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[Glyn Concentrating on Chalkstorm, 2 kb]14m. The slab has thin unprotected moves to pass the overlap. It is often climbed with a side runner (E1 to HVS depending where you put it). Arguments about the grade rage on, mostly by folks who have top-roped the climb - so what do they know? Often dirty from the top-roping/abseiling hordes' muddy boots. © ROCKFAX
FA. Ian Johnson 1977

Ticklists: Best slab climbs of the UK, ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List.

Photo: Glyn Concentrating on Chalkstorm © Glyn Davidson
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Andrew Abraham - Lead rpt - 03/Sep/14 with Ky

Side runner used
Ky - Lead rpt - 03/Sep/14 with Wales

Mark Hatton - TR O/S - 16/Aug/14 with Jo Wood

Hidden - TR O/S - 16/Aug/14

Steve Swanborough - TR O/S - 27/Jul/14 with Rick Clapham

67hours - 2nd dog - 26/Jul/14 with Matt Cookie

Chest high side runner when stood in break - E1
Matt Cooke - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/14 with George Cave

Mike Turner - TR β - 18/Jul/14

My first E3,it was warm and in full sun. Not bad for a blind man.
jcchurcher - TR O/S - 11/Jul/14

WillDoyle - Solo - 06/Jun/14

Damp conditions. Nothing else to do. Stunning friction. First 5c.
cdpuk - TR O/S - 29/May/14 with Bernhard Lozowski, Andrew Evans

Good moves on this. Worth working at as only two costly slips finding the right feet on the upper section. Wouldnt lead anytime soon though - no gear past the break
andyevans - TR dog - 29/May/14 with cdpuk

Bernie L - 2nd dog - 29/May/14 with Chris Peka

no problems went up the centre of the slab ,Charlotte 2rd with no problems. with one gear past and the no gear past.
dean beer - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/14 with Charlotte

rohai545 - TR - 24/Apr/14 with Helen

Hidden - TR O/S - 20/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/14

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Apr/14

Dan Vaj - TR dog - 13/Apr/14 with Dave Minshall

Killianmurphy - TR dog - 30/Mar/14

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Mar/14

amccann - Lead O/S - 29/Mar/14

Teappleby - Lead RP - 29/Mar/14 with Sarah Roscoe, Alex McCann

Hidden - Lead - 15/Mar/14

Clean, sweet moving
Ky - TR O/S - 10/Mar/14 with Dave H

Andy.norman - Lead O/S - 26/Feb/14

Was tempted to lead, but thought it was better to leave for another day.
zcsharp - TR - 16/Feb/14 with Camilla

In the rain when we had nothing better to do.
zcsharp - TR - 15/Feb/14

Chickened out and used mid height side runners. Felt like top rope to there then roped solo to the top. Amazing friction and class route. ***s
luke glaister - Lead rpt - 02/Feb/14 with casey johns

used the side runners
casey johns - Lead dog - 02/Feb/14 with luke glaister

Hidden - 2014

mike mo - 2014

Great fun - amazing lesson in friction. The lead would be pretty sketchy though...
Eoinparker - TR O/S - 23/Nov/13 with Hassen Bali

HassenBali - TR O/S - 23/Nov/13 with Eoin Parker

Andrew Abraham - Lead rpt - 10/Nov/13 with Clement Attwood

Very nice. Felt tricky. Who knows how I'd have felt on the lead :-0
monsteratt - 2nd O/S - 10/Nov/13 with Andrew Abraham

partz - TR dog - 02/Nov/13 with Matt Riordan

Hidden - TR - 29/Sep/13

Looked fun with a "side runner" though nightmare without! Side runner seems practically on route?
julesmckim - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/13 with Alex Renshaw

AlexRenshaw - Lead - 14/Sep/13 with Jules McKim

Andy Fielding - TR - 08/Sep/13 with Andy Sanders

Unbelievable fiction. The feet are just stuck to where ever u place them. Lovely jubley.
luke glaister - TR O/S - 08/Sep/13 with andrew(willy)wilson, casey johns

Great climb
casey johns - TR O/S - 08/Sep/13 with Andrew willie wilson, luke glaister

aidanb - TR O/S - 25/Aug/13

vinspin - 2nd rpt - 23/Aug/13 with kieran19

awesome climb, OS on toprope then clean lead
Kieran19 - Lead RP - 23/Aug/13

Hidden - TR O/S - 11/Aug/13

rob.grafton - TR - 27/Jul/13 with Chris Wright, Martin Smith

UnkArl - Lead RP - 27/Jul/13 with Lee

cragant - TR dog - 27/Jul/13

No side runners, felt proper thin smearing and sketchy fall potential. Cool once you trust the friction though!
Dr Toph - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/13 with Emily

Velo Orange - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/13 with Toph

rohai545 - TR - 21/Jul/13

Very thin climbing but brilliant...
Ben Taylor 1989 - TR dog - 19/Jul/13 with Alex wright

One slip half way meant a partial rest.
detritus - TR dog - 19/Jul/13 with Ben Taylor

spadge - TR O/S - 10/Jul/13 with Malcolm Brentwood

fr33_chris - TR dog - 10/Jul/13 with Jason Curle

Grippy as hell but got to the crux and bottled the move on a mono. Skittered down the face like on roller skates. Took weeks to unclench…
detritus - Solo dnf - 10/Jul/13 with Ben Taylor

HAJ Francis - Lead RP - 05/Jul/13

mikealexpayne - TR - 04/Jul/13

999thAndy - TR - 25/Jun/13

mikealexpayne - TR - 10/Jun/13

Hidden - TR dnf - 08/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead dog - 05/Jun/13

johngriffin - TR - 25/May/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/13

Nickfoulds - Lead dnf - 05/May/13 with Cas

Climbed it on a rope man. Nice friction moves. Will be back for the lead.
DeanD - TR O/S - 01/May/13

davebrox - TR - May/13 with Fiona

Paul Hy - TR O/S - 24/Apr/13

One TR in the past. Soloed first go today. Took a while but all the moves went to plan. A well meaning instructor put a mat underneath so technically lost the grade :P
Daniel Heath - Solo RP - 20/Apr/13

