In reply to mark s:
> just seen someone grade a route e0 whats going on there.is this something hvs climbers have invented bacause they cant do an e1
I sort of gave it as the grade on the names of some photos from Brimham Rocks (I can't recall if they were nominated as E0 initially). They were of the Smartie Tube. It seemed appropriate. You'd never give them a climbing grade but it looks like a hell of a struggle.
In earlier times I guess we'd have just called them VDiff. But then nobody would have bothered with them. E0 sounds like something to aspire to, except once you're there you'll wonder. E9 climbers can struggle on E0s. VDiff leaders may sail up them. They're the ultimate equaliser in climbing - the grade that isn't a number.
Well, that's my line, anyway.
Charles