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All,
My wife and I are in the market for a new vaccum cleaner. Any recommendations from the UKC population - Dyson? Hoover? any others?
Thanks,
Nic
My wife and I are in the market for a new vaccum cleaner. Any recommendations from the UKC population - Dyson? Hoover? any others?
Thanks,
Nic
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In reply to Nic M:
Meile cat and dog , the only vac I often have to vent to reduce the power.
Found Vax and Dyson useless in comparison.
Meile cat and dog , the only vac I often have to vent to reduce the power.
Found Vax and Dyson useless in comparison.
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In reply to Rick Graham:
Yes, Dysons are very over rated in my experience. I had one and it was a big disappointment. Started falling to bits not long after I got it and it never really picked up any more gubbings than any other vacuum I've had that cost a quarter of the price.
> Found Dyson useless in comparison.
Yes, Dysons are very over rated in my experience. I had one and it was a big disappointment. Started falling to bits not long after I got it and it never really picked up any more gubbings than any other vacuum I've had that cost a quarter of the price.
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In reply to Nic M:
small area in need of frequent cleaning - the gtech might be worth considering
http://www.gtech.co.uk/cordless-vacuum-cleaners/airram-vacuum-cleaner.html?...
small area in need of frequent cleaning - the gtech might be worth considering
http://www.gtech.co.uk/cordless-vacuum-cleaners/airram-vacuum-cleaner.html?...
In reply to Nic M:
They all suck.
But Henry and Hetty suck better than the rest.
When it comes to value for money.
Friendly,hardworking ,loyal ,nice eyes; what more does one want?
They all suck.
But Henry and Hetty suck better than the rest.
When it comes to value for money.
Friendly,hardworking ,loyal ,nice eyes; what more does one want?
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In reply to Nic M:
Not a Dyson!
Dyson are great at developing complex solutions to problems they created:
-Fancy ball thing: Well you wouldn't need to improve the mobility if you hadn't built a vacuum cleaner that weighed half a ton with a handle made of Al dente spaghetti.
-No loss of suction: Because even if the filters block it makes sod all difference to the horrid airflow through those over profiled tubes.
If Dyson worked in any other industry can you imagine the chaos?
... James Dyson super vet (does a great job of stitching up animals he ran over).
Not a Dyson!
Dyson are great at developing complex solutions to problems they created:
-Fancy ball thing: Well you wouldn't need to improve the mobility if you hadn't built a vacuum cleaner that weighed half a ton with a handle made of Al dente spaghetti.
-No loss of suction: Because even if the filters block it makes sod all difference to the horrid airflow through those over profiled tubes.
If Dyson worked in any other industry can you imagine the chaos?
... James Dyson super vet (does a great job of stitching up animals he ran over).
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In reply to Reach>Talent:
If you're interested I'm selling my old Hoover. Well, it's been collecting dust.
(Credits: Tim Vine)
Ps agree with Henry
If you're interested I'm selling my old Hoover. Well, it's been collecting dust.
(Credits: Tim Vine)
Ps agree with Henry
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In reply to Queenie:
Get a sebo bs36 comfort from Vaclensa after signing on for their website and for £240 you get a hoover that sooks up everything. Weird retro styling might put you off.
2p
Tom
Get a sebo bs36 comfort from Vaclensa after signing on for their website and for £240 you get a hoover that sooks up everything. Weird retro styling might put you off.
2p
Tom
In reply to Nic M:
Ever thought of a second-hand Dyson?
I bought my first Dyson 01 from a Car Boot for £20. I had no idea how old it was but it worked faithfully for 10+ years. Sadly the motor died and it was too expensive to repair, so I got a Dyson Animal DC19 (Discontinued). The shop even bought my old Dyson from me. I'm still amazed at how much crap this thing can shift from the carpets.
Dyson must be doing something right if there is a healthy second-hand market for their kit.
Ever thought of a second-hand Dyson?
I bought my first Dyson 01 from a Car Boot for £20. I had no idea how old it was but it worked faithfully for 10+ years. Sadly the motor died and it was too expensive to repair, so I got a Dyson Animal DC19 (Discontinued). The shop even bought my old Dyson from me. I'm still amazed at how much crap this thing can shift from the carpets.
