Randall and Whittaker - In Europe and Going Wide

by Jack Geldard - Editor - UKC Jul/2010
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+Tom Randall, in bulk, on Thai boxing, 202 kb
Tom Randall, in bulk, on Thai boxing
UKC News, Jul 2010
© Whittaker/Randall Collection

+Pete Whittaker with a double fist-stack on Thai boxing, 178 kb
Pete Whittaker with a double fist-stack on Thai boxing
UKC News, Jul 2010
© Whittaker/Randall Collection
Somebody gave them a passport. It probably wasn't a good idea. Now Tom Randall and Pete Whittaker have hit Europe and are on the hunt. First stop: Thai Boxing.

Thai Boxing is a route with some history. Hidden up on the hillside above Vallorcine, close to Chamonix, this diminutive offwidth packs a big punch. Even more so now the bolts have been chopped out.

Local resident and crag developer Jon de Montjoye told the story of the route on the UKC forums back in 2009:

"About 15 years ago I bolted a good but small crag here in Vallorcine. I never publicised it as it's on private land. It has half a dozen routes from 6a+ - 8a+. At the left end is a grossly overhanging off width. A few years later an American by the name of Craig Luebben (who invented the 'Big Bro' expanding tube chock) came along and climbed it using his tube chocks, and grading it 5.12c - or 7b+ in French Francs. Just a few years ago a marauding team of climbers from Argentiere discovered the crag and the 'unclimbed' (read unbolted) crack, which they bolted and laid siege to it. I'm not sure if anyone has managed to climb it since. It is now equipped with loooong slings so it can be frigged easily. A grade of 8a+ has been put about!"

Big cracks need big friends! Pete Whittaker having fun on Thai Boxing., 131 kb
Big cracks need big friends! Pete Whittaker having fun on Thai Boxing.
UKC News, Jul 2010
© Whittaker/Randall Collection

+Tom Randall high on Thai Boxing, 188 kb
Tom Randall high on Thai Boxing
UKC News, Jul 2010
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After Craig's original ascent Stevie Haston made a repeat and he commented on the route in another UKC forum thread from 2009:

"Thai Boxing took Craig three days (I remember) and took him longer than Trench Warfare which is given 5.12d so really the 5.12b Craig gave it was a sandbag (I told him off, but boys will be boys). I did Thai Boxing twice and I find it hard, my fists are smaller than Craig's and he made the transition to chicken wing later. It doesn't matter that it was harder! Anyway the guy that bolted it did wrong, I told him at the time, and I told him they would be taken out (they should be taken out as the bolts are in the way in a climbing sense), it would have been okay but I think this route should be returned to it's natural state as a memorial to Craig. I know of a few people who want to make the pilgrimage to do this crack, one from the States, and it would be much nicer for them to have the crack clean and gnarly. I am not interested in bolt wars just the memory."

Tom Randall and Pete Whittaker have just repeated the route using large friends for protection and the bolts have now been chopped, restoring the route to its original state.

Tom rated the crack at about E7 and gave UKC some beta:

"We tried it with our good old favourite "invert" but it back-fired as it's too flared on the edge of the crack. Had to resort to straight in old fashioned arm-barring and knee bars. Did manage to swing a quick foot above the head move in the middle just for a rest, but very traditional in style overall. The crux is fairly low down, but the route is really sustained overall, with a really good nausea factor. The top-out consists of a filthy squeeze chimney, which just adds to the experience as you know that any of those bolt clipping fairies would have clipped the lower-off just before that and not even topped the route out properly!"

Tom and Pete are continuing their fetish-quest on the continent and can be currently found hanging upside down by their feet somewhere rather uncomfortable.

  • For a discussion on Thai Boxing, including the removal of the bolts - see this current UKC Forum Thread.

If seen do not approach. They are arm-barred and dangerous..., 168 kb
If seen do not approach. They are arm-barred and dangerous...
UKC News, Jul 2010
© Whittaker/Randall Collection

+The misplaced bolts from Thai Boxing., 112 kb
The misplaced bolts from Thai Boxing.
© jon, Jul 2010


Tom Randall is sponsored by Wild Country

Pete Whittaker is sponsored by Patagonia , Five Ten and Wild Country


* Forums ( Read More... | 37 comments, 23 Aug 2010 )
As Derbyshire Ben observes, very well argued. You nearly had me agreeing with you! Except that the thick carpet of moss that is (now) at the foot of Thai B is whitness to the number of ascents that route HASN'T had over...
jon - 03 Aug 2010

Ok, just going to write a quick reply as firstly, I'm more bothered about climbing outside that getting into internet debates (please feel free to call or email me if you really need to talk about any issues in earnest)...
TomPR - 03 Aug 2010

Me edgy ; o ) Very! I agree. It's often used as a justification to retrobolt gear routes. This has been done in the UK. Old climbers who put up first ascents 40 years ago are often 'visited' by those infected...
Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com - 02 Aug 2010

Hi Mick Now don't get all edgy on me. I never suggested that UKC was involved in some masterplan to strip bolts on the continent, get easily researched news' items and promote their advertisers' products. I suppose...
nb - 02 Aug 2010

It's OK. Read Royal Robbins, and his great philosopy, of improving on a first ascent as regards style and even protection. I'm sure you have. This off-width can still be climbed by locals, it hasn't been stolen, they...
Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com - 02 Aug 2010

Hi Jon That's exactly what I understood. I knew you had nothing to do with stripping the bolts but I got the feeling that you approved. That's fine by me. God wouldn't it be boring if everybody thought like I did. Vive...
nb - 01 Aug 2010

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