Hidden - Lead dnf - 13/Aug/15
Fell. Had a little pump going in and wasn't strong enough to pull it off. Next time if I make it back to Bamford
RosePearson - Lead dnf - 09/Aug/15 with Veronica
Desperate climbing in the rain great adventure feeling at the top traverse section.
Maken - 2nd O/S - 01/Aug/15 with tom hudson
Hidden - 2nd - 11/Jun/15
Puzzling crux. Lovely route. An unlikely ascent in the conditions - rain soaking the route and then blustery wind drying it in seconds, freezing fingers, a bit gloomy etc... very grateful to Simon for retrieving the gear on second despite even gloomier conditions, even colder fingers etc..!
chrishedgehog - Lead O/S - 28/May/15 with Simon, Graham
Hidden - Lead β - 16/May/15
Slipped off, just a bit too short! Charley made it look easy, damn his tallness!
Jackwd - 2nd dog - 10/May/15 with Charley Fell
Tricky/reachy moves getting past the overlap but felt very soft for E2. Was pretty happy with the gear behind the flakes.
charley - Lead O/S - 10/May/15 with JackD
Second go after not getting the good part of the flake first time on a long reach.
Bernie L - Lead G/U - 19/Apr/15 with Chris Peka, John Hammond
Reach needed a 2nd attempt at a different angle but no rest.
cdpuk - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/15 with Bernhard Lozowski, John Hammond
Hidden - 2nd dog - 19/Apr/15
Couldn't make the reach, 2 inches off and not much else to pull on.
Tala M - 2nd dog - 18/Apr/15 with Mike Brookes
mjeffery - Lead G/U - 16/Apr/15 with Steve
Mr Wild - 2nd - 05/Apr/15
RKirke - Lead O/S - 02/Nov/14 with Alex T
lena.drapella - 2nd dog - 02/Nov/14 with Niels
Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Nov/14
Finally!! Was trying it completely the wrong way!
ashtond6 - Lead G/U - 02/Nov/14
On Rog's gear.
Alex the Alex - Lead β - 02/Nov/14 with Rog
Jack93 - 2nd O/S - 25/Oct/14 with Jim Hulbert
Hard for the short! Great climbing though.
spidermonkey09 - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/14 with Jack Knight
Second go after falling trying to reverse from midish crux, still felt pretty hard!!
shaunhumphreys - Lead G/U - 22/Oct/14 with franhammond92
sacked off as couldn't reach the hold properly in the incoming rain
benkelsey - Lead dnf - 22/Oct/14 with rory wadsworth
Nick1812P - Lead β - 22/Oct/14
John Bish - 2nd - 18/Oct/14 with James Martin
Long reach on crux
Nick Wallis - 2nd dog - 05/Oct/14 with Dave Hollinger
masonwoods101 - Lead β - 28/Sep/14 with danjimwill
danjimwill - 28/Sep/14
So creaky, the route that is not me
Gambit - 2nd rpt - 27/Sep/14 with Mark Leicester
tatz45 - Lead rpt - 27/Sep/14 with Lisa Morgan
This has got seriously harder so must have lost a hold, from obvious rock scar. Hard 5c or 6a now. One move only and still very well protected but a shame it is so unbalanced now.
simon1965 - 2nd - 22/Sep/14 with James
What a shame this route was damaged. I'm bemused by comments below. It's a very hard move, 6a in my opinion. Clearly very reach dependent.
Stig - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/14 with Simon1965
Hidden - 2nd dnf - 31/Aug/14
Felt like a long way to a not very good hold. Next time.
MYox - Lead dnf - 30/Aug/14 with Barbara
Quite nice, not too bad if your lanky like me...
Calum Wadsworth - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/14 with Emma
Rich Malcolm - Lead β - 02/Aug/14 with Darren Pallett
Couldn't do the move, i'm rubbish at coming up from overhangs, even once I got my hands on the good holds I couldn't pull onto the face.
Guy Atkinson - 2nd dnf - 20/Jul/14 with Tom Butterworth
Jim Slater - Lead rpt - 03/Jul/14 with Katie Mouritz
didn't think it was soft. gear placements are good but in suspect flakes.
theomoore - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/14 with Roisin
Jam_sandwich - Lead β - 22/Jun/14 with Alex Thompson, Sam Carey
Downclimbed off the crux move, let Jam take the tick. Save it for another day.
