Dialectic* E1 5b
[Sue on Dialectic , 3 kb]An enticing and much-attempted pitch with good gear. Start below an open corner right of Ra. 18m. Move up to the crack in the blunt arete right of the corner, and climb this with difficulty to the large mid-height break. Pull up into the continuation crack and take this to the top. The lower section can also be climbed via the corner on the left or the wall to the right at about the same grade. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: West Country Climbs.

Photo: Sue on Dialectic © Kafoozalem
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 140 logbooks, and on 6 wishlists.

cem - 2nd rpt - 04/Sep/14 with Peter Murphy

petegruf - Lead - 04/Sep/14 with charles m

david morse - 2nd O/S - 20/Aug/14 with KT, Andy Lole, helen, chris todd

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/14

Hidden - 2nd β - 20/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/14

RFWilkie - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/14

Very nice.
andrea83 - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/14 with Hamish

Andrea's first E1 lead, fantastic!! Tough crux section as it's hard to see where to place gear.
Hamish777 - 2nd O/S - 04/Aug/14 with Andrea

Mark Kemball - 2nd - 04/Aug/14 with Poppy Culshaw, Ali Wood, Solly Kemball Dorey

Hidden - TR - 04/Aug/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/14

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Jun/14

jon_ridley - Lead O/S - 31/May/14 with Jonny Forster

ashtond6 - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/14

Hidden - TR O/S - 15/Mar/14

Tom Seccombe - Lead O/S - 12/Mar/14 with Louise Street

Guy Lowndes - 2nd - 24/Aug/13 with alan Blanchflower

One tricky move with gear at head height. HVS 5b probably reasonable.
Monkey_Alan - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/13 with Guy Lowndes

SurferStan - Lead rpt - 28/Jun/13 with Tom Monday, Dilwat

Dilwat - 2nd rpt - 28/Jun/13 with Tom M, SurferStan

whiteexplorer - 2nd O/S - 28/Jun/13 with Dilwat, SurferStan

nice route good pro
dready - Lead O/S - 03/May/13

whiteexplorer - 2nd O/S - 03/May/13 with nick

Nick Wallis - Lead - May/13 with BMC international meet

gowla - Lead - May/13

Bristoldave - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/13 with Caroline

andy_pemberton - Lead - 16/Feb/13 with Steve Gibson

Sarah Welsh - 2nd - 09/Sep/12 with Andy Bisson

Rob84 - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/12 with Rob Adie

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/12

alastairbegley - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/12

Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/12 with Chris

Master Chief - 2nd rpt - 28/Jun/12 with John Spear

Spearos - Lead rpt - 28/Jun/12 with Master Chief

tcn_2002 - Lead - 28/Jun/12

ian d f - 2nd O/S - 28/Jun/12 with Tom C, Pete C

Stewart Armstrong - Lead - 04/Jun/12 with Steve Westwood

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/May/12

Good route and quite tricky in the lower half. Some balancy moves that I almost messed up.
monsteratt - 2nd O/S - 07/May/12 with Chris Goddard

Julesthe1st - Lead RP - 08/Apr/12 with Mike

Pete Graham - 2nd - Apr/12 with Rick Graham

arandall - Lead O/S - 18/Mar/12 with Frances Bensley, Amber Thornton

nickstephens - Lead O/S - 13/Mar/12 with Gareth Greeves

jakenichol - Lead O/S - 11/Mar/12 with Dave Heaton

Dave Heaton - 2nd - 11/Mar/12 with Jake Nichol

damp and breezy,fun climb good chance to practice your laybacks and hand jams
whiteexplorer - TR O/S - 09/Mar/12 with Dilwat

gg4419 - 2nd O/S - Mar/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/12

adie84 - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2012

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Nov/11

HVS 5b in my guidebook. Nice climbing and lots of good protection.
domskezz - Lead - 21/Sep/11 with Jamma

DanLear - 2nd - 18/Sep/11 with Andy & Gillian

very nice - I've got no problem with it being E1!
andy_pemberton - Lead - Sep/11 with Gillian, Dan Lear

mat cooper - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/11

Hidden - 2nd - 04/Aug/11

inspiration_needed - 2nd O/S - Aug/11 with Mat

Hidden - 2nd - Aug/11

AlistairB - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/11 with Matt Fry, Lisa

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/11

placed some appalling gear, fortunately the climbing was easy enough
thetradlad - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Laurence Everitt

Laurence Everitt - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Jake Lodge

