In reply to es:
> (In reply to Mick Ryan - UKClimbing.com)
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> Can you imagine the glasgow lot keeping quiet...
You have to consider this. The second ascent of Rhapsody (whatever grade it turns out to be) will be big news.
There is a film to be made, photographs to sell, copy to run, sponsors to keep happy, and adverts to be sold on the back of that.
Also consider that three of the UK's top climbers have just visited and attempted this route: they have very strong opinions about this route. One came quite close.
E11, even if that grade doesn't actually exist, is a brand with merchandise to sell.
Maybe the owners of the E11 franchise and those who want a piece of thefranchise are keeping mum for a while, protecting their investment.
Mick