Alex Thompson - Lead dnf - 22/Jun/14 with Jam, Sam Carey
Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/14
Lawrence Beesley-Peck - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/14 with Jamie Paterson
Hidden - Lead - Jun/14
PeteWilson - Lead O/S - 21/May/14 with Dave
Anne Gumbley - 2nd dog - 05/May/14 with Mark Fairbank
markfairbank - Lead O/S - 05/May/14 with Anne Gumbley
First grit E2. Big thumbs up
Gabe Oliver - Lead O/S - 04/May/14
Take 2, still can't do the move. Bogey route
ashtond6 - Lead dnf - 03/May/14
Hidden - Lead β - 03/May/14
Failed on crux of this a year ago on cold day. Glad to get it today when I could feel my fingers!! The crux is a very long reach. The rest is easy!!
climberchristy - Lead rpt - 18/Apr/14 with Ben Cole
Went up to give Jumping Jack Longland a go, but after one failed excursion over the roof my arms were giving up so I bailed on the normal finish to this route.
David Kay - Lead rpt - 10/Apr/14 with Moritz Lessmann
Tim Rodgers - Lead dnf - 29/Mar/14 with Mark Anstiss
Hidden - 2014
Hidden - Lead - 2014
Hidden - 2014
marconi - 2nd - 17/Dec/13
admackie - 17/Dec/13 with mark
MarkRoe - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/13 with Smithy
Oo - 2nd dnf - 06/Oct/13
Smithy Smith - 2nd dog - 06/Oct/13 with Mark Roe
nick ferro - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/13 with Oli Birkill
one desperate move sandwiched in a 2 star hvs
rurp - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/13 with bill farmer
Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/13
Wayne S - 2nd - 08/Aug/13 with Deacon
Gudge - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/13 with Coel Hellier
Tim_C7 - Lead - Aug/13 with Toby D
Brown - 2nd - 30/Jul/13 with James T
claregardiner - Lead - 10/Jul/13
i.fish2000 - Lead dnf - 07/Jul/13 with David P.
MikeLeeds - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/13 with Dave Clark
Roberttaylor - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/13 with Liam Ingram
Undercut. Get feet high. Reach with right hand, then left laying away slightly. Wouldn't be a bad E2 to lead; well protected crux move.
gavinpeach - 2nd rpt - 16/Jun/13 with James Lawson, Max Pendleton
Tried to lead after seconding, but couldn't do the crux, then seconded it again quite easily. Next time!
Kirill - 2nd - 16/Jun/13 with Igor Gotlibovych, Charles Moreton
cem - Lead rpt - 16/Jun/13 with EeFu Thong, Kirill Spiridonov
ig248 - Lead - 16/Jun/13 with Kirill
EeFu - 2nd dnf - 16/Jun/13 with Charles Moreton
Ground up. Easy when you get it right.
Nathanie1 - Lead RP - 09/Jun/13 with Louise Hall
Cheated the crux... one day.
Louise Hall - 2nd dog - 09/Jun/13 with Nathaniel Gjoderum-Symons
Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/13
Marq - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/13 with Kev
Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/13
Hidden - Lead rpt - 19/May/13
Jonathan Hall - 2nd - 19/May/13 with Rob Middleton
mhawk - TR O/S - 16/May/13 with Kai Ren Ong
First E2 lead. The moves felt like solid 5c but the crux is short-lived and well protected with a good rest at either end. probably puts it at the lower end of E2, but no push over.
Jimbo C - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/13 with Chris
Tamati - 2nd - Apr/13
Will Hunt - Lead O/S - 03/Mar/13 with Dan Matthewman
Hidden - 2nd dog - 03/Mar/13
Maxim2023 - Lead O/S - Mar/13 with Kate Tarrant
kate tarrant - 2nd dog - Mar/13
Mike Hegarty - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/13 with Dave
Neil D - Lead dnf - 02/Feb/13 with Nadeem Rahim
maria85 - 2nd dog - 21/Oct/12 with Will
riddle - 2nd O/S - 14/Oct/12 with Tom Elliot
sopaz - 2nd - 07/Oct/12
Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/12
Hidden - 2nd rpt - 09/Sep/12
Fell once on the crux, then clean, great route
claregardiner - Lead - 01/Sep/12
Jethro - 2nd - Sep/12 with Helen Marsden, Simon Lindley, Mark Watkins, Richard Sharpe, Adam Lindley
Quite tough, difficult to get the flake in the right way.
