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Black Pig* VS 4c

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[Nick Taylor gets more gear in than he thought he would, 2 kb]8m. The thin crack in the right wall of the chimney deserves its name (and 5c) if you don't use the footholds behind you! © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: Western Peak Grit 100 VD - VS, ROCKFAX Western Grit Grade List, 100 Western Grit Stars.

Photo: Nick Taylor gets more gear in than he thought he would © Ian Milward
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 238 logbooks, and on 4 wishlists.

Paul Hy - Lead rpt - 15/Jul/14 with Phil W, Claire D

ClaireD - 2nd O/S - 15/Jul/14 with Phil Wright, Paul Hyland

Wright.phil - 2nd O/S - 15/Jul/14 with ClaireD, Paul Hy

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/14

Le Chevalier Mal Fet - Lead - 21/May/14 with Dan Chadfield

gavster - Lead - 21/May/14 with kev

DanChad - 2nd O/S - 21/May/14 with Chris Murray

mapperley samurai - 2nd - 21/May/14 with Gavin Pownall

Hidden - TR - 17/May/14

Hidden - TR - 17/May/14

Nice climb
ClareG - 2nd O/S - 17/May/14

alcrosby - 2nd - 17/May/14 with Nick Owens, Becky Crosby

SHONAJONES - TR O/S - 03/May/14

terri mc - 2nd rpt - 18/Apr/14 with Andy Shardlow

saalty - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/14 with Andy S, Jim, Terri

Joemanglerocks - Lead - 18/Apr/14 with Satoshi Kimura

Alex_Derbyshire - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/14

Much better than it looks, with some really fun gymnastic moves. Couldn't make myself do the direct start, I'm not one for eliminates.
Nick Russell - Lead O/S - 23/Nov/13 with Emily

Adrianw - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/13 with Simon Phillips

Callum van Werkhoven - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/13 with Stu Breese

ipegg - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/13 with Gavin Philips

kermit_uk - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/13 with Michelle

timmyhobby - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/13

mikealexpayne - Lead - 25/Jun/13

Indy92 - Lead O/S - 26/May/13

Hidden - TR - 06/May/13

2themax - TR - 05/May/13

bobpilgrem - Lead rpt - 30/Apr/13 with Bob/Nic

Lovely climb
staceyjg - 2nd O/S - 20/Apr/13 with Chris Gardner

JM0rrison - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/13

DNF'd yesterday, creamed it today no probs.
Paul Hy - Lead RP - 06/Apr/13 with Umer

it was getting late and should have done something easier!
Paul Hy - Lead dnf - 05/Apr/13 with Andy S

andy.smythe - 2nd - 05/Apr/13

saffy - 2013

joeflan - 2nd O/S - 27/Oct/12

Much better and more independent than it looks
Stone Muppet - Lead O/S - 20/Oct/12 with ah

riff156 - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/12 with Steve Barnet

at night !
TM_Horton - 2nd O/S - 09/Oct/12 with Guy

Climbed it without using the holds behind, but had to detour into the depths of the crack to retrieve gear.
Hooo - 2nd - 06/Oct/12 with Andrew

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/12

went up the crack only.
Robnort - TR O/S - 16/Sep/12 with adam clemence, paul clauston

Hidden - TR O/S - 15/Sep/12

Hidden - TR O/S - 15/Sep/12

David Kay - 2nd - 04/Sep/12 with James Hoyes

Nice route
Jules Lane - 2nd O/S - 04/Sep/12 with Mynydd Rach

Nearly dark and still easier and with more gear than most of the HS's around here!
Batt - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/12 with Jules

Hoyes - Lead rpt - 04/Sep/12 with Simon R, David K

Pryan - 2nd - Sep/12 with Hazel

Robnort - TR O/S - 24/Aug/12 with adam clemence

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/12

Alex Winter - 2nd O/S - 22/Aug/12 with Saul

Nice route wasn't going to try the 5c version though!
markblair - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/12 with Alison Dixon

sambosanquet101 - Lead - 23/Jul/12 with Martin Jones

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead - 20/Jun/12

Sam Knowles - 2nd - 20/Jun/12 with rob

Hillson - Lead O/S - 22/May/12 with Pete Wilson

TM_Horton - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/12 with LOTTIE

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/12

fletch540 - Lead O/S - 2012 with joe flannagan

Hidden - 2012

nice, thought provoking climb
PeteWilson - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/11 with Andrew Graham

eeonz - 2nd - 20/Aug/11

carl wilcock - Lead - 20/Aug/11 with Ian Bailey

Ky - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/11 with Dan Timmis

Hidden - Solo O/S - 12/Jul/11

Chris Sansum - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with Nathaelle Bouttes

Hidden - Lead - Jul/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead - 14/Jun/11

