Bold and Dangerous. On first pitch (10 meters up with no runners) entire ledge I was standing on collapsed away. Just about managed to cling on. Terrifying. A few minutes later, a second ledge in the corner cracked and detached from the wall but thankful didnt break off (will do shortly). Extremely friable rock. Not to mention the huge death block wobbling directly over the 2nd belay. The route had several 10 meter run outs over manky pegs. Fully worth VS. I'd pity the HS leader who found themselves on this. A serious route.Kemics - Lead O/S - 09/Mar/14 with Mel
Felt a bit trippy on the wet rock that plastered this route. Maybe better in the summer!
Ian JL - Lead O/S - 16/Nov/13 with Beth Frampton
Hidden - 2nd - 16/Nov/13
first two pitches OK -though start quite slippery and initially protection sparse. went wrong way on 3rd pitch, climbed back part way, sun setting - scrambled to top across ledges to left as light failed
gregclarke - Lead dnf - 06/Oct/13 with Ygraine
An interesting expedition! led pitch 1 which seems quite bold - no gear on the traverse. Pitch 2 steep and reachy led by Duncan. The peg was fine but you need to be 5'7" or taller to clip it. I couldn't reach at all! Bill gave up on Pitch 3 and headed for the undergrowth. Scary gardening.
Babika - AltLd - 10/Aug/13 with duncan skelton, Bill Thurston
Not really worth the effort. Nasty loose blocks all over. Probably under graded - I wouldn't send an HS leader up this.
LJC - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/13 with ben.richards
ben.richards - AltLd O/S - 10/Aug/13 with Luca Celano
Cam't see how this gets a star. Very slimy and indistinct start from the Pit. 2nd pitch OK. 3rd pitch wandery amd ended belaying in a thorn bush and then bailed from a neighouring tree, not fancying the chossy exit.
iksander - 03/Aug/13
Hidden - Lead - 10/Jul/13
Lead pitches 1 & 3
neilwiltshire - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/13 with Josh Phipps
riff156 - Lead rpt - 27/Jun/13 with Jo Smith
Good climb spoilt by a scrappy and indeterminate 3rd pitch. The hidden peg on this pitch stayed hidden for me too. You'd be well advised to finish up pitch 2 of Zelda, you won't miss much.
Bobling - AltLd - 26/Jun/13 with Andy again
Fab climb. Some nice moves mid second pitch even if gear abit thin here. As forthe hidden peg on the second pitch ....well it was hidden. didnt find it. Rob took pitch 1 an 3
kiwi boy - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/13 with rob
Scary traverse on pitch 1.
Neil Henson - 2nd - 16/Jun/13 with Mo Walker
waited till 1st pitch was dry. Then found scratched arrows on 1st belay, Why? its obvious which way to go. top 'hidden' peg has gone.
MoWalker3 - 16/Jun/13 with neilH
Very hard to navigate. 3rd pitch was easy but massively run out: couldn't find the hidden peg. Got lost and bailed on this many years ago. Great to finally get to the top.
JamesColeman - AltLd - Jun/13 with Gordon
not as good as its neighbour Zelda. A bit dirty in praces with some good climbing but some bush whacking as well. Led 1st and 3rd
darren hudson - AltLd O/S - 20/May/13 with Dave Wynne jones
With a pack at the end of the day, which made it a little more challenging. Found it a bit broken and wandering, but a decent journey up the cliff
Dr Toph - Solo O/S - 02/Mar/13
Climbed as a three. I lead the first pitch. The leader went way off route to the left on the top pitch. Lots of fun with three of us cuddling together on the first belay ledge.
