I think i was doing the start completely wrong.
I was reaching up to the lip and trying to pull up to the side pulls from some horrendous crimps, definitely felt harder than a V4 start. onsighted the rest after sitting on the rope to start the lip dobby 200 - Lead dog - 20/Apr/13 with Joe Doherty
one big lock at the start and your done Phil Belcher - Lead RP - 01/Jul/12 with james