Derbyshire > Froggatt Edge >
 
Broken Crack** HVS 5a

Adjacent Climbs
<< Left Broken
 
Sickle Buttress >>
[Me climbing Broken Crack, Froggatt Edge, with Dave C belaying, 3 kb]10m. The jamming crack is best approached by a swift layback. © ROCKFAX
FA. Joe Brown 1948

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Eastern Grit Jamming, Full of Myself - Johnny's Book namecheck, 50 cracks to Squamish, Froggatt to Black Rocks (BMC) - The Grade List, Peak Gritstone S-HVS **+.

Photo: Me climbing Broken Crack, Froggatt Edge, with Dave C belaying © Markbot
View all 3 photos or Submit a new photo of this climb.

PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 635 logbooks, and on 13 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead dnf - 07/Sep/14

WillDoyle - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/14

TobyA - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/14 with Tony B

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Aug/14

TonyB - 2nd - 30/Aug/14 with Toby

Chris M - AltLd - 29/Aug/14 with Dan G

Chris M - AltLd - 23/Aug/14 with Dan G

Matt Cooke - Lead rpt - 09/Aug/14 with Rosh

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 03/Aug/14

GLO - Lead dog - 03/Aug/14 with Keith P

got stop half way up at the break and couldn't make any headway
RUDIN.J.D.H - Lead dnf - 29/Jul/14 with Sam Rudin

Hardcore Pat - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/14 with Denny

garywong - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/14 with Chris Owens

Hidden - 2nd dog - 20/Jul/14

Andy Peak 1 - Solo - 14/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/14

dan_blair87 - 2nd O/S - 09/Jul/14

giuly - 2nd - 09/Jul/14 with Xose' Portela

mapperley samurai - Lead rpt - 09/Jul/14 with Dan Blair

Hard!
Steven Andrews - 28/Jun/14 with Arjan

Nice little route. Not sure about HVS, it's a crack with perfect jams. VS 4c I'd say.
PaulTanton - Solo O/S - 26/Jun/14

Drew Bennett - Lead dog - 11/Jun/14 with Clem

ClemB - Lead dog - 11/Jun/14

richardw87 - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/14 with Bert

Bertbee - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/14

quickdrawmcraw - Lead - 31/May/14 with hannah

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/May/14

Fierce and fantastic... rock hard, but not as hard as that first pitch of Valkyrie. Joe Brown was one tough nut. Loved it.
jimorothy - Lead - 18/May/14 with Scott Barnett

Puma - 2nd - 18/May/14 with Gav (YAC), Catherine (YAC), Karl (YAC), Justine

First attempt terrible. Fell off layback start and fell off rubbish jams further up. Tried again later and did start clean and romped up jams. Big grin :D
oddtoast - 2nd RP - 18/May/14 with Gav, Paul, CCC, Karl

nedthedustbin - Lead - 16/May/14

planetmarshall - Lead dnf - 05/May/14 with John Haddon

cragsman9000 - Lead dog - 04/May/14 with Neil

bob_cbr - 2nd dog - 04/May/14 with cragsman9000

daveclarke5 - 2nd - 04/May/14 with Jim

cem - Lead rpt - 04/May/14 with Chris Smith

Hidden - Lead rpt - 13/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/14

GLO - 2nd - 13/Apr/14 with Steve O'Rourke

Hard work!
Jamiet297 - Lead dog - 12/Apr/14 with Pete Callaghan

Committing start and unrelenting.
petecallaghan - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/14 with Jamie Trump

Chris M - AltLd - 11/Apr/14 with Mark H

Dan0Me - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/14 with Chris Hill

raymondlinklater - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/14 with Hazel Maclean

RyanOsborne - 2nd - 29/Mar/14

jshields - 2nd - 16/Mar/14 with Mike Lea, Paul Tretheway

Hidden - Lead dog - 15/Mar/14

spragglerocks - Lead β - 09/Mar/14 with James Hoyes, Rachel Batt

Hoyes - 2nd rpt - 09/Mar/14 with Rachael S, Rachel B

Batt - Lead dog - 09/Mar/14 with rachael spraggs, James Hoyes

Tough. Couldn't manage the hand jams in the upper crack.
Big Lee - Lead dnf - 08/Mar/14 with Mark Walker

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Jan/14

Alfie Conn - 2014

keith leonard - 2014

shaunhumphreys - Lead O/S - 04/Dec/13 with benkelsey

franhammond92 - Lead - 04/Dec/13

numb hands
benkelsey - 2nd O/S - 04/Dec/13 with Shaun Humphreys

Teappleby - 2nd - 24/Nov/13 with Emma Jackson, Calum Wadsworth, Micki Schobitz

Very nice route, but due to my inability to hand jam, the last meters required a rest.
MSchobitz - Lead dog - 24/Nov/13 with Tom, Calum

trev_f - 2nd O/S - 15/Nov/13

rich_hw - Lead rpt - 09/Nov/13 with Jim Slater

Went left due to pump and common sense. Pah!
davidalcock - Lead dnf - 06/Oct/13 with Ben, mapperley samurai

Great route and an excellent lesson in crack climbing using a variety of techniques. Good gear and bold in the upper section. Just keep going.
mapperley samurai - 2nd - 05/Oct/13 with David Alcock, Ben Moss

