Thin and very icy all the way. The crux ice wall after the massive chock stone was poorly protected tech 4, so V 4 was more appropriate in today's conditions. Great fun, though the weather was pretty poor with loads of spindrift. Simon's first proper ice(!) route.masa-alpin - Lead rpt - 29/Nov/13 with Simon P
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Nov/13
quite thin but solid higher up. the cave Pitch beyond the tunnel was probably the hardest climbing I have done to date, nearer IV than II
punj - Lead - 23/Nov/13 with john meechan
Reached second belay and heard massive fracturing and movement in the snowpack so decided it was not worth getting avalanched. Just to let anyone thinking of attempting know.
martinmckenna - Lead dnf - 08/Apr/13 with John
Great conditions - hard neve from CIC hut all way to bottom of route, feels like a route in itself. Huge amounts of ice, rock belays hard to find - ice screw belays. No ice tunnel but ice pitch corner good value. Cornice easily break throughable on left. Fantastic day out in perfect overhead conditions. Only downside was RAF plane sweeping down Obervatory Gully cared the by Jesus out of us - we though we were caught in mother of all avalanches.
Parkie - Lead - 03/Apr/13 with Sally
mzchambers - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/13 with Ben G
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Mar/13
dav_713 - AltLd - 13/Mar/13 with Davie Scott
Excellent conditions and could not have been better. I had a bit of a problem in the ice tunnel as it was too small to fit through with the daypack so I had to attach my pack to my harness with a sling while in the tunnel. Ice build up has made the tunnel impassable with a pack about half way up.
philipstead - Lead O/S - 23/Feb/13
znord - Solo O/S - 18/Feb/13
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/Feb/13
mike_tamanawis - 2nd β - 09/Feb/13 with Ollie, Chris Hop
morpcat - 06/Feb/13 with wilkinscl
Dangerous after heavy snowfall.
wilkinscl - AltLd O/S - 06/Feb/13 with Edward shelly
Tunnel was just in (party in front dug out the top for us. Provided some nice shelter from a cold stormy day but required taking the bag off and wriggling. All great fun though
Doogleman - Lead - Feb/13
carl_123 - Lead O/S - 12/Jan/13
Lasted longer than expected into the night. I found it a challenge.
Mattlloyd10 - 2nd - 10/Jan/13
Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jan/13
mark12345 - Solo dnf - 2013
rob16 - AltLd - 2013
Hidden - 2013
Oldinio - Solo - 2013
6aPunter - 2013
not sure how many grade ii's require a cut loose? probably easier with more ice
grp - Lead O/S - 18/Dec/12 with jon_ridley
jon_ridley - 18/Dec/12 with Will Pope, Geoff Pyatt
becoming-stranger - 2nd O/S - 18/Dec/12 with Jon Ridley
neve poor, ice lean,chockstone 10ft gap,upper chimny ice cascade not fully formed ,desperte for grade technical 4
peter fetlar - AltLd O/S - 15/Dec/12 with stewart
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Dec/12
thebat - 14/Apr/12 with Ontour
Kerry's second winter lead, brilliant climb, tunnel adds to the quality of route!
Adamski1986 - 2nd - 07/Apr/12 with Kerry Gutteridge
Hidden - Lead - 07/Apr/12
Tim Rodgers - AltLd - 06/Apr/12 with Rod Molyneux
Fantastic conditions, ice cave was great, very wintry looking mountain
Foxy - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/12
Hidden - AltLd - 26/Mar/12
Hottest march on record. Snow was still frozen at top of observatory gully, slightly soggier on top. Tower Scoop had 2 teams on it.
Roch - AltLd - 26/Mar/12 with Luke Parkes
last of winter just, fantastic top pitch clear views on the summit
parksy986 - AltLd O/S - 26/Mar/12 with paul rochford
Sally Hudson - AltLd - 23/Mar/12 with Alan Halewood
nikkimac - Solo - 21/Mar/12 with Sian Richards, Emily Roo
Hidden - Solo - 21/Mar/12
The tunnel was formed really nicely which made for some interesting climbing
Blurgy319 - AltLd O/S - 18/Mar/12
Stepped out most of the way with a tight squeeze through the tunnel under chockstone, good fun!
mikedelderfield - Solo O/S - 18/Mar/12 with Steven Delderfield
Hidden - 18/Mar/12
ste_d - Solo O/S - 18/Mar/12 with mik
soloed up to cave, took rope through the tunnel but not really necessary as it turned out. Magical and unique!
abbeywall - Lead - 18/Mar/12 with K, AC
jshields - AltLd - 17/Mar/12 with Ed James
Soloed except for through the tunnel to the top. Drew led it. A tight squeeze through the cave. Definately high in the novelty grade.
climberuk - 2nd O/S - 17/Mar/12 with Drew, Nina
Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/12
Hidden - Lead - 14/Mar/12
Going through the ice tunnel was good fun!
