The reason you went outside instead of staying in the Ratho wall? The beautiful twin flake cracks, a great route. Judicious use of both cracks makes it less brutal than appearances suggest.

Willie Jeffrey, Chris Craggs 1975

Ticklists: Central Belt - Local Classics.

Pete_Stewart 13/Sep 2nd dog

Seconded Eric for this. First time trying anything in the E grades, had difficulty on the crux but the rest went pretty well.

ErikAndersen 13/Sep Lead O/S
with Peter, Joe
David Woods 30/Aug Lead O/S

Wonderful route. Watch out for the football sized loose triangular block towards the top. Needs trundling.

with Euan Maharg
Hidden 30/Aug Lead O/S
dmacmorris 30/Aug 2nd

Without a doubt a lovely route and super SUPER safe. I did fall off on the second at crux but thats because i was rushing it as time was running fast. 100% sure I could lead this if i go back.

Ewanski 20/Aug Lead
with Stuart M
wookie667 15/Aug Lead β

My friend climbed up placed some gear fell off crux so went up and finished it.

Hidden 03/Aug 2nd dog
Lamb 31/Jul Lead O/S

Brilliant line.

Hidden 22/Jul Lead
mishabruml 22/Jul Lead O/S

Nearing the top of the flake made a long step left and used the tapering finger crack (nearing the sport route) to gain the sloping ledge above- not sure if thats allowed? Even so, well chuffed to onsight this, was hanging around for ages getting very scared and considering lowering off so glad I battled through!

Hugh Simons 18/Jul Lead β

Great route. Almost blew it topping out the flake system, found the right holds though! Pretty pumpy, great gear too.

Euan Todd 18/Jul Lead RP

Dogged to the top first go, so so pumped. Got it second go, much easier. A powerful route, don't hang around for too long! Absolutely bomber gear though.

seanhendo123 05/Jul Lead rpt

Climbed yesterday with 1 fall, got it clean this morning! Great route

with Emeric
seanhendo123 04/Jul Lead dog

Came off right before the ledge, gutted! Got straight back on and got it easy enough, great route, next time.

with Emeric
weelee9985 ?/Jul Lead O/S
with David McKinney
herrettscott 24/Jun 2nd O/S

let this one go to second,

with Timmy
sophiecb 23/Jun 2nd

First time on rock since bub. Brilliant moves. Shame to have to go back indoors and climb on plastic. Thanks to Timmy for the rope :)

olekemi 17/Jun 2nd O/S
with Jeremy M, Mark G
glenngordon 26/May Lead rpt

climbing in the sun for fun!

with fran sheridan
Rollo Rolo 22/May TR RP
Ian Jones 19/May 2nd rpt

By the cheating left hand variant. Desperate.

Hidden 25/Apr Lead O/S
Dangerous Dave 22/Mar Lead β

Ogden did it first. Good route

with Dave O
dave o 22/Mar Lead O/S

Fell off the first move back into the boulders.....and fell up the last moves on the flake!

CaelanB 04/Mar Lead O/S
bmox 15/Feb 2nd O/S
Hidden 25/Oct/14 Lead β
ashtond6 25/Oct/14 Lead O/S

Truly amazing for a recently blasted quarry. Just like outer limits in yosemite, without the stamina hands at the end! Loved it

nickb1 25/Oct/14 Lead O/S
Sophie Gilbert 25/Oct/14 2nd dog
with nickb1
HaddRoots 21/Sep/14 Lead G/U
Stevie989 20/Aug/14 Lead O/S

Burly - Jug noted as loose a couple of years ago is still loose.

redjerry 20/Aug/14 2nd
with Stevie Weir
DavidMcK 09/Aug/14 Lead RP
calumhicks 09/Aug/14 Lead O/S
with Adam Harris
sikcby 05/Aug/14 Lead O/S
Brian Pollock 26/Jul/14 Lead O/S

interesting climbing, felt fairly tough in the heat

with Gordon, Stewart
JamieSparkes 17/Jul/14 Lead rpt

Nice to do again as a warm up. Loose jug low down

Hidden 25/Jun/14 TR
AndyL 15/Jun/14 Lead O/S
with christine, seamus
salix 08/Jun/14 Lead rpt

Several years since last ascent and brief shower on the crux made this a little more exciting than I'd planned. Still fine, and great climbing.

with Frazer
warrygallace ?/Jun/14 2nd
with Ian
lostmariner 30/May/14 -
Hidden 16/May/14 Lead dog
Hidden 15/May/14 Lead
EBailey 15/May/14 2nd β
ejj 12/May/14 2nd β
ferdia 05/May/14 Lead O/S

an affirming start to the trad season. very enjoyable climbing. not too hard.

with Andy
seanhendo123 20/Apr/14 Lead dnf

Looked pretty cool so thought f**k it and gave it a go, came off at the crux(maybe) and ended up lowering off in growing darkness. . . Maybe wasnt best time try and get 1st e2. Next time

with Emeric
LHumble ??/2014 Lead dog
with Shed
lukemcphee ?/Oct/13 Lead
gjd 24/Aug/13 Lead rpt
with Sam Burns
Gabe Oliver 11/Aug/13 Lead

faaaaack! Hand in the jug at the top of the crack, foot slipped, 6m fall! Next time, next time...

