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The Eternal Optimist** E2 5b

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2 pitches. The obvious crack/corner line just right of Bezel, steep but with big holds on the left hand wall. Good route

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This climb is in 75 logbooks, and on 2 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Mar/14

well good.
rbharries - 2nd dog - 04/Mar/14 with neils EW

P1 was was lovely. Generous holds, steep with some lovely moves. Had some difficulty getting over the bulge. I lead P2, my first E2 of any description. Not technically difficult but a chossy nightmare! Gear was optimistic and every hold moved. Lead P2 clean.
leeds_belle - AltLd dog - 24/Aug/13 with Will

Really pumpy, Jon had to rest twice (warm up). Only just clean..
James Oswald - 2nd O/S - 05/Aug/13 with Jon Stewart

better than I thought it would be. There was even some good climbing on the second pitch.
WB - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Guy

Hard 1st pitch, poor 2nd pitch, best to ab off after 1st pitch
wi11 - AltLd O/S - 20/Jul/12 with Max

Rob Pitt - Lead O/S - 07/Jul/12 with Helen Pitt

Really really pumpy!!! All the gear lower down is just not as good as you would wish for...
sonnenstern - Lead dog - 02/Jun/12 with Helena

Hidden - Lead β - Jun/12

Not happy with the gear, so I backed off.
Martin Haworth - Lead dnf - 06/May/12

PaulTanton - Lead O/S - 05/May/12 with Helen Fawcett

Full fat E2.
Dave Foster - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/12 with Si 2

Hidden - Lead β - 14/Apr/12

sam820 - 2nd - 12/Apr/12 with Murdoch

Owain Llewelyn - Lead rpt - 11/Apr/12 with Doddy

First pitch is never the stated 37m in the select guide, sandbagged myself into stringing p1 + p2 together as thought I hadn't gone far enough. Some big gear would have been useful for top pitch.
saintlade - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - AltLd - 13/Nov/11

Ewan Russell - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/11 with Connor

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/11

Adam Lincoln - Lead O/S - 30/May/11 with Joe Bertalot

2 rests due to total arm failure. Good climbing, but steeeeeeep.
victim of mathematics - 2nd dog - 20/May/11 with Sophie Whyte

laurelfan - AltLd - 14/May/11 with Tania

Only climbed the first pitch. Tough one. Tried to lead but backed down. Seconded clean.
Jonas Paulsson - 2nd - 11/May/11 with Jacques Lepesant

Hidden - May/11

Some quality climbing, good and tricky to sort gear. i wouldnt argue with E3 but i had no big gear. The thing about big holds out left is pretty bollocks. lowered off first pitch. could do with re-threading soon. you would need to cut the old stuff and take some thin tape.
Alex Mason - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/11 with Thomas Martin

centurion05 - 2nd rpt - 01/Mar/11

Owain Llewelyn - Lead - 01/Mar/11 with Andy

Hidden - 2011

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/May/10

khawk - Lead O/S - 03/May/10 with DT

datoon - 2nd O/S - 03/May/10 with K

barni - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/10 with long jon

soph - Lead - 2010 with Colin Angus

soph - Lead - 2010 with Colin Angus

switch - Lead rpt - 20/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/09

Dave Rumney - Lead - 25/May/09 with Tanya Milner

brilliant climb, gets a bit spicy if you get pumped on the runout on the first pitch
anguskille - Lead O/S - 02/May/09 with Alex Bromhead

Sgt. Vest - Lead dog - 22/Feb/09 with sophie wilmes

sonnenstern - 2nd dog - 22/Feb/09 with Will Malcolm

Hidden - Lead - 20/Sep/08

the juicy dangler - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/08 with james marjot

crag_monster - AltLd - Jun/08

Matt Vigg - 2008

tigertiger - 2008

Al Evans - 2008

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

Hidden - 2nd dog - 27/Aug/07

i thought id cruise this - no sir! this felt hard at E2 but it doesnt warrant E3. very very good and quite pumpy / sustained, good value. big gear - hexes of use.
ksjs - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/07 with goosebump

Rich Kirby - AltLd O/S - 17/Jun/06 with Nige

nige - Lead - 17/Jun/06 with richard kirby

frost - 2nd - Jun/06 with N Griffiths

NeilGriffiths - AltLd - 18/Jul/04 with Simon Frost

Hidden - 2004

Very tough!
ian caton - Lead O/S - Oct/03 with Abi

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/03

Pulled a huge boulder on myself at the very top. Petrified all the climbers on lower tier when it fell off.
TimJM - Lead O/S - May/01 with Dave Reynolds

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/99

Roget - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/99 with jim

Hidden - AltLd - 16/Jul/98

Ched - Lead O/S - 1997 with Glanfor

Hidden - Lead rpt - 20/May/95

Dave Musgrove - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/90 with David

Dave Musgrove Jnr - 2nd - 09/Apr/90 with Dad

andy gittins - 1985

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/84

Ian Jones - AltLd O/S - 1983 with Dave Greenald, Billy Jones, Chris Gore, Tom Jones, Paul Stott, 'Flog'

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Apr/77

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
Ewan Russell, Dr Fran (Vagabond MC)

Voting
Total votes cast 47
hard E30 of 17
E30 of 17
easy E32 of 17
hard E214 of 17
E21 of 17
easy E20 of 17
hard E10 of 17
E10 of 17
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hard 5c0 of 16
5c0 of 16
easy 5c0 of 16
hard 5b13 of 16
5b3 of 16
easy 5b0 of 16
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Style of ascent

Lead39 of 75 (52.0%)
Followed12 of 75 (16.0%)
Alt Leads12 of 75 (16.0%)
Unknown12 of 75 (16.0%)

'Climbed'28 of 75 (37.3%)
clean O/S33 of 75 (44.0%)
clean β2 of 75 (2.7%)
clean rpt4 of 75 (5.3%)
dogged7 of 75 (9.3%)
dnf1 of 75 (1.3%)