James Oswald - 2nd - 27/Jul/12 with deacon, Jon Stewart
jwpil - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/12 with James Oswald
David Kay - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/12 with Mel Michon
Hidden - 2nd - 14/Jul/12
Haydn Jones - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/12 with andy gardner, deacon, ed morris
Ed morris - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/12 with haydn jones
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/12
gavinpeach - 2nd dog - 04/Jun/12 with Andrew Deacon
pmurdy - Lead O/S - 18/May/12 with Mike W
mwatson - 2nd O/S - 18/May/12
Simon_Letman - Lead O/S - 12/May/12 with Mark gillanders
Had some recommendations... Safe crux, definitely a soft one for the tall.
Oliver Houston - Lead β - 12/May/12
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/May/12
awesomely cool, bit too well protected for E2, but cool all the same !!
Woodiee - 2nd O/S - 05/May/12 with oliwarlow
Richard P Coates - 2nd dnf - 04/May/12 with Courty, ianjfsutcliffe
stuaart - 2nd - 14/Apr/12 with Neil Redgrave
With lower gear in place
Gambit - Lead O/S - 23/Mar/12 with Barney
Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/12
Tony Kartawick - 2012
Tony Kartawick - 2012
adie84 - 2012
ianjfsutcliffe - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/11 with Coatesy
Richard P Coates - 2nd dnf - 06/Nov/11 with ianjfsutcliffe
rested between crux attempts
bwestwood - Lead - 28/Oct/11
JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Liam Ingram
allyrocke - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Jamie Sparkes
Hidden - Lead - 16/Oct/11
Hidden - Lead RP - 15/Oct/11
drysori - 2nd - 15/Oct/11 with Alex
Desperate reach to get established above the roof!
Rob84 - 2nd dnf - 24/Sep/11 with Rob Adie
Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/11
Hidden - 2nd dog - 03/Sep/11
tom.ireson - Lead rpt - 03/Sep/11 with Charlotte Latter
henry peter jenkins - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/11 with emilio bachini
Hidden - 2nd dog - 28/Aug/11
smollett - Lead - 24/Jul/11 with oliver
max_chan - Lead rpt - 24/Jul/11 with Phil PCC
jonnybull - Lead dog - 24/Jul/11 with Mags
Hidden - 2nd RP - 14/Jul/11
Hidden - Lead RP - 14/Jul/11
Very fun, climbing felt safe with one hard move above a nest of bomber gear. .....
dprctr - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/11 with Tom Ireson
Really nice route but seems very low in the grade. Only one tough move which is very well protected.
tom.ireson - Lead rpt - 26/Jun/11 with Paul Jones, David Proctor
Hidden - Lead rpt - 31/May/11
pie_eater_pete - Lead O/S - 20/May/11
Jake Young - 2nd dog - 04/May/11 with Mike
power! wins over technique.
although I could have made it easier for myself.
a brilliant climb throughout, low in the grade but high in quality.
Steeve - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/11
marcduhig - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/11 with Stewart
Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/11
crazy pierre - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/11 with Rory Juss
Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11
Made the wrong decision to climb this at the end of the day. Rested after trying the under-cling several tries.
riddle - Lead dog - 16/Apr/11
Hidden - Lead - 26/Mar/11
Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Mar/11
Thwarted by freezing fingers and feeling sick.
cleared the gear and absailed off the bush.
nadeem - Lead dnf - 11/Jan/11 with Pete
mwatson - 2011
Hidden - Lead - 2011
Dan Mckinlay - 2011
disturbed_one51 - Lead - 07/Nov/10 with Rob Middleton, Sam Stringer
stephenhartley - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Si teasdale
mark20 - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/10
bigdrew - Lead - 17/Oct/10 with Mark R
1 fall. Should have done it clean but rushed it first time.
bigdrew - Lead dog - 10/Oct/10 with Alistair
donkster - 2nd O/S - 09/Oct/10 with jus
Gazleah - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/10 with paul jones, tom ireson
fell off the crux the first time. found it quite easy the second time.
tim newton - Lead dog - 18/Sep/10 with roger bennion
Hidden - Lead β - 18/Sep/10
r@bag - 2nd dog - 18/Sep/10
Hidden - 2nd dog - 12/Sep/10
brian watson - 2nd dnf - 05/Sep/10 with scott titt
Twisty - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10 with Will Smith
Hidden - Lead RP - 25/Aug/10
Hidden - 2nd dnf - 01/Aug/10
Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/10
LankyPaddy - 2nd rpt - 31/Jul/10 with Austen Clark
On Chungs gear. All out jug fest. Brilliant climb
peppermill - Lead β - 11/Jul/10
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/10 with federico
Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10
DavidR - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/10 with Holly Adamthwaite
Hidden - 2nd dog - 13/Jun/10
Tez29 - Lead O/S - 30/May/10 with Todd, Ivan
geddicakes - Lead O/S - 25/May/10 with Nat, Paul Runnif
pabbage - 2nd - 15/May/10
keefe - 15/May/10 with Tansy
Ferdia led initially but couldn't quite get the crux so came down and I led on through.