Dyson must be doing something right if there is a healthy second-hand market for their kit.
In reply to Nic M:
Dysons are fantastic if you mostly vacuum up dust (would not make a good shop vac). They are not quite as bombproof as a Miele (just treat it with care like anyone should - don't smack it regularly into the wall, vacuum up screws/glass), but you won't need to keep buying bags or filters.
In terms of "power" - that's only one half of the equation. You can have the most powerful vacuum on Earth (so powerful it tears the stitching), but if it cannot filter the fine particules - then all its doing is spraying them back out again. Those cheap Vaxes with 2.4kW motors (for that matter such a claim makes no recourse to motor efficiency). do exactly this. Some people (myself included) would get a big headache when using a poor filtering vacuum from breathing in all the fine particles.
Be wary of claims like "filters 99.9% of dust particles" - because the 0.1% it can't filter are usually the bad stuff you really do want to filter.
Dysons are fantastic if you mostly vacuum up dust (would not make a good shop vac). They are not quite as bombproof as a Miele (just treat it with care like anyone should - don't smack it regularly into the wall, vacuum up screws/glass), but you won't need to keep buying bags or filters.
In terms of "power" - that's only one half of the equation. You can have the most powerful vacuum on Earth (so powerful it tears the stitching), but if it cannot filter the fine particules - then all its doing is spraying them back out again. Those cheap Vaxes with 2.4kW motors (for that matter such a claim makes no recourse to motor efficiency). do exactly this. Some people (myself included) would get a big headache when using a poor filtering vacuum from breathing in all the fine particles.
Be wary of claims like "filters 99.9% of dust particles" - because the 0.1% it can't filter are usually the bad stuff you really do want to filter.
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In reply to Nic M:
Recently replaced a heavy 13-year old Dyson with a Miele. Yes, it needs bags but it compresses the dust so efficiently that you don't have to change them very often at all - I'm still on my first bag after 4 months or so and the gauge is showing it's still got plenty of capacity. It's light and powerful and QUIET which after my last vacuum cleaner is fab! The Dyson used to scare my toddler but she helps with the cleaning now
Recently replaced a heavy 13-year old Dyson with a Miele. Yes, it needs bags but it compresses the dust so efficiently that you don't have to change them very often at all - I'm still on my first bag after 4 months or so and the gauge is showing it's still got plenty of capacity. It's light and powerful and QUIET which after my last vacuum cleaner is fab! The Dyson used to scare my toddler but she helps with the cleaning now
In reply to The Lemming:
I'm pretty happy with my Dyson DC01, like you the motor went after about 15 years but I found another on ebay for £10. It's nearly 20 years old now, it sucks things off the floor (including dog hair) and I don't have to buy bags....never really understood the Dyson hating brigade, what more do people want from a vac?
I'm pretty happy with my Dyson DC01, like you the motor went after about 15 years but I found another on ebay for £10. It's nearly 20 years old now, it sucks things off the floor (including dog hair) and I don't have to buy bags....never really understood the Dyson hating brigade, what more do people want from a vac?
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In reply to Sharp:
....never really understood the Dyson hating brigade, what more do people want from a vac?
I'm tempted to guess that like most products these days, some work OK, and some are utter dogs for some reason or another.... We've just ditched a Dyson that never impressed. It was OK for first few months (but not life changingly good as many seem to claim or have indeed experienced)... and after that it got steadily more useless. Its plasticky, bulky and despite lots of careful cleaning of filters and so on its hopeless. What use is bagless if it doesn't pick up and needs its filters cleaned (not that cleaning them has ever made any difference).
So - having looked at loads of reviews of all sorts of things I'm coming to conclusion that bar 100% useless cheap gadgets which are genuinely 100% rubbish, most other consumer items now are badly and cheaply made and its luck of draw if you get one that's good or bad. Look at reviews for most things and you'll find on so called 4 to 5 star happy ratings at least 20% of people stating doesn't work/fell to bits/wore out etc etc. Reviews are also skewed by people reviewing when bought, praising price/delivery, how it was out of box etc and then not going back in 4 weeks or 6 months to say it stopped working, wasn't terribly good etc. Appreciate you have experience of being happy long term so that's not the case here but much of above holds true.... I just think with dodgy cheap manufacture outsourced to wherever that quality control goes, that the things are made as cheap as possible and the result is real variability in quality and reliability from 'great' to 'rubbish' in same product.
