Another superb classic taking the exposed grooved arete above Hobson's Choice on perfect rock by way of some varied and absorbing climbing. A must do.

Ticklists: Victim Of Mathematics' Ticklist of Extreme Justice, Classic safe Lake District E2/E3, Very good routes in the UK, Allan Austin Classics, Kendal Wall's Best 100 climbs in Britain, Ultimate E2 ticklist, UK Lonely Leads.

ClimberDateStyleNotes & Partners
fuzzysheep01 04/Oct AltLd O/S

Led 5a pitch.

DubyaJamesDubya 04/Oct AltLd O/S

I led pitch 1: Bold but steady, difficult to say where the crux was. Two sublime pitches; stellar route.

Joe Norris
Hidden 15/Sep AltLd O/S
Rachel Slater 06/Sep AltLd O/S

Lead the crux pitch. Lovely moves but short! Wanted to carry on up the next pitch.

tim newton 06/Sep AltLd rpt
Chrismoore94 16/Aug AltLd
DavidR 08/Aug AltLd O/S

I led the crux 5c pitch; Hol led the wandering approach pitch and the top 5a pitch.

Climbster 03/Jul AltLd O/S

P 2 - Nice climb.

MFB 27/Jun AltLd

me - top easy pitch (5a) only, the climb to the start (hobsons choice) should not be underestimated

Hidden 16/Apr Lead O/S
Dave Rumney ??/2015 -
Dave Rumney ??/2015 -
Dave Rumney ??/2015 -
lost.arrow 20/Sep/14 AltLd
Stu Sherwood
ollyroberts 15/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

Approach pitches and Pitch 2. Esther managed to string the crux pitch and slab together. Left me with the short top corner.

Esther Seddon
soph 14/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
Tony Stone
Liam Ingram 13/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

Led main pitch. Not hard but committing and a touch bold.

climbingpixie 13/Sep/14 AltLd O/S

Superb! Enough gear for the hard moves, enough holds on the run out.

Hainsy 13/Sep/14 AltLd O/S
Liam Ingram
Stuart Walker 08/Sep/14 2nd
esther ?/Sep/14 AltLd
DavidEvans 11/Jul/14 AltLd O/S

I thought the crux pitch was quite serious. The climbing is easy enough but it's a long way between the gear. Absolutely cracking route!

John Helme
ned_85 02/Jul/14 AltLd
Gudge 02/Jul/14 AltLd O/S

P1 & 3. Absolutely brilliant route - all the more spicy for not being able to find the hidden pocket at top of first pitch!

bigdrew 28/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
Hidden 23/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
John Pickles 23/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
barni 22/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
Luke Brooks 22/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
cobweb 16/May/14 AltLd rpt
martyn hopson
john lynch 19/Apr/14 AltLd O/S

Led the 5c pitch - very absorbing and cold. classic.

Joe Holden
Hidden ??/2014 -
Alastair R 28/Sep/13 AltLd
Steve and Pete
Hidden 14/Sep/13 Lead
Paul Figg 10/Jul/13 AltLd

Top quality climb on fab rock.

Pay Attention ?/Jul/13 2nd
GPN 18/Jun/13 AltLd

Lead the main pitch this time. Wonderful route!

Shaw Brown 18/Jun/13 AltLd
Hidden 10/Jun/13 AltLd
Malcolm Bass 10/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
Adrian Mellor
Rachel Somerville 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

P1, P2 and P3.

WB 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Not sure its worth 3 stars

Lessworkmoreclimbing 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

I led pitch 4 which was lovely. Pitch 3 was great. Not too hard but quite out there in position and gear would have focussed my mind!

chrishedgehog 07/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Felt quite friendly for E2 I thought.

James Rees
Hidden 07/Jun/13 Lead
Stig 07/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Jun/13 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/May/13 AltLd O/S
JanBella 02/May/13 2nd O/S

some of the best climbing i have ever done. it's got it all - exposure, great views and superb climbing.