Ken Applegate - AltLd - 13/Mar/12 with Rusty
Did after Tower Scoop (Smiths had big queue, Good Friday was over-run with people), really enjoyable and unique route. Up through the ice tunnel!
Simonfarfaraway - AltLd O/S - 05/Mar/12 with Huw
bizarre tunnel - felt like ice pot-holing - loved it.
thomb - Solo - 02/Mar/12
kj001 - 2nd - 01/Mar/12 with Phil Dowthwaite
Steve Woollard - AltLd - 26/Feb/12 with Joe Bellows
Great climb, tunnel felt pretty tight!
A Reid - Lead - 25/Feb/12 with Charles
Scott Dunkley - AltLd - 25/Feb/12 with Dom S, Scott A
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Feb/12
Turned back in the tunnel, too tight/loose to climb and the icefall on the right of the chocks-tone wasn't in condition.
bowls - AltLd dnf - 12/Feb/12
MarcJLangley - Lead O/S - 11/Feb/12
Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Jan/12
Solo upto the cave, steep and icy and like no grade II i've done before. Utterly knackered from the approach, climbing Tower Scoop, traversing across. Guy lead from the tunnel. No cornice at the moment.
Zoomer - Solo O/S - 14/Jan/12 with Guy Buckingham
guy757 - 14/Jan/12
Callum Anderson - 2012
Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/11
David86 - 2nd O/S - 07/Apr/11
Mountainman62 - 07/Apr/11 with David86, James91
Right hand finish grade 3. No protection.
steven - Lead - 04/Mar/11 with Dave Ryder
Hidden - TR - 04/Mar/11
Darrell Read - Lead - 27/Feb/11 with Simon Hall
Hidden - 2nd - 27/Feb/11
richie88 - 24/Jan/11
allyrocke - Solo O/S - 23/Jan/11 with Morgan Trigg, Katie Main, Robbie
Ice pitch was definitely solid tech 3!
rcammack - Solo O/S - 23/Jan/11 with Morgan Trigg, Katie Main, Alistair Rocke
Triggalicious - 23/Jan/11 with Katie Main, Robbie Cammack, Ally Rocke
Gd III 4 15m ice pitch after long Gd I/II gully.
Ice Spider - AltLd - 02/Jan/11 with Keith, Bob Allan
Bob.allan - 2nd - 02/Jan/11 with Jason Mitchell
31770 - 2011
rossn - 2011
Andrew Wilson - Lead O/S - 29/Dec/10 with Tim Pearson
Hidden - 2nd dog - 28/Dec/10
Soft snow over ice, but no cornice on the left (luckily). The whole crag seemed to be melting as, just for a change, the weather forcast got the freezing level about 300m out.
George Ormerod - Lead β - 08/Apr/10 with Buffy
Nice little ice cave
Phil Emerson - AltLd - Apr/10
An unexpected ice pitch after the tunnel. Nice!
jamestheyip - Lead rpt - 20/Mar/10 with Suzana El-Massri, Hannah Vickers
Hidden - 2nd - 20/Mar/10
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Feb/10
I managed to get stuck in between the rock and ice on the top icefall and dropped my pack whilst trying to free myself, I picked it up later from the base of tower gully about 500m down! The top ice pitch felt awkward and hard, at least 4 in the conditions encountered.
mikemartin - Solo - 08/Feb/10
Hidden - 2nd dnf - 01/Feb/10
colinthrelfall - 2010
Hidden - 2010
Hard and icy conditions with very little gear til the top ice pitch which was climbed on the right - probably grade III here. Big overhanging cornice. Found a way through on the left - quite serious runout though with big exposure over the right end of indicator wall.