gurumed 03/Aug/13 Lead rpt

Had to come back for the clean lead :)

with Mitch
gjd 27/Jul/13 Lead dnf

Fell at the crux, then lowered and seconded it. Next time...

with Mitch, Gurumed
gurumed 27/Jul/13 AltLd dog

Lead on Geoffs gear to the crux, then fell off. Finished the rest of route in one go.

with Mitch, gjd
Martin McKenna - UKC 03/Jul/13 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Jul/13 Lead dog
John McKenna 01/Jun/13 Lead O/S
Ewanski ?/Jun/13 2nd
with Cal. C
Hidden 28/May/13 TR dog
james1978 ??/2013 -
Busby ??/2013 -
jonathanfield 02/Sep/12 -
Hidden 18/Jun/12 TR dog
Sean Bell 05/May/12 2nd rpt
with Neil Carnegie
pielander 27/Mar/12 TR
with chris
dj_brigham05 15/Jan/12 2nd O/S

Brilliant......but cold

Ginger McGrath 15/Jan/12 Lead O/S
hexcentric ??/2012 -

Just a general note that the spike jug just after you pull onto the first diffucult section (used to take a good wire) is now dangerously loose, making the first section slightly harder to climb and protect. Probably needs glueing or removing.

Hidden ??/2012 -
Harry Holmes 02/Nov/11 Lead RP
with Joanna
horsefeathers 02/Nov/11 2nd O/S
with Harry
Hidden 22/Oct/11 Lead dog
freyja 22/Oct/11 2nd dog
Macleod 15/Oct/11 2nd
with dominic
freyja 25/Sep/11 TR dog
D_Wills 24/Sep/11 2nd
GraemeDiack 05/Sep/11 2nd O/S
KeithAlexander 05/Sep/11 Lead O/S
adamc 03/Sep/11 TR RP
with Guilio Lanny
simon_D 25/Aug/11 Lead

small victory!

with Fiend
cat22 09/Aug/11 2nd
with Mike
Hidden 12/Jul/11 Lead rpt
jacobjlloyd 10/Jul/11 Lead O/S

Better than it looks! FInished up Strongarm, shame the topo encourages you to scuttle off left.

with Dave Macleod, Paul Diffley, James Oswald
James Oswald 10/Jul/11 Lead O/S

Awesome. First e2 but lead on Jacob's gear, placed a few more wires for it. Felt quite confident moving above my gear. DId the awesome strongarm finish and lowered off the stake. Great arm bar rest in the crack before the crux which wasn't too hard. Was convinced that it was quarried grit!

glenngordon 24/Jun/11 Lead O/S
with iain sneddon
gjd 12/Jun/11 2nd O/S
with Sam Burns
Denpov 03/Jun/11 TR rpt
Hidden 18/May/11 2nd
Denpov 17/May/11 2nd rpt

seconded clean with Ian. My 3rd ever 2nd. :o)

jazzyjackson 14/May/11 TR rpt

top roped three times. amazing moves. not sure I could hang about and place gear yet, lead can wait.

with Ally
jameshiggins 07/May/11 Lead O/S

Reminded me of the gritstone quarries!

with Neil Adams
Neil Adams 07/May/11 2nd rpt
Hidden 02/May/11 2nd
simondunf 02/May/11 Lead O/S
with beau
mhowie 26/Apr/11 TR O/S
with Niall
Denpov 26/Apr/11 TR rpt
mastiffmat 26/Apr/11 TR

Very pumpy but excellent route. Dry hand syndrome caused a few slips but ultimately very do-able.

with Pete Kirkby
Denpov 15/Apr/11 TR RP

Toprope Self-Belay.

Denpov 12/Apr/11 TR RP

Self belay and found moves then toproped it clean. Will be back to self belay it clean soon.

Peter Rhodes 31/Mar/11 2nd rpt
Hidden 31/Mar/11 Lead O/S
Macleod 19/Mar/11 2nd O/S
salix 19/Mar/11 Lead O/S

First extreme lead. Took a while to catch up with myself.

Scottish78 ??/2011 -
MonkeyDawson ??/2011 -
MonkeyDawson 30/Oct/10 2nd rpt
with Simon Smith
Hidden 24/Oct/10 Lead
sneaks 16/Oct/10 Lead O/S
with janey
robertmichaeladams 19/Aug/10 Lead
with Leisha
Denpov 06/Aug/10 Lead dnf
Harry Holmes 29/Jul/10 Lead dnf
with Liyen
CharlieMack 23/Jul/10 Lead O/S

Retro flash, was 3rd ever trad route about 5-6 years ago. Awesome route!