Hidden ?/Apr/13 -
simon_D 11/Aug/12 Lead O/S


Karen Mc
Kazza91 ?/Aug/12 -
Hidden 15/Jul/12 Lead
disposition62 ?/Jun/12 2nd O/S
Hidden 27/May/12 Lead
Hidden 26/May/12 AltLd O/S
david morse 26/May/12 AltLd O/S

Lead p2, didnt find the pocket above the crack...felt nails without this! Best route I've done in the lakes to date

Hidden 26/May/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 14/Apr/12 Lead O/S
Pohil 26/Mar/12 AltLd
John Crook
nakedave 25/Mar/12 Lead
Bob Windsor ?/Mar/12 2nd
Pete Graham
JonG ??/2012 -
cballard ??/2012 -
cballard ??/2012 -
Stone Idle ??/2012 -
Stone Idle ??/2012 -
Hidden 01/Sep/11 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Aug/11 AltLd O/S
Misha 30/Jul/11 AltLd O/S
ellis 24/Jul/11 AltLd rpt

Also failed on nearby route...

Tom Bridgeland
Hidden 10/Jul/11 AltLd O/S
C coldwell-storry 02/Jul/11 Lead O/S
rob lay
Rob1988 02/Jul/11 AltLd
Andrew Wilson 12/Jun/11 AltLd O/S

Tony linked first 2 pitches. i led 5c pitch, then tony the 5a to the top. amazing route, quite a run out after the flake.

Tony Womersley
Hidden 27/Apr/11 AltLd O/S
whispering nic 22/Apr/11 AltLd O/S

Very warm. Excellent.

buzby78 22/Apr/11 AltLd
Hidden ??/2011 -
alkira ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
tim newton 25/Sep/10 AltLd O/S

main pitch easier than i was expecting. 2 cruxes both well protected, with 5a-ish climbing in between getting steadily more run out

nia ?/Sep/10 AltLd
Ahab 15/May/10 AltLd O/S

Got the crux pitch. Seriously committing moves and felt very sparse on gear. Felt considerably harder than an E2 round the corner (bracken clock).

Hidden ??/2010 -
khawk 13/Sep/09 AltLd
datoon 13/Sep/09 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Sep/09 -
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe 30/May/09 Lead
Rachel Hassall
HamishD 01/Apr/09 2nd O/S
lukehunt 01/Apr/09 Lead O/S

Cold and Wet, but great climbing!

Hamish Dunn
Hidden ??/2009 -
Seymore Butt ??/2009 -
Chad123 28/Sep/08 AltLd O/S

Seemed quite tough for E2, must have been having a bad day - the first tricky section is moving away from your gear and the middle section felt pretty bold. Top crux well protected though and last pitch lovely groove climbing in great postion...shame about first 2 pitches!

ewen 31/May/08 Lead O/S
Alex Mason 14/May/08 Lead O/S

soloed first two pitches, lead next two seconded, top. Amazing route with exposure too rival anything ive done before.

Tom Martin
dannyboy83 06/May/08 Lead O/S

Brilliant route

GPN ?/May/08 AltLd
Hidden 21/Oct/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden 21/Oct/07 AltLd O/S
IanJackson 09/Sep/07 Lead O/S

Good Climbing in a great position, on amazing rock!

Hidden 31/Jul/07 AltLd
Hidden 31/Jul/07 AltLd O/S
Graham Iles 10/Jun/07 AltLd

Cooperman lead the main pitch.

J1PEF ?/Jun/07 AltLd
John Kettle 04/May/07 AltLd O/S
Lee Sheard ?/Apr/07 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Aug/06 Lead O/S
Hidden 08/Jul/06 AltLd O/S
fizzy_elephant 08/Jul/06 AltLd O/S

Supoib. Perhaps quite low in the grade.