DavPk - Lead - 19/Apr/09 with Catherine Pearks
Hidden - Lead - 12/Apr/09
jamestheyip - AltLd O/S - Apr/09 with Piet Wolters
Col Kingshott - Lead O/S - Apr/09
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Mar/09
Martin Haworth - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/09 with Alex mason
Missed indicator wall due to poor visibility, lots of melting and falling ice. Gully was banked out with snow so did the right-hand corner.
Alex Mason - AltLd O/S - 21/Mar/09 with Martin Haworth
Eerie day as Ben was empty, lots of stuff falling down. Too much snow to go under chockstone. Grade 3 groove in very poor condition so bailed.
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - Solo dnf - 27/Feb/09
Hidden - Lead - 25/Feb/09
climbed with don, had to do the right hand variation cave pitch covered! probably at IV
Billy Walker - Bad Seller - 2nd O/S - 24/Feb/09
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Feb/09
JonHarvey - AltLd O/S - 19/Feb/09 with Jay Jackson
Hidden - Lead - 01/Feb/09
Plan B after seeing the sorry state of Tower Scoop. Bailed at the chockstone - choked with snow underneath, and unappealing conditions up the right hand groove. Happy to leave given the amount of falling debris.
size9hex - AltLd dnf - Feb/09 with Tom Evans
As the old SMC guidebook suggests the steep ice pitch behind the chockstone in lean conditions is harder than II.
Chris wilson - AltLd - 03/Jan/09 with Allan
stevepotter - Lead - 02/Jan/09 with steve taylor
CT6419 - 2009
Hidden - 2009
cragmanuk - 2009 with Ian Lamb, John Elliott,Fergal Corrigan
Rich35 - AltLd - 2009
rossn - 2009
Started route at night of new years eve, Topped out for about half 12 new years day. Beer on the summit, Awesome start to a new year!
Solo'd the whole route from valley floor up to the ice pitch after the 'cave/tunnel' by head torch then roped up for the ice wall which was tricky with big bags on. Guide states grade III,4 in this condition. Felt pretty stiff but that might just be the awkwardness and only light by headtorch speaking.
sneaks - Lead O/S - 31/Dec/08 with Gibby
Hard last pitch (steep water ice)
Glyn - AltLd O/S - 31/Dec/08 with David Fountain
plenty of space under the chockstone, but then a short pitch of hard water ice, (small overhanging bulge). My guess is III,4 although the guy behind us said you wouldn't find anything more technical on .5
davefount - AltLd O/S - 31/Dec/08 with Glyn
Hidden - 2nd - Dec/08
gripped01 - Lead O/S - Dec/08 with Emily Flynn
mgg - 20/Apr/08 with SD
thomasaneurinsmith - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/08 with Carol Goodall
butteredfrog - 26/Mar/08
First winter lead, went right of the chock boulder (no tunnel!). Whole gully was pretty banked up with powdery snow.
Alex Thompson - Lead O/S - 23/Mar/08 with Jonny & Anton
glaramara - AltLd - 15/Mar/08 with dr marten
Hidden - AltLd - 01/Mar/08
Snow very loose windslab, it was genuinely a relief to get to the ice pitch on the chockstone as it was the first reliable gear placement on the entire climb and much easier than dealing with the loose stuff! Good route though.
jimorothy - Lead - Mar/08 with Rachel Crolla
Dunx - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/08 with Adam
Great climb, done by accident, just hope someone else has dug under the chock stone!
Adam Humphreys - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/08 with Dunx
Hidden - AltLd - 24/Feb/08
Dunx - AltLd O/S - 24/Feb/08 with Adam
Captain Solo - Solo rpt - 17/Feb/08
Fantastic Caving Expedition
malc - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/08 with Paul S
richard s - 2nd - 14/Feb/08 with Mark Walker, Kay Smith
Backed off chockstone pitch. Too much snow to tunnel through but too thin to climb over. Descended and then traversed below Smith's Route to finish up Tower Gully.
Gman - Lead - 13/Feb/08 with James, Steven, Ritchie
Lots of spin drift and fragile ice coming down the last pitch, abbed off.