Harry Thorpe - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Jake Lodge

Em66 - Lead - 02/Jun/11 with Mat

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/11

Great climb!
Master Chief - Lead O/S - 15/May/11 with John

Spearos - 2nd O/S - 15/May/11 with Master Chief

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Apr/11

Kirill - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/11 with Chris Smith

cem - 2nd rpt - 29/Apr/11 with Charles Mason, Paul Bolton

mattshort - 2nd - 27/Apr/11 with Alan Murray

Steve Waters, Mynydd - Lead - 23/Apr/11 with Mike Tempest

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Apr/11

Fun climb - nice balancy climbing with decent gear
Alan100 - Lead - Apr/11

mbradberry2008 - 2nd rpt - 05/Mar/11 with Alex French

flyinfrenchy - Lead O/S - 05/Mar/11 with Matt Bradberry

mark schramm - Lead O/S - 05/Mar/11 with Chaman, Chris E

Lead by Mark
Chaman - 2nd O/S - 05/Mar/11 with Chris Ebbutt, Mark Schramm

chris ebbutt - 2nd - 05/Mar/11 with Mark, chaman

Dilwat - TR O/S - 04/Mar/11 with SurferStan

SurferStan - TR O/S - 04/Mar/11 with Dilwat

First visit to Carn Barra, great afternoons climbing :)
royal - 2nd O/S - 26/Feb/11 with andrew benham

Good fun with a couple of committing moves low down
andybenham - Lead O/S - 26/Feb/11 with Dave Monaghan

mbradberry2008 - Lead O/S - 23/Jan/11 with Simon Allan

Rob Pitt - 2nd - 02/Sep/10 with Helen Pitt

tommytuffa - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/10 with ollie b

3 Names - 2nd - 04/Aug/10 with Sumee Holloway

PaulTanton - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/10 with Chris Reid

Good fun.
eddy-on-the-rocks - Lead O/S - 22/May/10 with max

With Luis from Portugal on BMC international meet.
Bobby Gilbert - 2nd rpt - 14/May/10 with Luis Fernandes Silva

In a snow storm
Bobby Gilbert - Lead O/S - 31/Jan/10 with Sara Scaife

Richard Horn - 2nd rpt - 29/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/09

chris sm - 2nd rpt - 22/Jun/09 with Pippa Froggatt

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/May/09

Danos - Lead β - 23/May/09 with Jamie

adamscottthomas - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09 with Kafoozalem

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09

riddle - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/09 with Mike Stephenson

mikeyjbs - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/09 with Roger Hamilton-Smith

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/08

chris j - Lead RP - 25/May/08 with Alan & Jeremy

Dan_Carroll - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/08 with Rebecca Holland

Pete Horn - 2nd O/S - 23/Dec/07 with Brother Rich

Richard Horn - Lead O/S - 23/Dec/07

cornishben - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/07 with Ian Butterworth

bpmclimb - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/07 with Clare

Dave Kerr - Lead - 05/Aug/06 with Jill Kerr

Hidden - TR - 02/Aug/06

Hidden - TR - 02/Aug/06

The Pylon King - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/06 with Laura

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/06

Sidekick - Lead O/S - Jun/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/06

robbo157 - Lead O/S - 2006

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Aug/05

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/05

Hand hold broke
cem - Lead dog - 27/Mar/05 with Graham Dolman

Hidden - 2nd - 16/May/04

Hidden - 2nd - 20/Sep/03

chris sm - Lead - Aug/03 with Pippa Froggatt

pezzerrr - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/02

Hidden - Lead - 10/Aug/01

Tim Sparrow - 2001

stuart100 - Lead O/S - 18/May/00 with Claire Graham

Marti999 - Lead - 2000

belay bunny turned bad - 2nd - 1999

chrisrogers - 2nd O/S - Aug/97 with TWMC

craig h - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/97 with Janet Hannah

michael burrows - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/97 with steve swygart

Charles Arthur - 2nd - 01/Apr/97 with Debbie Matthews

Mark Kemball - 2nd - 15/Mar/97 with Paul Marshall

GAtkins - Lead O/S - 22/Oct/95 with Jonny Baker

frost - Lead - May/95 with J Turner

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/95

Andy Say - Lead O/S - 31/May/94

Nick Biven - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/93 with Ray Jenkins

steve taylor - 2nd - Apr/88 with Steve Williams

Users with this climb on their wishlist are:
SurferStan, johnpr, nickevens, Steve Waters, Mynydd

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