In reply to Andy Peak 1:
Look, I'm all for trad routes staying trad routes but if someone thinks it's fine to use pegs until the rock is damaged enough to take a nut, then why should you get a say how I damage the rock? People get all high and mighty about bolts whilst simultaneously blowing out flakes with cams, polishing holds to mirrors, and creating peg scars (apparently thats fine now?).
I don't have a problem with cam hooks, or someone passively placing a knifeblade, but if we can wear out the rock until our trad gear fits...
> If people place and remove pegs correctly the placement wears to take normal trad gear anyway.
...then maybe we should just stick a bolt in it. I'm not pro-bolting, I just don't see the logic in your argument.