Bern ?/Jul/06 -
Hidden 09/Jun/06 Lead O/S
Bella ?/Sep/05 2nd O/S
Hidden 07/Aug/05 AltLd O/S
French Erick 08/Jul/05 AltLd O/S
Jim Holt
Hidden ?/May/04 AltLd rpt
Hidden ??/2004 Lead O/S
Pete Graham ??/2003 2nd
Rick Graham
Hidden 09/May/02 AltLd
bullybones ??/2000 -
simon cox ??/2000 -
Adam Lincoln ??/2000 Lead
craig matheson ??/1999 Lead
phardman 21/Sep/96 2nd

Done before

D Tempest 15/Sep/96 AltLd
Hidden ?/Aug/96 AltLd
michael burrows 01/Jul/95 Lead O/S
richard parry
Hidden ??/1995 Lead
John Southworth 17/Jul/94 AltLd
Andy MacNae
Hidden ?/May/94 AltLd
Mick King 06/Sep/93 AltLd

Lead P1 & 3

Simon Walsh
Jonathan Lagoe - UKC ?/Jul/93 AltLd
Phil Poole
rob.grafton 06/Jun/93 Lead
NickJH ?/May/93 AltLd O/S
Narked4fun ??/1993 -
Hidden 28/Jun/92 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Jun/92 AltLd
Mick King 20/Jul/91 AltLd

Lead p1 & 3

Pete Hankinson
PaulTanton ?/Jul/91 Lead O/S
Garath Bloor
Hidden 08/Aug/90 2nd
Chris Wright 22/Jul/90 AltLd
Hidden 15/Jul/90 Lead
Hidden 14/Jul/90 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/1990 -
Hidden ??/1990 -
Steve Lenartowicz ??/1990 Lead
Hidden 21/Jul/89 2nd
tmawer ??/1989 Lead O/S
Andy Say 11/Jun/88 Lead
Rich Kirby ??/1988 AltLd O/S
The General (P.Henderson)
Paula Hamilton-Gibson ??/1987 Lead
Stella Adams
steve taylor ?/Jul/86 AltLd
Martin Stansbury
Steve Crowe 22/Jun/86 Lead O/S
John Marsland 28/Sep/85 Lead
Tony Rex
Bob 08/Jun/85 Solo

The crux was fine, it was the blind groove at the top that was frightening.

ian caton ??/1985 -
Mike Owen 18/Jul/84 -
Elaine Owen
Bruce Kerr 13/May/84 2nd
Dave Simmonds
Lone Rider ?/May/84 AltLd
Hidden ??/1984 Lead
Hidden ??/1984 Lead
Ghastly Rubberfeet 21/Jul/83 Lead
Tom Redfern
DPaul 19/Jun/83 AltLd O/S
ewar woowar ??/1983 Lead
mark-abz 22/Jul/82 Lead O/S
Andy W
TonyF 12/Jul/82 AltLd
Tony Cox
Mark Kemball 29/May/82 AltLd
Chris Calow
Bob 18/Apr/82 AltLd O/S
S. Stean
Hammy 20/Mar/82 AltLd
Fai Kwong
telemark ??/1982 Lead O/S
Robin Sills
Campbell42 ?/Jun/81 Lead O/S
Phil Booth
Hidden ?/Jun/80 AltLd O/S
redjerry ?/Jun/80 Lead O/S
Roy Williamson
robinsi197 ??/1980 -
andy gittins ??/1980 Lead
Hidden 09/Jun/79 Lead
Ian Jones ??/1979 2nd O/S

Sure felt hard for E1.

Tommy Curtis
Hidden 03/Jun/78 AltLd O/S
Hidden 03/Jun/78 AltLd
Mark Kemball 22/Jun/77 Lead dnf
D Tempest ?/Jan/77 AltLd
Hidden 25/Apr/76 AltLd
Marcus ??/1976 -
Dave Musgrove 23/Jun/75 AltLd O/S

A significant route at the time and one on which we had to make an early ethical decision. Should we use chalk? - We did but felt guilty about it!

Falko 18/May/75 Lead O/S
Al W.
greenbuoy ?/Aug/74 2nd

Less difficult than expected, but superb position

jcw 20/Sep/69 -
Gordon McNair
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