In reply to petrochemicals:
> As for the Patagonia DAS it seems to have gone the way of the karrrimor, no longer avaliable, there was one place in the states at 350 quid, so tack on an import charge and your pushing 500 unfortunately
Patagonia is like that, most likely the DAS will be back in a few years (if not already next fall). That said, I do know for a fact that a local (Finnish) shop had them in Blue for 150 Eur. No E-shop though. Perhaps lookin' around for the DAS is vise, in fact callin' the Patagucci outlet in London might be adviced...
Ps. Patagucci still seems to sell it:
http://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-das-parka/84102.html
As for Alpkit having velcro cuffs? Did it change as the Ohiro had elastics last time I looked (which is why I omitted it... I want them oversized cuffs with velcro tabs, not elastics).
Post edited at 05:54