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/13

danm - Lead - 28/Sep/13 with Jake

tomthecoolperson - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/13 with Andrew

mjeffery - 2nd rpt - 12/Sep/13

edmitchell - Lead O/S - 08/Sep/13 with Emma Rowe, brmc members

Hidden - 2nd dog - 08/Sep/13

blackreaver - 2nd dog - 18/Aug/13 with Ben S, Kat

Hidden - Lead dog - 18/Aug/13

Hidden - Lead dog - 17/Aug/13

cathymiller - 2nd dog - 11/Aug/13 with Mike Peak

ashtond6 - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/13

alp79 - 2nd - 10/Aug/13 with Jonny Ashton

Matt Cooke - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/13 with Jonathan Thorpe

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Aug/13

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Aug/13

Hidden - Lead rpt - 27/Jul/13

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Jul/13

Horrible.
Merlin - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/13 with Polly Withers, Jimmy James

Bit of a lob from halfway up the jamming crack...lacking Joe Brown's technique and the required burly jamming fists, not really surprising
mattgrange - Lead dnf - 29/Jun/13

andy.smythe - Lead - 24/Jun/13

pete1993 - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/13 with Nigel Briggs

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Jun/13

john_ni - Lead - 06/Jun/13 with Mick Sissons (PCC)

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Jun/13

Clemmo - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/13 with Rich Purvis, Will Hawthorne

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 03/Jun/13

Clee - 2nd - 02/Jun/13 with Ian

this was not nice.
akhutton88 - 2nd dog - 02/Jun/13

hipyhop - 2nd dog - 27/May/13 with Ben

Bit of a nightmare to get started on. Yo-yoed up and down a fair amount placing gear (not loaded) to protect the layback start but once committed dispatched with minimal terrors; though tiring enough towards the end to consider making a dash to the top with no gear before sense kicked in. Felt like a tough VS as opposed to a HVS. Gear was ok for the layback which was a little bit intimidating though the cracks above gave solid jamming. But this is my first HVS!
MPSBunny - Lead O/S - 27/May/13 with Tom Luff

Good if you like cracks. I don't.
leeds_belle - Lead dog - 25/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/May/13

johnself1603 - Lead dog - 18/May/13

HVS 5a? No wonder I couldn't do it. Was fine (if strenuous) until the top crack, which completely kicked my arse.
Cruty Rammers - 2nd dog - 12/May/13

gw3285 - Lead - 12/May/13

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 06/May/13

Shaw Brown - Lead - 05/May/13 with Judith Neaves

Hung to try and get stuck cam. Good but awkward jamming.
Siderunner - 2nd - 05/May/13 with Andrew P

RFWilkie - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/13 with James

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/13

David Kay - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Simon Coldrick

Hidden - 2nd - 20/Apr/13

BMC guidebook says VS and it was harder than expected. I took a rest as very sustained and didn't rest before starting it.
alaster tonge - Lead dog - 20/Apr/13 with Assad Lahlou

Hidden - 20/Apr/13

Got my hand jam in the wrong place near the top and found my hand slipping out, then had some pebbles sticking into the back of my hand. Couldn't hang on.
Ant Man Bee - 2nd dog - 14/Apr/13 with Kirill Spiridonov

Kirill - Lead rpt - 14/Apr/13 with Paul Bolton

Hidden - 03/Mar/13

Lenny - Lead O/S - 02/Mar/13 with Mark (Jumper)

Hidden - 02/Feb/13

HVS for sure.
Hardonicus - 2nd O/S - 02/Feb/13 with nick a, Alex Thompson

Nic suffered his way up, but pretty easy once you know how.
Alex Thompson - TR O/S - 02/Feb/13 with Nick Allen, Haydn Martin

bwestwood - 2nd - 02/Feb/13

pie_eater_pete - 2nd rpt - 20/Jan/13

Craig McMahon - Solo - 12/Jan/13

Great battle. I win. Ha.
marcduhig - Lead O/S - 06/Jan/13 with Sexy Liz

got to 2nd break couldn't work out how to get onto top break!
Paul Hy - Lead dnf - 05/Jan/13 with Andy S

NickJH - 2013

AlanPedrick - 2013

Hidden - 2nd - 2013

Vincej - Lead - 2013 with Nevil

Stopsy - 2nd O/S - 18/Nov/12

g1m147 - Lead - 18/Nov/12 with Mick.

Was going to be my first HVS lead but I hung round too long, got super pumped, then lowered off my gear two metres from the top. Abbed for gear.
Mr Fuller - Lead dnf - 10/Nov/12 with Liz Smith

Tom Packer - 2nd dog - 28/Oct/12 with Lloyd

Had to rest before the final moves at the top. Got sweary
android_lloyd - Lead dog - 27/Oct/12 with Tom

A hard VS for us with little jamming experience
abtibbs - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/12

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Oct/12

HarryB - Lead dog - 21/Oct/12 with UBMC

zcsharp - 2nd - 21/Oct/12 with Ollie Stevens

Hidden - Lead rpt - 20/Oct/12

foot slipped about a foot off the floor, then climbed clean. Hard in the wet.
deacondeacon - Lead - 18/Oct/12

Need to practice my jamming!
Ly-Cilph - Lead dog - 06/Oct/12 with Rosa (CMC)

Twisty - Lead rpt - 06/Oct/12 with Nigel Stock

Hidden - Lead rpt - 29/Sep/12

Good jamming practice. :)
nick ferro - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/12 with Oli Birkill

A bit stiff for a warmup! Another Joe Brown jamfest
francois - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/12 with Chris

Not a good warm up! Typical Joe Brown jamming route that is harder than it looks! VS if you are a proficient jammer - HVS for the rest of us!
BelayBunney - 2nd O/S - 23/Sep/12 with Francois

Bit of a battle for VS, but safe enough
tallsop - Lead - 22/Sep/12 with Dave Saxby

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Sep/12

I psyched up to do the start, but it was over lots quicker than I thought.
Cake - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/12 with Hannah

