It felt like e2 5b to me, adventurous!!
Andy Peak 1 - Lead O/S - 03/Dec/14 with phill ukc
leeds_belle - 2nd dog - 22/Jun/14 with Will
Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/14
really pumpy, really exposed, at the peak of the grade, I CAN DO IT!!!!!
christianbreeze - 2nd dog - 05/Oct/13 with adi bryant
adi bryant - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/13 with christianbreeze
More like E2. although its an eliminate its such a striking arete it has to be climbed.
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/13
Wayne S - 2nd - 19/Jun/13 with Deacon
Marcus Brewer - 2nd - 28/Sep/12
keith leonard - 2012
Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Oct/11
good moves but would be very contrived to avoid holds and gear in himmelswillen half way up. top section fingery and probably the crux but too easy to bridge across chimney for rest. quite hard for grade if you don't do this though
Alex@home - 2nd O/S - 26/Oct/11 with Tony Moody
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/May/11
Marti999 - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/10 with Anna
sims - TR dog - 23/Aug/09 with Jonno
Hidden - Lead dog - 13/Aug/09
Top roped it, as it looked poorly protected. I have to say, if you are not supposed to use the crack or pro on Himmelswillen, then this is a desperate and very bold E1. There is only a poor cam placement at half height to protect a very balancy and difficult crux move, then a cam to protect the top out. It was very pumpy on a top rope. Maybe the crack is in, which would make it feel more like E1. Without I'd say E3, it's as hard as banana wall which I lead no probs and a lot more scary.
A better description in the guide might clear things up!!
robbo - TR - 20/Mar/09 with Phil Jenks
clive-greenwood - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/08 with Anna
Anna Horrox - 2nd - 27/Aug/08 with Clive Greenwood
yeah, yeah, top-roping scum - was feeling weak. If gear in the Himelswillen crack is allowed, this would be a nice well protected E1, without it - a rather contrived eliminate.
adam carless - TR O/S - 15/Jun/08 with SecretSquirrel
mattyork2 - 2nd - 01/May/08 with Steve Aherne
Hidden - TR O/S - 27/Jan/08
Brian Rodgers - 2nd O/S - 15/Sep/07 with Misha
Misha - Lead O/S - Sep/07
Hidden - Lead dnf - 11/Aug/07
Lukey B - TR O/S - 06/May/07
Hidden - May/07
DavidR - Lead dog - 26/Jul/06 with Holly Adamthwaite & Steve Corcoran
goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 11/Feb/06 with Arnaud Garcon
Backed off it
cem - Lead dnf - 05/Feb/06 with Graham Dolman
Hidden - 2nd - 31/Jul/05
Hidden - 2nd dog - May/05
Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/03
Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/May/02
Chris Reid - Lead O/S - May/01