Andy Moles - Lead β - 23/Apr/10 with Ferdia
ferdia - 2nd - 23/Apr/10 with Andy
First E2, really nice route, definitly recommend it.
Kyle Rance - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/10 with Ben Watts
vanderz - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Graham Plant
After leading it I then seconded it, Ste couldn't make crux move.
leon - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/10 with Steven Davidson
Hidden - Lead - 09/Apr/10
mic_b - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/10
Failed to commit first time, too tired second. A couple of good falls. Easy E2, one to come back to...
Jon_Warner - Lead dnf - 21/Mar/10 with mic_b
Andy Peak 1 - Lead - 06/Mar/10
Fell on the crux, got it 2nd go. My first E2.
nickmattia - Lead dog - 2010 with ryan jones
Hidden - 2nd dog - 2010
Much faffing and wrming of hands pre crux, up and down a bit, then went for it. I'm not sure about this being easy E2. It required much faith in marginal finger holds (inc during foothold loss) followed by deep breathing and intense staying power to reach sanctuary. Very fulfilling experience, loved it!
Cragrat Rich - Lead O/S - 05/Dec/09
Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/Dec/09
Can do - didn't have the balls!
Simon Davenport - Lead dnf - 15/Nov/09 with Brian and Dave
Alan James - UKC and UKH - Lead - 18/Oct/09 with Sarah Stirling, Mick Ryan
david morse - 2nd O/S - 12/Sep/09 with mikey em BB andy G anna x2
Joe went up and backed off. I nearly had it, but didn't commit. Then Joe went again, fell a few times then got it. I seconded cleanly.
HIGHTOWER - 2nd - 23/Aug/09 with Joe (Hotrock)
Hidden - Lead - 13/Aug/09
Ben1983 - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/09
The reach is harder than it would presumably have been had the broken flake still been there - you have to go up to the hold out left which is 3 or 4 inches further - but I could still just about reach at 5ft11 with short arms. You cant do it now (at least not unless youre much stronger than me on crappy sandy sidepulls) in the way the guy is doing it in the old photo on here. Felt right at 5c.
Si dH - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/09 with Gary
London Luke - Lead O/S - Jul/09
smudge - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/09 with Dan Poulter
djp1 - 2nd - 24/Jun/09 with smudge
Fell, pulled the ropes and did it clean. That's a *long* reach to a not good hold! Easy other than that though.
thomasadixon - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09 with Becca
Slab at the bottom is relatively easy, some good gear in the break, then a huge reach. Found a different way from the humongous span of Mike, moved slightly further, got a decent undercut with right hand, then swing up and left to the almost invisible but good hold, feet up and get other hand on the good flake. I can imagine it being much easier when the ear was there! Finish wasn't too bad, will definitely lead this sometime.
Reaver2k - 2nd O/S - 13/Jun/09 with Michael Watson
Went up this with tom again soon after.
Reaver2k - 2nd O/S - 13/Jun/09 with Tom Dixon
JPGR - Lead O/S - Jun/09 with Yvette
got the crux second time
hash - 2nd dog - 25/May/09 with Chris Wyatt
Apparently 'ear' hold came off in June 2007 leaving a smaller hold.
max_chan - Lead O/S - 25/May/09 with Lou
Jim Slater - 2nd O/S - 25/May/09 with Trevor Wilson
If the ear came off, it left a positive crimp. Good route, easy for E2 probably E1
chris wyatt - Lead O/S - 25/May/09 with hash popat
Left foot slipped on crux. Pulled ropes and lead clean second go. Annoyed as it's far easier than Nemmes Pas Harry which went fine.
Dave Foster - Lead rpt - 25/Apr/09 with Andy
the "ear" move has become harder as the lower flake has snapped off! - more of a lay away crimp for the short (like me) before the security of the upper flake can be gained
Woodiee - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Tom Pitchforth
Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/09
keith leonard - Lead dog - 2009
Hidden - 2009
jimbonfire - Lead O/S - 28/Sep/08
Sankey - 2nd O/S - 31/Aug/08 with Luke
chris sm - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/08 with Pippa Froggatt
Tim M - Lead - 23/Aug/08 with Emma
climbergg - 2nd - 23/Aug/08 with cheesesarnie
tlr - Lead - 24/Jun/08 with James Turnbull
mattyork2 - Lead O/S - 11/May/08 with Rebecca Ellis
tom.e - Lead O/S - 08/May/08 with Claire
E1 5b and then only for a couple of moves. Nice route though. The crucial small flake above the roof seems to have been larger in the past!