Lay backed bottom and top, jammed middle.
Batt - Lead β - 02/Sep/12 with James Hoyes

CSmithy - Sep/12

Mike Bayley - 2nd dog - 11/Aug/12 with John Sellars

Rachel Slater - 2nd O/S - 09/Aug/12 with Olli Crudge

Another nemesis defeated.
Olli-C - Lead rpt - 09/Aug/12

Fragmod - 2nd - 05/Aug/12

tsl42 - Lead dog - 05/Aug/12 with Max, Gaz Hooson

Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 02/Aug/12 with Richard Williams

A good test of jamming technique. Just scraped a pass. Much grunting involved.
Andy Clarke - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/12 with Tim

Matt77 - 2nd - 28/Jul/12 with Amy Death, Shane

oodie72 - Lead dog - 21/Jul/12 with Alex Pond

MeMeMe - Lead - 15/Jul/12 with Amy

Layback was lovely. Jamming at the top just hurt.
67hours - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/12 with Steeeeeve

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/12

Piers Harley - 2nd - 01/Jul/12 with Paul Winder, Simon Clark

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Jul/12

soph - 2nd - 01/Jul/12 with Lindy Smith

davewsargent - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/12 with tony fidler

Barry D - 2nd - 04/Jun/12 with james hoyes

I still can't do this climb.
Hoyes - Lead dog - 04/Jun/12 with Barry D

999thAndy - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/12

lewiz - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Vlad Vishnyakov

first trad lead fall, and my ddmm size 6 wall nut is stuck near the top as testiment. may make it easier now as it is the most bombr pro you will ever come accross
Webster - Lead dnf - 02/Jun/12

Phoebus - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/12

Hidden - 2nd dog - 24/May/12

Graeme Hammond - 2nd rpt - 24/May/12 with john Bramwell

sambosanquet101 - Lead - 20/May/12 with Peter Darch

pldarch - 2nd - 20/May/12 with Sam

Tim Rodgers - 2nd - 13/May/12 with Mike Lea

Brutal! The start was very nice, but the upper jams felt insecure and crap :-) Well done for battling through it Al.
embob - 2nd - 12/May/12 with Alex

Thank goodness I can jam
katherinesydney - 2nd O/S - 12/May/12 with steve mount

Hidden - Lead - 12/May/12

Hidden - Lead - 12/May/12

Tony Holdsworth - Lead rpt - 11/May/12 with Simon Preston

Steve J T - 2nd - 06/May/12

Yeah so after being spat off ...... 4 times? i gave up as i couldn't get the layback start... found a weakness to improve upon
Killianmurphy - Lead dnf - 05/May/12

the start is defo 5a and can be well protected with a high nut that you can udge up to prior to the layback, this I think is VS 5a. The upper section is harder jamming than the file but has more rests, so overall about equivalent and either hard 4c or easy 5a. Overall I think VS 5a fits the climb if the file remains at VS 4c, although both are pumpy routes and I would happily see both at (mild) HVS.
CurlyStevo - Lead - May/12 with Rob

JEP - 2nd rpt - 17/Apr/12

nrhardy - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/12 with paul29uk

Hidden - Lead rpt - 15/Apr/12

BRoe - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/12 with Rob L

mark schramm - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/12

mes32 - 2nd dog - 24/Mar/12

will_benfold - Lead dog - 24/Mar/12 with Peter Hill, Mary

Hidden - Solo rpt - 11/Mar/12

Dave Rumney - Lead - 09/Mar/12 with Jim Jones

found the top very hard,especially when it started to rain and so got pumped and rested on gear!after sometime winging and moaning i finished of by laybacking and a high reach. It has to be said though...its defo a VS as there is more gear than you can shake a stick at,anyone who thinks its HVS needs to man up, that includes me too! fair play to Joe Brown who makes things like this look easy!
jon_gill1 - Lead dog - 27/Feb/12 with mike walton

harold walmsley - Lead rpt - 19/Feb/12 with Colin Struthers

Simon Allcock - 2nd O/S - 2012 with Mark

mchandy - Lead dog - 2012

SteveCarratt - 2nd - 2012

Hidden - 2012

CSmithy - 2012

Thinker01 - 2nd - 20/Nov/11

Pumped to fuck.
dr_botnik - Lead dog - 06/Nov/11

wi11 - 2nd β - 29/Oct/11 with Gwen L, Jez, Charlie T

chrisallan - 2nd O/S - 23/Oct/11

Led on Cameron's gear so was on top rope for the layback!
theotherpetehill - TR β - 23/Oct/11 with Cameron Hall, Chris Allan

cameron_hall - Lead dnf - 23/Oct/11 with Miles Horton

cameron_hall - 2nd dog - 23/Oct/11 with Peter Hill, Miles Horton

Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 22/Oct/11 with Alan

Hexman - Lead O/S - 22/Oct/11 with EdO

mark20 - Lead O/S - 21/Oct/11

jaimer - Lead - 24/Sep/11 with Mikael Collin

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/11

riff156 - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/11 with Jo Smith

Horrible thrutchy climbing. Not my best moment but Dan made it look easy.
wishicud climbHVS - 2nd O/S - 17/Aug/11 with Big Fat Dan, my wife, she is nice.