Very desperate at the crux, just trust your feet. Happy with this :)
Senna - TR O/S - 15/Apr/13

andy_e - TR dog - 13/Apr/13

Hidden - TR dog - 06/Apr/13

Slippery as hell, still wet from the snows
kez1 - TR dog - 02/Apr/13 with conor forshaw, james davies

Plenk - TR dog - Apr/13

nic_andrews - TR - Mar/13

mrobinson81568 - TR O/S - 21/Feb/13 with Jennie Handy

I did finish, was past the overlap contemplating the next few moves and bottled it onto a waiting top rope. I then proceeded to absolutely fly up the route with ease. I will lead this again, the climbing is fantastically precarious.
Albachoss - Lead dnf - 17/Feb/13

Matt Smith - 2nd β - 17/Feb/13 with Ben Corbey, AlexanderRyanBanks

kez1 - TR O/S - 01/Feb/13 with nic andrews, andy lees

sgl0jd - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Hidden - TR O/S - 2013

mrginna - Lead RP - 05/Oct/12 with Ben Pinches

once on a top-rope then clean on the lead. quality moves.
thefuturesmiles - Lead RP - Oct/12 with Ian Hawley

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/12

timmsy - TR - 16/Sep/12 with Neil

ianjfsutcliffe - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/12 with Coatesy

Richard P Coates - 2nd O/S - 15/Sep/12 with ianjfsutcliffe

Hidden - TR dog - 11/Sep/12

Hidden - Lead - 01/Sep/12

Hidden - Sep/12

MichaelGallimore - TR O/S - 11/Aug/12

Climbed up to the break, placed the gear mad a move or two beyond that but was not prepared to climb to territory I could not down climb from. Several up and downs before removing gear and down climbing. On the positive side I'm finding my feet on grit and grit slabs.
puppythedog - Lead dnf - 10/Aug/12 with Julia

UnkArl - TR O/S - 05/Aug/12 with Dave Bonfield, Caroline, Jenny, Debbie

Debs - TR - 05/Aug/12 with Karl

LiniebarClimb - TR - 05/Aug/12 with UnkArl

Hidden - TR - 22/Jul/12

very scary first day out on the rocks and will gets me second an E3 5c
barryp08 - 2nd - 22/Jul/12

used a side runner.
WillDoyle - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/12

WTF
j.townley - TR dog - 21/Jul/12 with Stuart_Burbidge

Mike Turner - TR rpt - 21/Jul/12

led but with two left siderunners at the crux so only E1, still got my pulse racing
pebbles - 12/Jul/12 with guido

Hidden - TR O/S - 11/Jul/12

Hidden - TR - 19/Jun/12

Hidden - TR dog - 29/May/12

Hidden - TR dnf - 18/May/12

Without side runners
Dean177 - Lead O/S - 12/May/12 with Alan Dibben

One fall due to foot slipping but overall didnt feel too challenging. Would have been different if Id lead it
swhitley - TR - 24/Apr/12

was a bit too far left, only minor rope burn
mattorford - Lead dnf - 25/Mar/12

With siderunner on left, for me it felt E2 with it, would have felt E4 without. Crackin' route!
Ewano - Lead O/S - 24/Mar/12 with Jess Horton

Hidden - TR dog - 14/Mar/12

Hidden - TR O/S - 14/Mar/12

Jess Horton - 2nd - Mar/12 with Ewan

RikPotts - TR - 19/Feb/12 with NEWMC

andrew549 - 2nd rpt - 19/Feb/12 with Jacobjlloyd

Hidden - TR β - 19/Feb/12

Really enjoyed this, despite being surrounded by 'toproping hordes' and its eliminate line. Nice moves, enjoyable insecurity, enough consequence to maintain focus. No siderunner, straight up. Hard to grade - the same moves and gear could be E3, but it is so escapable that the seriousness is massively diminished. Give it E4 and fewer people will hurt themselves I suppose.
jacobjlloyd - Lead O/S - 19/Feb/12 with Andrew, Mike Spooner

Hidden - TR dog - 19/Feb/12

Hidden - TR dog - 18/Feb/12

Hidden - TR RP - 18/Feb/12

Al toproped first. Used different sequece so semi flash/onsight... Do giv a shit. More E4 than E3
Ed Booth - Lead O/S - 02/Feb/12 with Alec Thomas

Hidden - TR - 02/Feb/12

mikespooner - 2nd dog - Feb/12 with Jake Lloyd

j.buckley87 - Lead dog - 24/Jan/12

Hidden - TR O/S - 15/Jan/12

Will Caesar - 2nd O/S - 2012 with Eddy Barnes

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

rob 528 - 2012

Rotorslap - 2nd - 2012 with Stephen Graham, Eddie, John Eley

Nordie_matt - TR - 18/Nov/11 with Huw Davies-Walters

Took one fall. Should have waited until it was dry and less slippery. Lovely route.
Tithe Technique - TR dog - 12/Nov/11

Was going to go for the Onsight but thought its not worth the risk, got a bottom rope on it and got it flashed then practiced the sequence couple of times. pulled the ropes through and got it first go on lead! Was chuffed, would've been a mistake to go lead first I think. Interestingly, every picture seems to use the flake as a hold where as more left as I was told to stick to just the blank slab, perhaps making it harder? hey ho...
jack1996 - Lead RP - 06/Nov/11 with tom s, craig

joeflan - TR O/S - 01/Nov/11

Thin. Not at all temped by the lead
Daniel Heath - TR O/S - 22/Oct/11

friendzone1234 - TR β - 06/Oct/11

scotty h - TR β - 05/Oct/11 with Andy Finney

tricky, need good rubber
minirollsrule - TR RP - 03/Oct/11

Hidden - TR - 24/Sep/11

My first E number lead
pete_fewings - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/11