Misha - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/08
Hidden - Lead dnf - 12/Feb/08
lowersharpnose - Lead - 01/Jan/08
Hidden - 2008
Hidden - 2008
drysori - Lead - 2008
Pleasant well-pro E1.
Owen W-G - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/07 with Max
Hidden - Lead - 07/Oct/07
hailtryfan - 2nd O/S - Oct/07 with AJ Bowley
Pythonist - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/07 with Chris Jennions
Hidden - Sep/07
Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/07
BallsofBritishSteel - TR dog - 04/Aug/07 with Charles
Hidden - 2nd rpt - 01/Aug/07
tricky move over bulge, attempted the roof to find hardly any solid rock.
Alex Mason - Lead O/S - 08/Jul/07 with mick radford
Mick r - 2nd - 08/Jul/07 with Cragdog al
bullwinkle - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/07 with Paul
Tony Little - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/07 with skydivingbluecat
Daniel Armitage - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/07
Overgraded, should be E1 5B
craig d - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/07 with Simon Kincaid
Joe Dove - 2nd - 05/May/07 with kev
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/07 with John Nightingale
Hidden - Lead rpt - 14/Apr/07
Actually seconded twice, once with Nick and once with James. The long move doesn't get any easier second time round.
adam carless - 2nd O/S - 14/Apr/07 with James Rowe
It's a long way for shorties!
Luke Brooks - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/07 with Kim Hayward
seemore - Lead dog - Mar/07 with Jim Dale
Hidden - 2007
John Lisle - 2007
John Lisle - 2007
Peakpdr - Lead rpt - 2007
Hidden - Lead - 29/Oct/06
Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/06
clean enough climb, but having only really led v-diffs out door, id have tae say it was flamin pumpy
fatbuoybazza - 2nd dog - Oct/06 with james
stuart100 - Lead O/S - 10/Sep/06 with Ian Brown
Hidden - Lead - 02/Sep/06
Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/06
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Aug/06
Mark Riley - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/06 with Pete Oates
maybe_si - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/06 with danger john
jchenoweth - 2nd O/S - 15/Jul/06 with maybe_si
Joe Costello - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/06 with Matt
SMc - Lead O/S - Jul/06 with Anne
Ram MkiV - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/06 with Tom anfd Mike
cem - Lead rpt - 04/Jun/06 with Geoff, Frances Taylor
Rich Malcolm - Lead O/S - 31/May/06 with Rick Asher, Mick Brohan
Had seconded Dan 10/04/06
AJ007 - Lead rpt - 10/Apr/06 with Mike H
dan gibson - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/06 with AJ
dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - Apr/06 with Dad
Boy - 2006
mattwyles1 - 2nd - 2006
my first e2
Nicos - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/05 with mick b
Hidden - 2nd - 23/Aug/05
Hidden - TR - 13/Jul/05
cem - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/05 with Miles Butteriss
Skell - Lead O/S - Jun/05
SteveM - Lead RP - 08/May/05 with Steve Foster
Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/05
Coel Hellier - Lead - 2005
Chris M - 2005
First E2 :o)
LankyPaddy - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/04 with Chris Schurch
Hidden - Lead - 09/Oct/04
Tim Sparrow - 2004 with Pete Robinson
chris warner - 2nd - Oct/03 with james raitt
Hidden - Lead dog - 30/Mar/03
Hidden - Lead - 30/Mar/03
Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Mar/03
Hidden - 2002
Hidden - Lead - 28/Oct/01
Hidden - Lead - 01/Oct/00
goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/00 with Roy Thomas
sadams - Lead - 20/Feb/00 with Tom Briggs
Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - 2000
Hidden - Lead dog - 2000
tuftynick - Lead - 2000
Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/99
Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/99
My first E1, turned out to be E2 :)
SteveRi - Lead - Aug/98
Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 15/Feb/98 with Tom Briggs
ChrisJD - Lead - 26/Oct/97
Hidden - Lead - 28/Oct/95
John Southworth - Lead - 08/Jul/95
Roget - Lead O/S - 20/Mar/95
Hidden - Solo O/S - Feb/94
D Tempest - Lead - 24/Oct/93 with Michelle, Rick
Hidden - Lead - 10/Oct/93
Chris Reid - Lead O/S - 07/Feb/93 with Oliver Allen
shark - Lead - 09/May/87 with Phill Dickens
Hidden - Lead - 18/Jul/82