Should of led it but I was been a wimp!
terri mc - 2nd β - 04/Jun/11 with Nicola Pledger, Andy Shardlow

bullybones - Lead - 02/Jun/11

paul horabin - 01/Jun/11

Double Knee Bar - Lead O/S - 29/May/11 with Iain

short
Dave Mahon - 2nd - May/11 with Rob Munday

Smithy Smith - Solo O/S - 27/Apr/11

couldn't resist using the LH crack at the bottom
999thAndy - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/11

A perfect end to the day. A lovely crack line.
Emma-Louise Anderson - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/11 with Mel Brown

Hoyes - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11 with Paul J, Dick W

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11

with the back footholds, still quite hard start, top half had nice moves
najki_2000 - 2nd β - 10/Apr/11 with Chris Rose

Killianmurphy - 2nd β - 02/Apr/11 with Matt Snell

Hardcore Pat - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Chris Vanderz

mol - Lead - 19/Mar/11 with Jesse

Mikael - Lead - 06/Mar/11

Hidden - Solo - 2011

matthomas79 - 2nd rpt - 24/Oct/10

Killianmurphy - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/10 with alex maggs

matthomas79 - Lead β - 16/Oct/10 with Nicola Thomas

antmorgan1991 - 2nd O/S - 20/Sep/10

marclloyd77 - 2nd - 12/Sep/10 with Dean Bucknall

Danny Crump - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/10 with Sarah Pentelow

LiL Saz - 2nd - 12/Sep/10 with Danny Crump

bobpilgrem - TR O/S - 09/Sep/10 with Bob/Nic

danJBA - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Aug/10

philboy - Lead - 27/Aug/10 with matt g

Hidden - TR O/S - 25/Aug/10

JasonV - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/10 with Phil

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/10

and Ewan
John Lewis - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/10 with Maureen

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Jun/10

Jimbo79 - 2nd O/S - 31/May/10

Did pedantic 5c start
gingerwolf - 2nd O/S - 16/May/10

chrissyboy - Lead - May/10

Hidden - Lead - 18/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/10

Laura-lou - 2nd - 08/Apr/10 with Paul Shepherd

donkster - Lead rpt - 21/Mar/10 with pete buswell

Ewan Russell - Solo rpt - 21/Mar/10 with joel

GF - 2010

donkster - 2nd rpt - 19/Dec/09 with DaveNW

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Dec/09

Hidden - Lead - 02/Aug/09

Birdo - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/09 with Ed Whitehead

Great route, bridge across corner then delicate moves onto and up slab
Tanya Savage - 2nd - 05/Jul/09 with Neil Pacey

Neil Pacey - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/09 with Tanya Savage

donkster - 2nd rpt - 23/Jun/09 with ben

cooper leek - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/09 with donk

Hidden - 2nd - 30/May/09

Chris Harding - Lead β - 30/May/09 with Emma Key

without black wall! making it 5c!
mr_cf - TR O/S - 23/May/09 with Julien Chape

deanr - Lead O/S - 23/May/09

had seconded it first
cayteye - Lead RP - 02/May/09 with Paul Highams

tradguy - Lead O/S - 02/May/09 with katy dartford

Hidden - Lead - May/09

craig d - 26/Apr/09 with Simon Kincaid

Si dH - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09 with Neil Furniss

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/09

Rob Laird - 2nd O/S - 11/Apr/09 with B Sosin

Hidden - TR - 11/Apr/09

wilkie14c - Lead - 11/Apr/09 with Dave Clarke

Hidden - TR - 11/Apr/09

snakebite - Lead O/S - 03/Apr/09 with Rachel Leese

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Apr/09

heathergotrumbled - TR O/S - 22/Mar/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09

Peter Drake - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09 with Ewan Russel

Ewan Russell - 2nd O/S - 15/Mar/09 with Peter Drake

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Mar/09

Hidden - 2009

Martyn - Lead - 2009

Hidden - TR O/S - 12/Oct/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/08

rob wmc - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/08 with Alan

climbing_wiggy - 2nd β - Aug/08 with Bolty

Tried the difficult start and had to admit defeat again! Enjoyed the rest of the climb, still feels quite difficult.
mmalbon - TR - 30/Jul/08 with Mick, James and Dave Lowndes

Duncan I - Lead - 02/Jul/08 with Steve Pardoe

I used the easy start wall on the left. Hope to try the harder start straight up the middle and a lead on this one.
mmalbon - TR - 25/May/08 with Mick and Simon

jcurley - Lead O/S - 23/May/08 with Mike Buddle

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/08

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/08

really enjoyed this, but did bridge up the corner
michael burrows - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/08 with colin

MeMeMe - Lead O/S - 10/Feb/08 with Nick

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

attempted to tackle it direct but with no luck, used the back footholds. great line, shame its so short. must try again in better conditions
gb83 - Lead - 11/Nov/07 with chriscopps

chriscopps - 2nd - 11/Nov/07 with gb83

cem - 2nd - 06/Oct/07 with David T, Rob Truckle

jl - TR O/S - 23/Sep/07 with A School Group

PaulGreenhead - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/07 with Kirsty

