Touch the Fire** E2 5c
[Touch the Fire, 3 kb]Start 4m right of the drop to the Green Meanie area. Boulder bravely up the lower wall on concretions to the first in situ thread. Continue to the second thread, then make tricky and mildly bold moves to gain better holds and gear at the point where the angle eases. Continue with care, trending left, up the easier but slightly dubious cracked wall.

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This climb is in 238 logbooks, and on 13 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Oct/15

Cheese Monkey - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/15 with Ric E

jungle - 2nd - 05/Sep/15 with Rob Smart, Paul Mcarthy

Second attempt at this. I got to within about 2 inches of the hold by the first thread when I came off. Nasty landing, hurt my back. Don't think I'll be coming back to try it again.
Andrew Sloan - Lead dnf - 29/Aug/15 with Tony Holdsworth

Not quite strong enough to commit to finishing the boulder problem start.Backed off just below the 1st thread. One to come back to.
Andrew Sloan - Lead dnf - 07/Aug/15 with ben

A few false starts before going for it.
bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 02/Aug/15 with Clare

tobydunford - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/15 with Kirsty Kerr

Brilliant - first thread can be backed up in the right. Slightly bold climbing past the second thread to good small gear and a pull up into the grove. A good one for a first time E2 - just don't fall off going up to the first thread!
kenneM - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/15

sheelba - 2nd - 21/Jun/15 with Mike

After leading Last Call and heading across to lower off. Lovely route. Would love to lead it one day.
alaster tonge - TR O/S - 14/Jun/15

stevoland - Lead O/S - 28/May/15

The quality climbing is short and sweet. Great crimpy moves up to the first gear at a few meters up. Good footwork is needed to avoid peeling off. I used the high-friction undercut/sidepull and stretched for my left-hand, but there are more secure ways of doing it! After the first thread things ease off to E1/HVS climbing for the rest of the route and is pretty enjoyable. Good gear and easy moves. ***
jsmcfarland - Lead O/S - 28/May/15 with Steve

hutchay - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/15 with Dave Clover

loved this route - i was gripped!!!!!
RichyBOYY - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/15 with Ben M

Benzo - 2nd O/S - 06/Apr/15 with Ric

Ed morris - Lead O/S - 05/Nov/14 with Henry

grp - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/14

Hidden - 2nd β - 12/Oct/14

Great route, hard crimpy moves with marginal feet to start..the crux reach to the concretion by the first thread is tough for the short!
shaunstar9 - 2nd O/S - 13/Sep/14 with Kev

One slight slip up with the clip.
simon1965 - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/14 with dom

cem - Lead O/S - 16/Aug/14 with EeFu Thong

I'm 6ft 4 and despite being knackered from climbing two days on the go I still insist that the start just feels ridiculously reachy and somewhat dangerous.
Quarryboy - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/14 with Andy G, James Rich, Rob Stanfield

Ricky Rocks - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/14 with Nath Kitcher

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/14

Mattyk - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/14 with Wilky, Ali K, Jamie Moss

one I've always wanted to have a go at in the Wye Valley! Scary stretch lower down!
Stanners - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/14 with Alex Rhodes

richiebongo - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/14 with Jon Didymus

Hidden - TR O/S - 22/Jun/14

Bouldery first section. E2 for the landing - you wouldn't want to fall off. Good climbing throughout.
julesmckim - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/14 with Rob Smart

tskelhon - Lead β - 17/May/14 with Charlotte

clmacdonald - 2nd - 17/May/14 with tskelhon

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/14

Phil PBC - 18/Apr/14 with Josh baldwin

The difficulties on this are bouldery and short lived so not really my style. A fierce start on some less than generous holds, didn't feel like a soft touch.
MD - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/14 with Jo

Terrifying start for the short.
Happy Wanderer - 2nd dog - 13/Apr/14 with Mike D

First E2!
Ash Sayers - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead dog - 29/Mar/14

jon_gill1 - 2nd O/S - 22/Mar/14 with chris Lyness

One move wonder. Felt easy
Tomar - Lead O/S - 16/Nov/13 with Chris Scutt

Dan Hostford - Lead dog - 22/Sep/13 with George Hostford

great techy and strenuous start
tomhull - 2nd β - 04/Sep/13 with Stephen Cumberland