only thrutchy if you are a southern fairy and cant jam gritstone cracks!! (yorkshire-man my A!*)haha
bigdan050 - Lead - 17/Aug/11 with Tosh

peaker16 - Lead - 17/Aug/11

Chris M - Lead - 14/Aug/11 with trystan

easier than the file.
w.pettet-smith - Solo - Aug/11

tonanf - Aug/11 with Phil L

JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with johnpuddephatt, Nick

Nick1812P - 2nd O/S - 02/Jul/11 with Jamie

Hidden - Lead - Jul/11

dan gibson - 2nd rpt - 30/Jun/11 with helen gibson

ggflett - Lead dog - 27/Jun/11 with Carl Norman

knicos - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11 with Roshan

Hidden - Lead rpt - 09/Jun/11

I thought the top would be easier than the bottom, but I came off twice, just 2m from the top. Well protected, but a bit of a struggle. :/ Eatern Grit has it down as a VS 5a, so I thought I'd give it a go.
lanc23 - Lead dnf - 03/Jun/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/May/11

Hidden - 2nd - 28/May/11

Nick Rundall - Lead O/S - 24/May/11 with Russ Cunliffe, Adam Youd, Jon Taylor

gingerwolf - Lead O/S - 22/May/11

Getingold - 2nd - 19/May/11

Hidden - Lead - 19/May/11

schristophersmith - 2nd dog - 08/May/11 with silas feaver, Ian Redfern

althesin - 2nd - 08/May/11 with Reds, schristophersmith

Reds - Lead O/S - 08/May/11 with Althesin, schristophersmith

maherp - 2nd dnf - 29/Apr/11 with Ifor Williams

maherp - 2nd dnf - 29/Apr/11 with Ifor Williams

iforwms - Lead dnf - 29/Apr/11 with Phil Maher

TimPerkin - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/11 with Richard Harris

Alex.M-M. - Lead dog - 22/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Apr/11

v good
Rintygold - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/11

I really need to learn to jam! A good fight.
shugsan - Lead dog - 10/Apr/11

Lead DNF. Got totally pumped trying the final moves, couldn't do it even after resting on the rope. Seconded clean as I didn't have to mess with placing gear.
Monkey_Alan - 2nd - 10/Apr/11 with Max Streeton

Carol Goodall - 2nd - 10/Apr/11 with Jonnie Williams

jonnie3430 - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Carol

pretty hard for the VS 5a of the guidebook! but I guess if I was a peak Jammonster....
thomasaneurinsmith - 2nd - 10/Apr/11 with Euan Boyd

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Apr/11

Oceanic - 02/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11

pie_eater_pete - Lead - 25/Mar/11

mattorford - Lead - 23/Mar/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Mar/11

Mowglee - 2nd O/S - 19/Mar/11 with Tom Nichols

after watching my SPA trainer get a disco leg on the crux while solo was a little hesitant
benjamina bourbon biscuit - Lead - 18/Mar/11

psychicbread - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/11 with James

VS 4c in Mikes book (written when Fred Flintstone was a lad!). I decided not to tell Mike that the route w had been upgraded so he was doubly chuffed with his 1st HVS lead of the year! I will continue with this type of subterfuge until he is leading E5!
Pete Nugent - 2nd rpt - 08/Mar/11 with Mike Nugent (LC&CC)

Hidden - Lead rpt - 08/Mar/11

James Oakes - Lead RP - 06/Mar/11 with Brad Cowley

gazfellows - Lead - 03/Jan/11 with Billy

madasten - 2nd β - 03/Jan/11 with Gaz

markpollak - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Neil Rodgers (PCC) - 2nd O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Phil Lee

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 06/Nov/10

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Nov/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Oct/10

ClimberJimmyB - Lead O/S - 30/Oct/10 with Dan Matthewman

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 28/Oct/10

Got on this after being spanked off the start of Valkyrie. It's VS 4c in the new Froggatt guide, so I jumped on with abandon, only to find there's a serious bit of jamming at the top. Great climbing, but I would have had a hard time if I got on it when I was a VS leader.
jeffsheard - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/10 with Rich G

Awesome route! Perfect jams! SPA assessment.
howlingbaboon - Lead O/S - 27/Oct/10 with Dan Mckinlay, Dave (SPA)

Rested at the top crack. Too wide for a hand jam, too narrow for a fist jam, too strenuous to layback! Great route but found it hard. Would like to second it again clean.
erica - 2nd - 25/Oct/10 with John

John Brayshaw - Lead O/S - 25/Oct/10 with Erica

John Postlethwaite - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Big John

schaff - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/10

With some resting on the rope at the top. Hard! Jamming practice needed.
James Oswald - 2nd dog - 06/Oct/10 with Schaff

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 02/Oct/10

Matthew Robinson - Lead - Oct/10

Olli-C - Lead dog - 26/Sep/10

had to escape through the bushes on the left
timrowland - Lead dnf - 25/Sep/10 with Rob H, jmjw

The Bad Cough - 2nd O/S - 12/Sep/10

lobbed off the top moves - how annoying
pebbles - Lead dog - 05/Sep/10 with rob

greta gear but awkward
lithos - 2nd - 05/Sep/10

JRae - Lead - 30/Aug/10 with Libby K, Steve J

rested on this in july 2009 with neil, found it so much easier this time
Laurence Everitt - Lead RP - 30/Aug/10 with Rachel Takacs, neil mackie

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Aug/10

Takacs - 2nd dnf - 30/Aug/10 with Laurence Everitt

arunthomas - Lead dog - 15/Aug/10 with Holly Mitchell

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd dog - 15/Aug/10

Actually graded VS 5a in the most recent guide book - down graded. Arun lead this, I seconded it and got stuck at the cross area towards the top.
Holly Mitchell - 2nd - 15/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead dnf - 09/Aug/10