Hidden 23/Jul/10 2nd O/S
Denpov 06/Jul/10 TR dog
Hidden 10/Jun/10 Lead O/S
spunkymonkey 01/Jun/10 2nd O/S

Very nice route

Dr Toph 17/May/10 Lead rpt

Always warming.

with Davide
jamiefoxen 08/May/10 Lead O/S
with bob foster
rcammack 21/Apr/10 Lead O/S
krasavenko 21/Apr/10 2nd dog

very mannly - an awesome climb

THardSevere 21/Apr/10 TR dog
JamieSparkes 10/Apr/10 Lead O/S

pretty damn sustained, excellent route.

with Chris, Claire Holland
squidgebob 10/Apr/10 2nd O/S
with Chris BL, jamie
Hidden 29/Aug/09 Lead dnf
Lawrie Brand 28/Jul/09 2nd rpt
Hidden 28/Jul/09 Lead O/S
Lawrie Brand 27/Jul/09 Lead O/S
Andy Moles 05/Jul/09 Lead O/S
with Calum
Hidden 26/Jun/09 2nd O/S
sebrider 16/May/09 Lead O/S

Looked really nice so gave it a bash and got my second onsight E2...thanks to a wee dynamic move to a thank god ledge!

stuartm555 16/May/09 2nd dnf
Hidden 14/May/09 Lead O/S
hubereini 25/Apr/09 Lead dog

had a wee rest, still chuffed :)

with mo
Chad123 24/Apr/09 AltLd rpt

Fun climbing on enormous holds, two ways to go at crux, either power up or swing left for hidden holds...

with Duncan
decs 24/Apr/09 2nd
with Chad
kevg 06/Apr/09 Lead rpt

Good route. Pumpy for placing gear, but a big friend at the back of the crack sure helps for the crux. Made a big difference having seconded it the previous w/e.

with Fraser
Neil Adams 05/Apr/09 Lead O/S

Excellent route

Hidden 05/Apr/09 2nd β
kevg 29/Mar/09 2nd O/S
with Fraser
Hidden 29/Mar/09 Lead dog
joe larner 22/Mar/09 Lead O/S

Quite an easy E2 but a brilliant climb. E2 5b perhaps more appropriate. Happy to do it, was not feeling up to much in the morning feeling ill and still aching from drunkenly falling out of a tree on Friday.

JdotP 22/Mar/09 2nd dog
with Joe Larner
Hay ??/2009 2nd dog

Pumped oot ma bracket when trying to style it out up the crux. Rested and thugged up. Psyched to lead.

with Neil Carnegie
jazzyjackson 28/Sep/08 Lead dog

great route, great gear. was psyched for the on-sight but pumped out big time at the crux and slumped on gear. Should have gone for it when I could. Another time.

with Ally
Hidden 28/Sep/08 2nd
R0bbie 16/Aug/08 Lead O/S
with Taba and kevin
K_MacLeod 16/Aug/08 2nd dnf

It looked a good climb got qauter up it and chikened out!! A little over my grade just now!

with R0bbie and Taba
simon_D 02/Jul/08 2nd RP
with Neil Silver
andymoin 06/Jun/08 Lead

Clean this time, still gutted tho. Ground up ascent.

with Sean
Sean Bell 06/Jun/08 2nd O/S

Andy led it without much of a fuss.PUmpy little number with some good moves, worthy of its stars.Wish there were more like this in the central belt..

with Andy
andymoin 05/Jun/08 Lead

Nice climbing that I had cyked up to be supper hard, it turned out to be pretty easy. Even so I didn't get it clean and had a stupid slip when I swapped feet on a good rest, gutted.

with Dave, Neil Mackenzie
Neil Mackenzie 05/Jun/08 2nd O/S
with Andy and Dave
Fultonius 02/May/08 2nd
andyinglis 02/May/08 Lead O/S
Hidden 01/May/08 Lead O/S
akhughes 03/Apr/08 2nd O/S
with Greg B
Greg Boswell ?/Apr/08 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2008 Lead O/S
Dr Toph ?/Jul/07 Lead O/S

awesome. just made it..

with Calum Clarke
Sean Bell 30/Jun/06 2nd O/S
with neil
Ice Spider ??/2006 Lead
with Rew
mgeek ??/2002 Lead O/S

great quality!

with Tony Stone
Chad123 ?/May/00 Lead O/S
with Muppet
howifeel ??/2000 Lead O/S

Easy when you get started. Reminds me of flutings in Dinorwic Slate Quarries.

with Charlie
buzby78 05/May/98 Lead
Bruce Kerr 14/May/97 Lead
with Jacob Oberhauser
Hidden ??/1997 2nd O/S
Ian Jones ?/Oct/96 2nd
with Nick Conway
buzby78 19/Jul/96 Lead
Hidden ?/Apr/96 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/1996 2nd O/S
Duncan I ??/1993 Lead dog
whispering nic ?/Oct/92 2nd
Nick Biven 29/Jul/92 Lead
Alastair R ??/1989 Lead O/S
Bruce Kerr 13/Oct/79 Lead
with Brian Dick
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