Shared the belay with another pair climbing Zelda (KitRabbette?). Sorry if we slowed you guys down!
dh7892 - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Matt Williams
Matt250 - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/13
ianto - 2013
Hidden - 2013
fuzzysheep01 - 2nd dog - 27/Oct/12 with Tom Codrington
tcn_2002 - Lead - 27/Oct/12
AndyCook - AltLd - 29/Sep/12
Lead second pitch
neilwiltshire - AltLd O/S - 22/Sep/12 with Nick Dedekind
V bold start long run out on the traverse. Take a wing and ya decking. Bold move onto the wall. Good peg runner. Second pitch is challenging but v good. third is interesting if you move slightly to far left. regained and found another old peg runner.
jaycloth16 - Lead rpt - 15/Sep/12 with Jan Matthews
Mike Hood - Lead - 07/Sep/12
Same grade as Zelda but felt bolder and more committing. Nice one guys
Mick Riley - 2nd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Bob thomas, Dominic
Always feels a little scary to solo this one. Especially when you break a foot hold and it goes flying off!
Chris Sansum - Solo rpt - 10/Aug/12
Anthony Dixon - Lead - 25/Jul/12
Difficult for the grade. 1st pitch is very awkward. 2nd and 3rd are better.
pryan300 - AltLd - 15/Jul/12 with T-Bone
demarcation86 - AltLd - 15/Jul/12 with Paul
Led pitches 1&3. Large block on p3 almost came out.
AndyMcCoy - AltLd - 31/May/12 with Tony Raphael, Rosy
No soft touch for HS 4b. There is a large loose block on the second pitch that would once have been a brilliant jug, but is now a dangerous distraction.
RosyR - 2nd - 31/May/12 with Andy McC, Tony R
John led p1 and p3.pitch 1 was a little interesting,p2 was exposed and very little gear:hard for the grade i felt.pitch 3 was shite.all in all it was only the multipitch experience that made it worth while as the climbing was some what lacking!Zelda is far nicer from memory and easier!
jon_gill1 - AltLd O/S - 27/May/12 with john beardmore
Me: 1st and 3rd pitchs. Jon: 2nd pitch. The first pitch is very bold (for the grade) off the ground to the first gear. I was very happy that I was not just an HS leader on this.
JWB - AltLd O/S - 27/May/12 with Jon Gill
Hidden - AltLd - 22/May/12
Led P1 and 2, Chris led P3. Bold start.
Will Gordon - AltLd O/S - 22/May/12 with Chris Jose
matjam - Lead - 20/May/12
lead 1 and 3
Hannahjscott - AltLd - 16/May/12 with Will Rees
Lead second pitch, seconded first and third. Dropped a set of nuts on Hannah when placing my first piece on the second pitch after they magicly became detached, impressively she caught them and I went back down and got them. I also got very lost on the second pitch but eventually managed to find the shared belay point. Whilst at the belay stance a Chinook flew below us down the valley.
WillRees - AltLd O/S - 16/May/12 with Hannah Scott
Dave p1&3, me p2, Great climb, Nothing technically outragious for 4b, but that start is still well scary.
Note - there id a huge block on p2 that isn't long for this world, nor will be anyone beneath it.
PaulWatson - AltLd rpt - 13/May/12 with Dave P
Led the last pitch - first pitch a bit dirty - second pitch has some interesting moves including a lovely wide move right onto a ledge. Beautiful day and an enjoyable climb.
Mistee - AltLd O/S - 29/Mar/12 with Phil
Hooked up P1 and P2, awesome rope drag and sparse gear are a spicy mix.
98%monkey - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/12 with Nicki
thomb - Lead - 25/Mar/12 with Jess
igneouscarl - 2nd - 24/Mar/12
Richard Morgan - AltLd - 15/Mar/12 with Toby Kluth
Long climb, in perfect spring sunshine. Bold start I thought, and none of it easy. Sam had to carry the sack, poor lad - good alpine training. (That was my story anyway.)
Rob Exile Ward - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/12 with Sam Ward
Ybot Htulk - AltLd - Mar/12 with Richard
Kyuzo - Feb/12
Neil Stansbie - AltLd - 2012
timtimpeggy - 2012
Hidden - Lead - 22/Oct/11
Definitely a 2** climb. The holds are mostly positive and seem to appear from nowhere at times. If the very popular Zelda is using the belay station, there's a very solid tree adjacent.