Not HVS!
Chris Craggs - 2nd - 08/Aug/10 with Colin Binks

Tony Holdsworth - 2nd rpt - 31/Jul/10 with Martin Haworth

Martin Haworth - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/10 with Tony

tri-nitro-toulumne - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/10 with Fred Yong

Chi Cheng - Lead RP - 11/Jul/10 with Ben Bangbala, Maria Thorpe

simeclimb68 - Solo O/S - 10/Jul/10

Hidden - Lead β - 03/Jul/10

philb - 2nd - Jul/10

dogged but then it was steaming hot and it was only VS in my guide.
gethin_allen - Lead dog - 06/Jun/10 with Jimbo C

Hard work and a good test of jamming. High in the grade VS.
Jimbo C - 2nd - 05/Jun/10 with Gethin

Hidden - Lead dog - 23/May/10

DaveFidler - Lead O/S - 19/May/10

wazir.safeer - 2nd O/S - 09/May/10 with Alex

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/May/10

Really had to fight my way up this as second - grade at the top of my grade at the moment so still happy to have dogged my way up it.
midnitegem - 2nd dog - 02/May/10 with Callum

callumd - Lead O/S - 02/May/10 with Gemma

chrisbussell - 2nd O/S - 13/Apr/10 with Tim O'Neill

Kyle Rance - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Louise Grimster

Hidden - 2nd dog - 11/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead rpt - 05/Apr/10

bloody hard for vs 5a
pauldr - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead - 28/Mar/10

Seconded two years ago. Bloody nails, so nearly fell off at the top. Rockfax lied!
James_D - Lead RP - 13/Mar/10 with Esther

slacky - Lead O/S - 20/Feb/10 with Nick Taylor

Ken Taylor - 2010

katyvose1 - 2010

Since when was this HVS?
cem - Lead rpt - 2010 with Charles Mason

A little wet in the top part of the crack which made it quite tough to jam!
nicki_2712 - 2nd - 15/Nov/09 with Tom Baines

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/09

belay bunny turned bad - 2nd O/S - 14/Oct/09 with Debbie, loundsy

Rockfax grade = VS; where i was just pushing my grade. UKC grade = HVS; Why I dogged up this route.
Chi Cheng - Lead dog - 16/Sep/09 with Charlotte Turtle

PanzerHanzler - Lead rpt - 13/Sep/09 with Martin Stevens

zara bloomfield - 12/Sep/09 with cat gallagher, adrian paisey

zara bloomfield - 12/Sep/09 with cat gallagher, adrian paisey

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Aug/09

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Jul/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/09

Kirill - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/09 with Maxime, Gareth

Jonathan Hall - Lead - 04/Jul/09 with Steve Sadler

HVS are you kidding?! This is bog standard VS. The starting layback is a bit awkward but then you plug in perfect jams all the way to the top. Really nice climbing but am just more than a little surprised!
Reaver2k - 2nd O/S - 04/Jul/09 with Lisa Trollope, Michael Watson

Not again, Beaten and bruised by the top section!!! Ran out of steam and rested on the gear in the top section. I'll get you one day.
krikoman - Lead dog - 14/Jun/09 with Kev Gibbs

DavidR - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09 with Holly Adamthwaite

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Jun/09

Wendy led this superbly in the rain and somehow managed to stuff it with gear - a superb effort - I got the initial layback this time but still struggled higher up. I think it was a clean second but I would not have been able to lead it in those conditions. It seems much longer than it actually is.
Steve Waters, Mynydd - 2nd - 07/Jun/09 with Wendy Potts

Andy Chubb - Lead - 30/May/09 with Steve Goodman

Very tough going. No gear until nearly half-way up. Initial lay back is awkward. There are good jams at the top but you are hindered by small chockstones. Easy HVS in my opinion.
stevetheleg - 22/May/09 with Tom Adams

cat22 - 2nd O/S - 09/May/09 with Mike

craig d - Lead O/S - 07/May/09 with Mick Fox

First VS5a I havent been able to get up. Who thinks this isnt HVS? Let me talk to them.
manwithacam - Lead dnf - 03/May/09 with Chris

Hidden - 2nd dog - 03/May/09

Hidden - Lead - May/09

Jumped on this as warm up climb on first visit to Froggatt. At VS I thought I was in for a tough day! What a fight.
Dave Foster - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/09 with Andy

bridget143 - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/09 with Dan Middleton

danm - Lead - 25/Apr/09

Shauna - Lead - 24/Apr/09 with Jules

tommytwotone - Lead rpt - 22/Apr/09 with Nigel

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09

melmyo - TR - 12/Apr/09 with Dave C

Failed to lead - poor
Tony Holdsworth - 2nd rpt - 11/Apr/09 with Richard White

few good moves up to the top section, very desprate holds on top bolder, psyced out then pumped out.
munkey - 2nd dnf - Apr/09 with dangerous

sonnenstern - Lead - 16/Mar/09 with Andy Marshall

Chris Sansum - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09 with Gary Lewin

A good fight. If this is VS then Tody's Wall is Hard Severe....
petellis - Lead O/S - 14/Mar/09 with granty and TK

hard. rockfax gives this route grade VS, my arse is it! not much gear at bottom, top is hard.
BicepAndrews - Lead - 14/Mar/09 with Sam Watkins

tried leading it first but couldn't quite finish, took my first lead fall as was soo pumped. Very strenuous and harder than VS!
Samo - 2nd dog - 14/Mar/09 with James Andrews

Hidden - Lead dog - 07/Feb/09

Really hard top moves. Not a massive fan of jamming!
Martin Davies - Lead dog - 19/Jan/09 with Ed Lemon

laybacked it, really hard work.
Milne - Lead O/S - 03/Jan/09 with Dave

Hard work especially if you layback the top crack like Terry did! VS 5a seems about right
Whealiebob - 2nd O/S - 03/Jan/09 with Terry