Lead after looking at from the abseil off Motion Pictures. Long, tough stretch to the first good holds. More gear, second thread and then a big weird move to the ledge. Cool route. Not soft E2 in my opinion.
James Oswald - Lead - 27/Aug/13

panda70 - 2nd dog - 27/Aug/13 with James Oswald

LucasHarazin - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/13

bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 10/Aug/13 with Helen

Kevster - Lead rpt - 21/Jul/13 with P Ecton

duzinga - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Omer

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/13

Hard start - excellent lead by Jim. Once to the first thread it eases, though some intricate and technical climbing still awaits before safety. Would like to lead - finger strength and endurance on crimps would be the key though!
andyjirvin - 2nd β - 13/Jul/13

Grabbed the first thread rather than the hold, otherwise clean. Holds slick and insecure in the heat made this feel hard today.
bpmclimb - Lead dog - 07/Jul/13 with Ben Crook, Greg Clarke, Clare

gregclarke - 2nd - 07/Jul/13 with Brian

Bold start. Comparable difficulty to the crux on Moving Pictures, but without gear, so if we're being consistent about grades it should definitely be E2.
Nick Russell - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/13 with Alastair Begley

fell and touched the ground on rope stretch, then climbed ground up
alastairbegley - 2nd - 24/Jun/13 with Nick Russell

Anthony Dixon - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/13 with Caleb

Watched Ant and even took his gear selection (plus a few extra pieces) E1 5c if the threads are good. Ant looked very solid so thought it was going to be a little easier with my reach...wasnt! Crux was clipping the first thread.
Kemics - Lead β - 23/Jun/13 with Anthony

bluesharper - Lead O/S - 12/May/13 with Richard

E2? Really? very similar in style to desperation at stanage, except that is harder! E1 5c
Dean177 - Lead O/S - 04/May/13 with Alan Dibben

Dibdawg - 2nd O/S - 04/May/13 with Dean Merchant

Hidden - 2nd β - 03/May/13

bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 03/May/13 with Helen S

Took me four attempts to get the first thread clipped! Really nice climbing after that.
kelliroberts3 - Lead - 20/Apr/13 with Peter Rigby

Hidden - TR O/S - 24/Feb/13

Hidden - 2013

Ollie B - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/12 with D.Foster

Tim Sparrow - 2nd - 15/Sep/12 with Ned

Beautiful route, beautiful view. Give it a few months and I'll redpoint it
KitRabbette - 2nd O/S - 12/Sep/12

Hidden - Lead RP - 09/Sep/12

The crux at the start took a couple of tries.
Poco Loco - 2nd - 08/Sep/12 with Will Wykes

Hidden - 2nd dog - 26/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/12

I read somewhere about a broken thread or concretion but couldn't really see where from. Good route.
richardr - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/12 with Chris Wyatt

Luuuuuke - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/12 with Si

thetradlad - 2nd O/S - 09/Jun/12 with Keeno

First E2! Heart in mouth up to first thread!
Ross.Cooper - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/12 with Jake Lodge

One point of aid!
Neil D - 2nd dog - 04/Jun/12 with Jiefei Ma

Derek Ryden - Lead O/S - 26/May/12 with Andy Forbes

the one that steve kind of unexpectedly beasted
missxandrabee - 2nd dog - 30/Mar/12 with Steve

Moves up to the first bit of tat are the hardest and scariest (no gear and awful landing)
stevorobs3 - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/12 with Xandra

Stressful start
ian d f - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/12 with Helen B

Goose4 - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/12 with Tom Adams

RossT - 2nd - 24/Mar/12

Awesome route, thoroughly enjoyed it, things ease slightly after the first in-situ thread, but all in all a really good route.
Kyle Rance - Lead O/S - 15/Jan/12 with Ollie Hoffman

Hidden - 2nd β - 15/Jan/12

Hidden - 2012

Scotsken - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Sep/11

jonnobyrne - Lead β - 27/Jul/11

Jon Didymus - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/11 with Nick

good lower section with excellent climbing. got quite run out after the last thread, but was oiver easy ground. would not want to fall off this
stvredmond - Lead - 23/Jul/11 with Helen Norris

Awesome route. All credit to steve for leading it. Such a stretch to the first thread.
Helnorris - 23/Jul/11 with Steve Redmond

garywong - 2nd O/S - 04/Jul/11 with Gareth Hall

GarethHall - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/11 with Gary Wong