As an alternative - I have an ISE washing machine... 10 year warranty, everything is replaceable and recyclable and it runs for example on Volvo Truck bearings, rather than cheap nasty plastic ones. That's a product built to last and built to be recycled at end of life (metal weights rather than concrete on basis the metal recycles more effectively rather than just being landfill) etc.
Still don't know if I've solved vacuum issue but we went with Henry and so far am very happy at about a third of the cost of a modest Dyson. We shall see in 1 3 and 5 years hopefully.....
....never really understood the Dyson hating brigade, what more do people want from a vac?
I'm tempted to guess that like most products these days, some work OK, and some are utter dogs for some reason or another.... We've just ditched a Dyson that never impressed. It was OK for first few months (but not life changingly good as many seem to claim or have indeed experienced)... and after that it got steadily more useless. Its plasticky, bulky and despite lots of careful cleaning of filters and so on its hopeless. What use is bagless if it doesn't pick up and needs its filters cleaned (not that cleaning them has ever made any difference).
So - having looked at loads of reviews of all sorts of things I'm coming to conclusion that bar 100% useless cheap gadgets which are genuinely 100% rubbish, most other consumer items now are badly and cheaply made and its luck of draw if you get one that's good or bad. Look at reviews for most things and you'll find on so called 4 to 5 star happy ratings at least 20% of people stating doesn't work/fell to bits/wore out etc etc. Reviews are also skewed by people reviewing when bought, praising price/delivery, how it was out of box etc and then not going back in 4 weeks or 6 months to say it stopped working, wasn't terribly good etc. Appreciate you have experience of being happy long term so that's not the case here but much of above holds true.... I just think with dodgy cheap manufacture outsourced to wherever that quality control goes, that the things are made as cheap as possible and the result is real variability in quality and reliability from 'great' to 'rubbish' in same product.
As an alternative - I have an ISE washing machine... 10 year warranty, everything is replaceable and recyclable and it runs for example on Volvo Truck bearings, rather than cheap nasty plastic ones. That's a product built to last and built to be recycled at end of life (metal weights rather than concrete on basis the metal recycles more effectively rather than just being landfill) etc.
Still don't know if I've solved vacuum issue but we went with Henry and so far am very happy at about a third of the cost of a modest Dyson. We shall see in 1 3 and 5 years hopefully.....
In reply to Nic M:
Just had to skip my Henry, after 25 years. It was finally clapped out.
I have to admit I replaced it with a £50 Zanussi from Amazon. Samll/ light/ quiet/ Cheap
For the main house we have an old upright Dyson. 15 years old and good for carpets, nor so good for hard floors. (Did you know that Dyson will send a chap to overhaul your machine for about £60 + parts - it's like new afterwards!
Just had to skip my Henry, after 25 years. It was finally clapped out.
I have to admit I replaced it with a £50 Zanussi from Amazon. Samll/ light/ quiet/ Cheap
For the main house we have an old upright Dyson. 15 years old and good for carpets, nor so good for hard floors. (Did you know that Dyson will send a chap to overhaul your machine for about £60 + parts - it's like new afterwards!
In reply to Nic M:
Bags are much better at actually sucking up dirt than bagless.
Panasonic make good bagged Vacs that aren't really expensive like Miele etc.
Bags are much better at actually sucking up dirt than bagless.
Panasonic make good bagged Vacs that aren't really expensive like Miele etc.
Post edited at 15:53
In reply to blurty:
A few years ago our 01 died after I sucked up a load of plaster dust with it, rang the number on it to say how rubbish it was and how it had just died (and maybe I'd sucked up a load of plaster dust). They said that would kill it and unfortunately there was no service centre in my area so would 8am the next morning be alright for an engineer to drop round. Hell yes, anyway 8am next morning this guy in purple overalls rocks up having texted to say he was on his way, rolls out a little carpet with dyson on it, strips the thing down, replaces the motor, puts it back together, vacs up his little rug, rolls it up and is gone. I'm left standing there wondering if I'd imagined the whole thing.