Si dH - Lead rpt - 16/Nov/08 with Neil Furniss

Hidden - 2nd - 16/Nov/08

daviesp2 - 2nd - 01/Nov/08

destroyed me, almost got to the top, VS my ass.
freemanTom (Guildford MC) - Lead dnf - Nov/08 with Crazy Steve

Hidden - Lead dog - 18/Oct/08

mic_b - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/08

SteveM - 2nd rpt - 12/Oct/08 with Sarah

matsavage - Lead dnf - 12/Oct/08

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 11/Oct/08

Nice crack. The jamming's getting better, but Kieran couldn't get up it.
Jeronimo - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/08

A real struggle for me seconding this. Very nice layback move at bottom and again near the top. In between there is some pretty brutal jamming required. More HVS than VS methinks
Abu777 - 2nd dog - 28/Sep/08 with Danny Blakey

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Sep/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Sep/08

jcurley - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/08 with Mike Buddle

staceyjg - 2nd dog - 14/Sep/08 with Barra

minaturechris - 2nd dog - 14/Sep/08 with Barra

catblack - Lead dog - Sep/08

tommytwotone - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/08

Shauna - 2nd O/S - 24/Aug/08 with tommytwotone

Somerset swede basher - Lead rpt - 22/Aug/08 with Katharine

Katharine.eaton - 2nd dog - 22/Aug/08 with Dom

Quite pleased with this really, wonder if this should be an effort for a lead some other time. Did it ok although last section was tough. Good lead by Neal and very good climb in general.. This is what keeps my hopes alive of leading HVS, esp after my failed epic on Valkyrie.
wanderso - 2nd O/S - 10/Aug/08 with Neal

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 10/Aug/08

Hidden - Lead dog - 08/Aug/08

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Aug/08

mol - 2nd - 20/Jul/08 with Jesse

Jesse Dufton - Lead - 20/Jul/08 with Molly Thompson

Failed on the lead.
Becky E - 2nd - 13/Jul/08 with James Karran

dpmUK - TR dog - 08/Jul/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/08

Andrew Sloan - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/08 with Malik

First ever proper lead fall! Fell off top moves - good gear!
hang_about - Lead dnf - 14/Jun/08

Hidden - Lead dog - 11/Jun/08

Neil D - 2nd - 10/Jun/08 with Jonny Phillips

what an arse of a climb, i like jammin, but these were akward jams to say the least, very sustained, and for that probly still worth HVS,try letting go to place gear...jezuz
fatbuoybazza - Lead dog - 09/Jun/08 with olivia & phil

snakebite - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/08 with Claire Sheehan

Hidden - Lead dog - 07/Jun/08

Hidden - Lead rpt - 05/Jun/08

Franco Cookson OLD - Solo O/S - 30/May/08 with Mike Hunt

Can't believe I hadn't done this before - a fine example of thuggy gritstone jamming, if rather short.
adam carless - Lead O/S - 05/May/08 with Jon_nz

Sam W - Lead - 03/May/08 with Megan Freeth

Was sent up this without a guidebook for me to look at and get scared by the grade. To my surprise found it fairly straighforward, perhaps I can jam after all!
kitkat78 - Lead O/S - 02/May/08 with Graham P

Guy Wilson - 2nd O/S - 01/May/08 with Rick Cotgreave

LoopyLou - Lead O/S - May/08 with Helen Lear

Had a few rests. Said VS in our guide.
mikehenesy - Lead dog - May/08 with Mad Tom

Chris Plewa - Lead O/S - May/08

Hidden - TR O/S - 16/Apr/08

PanzerHanzler - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/08 with Lafi Fides

russonly - Lead - 17/Feb/08 with Tigger

PenJD - Lead O/S - 27/Jan/08 with Simon P and Ru B

scullymammoth - Lead O/S - 06/Jan/08 with Karl Wooffingdon

AndrewJenkins - 2008

jamesturnbull - Lead - 2008

Jim Walton - 2008

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

Sean Kelly - 2008

Hidden - 2008

Hidden - 2nd - 2008

jimstanton - Lead - 2008 with Tom

Top crack is very awkward, glad i didn't lead this.
Pilch - 2nd O/S - 01/Dec/07 with Graham

Dan 85 - 2nd RP - 10/Nov/07 with Shaun

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 31/Oct/07

The bobster - TR - 20/Oct/07

dan gibson - Lead rpt - 08/Oct/07 with AJ

Hidden - Lead - 07/Oct/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Oct/07

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Oct/07

very sustained climb.
duzinga - Lead dog - 06/Oct/07 with Pete

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Sep/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/07

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 15/Sep/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Sep/07

chrisclimber_1986 - 2nd O/S - 15/Sep/07 with Luke Lindsay

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Sep/07

martin one - Lead - 14/Jul/07 with Dave andTony

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 11/Jul/07

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 07/Jul/07

jchenoweth - 2nd dog - 10/Jun/07 with Fat Alan

aphyx - 2nd dnf - 09/Jun/07 with Ian, Fraser, Morgan, Jacob, Dave

mr random - Lead O/S - Jun/07 with Costas

Hidden - Lead dog - 29/May/07

tomB - 2nd O/S - 21/May/07 with James Coles

wolverine - Lead - 20/May/07 with Alex Dalton

timharrison - Lead dog - 19/May/07 with Trevor Macalonan

Rampikino - Lead - 29/Apr/07 with Cat

jimsrankin - Lead dog - 10/Apr/07 with Steve

doug s - Lead - 01/Apr/07 with Brian

craig matheson - Solo O/S - Apr/07

peter myers - Lead - Apr/07

doug s - Lead - 24/Mar/07 with mike

John Pickles - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/07 with Zac Poulton