MarkRyder - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with James P

Managed to grab the rope while lunging for the concretion at first thread, otherwise really fun
jamespilgrim - 2nd RP - 02/Jul/11 with Mark

flashpanther - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/11

thomasadixon - Lead rpt - 27/Jun/11 with Mike

AlexRenshaw - Lead - 26/Jun/11 with Ted Lister

can't remember if i did this one clean - all i remember is it was getting dark and i had to get a move on.
Tom Brierley Gore - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/11 with Shijing Hu

tommytuffa - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/11 with Rich

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Jun/11

leon - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11 with Chris Munton

Hidden - Lead - 23/May/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/May/11

Hidden - TR - 28/Apr/11

Retro-flash of several year-old unfinished business.
Justin T - Lead β - 23/Apr/11 with Cherry

Hidden - Lead RP - 03/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Mar/11

Good climb. A bit of a tricky move to get the first thread, but then some good rests on large holds then another slightly tricky move to reach the jugs. Got pretty pumped.
monsteratt - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/11 with Tim, Andy Abraham

Tim Sparrow - 2nd - 12/Feb/11 with Monty, Andrew Abraham

Andrew Abraham - 2nd β - 12/Feb/11 with Tim Sparrow, Clement Attwood

Pulled on first thread.
marclloyd77 - Lead rpt - 17/Oct/10 with Simon Crisp

Fell last time I tried it, got it clean today. Pumpy!
Matt Johnson - 2nd rpt - 17/Oct/10 with Marcos31

peaches69 - 2nd rpt - 17/Oct/10

guy xavier percival - Lead β - 09/Oct/10 with luke

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Sep/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/10

simeclimb68 - Lead rpt - 11/Sep/10 with Ricahrd Millet

Dave Thompson - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10 with Ali Bahar

very hard and tough on the fingers getting off the ground
Ali.B - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead - 15/Aug/10

colkurtz - 2nd - 15/Aug/10 with Robb

this was unfinished business for super gav and now for me!!
brew_guru - 2nd O/S - 11/Aug/10 with super gav

Sam W - Lead - 08/Aug/10 with Nina Jenkinson

really liked climbing on the concreations, good bouldery start
peaches69 - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/10 with matt, sarah

Matt Johnson - 2nd dog - 05/Aug/10 with Sarah Cossar, Si Crisp

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/10

hardoreVdiffBen - 2nd O/S - 31/Jul/10 with Remus

Kevster - Lead - 25/Jul/10

Julie Carroll - Lead RP - 20/Jul/10 with Steve Rivers

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/10

dean79 - 2nd - 06/Jun/10 with alan watson

marclloyd77 - 2nd - 06/Jun/10 with Al Watson

toasted - Lead - 06/Jun/10 with Heather

Good tight rope on initial step up!
leigh - TR O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Tim

ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 09/May/10 with Misha

4th ever trad lead... Quite scary getting the first piece of tat...and then again, quite scary after having clipped into the second piece of tat...going up through the groove before getting a jug to get some dubious wires...easy climbing though!
rubben - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/10 with Marcus O'Leary

boulder problem start (where i fell off first go), then easy after first gear-loop is reached
natalietanzer - 2nd RP - 25/Apr/10 with nacnud

nacnud - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/10 with Natalie Tanzer

Hidden - 2nd - 2010

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09

dts - 2nd O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Andy Taylor

Hidden - Lead - 04/Oct/09

JPGR - Lead O/S - Oct/09

Hidden - TR O/S - 23/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Jun/09

Iain's first E2. Good effort that man..
Wilbur - 2nd O/S - 20/Jun/09 with Iain

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/09

First E2. Great fun.
catt - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/09 with Will

mattjam - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/09 with sammy d

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09

tweedcore - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/09 with Patricia Murphy

Trisha Murphy - 2nd O/S - 09/Jun/09 with tweedcore

d_meacher - 2nd O/S - 25/May/09 with Trisha Murphy

Trisha Murphy - Lead - 25/May/09 with d_meacher

Dan_Carroll - Lead O/S - 23/May/09 with Eric Herring

briar4012 - 2nd dog - 26/Apr/09 with Marti

Marti999 - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/09

thomasadixon - 2nd rpt - 16/Apr/09 with Becca

Scary first moves...
BeccaSnowden - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/09 with Tom

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09

gripped01 - Lead O/S - 2009

quiffhanger - Lead O/S - 2009

just one more - Lead O/S - 23/Oct/08 with Svenn G

got scared didn't want to hit the floor. Fell but held it pulled up again grabed the sling. dam
Dale - Lead dog - Oct/08