Voltemands - AltLd O/S - 22/Oct/11 with Carlene HIll
very slimy at bottom but good climbing higher up
manwithacam - AltLd - 11/Sep/11 with mike burnett
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Sep/11
First pitch is very bold, with the gear flake apparently missing. Second pitch is worthwhile though. Not really worth a star.
crossdressingrodney - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/11 with Andy B
Me P1, Andy P2, cocked up last pitch going up left through a jungle.
KDW - AltLd dnf - 02/Jul/11 with Andy
Led P1 & 3. First pitch felt horrible and I seemed to have great difficulty clipping the bolt at the top of corner for some reason. P2 was much better. Felt high in the grade.
Big Lee - AltLd O/S - 22/May/11 with Helen B
bonelessivar - AltLd O/S - 14/May/11
Magsy - Lead - 09/May/11
Chris Sansum - Solo rpt - 22/Apr/11
davidgc - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/11
Chris Sansum - Lead rpt - 02/Apr/11 with Thom Myers
Start was greasy and wet.. and largely unprotected.. the rest was run out.
dunky - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/11
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Apr/11
took 1st and 3rd pitches. Great 1st belay stance, sit in the sun and enjoy. Climb was ok
darren hudson - AltLd O/S - 19/Mar/11 with David Ford
John was really struggling, so I abbed off after the first pitch.
Caspar - Lead dnf - 04/Mar/11 with John Willson
mrfeebus - 2011
Hidden - 2011
fletch73 - 2011
Danny Bags - 2011
Hidden - 2nd dog - 16/Oct/10
sbc - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/10 with Dunx
Dunx - AltLd - 01/Sep/10 with Shell
scoot - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/10 with Becky Athay
Tough Climb!! Karl did 1st I tried 2nd and then wimped out so Karl manned up and did it. I did 3rd, went horribly off route, found a loose block above rubbish gear. Finally gratefully got to the top. Would say top of the grade (or maybe on an off day)
chubbyclimber - AltLd - 28/Jun/10 with Albino
I led 1st and 2nd pitch due to Tim being a big girl on the second pitch. He then got lost on 3rd pitch. Awesome climb but a bit spaced on gear in places..
Albino - AltLd - 28/Jun/10 with Tim Simpkins
I led 2nd pitch
Jacob Ram - AltLd O/S - 20/Jun/10 with Sean Mercer
Hidden - AltLd - 20/Jun/10
quite an adventure
j4kub - Lead - 20/Jun/10 with claire gibson
Bombed it up - just a quick climb to exit the crag. Chris P1 & 2 (linked), Gary P3
Chris Sansum - AltLd rpt - 05/Jun/10 with Gary Lewin
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/May/10
James_86 - AltLd rpt - 20/May/10 with James
Jon Pilling - Lead O/S - 12/May/10 with Jason Balman
ezclimber - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/10 with sean egglestone
3 Names - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/10 with Sumee Holloway
Great route awesome adventure and worth doing
Led pitches 2 and 3
Quarryboy - AltLd O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Dave Elder
Fantastic Climb, fair for the grade. good protection... great route...
richardadventurecafe - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Rose Boyce
Seconding multi pitch with rich leading, very exposed on P2, great climb.
matt_read - 2nd O/S - 11/Apr/10
Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/10
Fatclimber - Lead β - 13/Mar/10 with Steve Hodden
Phil PBC - 2010
Andy Kuszyk - Lead O/S - 2010
Fred_Richard - Lead - 2010
Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/09
katherinesydney - 2nd dog - 13/Sep/09 with andy wylie
Twisty - AltLd O/S - 11/Sep/09 with Nigel Stock
Thought i was directed to Zelda, but ended up on here (should always check the guidebook!)