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Mar/07

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Mar/07

victim of mathematics - 2nd O/S - 10/Mar/07 with Sophie Whyte

dan gibson - Solo rpt - 03/Mar/07

Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 18/Feb/07 with Alex Twist

Laybacking!
Twisty - 2nd O/S - 18/Feb/07 with Graeme Hammond

Tobias at Home - Lead rpt - 14/Jan/07 with SecretSquirrel

SecretSquirrel - 2nd - 14/Jan/07 with tobias at home

Hidden - 2007

Hidden - 2007

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2007

Hidden - 2007

Hidden - 2007

MikeDowsett - 2nd - 2007 with John Harrison

wasn't expecting steepness of the last couple of moves. got very pumped, then backed off. Not surprised to see it's only recently been downgraded from HVS
Caralynh - Lead dnf - 30/Nov/06 with Dan (dpmuk)

Mike Parker - Lead O/S - 12/Nov/06 with James Ayre

With Sam
ArnaudG - 2nd - 21/Oct/06 with Jon

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 14/Oct/06

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Oct/06

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Oct/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/06

BallsofBritishSteel - 2nd - 01/Oct/06

danm - 2nd - Oct/06 with Sion

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/06

bobette - 2nd O/S - 25/Sep/06 with mike

Mike Parker - Lead dnf - 16/Sep/06 with James Ayre

b.hayley - 2nd - Sep/06

crossdressingrodney - Lead dog - 22/Aug/06 with sophie whyte

Hidden - Lead - Aug/06

givemetea - 2nd O/S - 09/Jul/06 with Tim

Can't believe anyone but staunch conservatives would consider this VS.
Owen W-G - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/06 with Anthony

jonny_098 - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/06 with Matt Bazire

dan gibson - Solo rpt - 12/Apr/06

Somerset swede basher - Lead dog - 19/Feb/06 with Pete Blenkinsop

ChrisJD - Lead - 18/Feb/06 with rc

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Feb/06

Tobias at Home - 2nd rpt - 16/Feb/06 with Alicia

chrishedgehog - 2nd - 23/Jan/06 with Karl

Mat J - Lead O/S - Jan/06 with Jonah

dan gibson - 2006

Jon Greengrass - Lead O/S - 2006 with Danos

John Lisle - 2006

Ian Hamer - Lead O/S - 2006 with Mog

baldcoder - Lead O/S - 29/Oct/05 with Little Old Lady

Hidden - Lead - Sep/05

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Jul/05

richw2k2 - 2nd dog - Jul/05 with Rob Grey

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/05

loonyclimber - 2nd - Jun/05

Hidden - TR O/S - Jun/05

Hidden - Lead - 08/May/05

3rd time lucky
Different Steve - Lead rpt - May/05 with Martin Hore

James Gomez - May/05 with Andy Levitt, Tom Bauer

Tombauer - May/05 with James Gomez

SenorVivo - May/05 with James Gomez

Siderunner - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/05 with Steve Bols.

fizzy_elephant - Lead O/S - Apr/05

tlr - Lead - 2005 with Pom

nai - 2nd - 2005 with Tim

petekeron - Lead O/S - 2005

rob wmc - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/04 with Pete

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Aug/04

Seconded this route again, lots of swearing and (to my shame) a tight rope. One day you'll be mine Broken Crack!!
krikoman - 2nd dog - 15/Aug/04 with Unknown Chap and Wife

cem - Lead O/S - 18/Jul/04 with Mike Ellims

SteveM - Lead - 02/Jul/04 with Cogie

Si dH - 2nd dog - Jul/04 with Kane Chandler

SteveM - 2nd - 19/Jun/04 with Tobs

Nicos - Lead O/S - 19/May/04 with mark richardson

Any early VS lead for me that turned into a bit of a nightmare. I had to be rescued off the final pitch
krikoman - 2nd dog - 15/May/04 with Kev Gibbs

Hidden - Lead - 15/May/04

dannyboy83 - Solo O/S - Feb/04

Stig - 2nd O/S - 24/Oct/03 with Geraldine Lawless

mikeyjbs - Lead O/S - Oct/03 with paul callander, wilko, sven hassle, will woodhead, jeremy leicester, dan, paul kenny, hans allnut, simon ball, farrow

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/03

Hidden - TR - 31/Aug/03

Hidden - Aug/03

Apharri - Lead RP - Jul/03 with Dave Wharton

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Jun/03

Hidden - 2nd - 05/May/03

Hidden - Lead rpt - May/03

Hidden - 2nd - 31/Mar/03

Hidden - Lead - 31/Mar/03

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/03

Dave Bond - Lead O/S - 2003

DerwentDiluted - Lead - 25/Jul/02 with A. Murray

dan gibson - Solo - 31/May/02

Hidden - Solo O/S - 06/May/02

Hidden - Lead dog - May/02

The Pylon King - Lead O/S - 2002

shoulders - Lead - 15/Dec/01

Stone Muppet - 2001

Escaped left
rlrs - Lead dnf - 2001

Hidden - TR - 14/Oct/00

Hidden - Lead - Aug/00

John Marsland - Lead - 23/Jul/00 with Tick and Steve

Hidden - Lead - 24/Apr/00

Gear retrieval proved a challenge.
Happy Wanderer - 2nd dog - 19/Mar/00 with Graham C

