In reply to UKC News: So....DB best allrounder in UK? He has routes that are in the E8 & 9 yet to be repeated, has some impressive Winter routes to his name, East Buttress and Gimmer spring to mind, put amazing Sport Numbers up some years ago, and yet isn't really a full time climber......he does have a day job by all accounts...Raw talent? Good genes? (uncle Bill & Grand daddy)..... Anyone better than Dave?? Really?? I recon he gets my vote!! Good on ya Dave!