Hidden - TR dog - 11/Sep/11

Hidden - TR O/S - 11/Sep/11

Steve Swanborough - TR dog - 03/Sep/11 with Rick Clapham

Steve Swanborough - TR O/S - 03/Sep/11 with Rick Clapham

First ever slab climb and managed half of it with no hands!
Steve Swanborough - TR O/S - 03/Sep/11 with Rick Clapham

Quite bold but unlikely to deck from crux i think? Good friction today, no side runner
thetradlad - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/11 with Laurence Everitt, Louise Cowie

Laurence Everitt - 2nd O/S - 02/Sep/11 with Jake Lodge, Louise Cowie

Hidden - TR O/S - 21/Aug/11

eeonz - TR - 21/Aug/11

Hidden - TR rpt - 21/Aug/11

used a side runner
gd303uk - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/11 with Alisingo

With side runner, previously seconded
gingerwolf - Lead rpt - 14/Aug/11

Hidden - TR - 10/Aug/11

Awesome climb...must lead. Would probably give it an E3 as per guidebook on lead...based on doing it in my slightly too big madrocks wearing socks and comparing it with "Better late than never" at Rivelin which is an easy E1 and a similar slab with similar crap low protection! Might change my opinion when I do lead it!! :-) Either way definitely a 3* route.
valentinesbabe - TR O/S - 09/Aug/11 with Kyle Williamson

yarrow - TR β - 06/Aug/11 with Josh S

wimped out and placed side runner.......wont claim the E points i promise
robman - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/11

asmith37 - TR dog - 30/Jul/11 with Dave Rose

very, very thin moves! not great on the footwork business...
PeteWilson - TR dnf - 29/Jul/11

Hidden - TR O/S - 25/Jul/11

Hidden - TR O/S - 25/Jul/11

Implausibly thin climbing. How do you grade the technical moves though? 5b if it sticks, 5c if not?
Different Steve - TR O/S - 16/Jul/11 with Jeremy, Eddie Webster

Hidden - TR dnf - 29/Jun/11

great moves! but its all in the feet.
EliotStephens - Lead RP - 07/Jun/11

elbeanio - TR O/S - 06/Jun/11

With Side Runner
Julesthe1st - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/11 with Pete

Spanner - TR - 01/Jun/11 with Craig Naylor, Nick Michel, Ryan Mcglen

craig naylor - TR O/S - 01/Jun/11 with nick

augustus trout - TR O/S - 29/May/11 with Dave Dillon

Hidden - TR - 20/May/11

With a low side-runner, wish I'd just gone for it without though.
Stuart William - Lead RP - 11/May/11 with Becki Hughes

Lead on Sam's gear. Side runner - E2?
galpinos - Lead β - 11/May/11 with Sam

foot slipped on the crux which is annoying.
scotty h - TR dog - 11/May/11 with Dom Pauly

mhawk - TR O/S - 08/May/11 with Paul Martin

Climbed on wet rock
JamesRobson - TR dog - 07/May/11

in the rain and soaking wet, slipped a couple of times at the last move (repeated later in the day when dry and managed it clean) really like this route :)
PerrinT - TR RP - 07/May/11 with RUMC

mad.moo - TR - 07/May/11 with Tom Perrin

Too many slips in the rain. Next time!
whiteworld - TR dnf - 07/May/11

Wet. Raining. Slipped on and near the crux. Would like to try in the dry.
Andrew Bangs - TR dog - 07/May/11

Nice climb but difficult to protect without going off track a bit
timatherton - TR O/S - 06/May/11 with Phil Cheeseman

phil.cheeseman - Lead dnf - 06/May/11

phil.cheeseman - TR O/S - 06/May/11

Hidden - 2nd - May/11

Hidden - TR β - 25/Apr/11

oddessy_uk - TR O/S - 23/Apr/11

Hidden - TR O/S - 23/Apr/11

first attempt at this route with several rests on the rope
Actionflack - TR dog - 19/Apr/11

parker236 - TR - 15/Apr/11 with Rick Mobbs, Andy Hennnel, Peter Parker

Andrew Martin - TR O/S - 10/Apr/11

my slab technique wasn't up to this
hms - TR dog - 09/Apr/11 with UCR squad

Jenny Seaborne - TR β - 09/Apr/11

Hidden - TR β - 08/Apr/11

Hidden - TR O/S - 26/Mar/11

My friend went up th v diff next to it so did it on top rope clean first time, came sown and soloed it, top route!!
hilty - Solo RP - 30/Jan/11

Shorty83 - TR RP - 22/Jan/11 with Giles

Working up to the solo later in the year
Onion - TR RP - 22/Jan/11 with Nick A, Giles W

Hidden - TR - 02/Jan/11

pord - TR RP - 01/Jan/11

Gigga - TR RP - Jan/11

John Mckeating - 2011

took a while to complete but did it first time with anazasi shoes
ragabond007 - TR - 2011

Steff007 - 2nd O/S - 2011

Climbfool_88 - 2nd O/S - 2011

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2011

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Nov/10

nic42 - 2nd O/S - 10/Nov/10 with Jack

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/10

Nathancoward - TR O/S - 25/Oct/10 with Kate Mellor

Clean, nice ballanced, may go back and lead.
John Lewis - TR O/S - 10/Oct/10 with Gemma

paulnc - TR β - 10/Oct/10

Climbed it clean on toprope on the second attempt.
KarlH - TR - 10/Oct/10 with Nick Ward, John L, Gemma

Garron - TR O/S - 02/Oct/10

cleetont - TR rpt - 25/Sep/10

muwasi - TR O/S - 21/Sep/10

Second go. Fell off the day before due to rain mid-crux. With side runner below S in crack.
DaveFidler - Lead RP - 12/Sep/10