Rock Fairy - 2nd - 2000 with Carl

marcoleptic - Lead - 2000

sustained (VS 4c in on peak rock)
snowy_woodruff - 2000

Hidden - TR - 16/Oct/99

antroy - Lead - 10/Sep/99

ajc - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/99

ArnaudG - Lead - 1999 with Gunter

Russell Flynn - Lead dnf - 1999

petekeron - Lead O/S - 1999

clive-greenwood - Lead - 11/Nov/98

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Oct/98

ajoliver - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/98

FrankW - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/98 with Unknown

Jim Brooke - 2nd dog - 15/Mar/98 with Jon Stevens

Duncan I - 2nd - 1998

GrahamHP - Lead - Sep/97

chris sm - 2nd - Jul/97 with Charlie Someone

Hidden - Solo - 24/Jun/97

kp64zl - Lead - Oct/96 with Kirsten

John Marsland - Lead - 04/May/96 with Ian Manocha

kato'sdad - Lead - Apr/96 with Rob Simpson

RobSimmo - 2nd - Apr/96 with Jon Berry

bigphil - 2nd - 1996

Yourlead - 2nd - 10/Jun/95 with Graham Penny

Ian Archer - 2nd O/S - 13/May/95 with Rob Gilkes

Tom Vivian - Lead - 08/Apr/95

Laramadness - 2nd - 07/Apr/95

Hidden - 1995

BigHairyIan - 2nd O/S - 03/May/93 with Stuart Murray

BigHairyIan - 2nd O/S - 02/May/93 with Stuart Murray

IanD353 - Lead O/S - Mar/93

Roget - Solo O/S - 30/Sep/91

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/91

malc - Lead dog - 30/Jun/91 with Billy Whiz

mattnuttall - Solo O/S - 26/Jun/91

Marti999 - Lead - 1990

Raggar - Lead dog - 1990 with Steve B

Chris Ellis - 2nd - 26/Mar/89 with James Gregory

Hidden - 1989

Hidden - Solo - 26/Nov/88

steve prior - Lead - Sep/88 with Paul L

Hidden - Lead - 09/Jul/88

tapley - Lead - 14/Jun/88

tapley - Lead - 14/Jun/88

Budge - Lead O/S - 1988 with Adrian Fox

babymoac - Lead - 18/Oct/87 with Dan Guest

Hidden - 2nd dog - Jun/87

Pete Pozman - 2nd O/S - 05/Apr/87 with John Byrne

J R R Hartley - 2nd dog - May/86 with Stan the Man

Tom V - 1986

Hidden - Lead - 24/Feb/85

Hidden - 2nd - 1985

Nigel Bond - Lead - 24/Jun/84 with Nick

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Apr/84

wynaptomos - Lead O/S - Feb/84

Gezzer - 1984

Hidden - Lead - 10/Jul/83

stp - Solo O/S - 03/Aug/82

Mark Kemball - Solo - 23/Jan/82

ewar woowar - 1982

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1981

Hammy - 2nd - 25/Oct/80 with Rob Lawson

andy tetsill - 2nd - Oct/80 with Whitehall Course

mark-abz - 2nd - Apr/80 with ?

Andy Fielding - TR - 1980

hodjster - Lead O/S - Nov/79 with Tony Burden

Nigel Bond - Lead - 01/Oct/78 with John

Hidden - Lead rpt - 13/May/78

Hidden - Solo O/S - 1978

MikeDowsett - Lead - 1978

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Oct/77

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Oct/77

beaumap - Lead - Jul/77 with Bernie Green

Gordon Stainforth - 2nd - 21/May/77 with Patrick Radford

Derek Ryden - Lead O/S - 1976 with Rob Banks

Andy Say - Lead - 1974

rogerskews - 1973

Dave Musgrove - Lead - 23/Apr/72

David Smith - 1970

mikej - Lead - 04/Oct/69 with Geoff Williams

mikej - Lead - 20/Jul/69 with John Bickerdyke

mikej - 2nd - 22/May/68 with Wil Hurford

mikej - Lead - 06/May/68 with Graham Evans

Dave Musgrove - 10/Mar/68

Used a very large jammed knot (Viking No 4) sling as a runner in the widening upper crack.
mikej - Lead - 13/May/67 with Frank Chester

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
Hidden, SuperLee1985, Will Falder, Hidden, Hidden, Hidden, Hidden, Hidden, Hidden, Steve Waters, Mynydd, islandlynx, Hidden, Hidden

Voting
Total votes cast 459
hard E10 of 164
E10 of 164
easy E10 of 164
hard HVS7 of 164
HVS72 of 164
easy HVS27 of 164
hard VS53 of 164
VS5 of 164
easy VS0 of 164
hard 5b0 of 155
5b1 of 155
easy 5b1 of 155
hard 5a13 of 155
5a96 of 155
easy 5a23 of 155
hard 4c20 of 155
4c1 of 155
easy 4c0 of 155
3 Stars9 of 140
2 Stars97 of 140
1 Star27 of 140
0 Stars6 of 140
Bag of .....1 of 140
Please Login as Existing User to rate this climb.
Style of ascent

Soloed22 of 635 (3.5%)
Lead329 of 635 (51.8%)
Followed225 of 635 (35.4%)
Toproped11 of 635 (1.7%)
Alt Leads4 of 635 (0.6%)
Unknown44 of 635 (6.9%)

'Climbed'251 of 635 (39.5%)
clean O/S203 of 635 (32.0%)
clean β6 of 635 (0.9%)
clean rpt52 of 635 (8.2%)
clean RP7 of 635 (1.1%)
dogged86 of 635 (13.5%)
dnf30 of 635 (4.7%)