Chris tried the first pitch first and took a lob onto a peanut2 from standing above it.... caught him just before he decked though! I led all 20 mins later
ebunick - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/09 with Chris C
Dave89 - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/09 with jonny
led 1&2. Used a 00 nut to protect start. Excellent route with some nice moves, quite high in the grade
PaulWatson - AltLd O/S - 13/Aug/09 with Mark
Fatclimber - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/09 with London Meet up Group
LeahJamie - 2nd - 09/Aug/09 with London Meet Up Group
ckms - Lead dnf - Aug/09 with Nick Warren
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Jul/09
James_86 - 2nd O/S - 25/Jun/09 with Dez
Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/09
Lead 2nd pitch. First pitch was a bit knarly, not much gear and even the 2nd climber isn't protected until the tree lined ledge. 2nd pitch had a few run outs but nothing too scary and with some good balancy moves. 3rd pitch, back to the long run outs but better nearer the top.
the rec - AltLd O/S - 25/Jun/09 with Darrell
Led P1 & P3. A bit run out in places. Lovely climbing though (apart from the start which is essentially a solo until the trees).
Dax - Lead - 25/Jun/09 with Ward
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/09
climbingxcat - 2nd O/S - 23/May/09 with Alex and Rob
Removed the large flake on pitch 1 (which used to provide main holds and gear). It was already wobbling when I got there, and rather difficult to get past without using it! TW, on second, pushed it off with the lightest of touches.
five - Lead O/S - 02/May/09 with TW
Rob84 - AltLd O/S - 26/Apr/09 with Lucy Rouse
Chris Sansum - Lead rpt - 26/Apr/09 with Paola
paola - 2nd - 26/Apr/09 with Chris Sansum
Hidden - AltLd - 19/Apr/09
Slick - AltLd - 19/Apr/09 with Isabel Evans
MD - Lead - 05/Apr/09 with Purple Roni
I don't remember doing 20ft run-outs above gear, clipping pegs and pulling up on finger holds on severes in the past!
Gezzer - AltLd O/S - 20/Mar/09 with Nick Ellaway
giles eperon - 01/Feb/09
Led last pitch in the dark, got a little run out off route, was good to finish!
tbs105 - AltLd O/S - 29/Nov/08 with Tiff
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Nov/08
TiffTiff - AltLd O/S - 29/Nov/08
1st pitch wet and greasy, 2nd brilliant, 3rd pitch, seemed to be a loose flake near the top so take care!
SamStokes - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/08 with Emily Stokes
emilyj - 2nd O/S - 19/Sep/08 with Samuel Stokes
lost final pitch in dark, Lead pitch 2
Jonathan Storey - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/08 with Gordon
Tougher than you would think, particularly second pitch.
Karlos - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/08 with Rik
Also with Steve (Ali's mate)
Sam W - AltLd - 04/Aug/08 with Ali Williams
Hidden - AltLd - Aug/08
Adrian led the hard pitch (pitch 1), and pitch 3. Rest of the route wasn't nearly as scary as the start!
Chris Sansum - AltLd O/S - 18/May/08 with Adrian Lowe
existing debt - 2nd - 27/Feb/08 with Iain a
mike kann - 2008
deano - 2008
Somewhat lacking in gear and an exposed feel.
localboy - 2nd O/S - 05/Jun/07 with Simon C
Middle pitch felt exposed.
leigh - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/07 with Ed
Hidden - 2nd - 02/Jun/07
Three pitch climb - Darren leading, and me tailing behind. Nothing TOOO horrendous, but standing on tiny ledge belaying Darren up ahead... I enjoyed the sunset..but then decided I'd better turn back and face the rock...too long on small ledge a long way up made me nervous.
Climb took a fair while... and we ended it as darkness fell! Thankfully nothing else fell.
philkerswell - 2nd β - 01/May/07 with darren, daryl and sarah
First multipitch, didn't expect to lead it as only done VDiff before, awesome route
Mark Walter - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/07 with Jon Bleiker
Sarah Bough - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/07 with Adam Gayton, Shukri Mohammed
Hidden - 2nd - 15/Apr/07
TimPerkin - AltLd O/S - 01/Apr/07 with Dave Gale
simonf - Lead O/S - 2007
Wrong way on second pitch. Went off right and onto a loose flake and then up on a big stack o shit (I think), Lost a No. 4 wallnut, i think.