David Kay - TR - 02/Sep/10

Hidden - TR dog - 29/Aug/10

Only on toprope, but I climbed it!
edmitchell - TR O/S - 22/Aug/10 with charlotte goedvolk

d_meacher - TR RP - 19/Aug/10 with Jamie Madison

Hidden - TR dnf - 15/Aug/10

jaxxman - TR RP - 01/Aug/10 with John (koflack)

j.hubbard - TR O/S - 01/Aug/10

Lenny - TR dog - 24/Jul/10 with Paul

climbing_wiggy - TR β - 24/Jul/10 with Leon

Scary stuff... Got crippling cramp at the overlap that coincided with rush of fear and had to have a rope lowered...pussy.
farmus21 - Lead - 23/Jul/10 with Frazer Hopwwod

Tried this using the v diff for side runners. After a few big swings decided my ankles had enough.
alexyoung - Lead dnf - 10/Jul/10 with Matchbox

thrutch - Lead - 09/Jul/10

Failed :s
Spidermunkie - Lead dnf - 03/Jul/10

LittleClimbingMaria - 28/Jun/10

Nice end to day but too broken/knackered to car about finishing it. Think I could do it though :) Next time....!
Hewin - TR dnf - 23/Jun/10 with WMC

Great slab fun! Just need good balance to get up over the overlap trusting feet. Then to move back up and right to follow send crack, i used two directional hand pull to stabalise while i moved my feet up. Good technical climbing for my outdoor grade, albeit on a top rope.
Gtok - TR RP - 22/Jun/10 with Emma Voitch

mlmatt - Lead rpt - 22/Jun/10 with Stuart Sherwood, Tim Nixon

no rests but used side runners. Great route, loved it but wouldn't want to lead without side runners.
jonathan watt - Lead - 19/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/10

andrew549 - TR - 11/Jun/10

gingerwolf - 2nd - 10/Jun/10

probably should have just soloed this, the gear was redundant by the time the hard climbing arrived... scary!
jacobjacob - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/10

michael burrows - TR - 05/Jun/10

Hidden - TR - Jun/10

troym - TR O/S - 31/May/10 with Ben Prince

Mike Hood - TR dog - 31/May/10

benjizac - TR - 31/May/10 with Troy Midwood

Jim Malo - TR dog - 30/May/10

Hidden - TR dog - 30/May/10

Jonny M - TR dog - 30/May/10 with Jim Malo

fatbuoybazza - TR dog - 28/May/10 with phil

Darn well wish I'd just led it!
Happy Wanderer - TR O/S - 28/May/10 with Ken T

Hidden - Lead dnf - 26/May/10

Glyn Davidson - TR rpt - 21/May/10 with John Muff

Hidden - TR O/S - 15/May/10

mullermn - TR O/S - 02/May/10 with Kylie Richards

mullermn - TR O/S - 02/May/10 with Kylie Richards

mullermn - TR dog - 02/May/10 with Kylie Richards

mullermn - TR dog - 02/May/10 with Kylie Richards

PerrinT - TR dnf - 02/May/10 with Andy Arbon

Led took a couple of falls, got a couple of moves from the top but bailed to the crack on the left. Need more time on grit.
98%monkey - Lead dnf - 02/May/10

Hard stuff! Need to learn to smear better!
Kylie - TR dog - 02/May/10 with mullermn

The moves over the bulge and the 1 or 2 above were tricky, rest was fine
mullermn - TR O/S - 01/May/10 with Phil Mitchell

dicky79 - TR O/S - 23/Apr/10 with Steve Boote

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 20/Apr/10

treeminkies - TR - 17/Apr/10 with the earl

Couldn't even manage with it top roped, need to try again when fresher.
Neil Metcalfe101 - TR - 17/Apr/10 with Andy Odger, John (treeminkies), Allan Mac

Emma-Louise Anderson - TR - 12/Apr/10 with Adam Simms, James Brown

Fell from above break onto gear below break. Caught about three feet off the deck. Ouch.
Neil D - Lead dnf - 26/Mar/10 with Boriz Korzh

Done on top rope after Neil almost hit the deck trying the on sight lead.
BorisVBlade - TR O/S - 26/Mar/10 with Neil Dowse

Ok...I did climb this more than 20 years ago, but cant remember anything apart from it being a one move wonder, so O/S ish. Lots of mud from abseiling boots, but nothing on anything important. what a lovely route, manages to feel very lonely.
paul__in_sheffield - Solo O/S - 17/Mar/10 with Noodle

willson - Lead - 15/Mar/10 with chris

cj1970 - TR O/S - 09/Mar/10

Emma Danis - TR dnf - 06/Mar/10 with Tom Parker

Hidden - Solo RP - 02/Mar/10

phil stubbs - Mar/10 with Matt Wilson

ParkFace - TR - Mar/10 with Jo Fromant

Weedyskid - Lead O/S - 2010

side runner
keith leonard - Lead - 2010

GF - Lead - 2010

Ebarnes - 2010

Hidden - 2010

Hidden - Lead - 2010

Hidden - Lead - 2010

Dave138 - 2010

mwatson - Lead O/S - 2010

cymjt - 2010

Nature_Boy12689 - TR O/S - 20/Nov/09 with Layla Peploe

Went for the lead, and got scared, then down climbed to let Rik show me how it was done, then got the move fine! Damn!
CharlieMack - 2nd O/S - 17/Nov/09 with Rik Battye

In the dark in my PJ's!
melmyo - TR O/S - 28/Oct/09

r.greaves - 2nd - 25/Oct/09 with John Beddard

donkster - Lead rpt - 17/Oct/09 with ben, DaveNW

cooper leek - 2nd rpt - 17/Oct/09 with dave nw, donk

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Oct/09

with runner
Bobbyonrock - Lead rpt - Oct/09

Hidden - TR - 27/Sep/09

E4!
Matt Bennett - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/09 with Nathan Sharp

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Sep/09

Really enjoyed this - loved the moves with the little pockets and pebbles
Ian Archer - TR O/S - 26/Sep/09

WillBroad - TR - 20/Sep/09

neilpotter - TR RP - 14/Sep/09 with simon birkedale

fantastic slab - although only did top rope, would be reluctant to lead at moment. great for practicing foot work and balance not - not much for the hands.
dean79 - TR - 13/Sep/09 with steve

Yes I top roped it (hangs head in shame)...please don't shout at me!
Laura-lou - TR - 08/Sep/09 with ceara