Cheers
Toby
A few years ago our 01 died after I sucked up a load of plaster dust with it, rang the number on it to say how rubbish it was and how it had just died (and maybe I'd sucked up a load of plaster dust). They said that would kill it and unfortunately there was no service centre in my area so would 8am the next morning be alright for an engineer to drop round. Hell yes, anyway 8am next morning this guy in purple overalls rocks up having texted to say he was on his way, rolls out a little carpet with dyson on it, strips the thing down, replaces the motor, puts it back together, vacs up his little rug, rolls it up and is gone. I'm left standing there wondering if I'd imagined the whole thing.
Cheers
Toby
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In reply to Ferret:
I don't know about Dyson hating, but after buying one, I won't be buying another. Over engineered, fragile and in the case of the model I've got, useless for cleaning the stairs. So much so that I have a cheap cylinder vac just to do the stairs.
I don't know about Dyson hating, but after buying one, I won't be buying another. Over engineered, fragile and in the case of the model I've got, useless for cleaning the stairs. So much so that I have a cheap cylinder vac just to do the stairs.
In reply to Nic M:
We've had a Henry for 15 years. My wife ran over it in the drive way once when we were moving house, I've dropped it down the stairs once, and one time it actually did stop working, but I took it to bits following some instructions I found online (from a tech savvy B&B operator who uses them) , rubbed a couple of contacts clean, put it back together again and Hey Presto (to my considerable surprise)!, it worked again, and still does. If it dies, I'll buy another.
We've had a Henry for 15 years. My wife ran over it in the drive way once when we were moving house, I've dropped it down the stairs once, and one time it actually did stop working, but I took it to bits following some instructions I found online (from a tech savvy B&B operator who uses them) , rubbed a couple of contacts clean, put it back together again and Hey Presto (to my considerable surprise)!, it worked again, and still does. If it dies, I'll buy another.
In reply to Nic M:
I've got 2 Dysons you can have for nothing. They're absolute shite. Break after a year and aren't that much better in the first plce.
I've got 2 Dysons you can have for nothing. They're absolute shite. Break after a year and aren't that much better in the first plce.
In reply to Nic M:
Henry cleaners seem really robust and easily rebuildable, they're perhaps not very refined and can feel heavy, but they can take a lot of abuse and nothing much seems to go wrong with them, I guess you could say they don't give as much of a 'nice user experience' when using them as others might, but they do the job ok. My Mum's Henry lasted for ages before my Dad gave it to his office cleaner to use, I don't know what became of it after that.
I like my Miele vacuum cleaner, it's nice and powerful and adjustable so you don't end up sucking up the carpets, but some people really don't rate them as being reliable. The vacuum specialist in Sheffield who has been around for about 20 years thinks they're good, though.
Henry cleaners seem really robust and easily rebuildable, they're perhaps not very refined and can feel heavy, but they can take a lot of abuse and nothing much seems to go wrong with them, I guess you could say they don't give as much of a 'nice user experience' when using them as others might, but they do the job ok. My Mum's Henry lasted for ages before my Dad gave it to his office cleaner to use, I don't know what became of it after that.
I like my Miele vacuum cleaner, it's nice and powerful and adjustable so you don't end up sucking up the carpets, but some people really don't rate them as being reliable. The vacuum specialist in Sheffield who has been around for about 20 years thinks they're good, though.
Post edited at 20:46
In reply to gribble:
I'm wondering if I'm sounding pretentious talking about a 'nice user experience' to do with vacuum cleaners.
I'm wondering if I'm sounding pretentious talking about a 'nice user experience' to do with vacuum cleaners.
In reply to gribble:
Same here, but the wife said "I'll ask the cleaning lady"
Am I giving her access to too much money?
> This is an alien subject. I'm married. It happens magically.
Same here, but the wife said "I'll ask the cleaning lady"
Am I giving her access to too much money?
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