Circus - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/06 with Brad Tonks
Bristoldave - AltLd O/S - Sep/06 with Nic Shannon
Nigel Coe - TR - Aug/06
Retreated after second pitch due to rain
dpmUK - Lead dnf - 29/Jul/06 with Mark Tomlinson
Messed up the first slab, climbed too high, instead of following the line that leads to the horizontal break. Climbers at the start of Zelda (to the right of Greta) helped bail me out with gratefully received sling... Started again and this time did right.
fish-ahh - AltLd - 26/Jul/06 with Pauline (SWMC)
Switched to Zelda for final pitch
Ing - 2nd - 15/Jul/06 with Jim
Hidden - Lead - 15/Jul/06
maybe_si - AltLd O/S - 07/Jul/06 with jez
Jez - AltLd O/S - 06/Jul/06 with Maybe_Si
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Jun/06
simonw1 - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/06 with Allan Watson
Jason Gotel - Lead - Apr/06 with Simon Gotel
AngelaC - AltLd - 27/Mar/06 with Dieter Cole
Nigel R Lewis - Lead - 2006
markfromstoke - 2006
Hidden - AltLd - Sep/05
Hidden - AltLd - 15/Jul/05
Nigel Coe - Lead - 15/May/05 with Dave Clilverd
Clarky10 - 11/Sep/04 with Sam Stokes
Hidden - AltLd - Aug/04
Darrell Read - AltLd - 15/May/04
Dave Latimer - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/04
Couldn't find route. Clipped peg and lowered off. A very bad route to advise an inexperienced climber to navigate whilst you go and climb the lovely Zelda next to it! Must return and figure it out.
JamesColeman - Lead dnf - 2004 with Alan
timharrison - AltLd O/S - Aug/03 with Abi Marchent
Hidden - Lead - 06/Jul/03
jmr - AltLd - 19/May/03 with Bob Howard
Piers Harley - Lead dnf - Apr/03 with Graham Hewing-Powell
PWEI_fan - 2003
markysums - Lead - 2003
simon kimber - Lead O/S - 2002 with Giles Cranston
CurlyStevo - Lead - 2001
jim_randell - AltLd rpt - 26/Aug/00 with PS
Simon Caldwell - AltLd O/S - Apr/00 with Mike
Hidden - Lead - 2000
and Geraint Lewis. Lead pitches 1,3.
Laramadness - AltLd O/S - 19/Aug/99 with JC
Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/99
jim_randell - Lead rpt - 09/Jul/99 with DG
Boxy - AltLd O/S - 07/Jul/99 with Jon H
gripped01 - AltLd - Jul/99 with Spider
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/May/99
I led the first and last pitches.
Rob Oram - AltLd O/S - 03/May/99 with Tom Asbridge & John Hardy
kitkat78 - AltLd - May/99 with Hester C
Hidden - AltLd - 26/Oct/97
jim_randell - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/95 with WW
JohnHutch - Lead - 28/Jun/93 with DH
AndySL - AltLd O/S - 1993 with Mark
mikej - AltLd - 29/Aug/92 with Nick Salmon
tomkhoward - AltLd O/S - 1991 with Linus Liew
ferret newman - Lead - 15/Jun/90 with The Blacks Camping Crew (Reading) , 1989-1991
Phil led 1, Steve 2, I 2nd 1 in damp, 2 in downpour (pull on peg), lead 3 in more rain
Iain Thow - AltLd - 15/Apr/88 with Steve Ball, Phil Moorey
Guy - Lead O/S - 1987
JamieAyres - Lead O/S - May/86 with Jude Ayres
sadams - AltLd - 05/Nov/83 with Steve Newman
leland stamper - Lead - 1983 with hugh rawson
Steve Woollard - Lead - 1980
Tim Sparrow - 1979 with Richard Brooke