Hidden - TR - 07/Sep/09

willson - TR - 07/Sep/09 with chris, Wills

Used low side runner for E3 according to the guide, but it's probably only E3 for onsight and E1 with the side runner. Nice route, though.
ebf - Lead RP - 15/Aug/09 with Paul Stephenson

andrusht84 - TR - 18/Jul/09 with gary binns

Hidden - Lead RP - 11/Jul/09

Stoke-Gaz - TR O/S - 04/Jul/09 with andy rushton

Hidden - TR O/S - 24/Jun/09

hellboundblr - TR - 24/Jun/09 with ODL

One slip above the horizontal crack. Tried this route to see if I could to an E, going to return to lead this route soon.
Mattu - TR dog - 13/Jun/09

Hidden - TR rpt - 01/Jun/09

Missed the lower ledge in the break and mantled to the slab direct.. whooooa
nathanroberts89 - TR O/S - Jun/09

willoates - Lead O/S - Jun/09

Hidden - TR O/S - 26/May/09

neilpotter - TR O/S - 26/May/09

toproped a couple of times, then lead without the side runner. delighted ;)
Glyn Davidson - Lead RP - 10/May/09 with Ian andrews

michael burrows - TR - 10/May/09 with margaret

wonderful route, loved it
Lallylandslider - TR O/S - 10/May/09 with michael burrows

Hidden - TR rpt - 09/May/09

Jim Slater - TR O/S - 09/May/09 with Alan

will lead tomorrow
Glyn Davidson - TR RP - 09/May/09 with Ian andrews

rob wmc - TR O/S - 09/May/09 with Pete

well, as much of an onsight as possible when you can solo up the adjacent routes to see the holds! First E4.
Jeronimo - Lead O/S - 07/May/09 with sam8oy

sam8oy - Lead O/S - 07/May/09 with Jay

Hidden - TR RP - 02/May/09

nickwhimster - Lead O/S - 02/May/09 with andy abraham

Hidden - TR - 27/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead rpt - 24/Apr/09

James Moyle - TR O/S - 14/Apr/09

First E4 - don't know what came over me.
GPN - Solo O/S - 11/Apr/09

lenn1346 - TR RP - 05/Apr/09 with Nick W

Siany - TR - 15/Mar/09 with Rob Shepherd

jchenoweth - TR O/S - 07/Mar/09

Hidden - TR - 07/Mar/09

Griff87 - Lead - Mar/09 with Joe Fraser

Griff87 - Lead - Mar/09 with Joe Fraser

need to go back!
Steeve - TR RP - Mar/09

Hidden - TR RP - 22/Feb/09

Jo wood - TR - 10/Jan/09 with Dylan Burgess

With Black ice on the holds.
MorganPreece - TR O/S - 02/Jan/09 with Ross

had a side runner
Ralphie_coombs - Lead rpt - 2009 with Malcolm Coombs

Col Kingshott - TR - 2009

Martyn - TR - 2009

tallan9 - Lead - 2009

Hidden - Lead dnf - 22/Nov/08

emilysmile - TR - Nov/08

Put in a low side runner in the crack of Prow corner from the break.
ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/08 with Claire Duffield

Hidden - TR O/S - 12/Oct/08

siah - Lead RP - 24/Sep/08 with gavin nixon

E3... or just E2? Crux not hard for 5c and the moves towards the top of the slab ease off to only about 5a, maybe 5b.
Misha - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/08

siah - TR O/S - 18/Sep/08 with rv and gavin

C@rwyn - Lead RP - 14/Sep/08 with Tom

mux - Lead O/S - 14/Sep/08 with Simon Frost ,

Tomprusk - TR - 14/Sep/08

SGD - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/08 with Claire Duffield

hughr - Lead RP - Aug/08

got halfway solo whilst my partner was setting up anchors before traversing left to Prow Corner to get back down. didn't fancy my chances without a rope!
Becki Moore - Solo dnf - 25/Jul/08 with killianmurphyjade

snakebite - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/08 with Matt Reynolds

Hidden - TR - 18/Jul/08

FrankW - 2nd rpt - 13/Jul/08 with James R

Did it on a top rope. Had a failed attempt a couple of weeks before.
mmalbon - TR - 02/Jul/08 with Mick and Simon

nails worth the grade and onsight if youve got some balls and some strenght but more balls than anything but pretty much a solo effort bar bit/s of gear
jamesgodwin64 - TR β - Jul/08

didn't fancy breaking my ankles today. i'll have a go another time
dja - Lead dnf - 25/Jun/08 with Andy Smith

dennett - TR O/S - 22/Jun/08 with calvin dennett

A bit above my grade but thought I'd have a go as a second. The move after the horizontal cracks and bumps half way up proved the trickiest leaving me sat on the rope. Managed to finish the rest of it clean. Very enjoyable! May have to get a bit more practice before I go back to lead!
pepperpot - 2nd dog - 10/Jun/08 with Ralph Atkinson

rig - TR - 08/Jun/08 with Andy Dunne

MariaT - TR β - 08/Jun/08

cooper leek - 2nd O/S - Jun/08 with crucko

Stoff - TR - Jun/08

easy climb, warm sticky boots and your running all the way
matt thornton - Lead O/S - 29/May/08 with ollie

Hidden - TR O/S - 29/May/08

Hidden - TR O/S - 29/May/08

ClaireS - TR O/S - 21/May/08

frost - 2nd - 20/May/08 with D Garry

Climbed with "optional side runner" making it HVS/E1???
richardhopton - Lead - 21/Apr/08 with Matt Thombs