DafSWMC - 2nd β - 21/Sep/08 with Gareth

Shameful performance! Straightforward climbing, but was compelled to grab the thread rather than jug just above, didn't rest just clipped and carried on. Guess I was spooked by the potential landing. Rest went without a hitch although I'm too slow at placing gear, must climb more trad!
gejones - Lead dog - 21/Sep/08 with DafSWMC

bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 17/Sep/08 with Tom

thomasadixon - 2nd rpt - 17/Sep/08 with Brian

chris sm - Lead rpt - 30/Aug/08 with Pippa Froggatt

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/08

Lois - 2nd dog - 29/Jun/08 with Steve Beckwitt

Tim W - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/08 with Marina Unterfosthuber

Tim M - Lead - 06/Jun/08 with John A

thomasadixon - 2nd O/S - 24/May/08 with Bismarck

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/May/08

Mark Walter - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/08 with Crispin Cooper

Paz - Lead O/S - 23/Feb/08 with DC, TS2

Bristoldave - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/08 with Joe & Caroline

CarolineH - 2nd dog - 16/Feb/08 with Dave and Joe

daveagriff - 2nd - 2008

Stone Muppet - Lead dog - 2008

Owen W-G - Lead O/S - 17/Nov/07 with Tony Seale

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 03/Nov/07

Brian Rodgers - Lead O/S - 13/Oct/07 with Mark Hudson

Circus - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/07 with Loz

Dr Caterpillar - 2nd dog - 24/Aug/07 with Adam

Felt super strong today!
SamStokes - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/07 with Ben Matthews

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/07 with Roy Thomas

Nik did what I could not
chris wyatt - 2nd RP - 14/Jul/07 with Nik Goile

A few very crimpy moves to begin but good climb.
Morgan Woods - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/07 with Gareth

Hidden - 2nd dog - 02/Jun/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/07

Great climb, serious start
bpmclimb - Lead O/S - 03/Oct/06 with Clare

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Sep/06

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 28/Sep/06 with chris broadly

Paul Robertson - Lead rpt - 06/Aug/06 with Ben Friedland

Great little sequence at the beginning. Hardest ever moves have pulled on rock.
Redsnake - TR RP - 05/Aug/06 with DrGav

Superb moves. Too bold a lead for me!
DrGav - TR O/S - 05/Aug/06 with Wendy

Jez - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/06 with Maybe_Si

Bux - 2nd rpt - 18/Jul/06 with Harry and Sam

shoulders - Lead - 15/Oct/05 with mike shewring

Technical, but never desperate, bit bold to start.
Stefan Kruger - Lead rpt - 28/Aug/05 with Sarah Porter

Had to work the first move, fell a few times before flashing
Bux - Lead RP - Jul/05 with Will

drysori - Lead - Mar/05 with Malcolm

LC - Lead O/S - Mar/05

Straightforward crimping
philhilo - Lead O/S - 2005 with simon C

furry - Lead O/S - 16/May/04 with Phil B

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 31/Mar/04

Urgles - Lead O/S - Jan/04 with David Elder

Hidden - Lead - 16/Jun/03

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/03

Hidden - Lead - 06/Apr/03

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Jan/03

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2003

simon kimber - Lead O/S - 2003

Long draw hanging from first thread, so E1.
ericinbristol - Lead β - 2003

chris sm - TR - 04/Jun/02

DubyaJamesDubya - Jun/02

gimmer - Lead - 2001 with Andy Keron

Laramadness - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/00

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/00

mikej - TR - 01/May/00 with Bob Hassall, Nick Salmon

Roget - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/99

pezzerrr - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/99

Jim Brooke - 2nd O/S - 06/Feb/99 with Rich

liabilityliz - Lead - 28/Jun/98 with Mark Trepte

chris sm - 2nd O/S - 26/Apr/98 with Jim Hall

mikej - 2nd - 02/Jun/96 with Bill Turner

Colin Dry pre-'97
Gary Coggon - Lead O/S - 1996 with Colin Dry

3 Names - Lead O/S - 1994

With Andy Stoddard - bouldery start then steady
Backinthegame - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/93 with Andy Stoddard

Guy - Lead O/S - May/93

strapless - Lead - 30/Jun/91 with Ju

ChrisJD - Lead - 06/May/89

steve L - Lead - 24/Mar/85 with Morty, Clive Curle

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