - 2000

Duncan I - AltLd - Jul/99 with Si Coles

gonggashan - Jun/99

Dave Musgrove Jnr - AltLd - 01/May/99 with Sam Dew

2nd pitch lead on PyB course, 1st lead in 2004.
Andrew Barker - Lead - 1999

belay bunny turned bad - Lead - 1999

Hammy - AltLd - 22/Sep/98 with Nick Banks

Lead 1st pitch.
Paul-Michael - AltLd O/S - 19/Sep/98 with David Jupp

Hidden - Lead - Sep/98

Hidden - Lead - Jul/98

Hidden - 1998

Ched - Lead O/S - 1998 with Glanfor

WB - Lead O/S - 1998

John Pickles - AltLd O/S - 19/May/97

smudge - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/96 with Alex

Russell Lovett - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/96 with andrew haigh

buxtoncoffeelover - 2nd - 07/Jul/96

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/96

five - AltLd O/S - Jun/96 with TW

Hidden - AltLd - May/96

Tim Bateman - AltLd - 10/Mar/96 with Rob Smith

Julian Wedd - Lead - 1996 with I. Raynor

NeilGriffiths - Lead - 1996

Finished up Better Things.
Rog Wilko - AltLd - Aug/95 with Debbie Wilkinson

Hidden - Lead - 19/Jul/95

BenTiffin - 2nd - Jan/95 with Andy Bissell

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 1995

Hidden - 1995

switch - AltLd O/S - 1995

Tom Vivian - Lead - 15/Aug/94

James Moyle - 2nd O/S - Aug/94

jamiev - Solo O/S - 30/Jun/94 with ruth snape

colin milton - AltLd - 16/Jun/94 with eric milton

Hidden - AltLd - 1994

nai - 2nd - 02/Sep/93 with Roger Devy

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 18/Aug/93 with Alice Henderson

IanGilbertJones - 2nd O/S - 01/Aug/93

John Simpson - 2nd O/S - Aug/93 with Ian Roberts

Marti999 - Lead - 1993

Pete_Frost - AltLd O/S - 1993

My first VS!
Just Another Dave - Lead O/S - 1993 with Jo Bertalot

Top pitch is superb
ellie macpherson - AltLd - Jun/92 with Lawrence Jarvis

Hidden - AltLd - Sep/91

Led pitch 2, gear? What gear?
Iain Thow - AltLd - 14/Aug/91 with Rob Ivens

Hidden - Lead - 02/May/91

Hidden - Lead - Apr/91

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Jun/90

whispering nic - Apr/90 with Sammy PYB

ChrisJD - Lead - 17/Mar/90

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1990

Hidden - Lead - 1990

Tom V - 1990

Hidden - 1990

andy gittins - 1990

Steve Lenartowicz - 1990

Hidden - 1990

Hidden - AltLd - 1990

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1990

scary no gear placed in the whole of the second pitch.
OMSKB - Lead - Aug/89 with John Roberts

Hidden - Lead - Aug/89

babymoac - AltLd - 29/Jul/89 with Rob A & Mark

phardman - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/89

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - 1989 with Jean Williamson, Bill Williamson

PaulHermes - 1989

rob.grafton - 1989 with Bruce Perry, barry maybank

Hidden - AltLd - 29/Oct/88

Hidden - Oct/88

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/May/88

Paul Figg - Lead - Mar/88

robyn1 - 1988

AndyB123 - Lead dnf - Aug/87

Hidden - Lead - 05/Jul/87

hazeysunshine - Lead - 25/May/87 with Jane

Hidden - AltLd O/S - May/87

BigHairyIan - 2nd O/S - 31/Mar/87 with Guy Summers

GuySummers - Lead - 31/Mar/87 with bighairyian

John Brayshaw - 2nd rpt - 1987 with Andy Farley

davemhart - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/86

Backinthegame - Lead O/S - Aug/86 with Stephen hughes, Gary Hughes

Gary Coggon - Lead O/S - Jun/86 with Pete Leeming

led 1st pitch
michael burrows - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/86 with ian nettleton

Steve Crowe - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/85 with Bob Bennett

John HW - Lead - Aug/85

Steve Bell - 1985

Ian Clare - 1985

found it easy
JamieAyres - Lead O/S - Aug/84 with Gareth Williams

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/84

Ian Jones - Lead O/S - Jul/83 with Geraldine Taylor

Hidden - 1983

Hidden - 1983

Hidden - Solo rpt - Sep/82

Nic Robinson - 1982

Robmwatt - Lead - 1982

John Brayshaw - 2nd O/S - 01/Jul/81 with Plas-y-Brenin

AlanLittle - Lead - 1981

Nigel Coe - 05/May/80 with Steve Portnoi

GordonHart - Lead - 1980

robinsi197 - 1980 with Barbara

Chris Craggs - 1980

Hidden - Lead - 1980

Hidden - Lead - 1980

Norman_P_W - 1980

mikej - Lead - 22/May/79 with Tony Waite

rogerskews - AltLd - 1979 with Martin Coward

Hidden - Lead O/S - Oct/78

Hidden - Lead - Sep/78

Hammy - AltLd - 27/May/78 with Jonathon Stacey

Hidden - Lead - Apr/78

Hidden - Lead - 1978

Hidden - AltLd - 1978

Brian Wilderspin - AltLd - Oct/77 with Sean Curtis

jmr - AltLd - 14/Jul/77 with Nigel (from Horsham)

Mike Owen - 04/Jul/77

In the rain, in Super RDs and with big sacs. Part of a 'round trip' started because of poor morning weather in the Pass. Ended up doing Dolerite Dump, Slow Ledge, Reade's Route, Snowdon summit, Spiral Stairs, Dives, and Sabre Cut.
Falko - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/77 with Al W.

Nigel Bond - Lead - 05/Mar/77 with Tony Cuddy, Dave

steve L - 1977

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/76

Mark Kemball - Lead - 19/Oct/75 with Paul Clark

Bolt Phobia - AltLd - 18/May/75 with John Broadwell

Had to talk a very nervous second up the 2nd pitch step by step, one move at a time. Her first time climbing!
Sean Kelly - Lead - 1974 with Gavin Anderson

Andy Say - Lead - 1973

rockofades - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/70 with LB

greenbuoy - 2nd - 11/Aug/70 with Terry Taylor

granitbahn - Lead - 1970

tapley - AltLd - 29/Sep/69 with Dave Hearnshaw

Sean Kelly - AltLd - 1969 with Dick Curtis & Paul Chapman

Dave Musgrove - AltLd - 15/Sep/68 with Bob Knapton

Gordon Stainforth - AltLd - 12/Aug/68 with John Stainforth

Hidden - Lead - 16/Sep/67

Hidden - AltLd - 16/Jul/66

mikej - AltLd - 19/Jun/66 with Mike Byles

Used engineering nuts on line as protection - I think for the first time. Previously had used spliced slings which could be threaded or placed over spikes.
uphillnow - Lead - 1962

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