In reply to Dave D: Hmmm, have to agree with Andy about the overgraded crypt stuff (he's right you know, he can't climb V3 let alone V8...). However the routes are generally well set if constantly undergraded above the 6c level. There are some 7a's and 7a+'s that should really be given at least 7b if not 7b+ to be honest. Not up the usual standard for Jamie unfortunately and I reckon he's out to deliberately undergrade. I'll have to kick his sweaty little arse next time I see him.
Anyway, much as I love the wall, I think some work is needed on the harder routes to balance them out, reduce their over cruxy nature and get the grades right. I mean I know people who regularly climb 8a who have failed to even do the moves on a 7a thats up at the moment.
There, that's my rant for now Dave. And to be positive, it is a brilliant wall with some great routes at the moment up the back steep wall.