Hidden - TR - 21/Apr/08

TR O/S (sorry 2nd grit route in 3 years), then went for the lead. Didn't have any gear small enough for the small overlap higher up
Lloyders - Lead RP - 12/Apr/08 with Paul Southgate

on t/r,all i love about climbing!!
brew_guru - TR O/S - 12/Apr/08 with lloyd eyres

gaz_jones - TR - 12/Apr/08

Henryrouse - TR - 10/Apr/08 with max

Took a very long time to commit to the move (thanks Oli!), before finding a hold.
alaan - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/08 with Oli

areeves - TR β - Apr/08 with Ben

skittles - TR O/S - 08/Mar/08

lukewalsh - Mar/08

Hidden - TR O/S - 16/Feb/08

mat cooper - 2nd - 09/Feb/08

danJBA - Lead RP - Feb/08

Hidden - TR - 31/Jan/08

Mike W - Lead RP - 28/Jan/08 with Charles

Great fun as a TR, large deposits of chalk were giving away the moves! Probably quite a scary lead.
mitch - TR O/S - 27/Jan/08 with Daryl Mitchell

alexharv3y - TR O/S - 26/Jan/08

Mancunianimport - 2008

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

Original climber - TR RP - 2008

Hidden - 2008

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

jhawton - Lead O/S - 2008

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2008

nublet - 2nd dnf - 21/Dec/07 with Sam Riley

It being frosty, loads of friction, apart from the top out when you get to the ice
The Boy Riley - 2nd - 21/Dec/07 with Mathew Burton

Dan 85 - 2nd O/S - 17/Nov/07 with John

Lev - Lead O/S - 04/Nov/07 with Rob Horton & Jon Crouch

Great route, my first E4. I'll agree probably E3 on a headpoint.
Theeni - Lead RP - 04/Nov/07

Hidden - TR - 21/Oct/07

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 20/Oct/07

Hidden - TR - 04/Oct/07

Hidden - TR - 04/Oct/07

donkster - Lead RP - Oct/07 with mudders

Attemted as top rope in situ from neighbouring route. Fell one third height on upper slab. Need more smearing practice!!
AlastairB - TR dnf - 15/Sep/07

djking1983 - Lead RP - 13/Sep/07 with Andy Smith

troym - TR dog - 09/Sep/07 with Sean Redmond

Hidden - Lead RP - 28/Aug/07

trevor macalonan - TR dnf - 26/Aug/07 with Tim

timharrison - TR dog - 25/Aug/07 with Trevor Macalonan

Hidden - TR β - 18/Aug/07

djking1983 - TR - 14/Aug/07

Clean on-sight lead, no side runner. Had to wait until the hordes of pint sized climbers had finished top-roping it in trainers. Grr. E4 for onsight, E3 for the headpoint I reckon.
John_Hat - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/07 with Andy

prof_vague - TR dog - 05/Aug/07 with Nick

balancy gets harder at 1/2 way
Jules Lane - TR dnf - Aug/07 with Dan

tryed it for a laugh got to the break with not trouble
Dan Lane - TR dnf - Aug/07 with Dad

Hidden - TR O/S - 27/Jul/07

Hidden - TR - 24/Jul/07

Sorry to TR it, but only opportunity I will get to complete an E4! Nice calf building climb there requiring good balance and strong fingertips!
staceyjg - TR dog - 14/Jul/07

Clean lead after practise AWESOME!!!.
mic_b - Lead RP - 14/Jul/07 with mrsbate

Mike Turner - TR rpt - 01/Jul/07 with Simon Chandler

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/07

Still hairy even after the crux move. Wish i could have lead it, still feels awesome though!
Julia Chatterton - TR - 03/Jun/07 with Will

centurion05 - Lead O/S - Jun/07 with ramsey

easy for the grade
centurion05 - Lead O/S - Jun/07 with ramsey

LankyPaddy - Lead O/S - 26/May/07 with Sophie Price

SKippy5 - 2nd - 26/May/07 with Ed Northridge

roscoe6 - TR - 20/May/07

Wanted too have a look at it, didn't like what i saw!
Zoomer - TR O/S - 29/Apr/07 with Nobby Clarke

Hidden - TR - 07/Apr/07

Tried with side runner about 2 years ago and fell off. Lead clean today, not sure how i managed to fall before fiction is amazing!
Somerset swede basher - Lead β - 10/Mar/07

Somerset swede basher - Solo rpt - 10/Mar/07

Hidden - Lead dnf - 10/Mar/07

Yer, so I place a side runner. I had a twisted ankle from falling off Roscoe's wall and 10 days later still can't climb!
Stuart Johnston - Lead O/S - 10/Mar/07

mattyork2 - TR rpt - 04/Feb/07 with Pete Ellis

petellis - TR O/S - 03/Feb/07 with mattyork2

gibbo38 - TR O/S - 14/Jan/07 with martin

Hidden - TR O/S - 14/Jan/07

naughtybadboy - TR - 14/Jan/07

Hidden - 2007

Birdo - 2007 with Dave Bird

Foggy, green, wet, cold, brilliant!
Col Allott - Lead - 23/Dec/06 with Alex Sturrock

climbed in the dark. Couldnt see anything. Freezing as well.
dread-i - TR dog - 02/Dec/06 with eppa

With High side runner at c.E2
Steve Banham - Lead rpt - 18/Nov/06 with Dan

tallsop - 2nd - 07/Nov/06 with alex

daza - 2nd - 24/Oct/06 with Miles

Unbelievable! One of the many great routes which I'll never lead. Sorry I had to be another bimbly to TR it, though ;-(
Steve Pardoe - TR - 28/Sep/06 with Goi Ashmore

maybe_si - TR O/S - 23/Sep/06 with charlie

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Sep/06

some great lessons in movement and foot smearing
simonfife - TR dog - 17/Sep/06 with D Wearing

tallsop - TR - 15/Sep/06 with alex

Climb Rox - TR - 09/Sep/06 with nick

maffujones - Lead RP - 03/Sep/06 with Steve Banham

Hidden - TR O/S - Sep/06

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Aug/06

dread-i - TR rpt - 26/Aug/06 with castleman

High gear on left, fell near top then lead on second go, my first E grade wooo
Mr Wild - Lead dog - 15/Aug/06 with David Kettle

Definitely E4 for onsight, E3 for any repeat ascent. Funny how the memory changes the shape / sizes of holds!
Pythonist - 2nd rpt - 11/Aug/06 with Dave