Merlin - AltLd dnf - 07/Jan/08 with Alex Elliot
Adam Humphreys - 2008
Moved together until chockstone.
stuaart - Lead O/S - 2008 with Neil Redgrave
Hidden - Lead - 30/Dec/07
very easy except chockstone which had rock hard ice
dthomson - Lead - 08/Apr/07 with paul robinson
Grade 3 condition (tunnel blocked but not banked out, had to take alternative route to the right up steep ice)
HamishD - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/07 with Ross Overhead, Oli
roverhead - 2nd - 02/Mar/07 with oli
tatz45 - AltLd O/S - Feb/07 with Jamie Tattersall
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Feb/07
thin conditions-more ice than snow prob closer to grade III.great route though
gb83 - 2nd - 04/Jan/07 with M.sakano, B.Hayler
alan wilson - 2007
niall_mac - Lead - May/06 with am_bodach
H got the tricky ice pitch in the final chimney
KeithW - AltLd O/S - 04/Feb/06 with Howard & Rachel
Also with Keith Waddell. A fine ice pitch to finish, which I led. Quite lean conditions and a definite Grade III.
Howard J - AltLd O/S - 04/Feb/06 with Rachel James
Very thin. Chockstone 40m below the top just formed a tunnel and then led to 20 metres of steep ice, bulging in places, and chimney action on the right hand side. Ice at top seemed very tricky for a Grade III!
adamscottthomas - AltLd - 01/Feb/06 with Oliver Mentz
We had no ice screws, the cave was buried and so had to climb the runnel up the right edge using 2 screws left by the party in front.
rossn - AltLd O/S - Feb/06 with Nick Bryan
Lean, ice pitch under chockstone, III, 4
Luke Brooks - AltLd - 30/Jan/06 with Rob Grant
Hidden - Solo - 07/Jan/06
Ice Spider - Lead - 01/Jan/06 with Louisa
Dave Latimer - Lead O/S - 01/Jan/06
creag - 2006
Louisa - 2nd - 2006 with Jason
mike.moss - AltLd O/S - 2006
Captain Solo - Solo - 21/Feb/05
Under chockstone on nice ice.
ruaridhmac - Lead - 10/Feb/05 with Fabian Schulmeyer
Hidden - Solo - Apr/04
luckyjim - AltLd - Mar/04 with tom ballard
Tim W - AltLd O/S - 21/Feb/03 with Andrew Wilkinson
Ed Saint - Feb/03
John Kettle - Lead - 2003
zero six - AltLd O/S - 2002
easers - AltLd - Dec/01 with Doug Aitken
Hidden - Lead - 17/Feb/01
ruaridhmac - Solo - 17/Feb/01
Hidden - 18/Jan/01
akhughes - 2000
David Best - Lead O/S - 07/Jan/99 with mike taylor
Dave Almond - Solo - 1999
joe king - Solo - 30/Dec/98 with paul grace
michael burrows - AltLd - 31/Jan/98 with mark ryan
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Jan/98
Hidden - 2nd - 06/Mar/97
DNF Reached a chockstone
iskra2000 - AltLd dnf - 20/Jan/97 with Mark Smith
dangates - Lead - 1997 with Matt Higgenson/ Kirk / Nick T
Queued at bottom of Point Five Gully whilst Catherine Destiville was being filmed climbing the classic route. Got bored and finished up this instead - provided a sporting pitch of steepish ice after the chockstone
NickJH - AltLd O/S - Mar/96 with JOwen
JiveWeasel - 2nd - May/95 with Al H
michaelb1 - Lead - 02/Apr/95 with A Kenny
Hidden - Mar/95
Hidden - Lead - 02/Jan/95
FrankW - AltLd O/S - Mar/94 with Andy R
Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Feb/94
dodders - AltLd - Feb/93 with Dick Hargreaves
V lean and iron hard ice on chockstone - in hard IV 4 conditions.
Yourlead - AltLd - 09/Dec/91 with Graham Penny
surfbish - Lead O/S - Feb/88
johnkeith - 1988 with G. Callander
Mark Kemball - Solo - 29/Mar/84
Managed to squeeze through the chockstone pitch but the little ice wall above was quite steep, followed by horizontal arms in steeper sugar snow. Stunning weather.
Sean Kelly - AltLd - Feb/84 with Joe Flynn
Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1984
Nigel Bond - Solo - 17/Mar/81
auldscotal - AltLd O/S - Apr/75 with Paul Murton
David Smith - Apr/64