Kirsty - 2nd - 02/Sep/07 with PaulGreenhead

Monk - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/07 with Cat

Hidden - Lead - 11/Aug/07

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Jul/07

bobpilgrem - TR - 05/Jul/07 with Bob/Nic

Marvino - Lead - 15/Apr/07 with Rach

rachelwheatcroft - 2nd - 15/Apr/07 with Marvino

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Apr/07

gibbo38 - 2nd - 14/Jan/07 with martin

Birdo - 2007 with Dave Bird

Hidden - Lead - 2007

Hidden - 2nd - 2007

Whealiebob - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/06 with Terry & Ned

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 07/Oct/06

did the direct slab start, avoiding the chimney.
Milne - 2nd O/S - 07/Oct/06 with Dave

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/06

John Lisle - 2006

Andrew Abraham - Lead - 2006

Hidden - TR O/S - 25/Oct/05

AngelaC - Lead - 29/Aug/05 with Dieter Cole

FrankW - TR rpt - 16/Aug/05 with None

used "the holds behind" me cos it was goin dark. Is that cheating? what grade is it without using them? Is it worth it? cos I thought it was an excellent move going from bridging to the rest of the route.
Col Allott - Lead O/S - Aug/05 with Alex Sturrock

tatz45 - Lead O/S - Jun/05

Neil Curtis - 2nd - 08/May/05 with Aled Sage

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/05

Hidden - TR - 31/Dec/04

Carl Smethurst - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/04 with Kieran

Neil Curtis - Lead rpt - 08/Aug/04 with Marta de Madariaga

Nice moves near the top.
Alaric - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/04 with Neil

Will Gordon - Lead O/S - Aug/04 with Phil Nelson, Rob Gleeson

Hidden - Solo - 18/Jul/04

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/Jul/04

Jim Brooke - 2nd O/S - Apr/04 with James Latham

SteveM - Lead - 28/Mar/04 with Roger

Smelly Fox - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/04 with Luisa Giles

Andy Clarke - Lead O/S - 19/Aug/03 with Ralph

Chesh - Lead - 2003 with Mash

Neil Curtis - 2nd - 20/Oct/02 with Arthur Austin

Neil Curtis - Lead rpt - 21/Sep/02 with James Tyson

Neil Curtis - 2nd - 14/Sep/02 with Andy Goddard

Hidden - Lead - 02/Sep/02

Neil Curtis - Lead RP - 06/Aug/02 with Arthur Austin

MontyH - Lead - 11/May/02 with Andy Lawrance and Mandy

Hidden - Lead - 01/Oct/00

Surely "The Black Pig", as in Pugwash? Superb, shame it's short. Best o/s lead at the time Also Ant Roy
Steve Pardoe - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/00 with Marek Piekarski

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/00

Hidden - Lead - 10/Jun/00

Hidden - Lead - May/00

Peakology - Lead O/S - 1999 with cat

Chalky Cat - 2nd O/S - 1999 with Dom

FrankW - Solo O/S - 29/Aug/98 with Joe

ArnaudG - 2nd - 1998 with Penny

chris sm - Lead O/S - Jul/97 with Jon Stevens

Rog Wilko - Lead - Jul/97 with Debbie Wilkinson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1997

David Smith - Lead - 1997

CrashMat Rob - Lead O/S - 1996

Yourlead - 2nd - 11/Jun/95 with Graham Penny

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Apr/95

Hidden - 1995

nai - Lead - 1995

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/May/94

Iain Thow - Lead - 09/May/94 with Pram Singh

Hidden - Lead - 03/May/92

Roget - Solo O/S - 17/Feb/91

Hidden - 2nd - 04/Nov/90

Hidden - Lead - 29/Mar/90

andrew300169 - 1990

Nick Rundall - Lead O/S - 1990

tlr - TR - Oct/88 with Fin and Nick

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Apr/84

mikej - Lead - 25/Apr/71 with E

mikej - Solo - 26/Aug/70 with Stewart Grant

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Voting
Total votes cast 100
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easy HVS0 of 36
hard VS1 of 36
VS35 of 36
easy VS0 of 36
hard HS0 of 36
HS0 of 36
easy HS0 of 36
hard 5a0 of 33
5a1 of 33
easy 5a2 of 33
hard 4c15 of 33
4c14 of 33
easy 4c1 of 33
hard 4b0 of 33
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Style of ascent

Soloed8 of 238 (3.4%)
Lead130 of 238 (54.6%)
Followed66 of 238 (27.7%)
Toproped24 of 238 (10.1%)
Unknown10 of 238 (4.2%)

'Climbed'98 of 238 (41.2%)
clean O/S118 of 238 (49.6%)
clean β6 of 238 (2.5%)
clean rpt12 of 238 (5.0%)
clean RP3 of 238 (1.3%)
dnf1 of 238 (0.4%)