Hidden - Solo O/S - 05/Aug/06

polished and crap
northy1983 - Solo - Aug/06

Hidden - Lead rpt - 23/Jul/06

Hidden - 2nd RP - 18/Jul/06

Hidden - TR O/S - 10/Jul/06

Mike Turner - TR O/S - 09/Jul/06 with Dave White

dread-i - TR - 08/Jul/06 with Tom M Williams

spacey - TR O/S - 25/Jun/06 with si barrow

first ever e4. you have to climb to your strengths and mine appears to be technical slabs
thrutch - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/06 with johnny b

kendogcatchy - TR RP - 18/Jun/06

juza - 05/Jun/06

flyboy86 - TR RP - Jun/06 with Nick (kendogcatchy)

Ben1983 - Lead O/S - May/06

Hidden - 2nd β - May/06

Hidden - TR dnf - 28/Apr/06

Would like to lead this one day!
Chris Sansum - TR O/S - 19/Mar/06

tatz45 - Lead RP - 18/Mar/06 with Rich Pearce

aaronthehippy - Lead dnf - 05/Mar/06 with Jasmine

Definitely not E4. The moves are pretty easy for 5c and i just needs a cool head - I guess the friction was pretty good when I climbed it though as it freezing cold.
reg_measures - Lead O/S - 04/Mar/06 with Luke

Popped off a couple of times. Was about to do it clean but it started raining. My first 5c route. Woohoo!
MagnusL - TR dog - 27/Feb/06 with My mate Paul

Will_he_fall - Lead O/S - 11/Feb/06 with ali

Mat J - TR O/S - 2006

John Sergeant - Lead - 2006

John Lisle - 2006

whiting.jp - TR dog - 2006

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2006

Hidden - Lead β - 2006

all in the feet
Shaun G - TR - 2006 with nick and skinner

argylectu - 2nd O/S - 2006 with steve

argylectu - 2nd O/S - 2006 with steve

RossG - 2006

Took a while on the main move, didn't understand what all that crazy gritstone friction was about and why there weren't any holds (now I understand you just have to stick to it).
Rob Greenwood - UKC - Lead O/S - Nov/05

Jeremy Wilton - TR - 16/Oct/05 with Julian Walker

ChrisBrooke - 2nd - 24/Sep/05 with John Inkpen

gwilym - Lead β - 14/Jun/05 with Colin Angus

victim of mathematics - 2nd dog - 14/Jun/05 with gwilym

Smelly Fox - Lead - 03/May/05 with Slim Beam

E2 side runner
BruceW - Lead rpt - May/05 with Becca

Duncan I - Lead - May/05

Sean_J - Lead rpt - Apr/05

Ropeboy - Solo - 20/Feb/05

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - 2005

mark s - 2005

Hidden - 2005

1st E4.
Andrew Barker - Lead O/S - 2005 with Dan Pearce

Andrew Abraham - Lead β - 2005

Hidden - TR - 31/Dec/04

The Mountain Goat - TR dog - 01/Nov/04

Hidden - TR O/S - 19/Jun/04

dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - Jun/04 with Chris Havill

Iggy_B - Lead O/S - May/04 with Paul Evans

will_benfold - TR β - May/04

beermonkey - 2nd - Mar/04 with can't remember

Hidden - Lead - Mar/04

Richard Bradley - TR - 2004

feilx - 2004

eduardo - TR - 2004

Hidden - TR - 21/Oct/03

Mark Collins - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/03 with Neil Henson

Neil Henson - 2nd dog - 18/Oct/03 with Mark Collins

Pythonist - Lead O/S - Aug/03

aulda - 2nd RP - 01/Jul/03 with Dave R

I am afraid to admit that this was done as part of a party from South Cheshire College. Pleased to of done it first try will have to be a lot better to have the balls to lead it though!
tom bre - TR O/S - May/03

Rich Malcolm - Lead β - 19/Apr/03 with Guy Tooth

Hidden - TR RP - 08/Feb/03

Hidden - 2003

Irk the Purist - 2nd RP - 2003 with Dave Jennions

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2003

tobydunford - TR O/S - Nov/02 with Jon Miles

akhughes - Lead O/S - Sep/02

With a low side runner, so no high E number.
Andy Clarke - Lead rpt - 14/Aug/02 with Ralph

Russell Flynn - TR rpt - 27/Jul/02

shoulders - Lead - 20/Apr/02 with tom

Neil Curtis - 2nd dog - 16/Oct/01 with Glenn Kelly

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/01

Gus - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/01

thetourist - TR - 25/Aug/01

With side-runner so not E4
cem - Lead rpt - 23/Aug/01 with Sally Dipple

cem - 2nd - 22/Jul/01 with Rod Strachan

adamwesthead - Lead rpt - 30/May/01 with Hoult

adamwesthead - 2nd O/S - 29/May/01 with Hoult

thetourist - TR - 18/Feb/01

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/00

Gear was placed on Prow Corner Twin Cracks.
Paul-Michael - 2nd O/S - Aug/00 with Dave Gun

Russell Flynn - TR O/S - 14/May/00

nige pacer - Lead RP - 13/May/00

Rich Malcolm - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/00 with Adrian Perry

ArnaudG - 2000

tlr - Solo - 2000

ed woods - 2nd β - 2000 with Mike

Bobbyonrock - TR RP - 2000

philhilo - 2000 with brian rodgers

bullybones - 2000

marcoleptic - TR - 2000

Solo, straight after leading it with a side runner.
mcb - Lead rpt - 2000

Hammy - TR - 29/Oct/99

Hidden - TR - 30/Aug/99

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/99

chris sm - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/99 with Pippa Froggatt

We each climbed it three times - first on top rope, then with a side runner, then without. No falls. Almost tempted to complete the set by soloing it !
Chris the Tall - Lead RP - Jul/99 with Bill G

Hidden - TR O/S - Jun/99

Low side runner. E2?
antroy - Lead - 10/Apr/99

nige - Lead - 1999 with john buckley

tuftynick - Lead - 1999 with ciaran troup

FrankW - Lead β - 29/Aug/98 with Roland K

ChrisJD - Solo - 18/Jul/98 with Alex

CrashMat Rob - TR - 04/Jul/98 with Nicky

Hidden - TR - Jul/98

chrisrogers - 2nd O/S - Jun/98 with Richard W

Mark Riley - Lead rpt - 1998 with Richard Ibberson

With E2 side runner
BruceW - Lead O/S - 1998

Hidden - TR - 20/Sep/97

Hidden - TR - 18/Jul/97

Hidden - TR rpt - 15/Jun/97

AlexRenshaw - 2nd - 01/Jun/97 with Mike Dawes

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/97

greenroom - Solo O/S - 1997

Dave Musgrove Jnr - Solo - 16/Sep/96

Nae side runners
NeilGriffiths - Lead - Aug/96 with Phil

Hidden - TR O/S - 20/Jul/96

A Crook - TR RP - 18/Apr/96 with Dom Stockton

robtrooper - 1996

nacnud - TR - 05/Nov/95

Phil West - Lead dnf - Jul/95 with Steve Wild & jimmy Turner

Chris Reid - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/95

cragspud - Lead RP - 1995

Hidden - Lead - 1995

brady - TR - 1995 with John Cameron

switch - Lead RP - 1995

AlexRenshaw - 2nd - 22/Dec/94 with Ted Lister

Lead ?
iskra2000 - 2nd - 14/Aug/94

My first E grade! High side runner
Duncan Bourne - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/94 with E Allcock

Climbed at E1/2. Took a few swings
Scott McRae - Lead RP - 14/May/94 with Steve Lucas

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/May/94

Hidden - TR - 1994

Hidden - Lead - 24/Aug/93

Did it at about E2 5c
andrew300169 - Lead - 30/Jun/93 with Pom

rockaddiction - Solo - 01/Jun/93

yes I used a side runner - I'm a coward!
chris d williams - Lead - May/93 with Ian Archer

OMSKB - TR - 28/Mar/93

Jon Read - Solo β - Jan/93 with Matt Gallagher

Hidden - Lead - 15/Aug/92

Scott McRae - TR RP - Jun/92 with Steve Jones

Laramadness - TR O/S - 1992

led with side runner
Roget - TR O/S - 07/Dec/91

Howard J - TR - 09/Jul/91

Glad I led this and resisted the temtation of that easy runner nearby. Repeated in similar style shortly afterwards as it is that good. Never E4!
Sean Kelly - Lead O/S - Jun/91 with Pete Carmichael

Hidden - Lead - 12/May/91

Hidden - TR - 12/May/91

side runner so HVS
kato'sdad - Lead - May/91 with Jerry Mattinson

channinga - 1991

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/90 with Andy Mackay

Did it 3 times clipping into a top-rope loop at the crux, then took the rope down and did it properly.
Michael Hood - Solo - 09/Aug/90

Hidden - TR - 06/May/90

Intense!
Gambit - Solo RP - Sep/89

Spent an afternoon working up to a lead and then bottled it at the last minute...the ignorance of youth, eh!
SPD224 - TR - Jul/89

Iain Thow - TR - 22/Jun/89

AlexRenshaw - Solo - 20/May/89

Hidden - TR O/S - 26/Mar/89

babymoac - 2nd - 26/Nov/88 with Alan S

jamiev - Lead RP - Oct/88 with Adrian Hawkins

Hidden - TR - 23/Jun/88

Hidden - Lead - 24/Apr/88

Thinking it was E1....
goi.ashmore - Solo O/S - 04/Apr/88

angry pirate - Lead - 1988

Hidden - Lead - 24/Jun/87

Hidden - Lead rpt - Apr/87

AlexRenshaw - Lead - 01/Nov/86 with Doré Green

Hidden - Lead - 12/Oct/86

Chris Ellis - TR - 28/Sep/86 with Karen Veale, Martin Veale

E2 without side runner, E1 with. Grade creep at its worst!
Bob - Solo O/S - Jul/86

Hammy - TR - 27/Apr/86

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1986

AlexRenshaw - Lead - 01/Sep/85 with Sean Myles

neilh - 2nd - 13/Jul/85 with simon webster

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Jun/85

With side runner so only E1.
Michael Hood - Lead - 17/Jun/84

Hidden - Lead - 25/Apr/84

Nigel Bond - 2nd - 14/Apr/84 with Charlie Leverton

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Apr/84

Mark Kemball - Lead - 01/Apr/84

andy gittins - 1984

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Oct/83

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1983

Hidden - Lead - 03/Jul/82

Hidden - TR - 01/Jul/82

Hidden - Lead - 06/Jun/82

Mark Kemball - 2nd - 02/Apr/82 with Bill McKee

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Lead - 1982 with Bob Higginbotham

Hidden - Lead - 1982

Andy Fielding - TR - 1980 with Mike Gilbert

Chris Craggs - 1980

rogerskews - TR - 1974 with Paul Barrow

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Voting
Total votes cast 424
hard E50 of 109
E50 of 109
easy E52 of 109
hard E41 of 109
E440 of 109
easy E429 of 109
hard E336 of 109
E30 of 109
easy E31 of 109
hard 6a0 of 165
6a0 of 165
easy 6a3 of 165
hard 5c7 of 165
5c122 of 165
easy 5c26 of 165
hard 5b6 of 165
5b0 of 165
easy 5b1 of 165
3 Stars55 of 150
2 Stars68 of 150
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Style of ascent

Soloed23 of 655 (3.5%)
Lead197 of 655 (30.1%)
Followed73 of 655 (11.1%)
Toproped325 of 655 (49.6%)
Unknown37 of 655 (5.6%)

'Climbed'228 of 655 (34.8%)
clean O/S210 of 655 (32.1%)
clean β26 of 655 (4.0%)
clean rpt39 of 655 (6.0%)
clean RP62 of 655 (9.5%)
dogged58 of 655 (8.9%)
dnf32 of 655 (4.9%)