Rockfax Description
The original line using the November crack to start and one of the landmark routes of the Brown-Whillans era on Cloggy.
1) 5a, 28m. As for November and continue up the ramp to belay directly below the chimney crack.
2) 5b, 30m. Gain the chimney crack. Follow this in a determined fashion past several challenges to reach a grassy ledge.
3) 4b, 12m. Climb the wall then easier ground to the Eastern Terrace. © Rockfax

Ticklists: Hard Rock, Victim Of Mathematics' Ticklist of Extreme Justice, North Wales Rock Graded List, North Wales 100 Classic Climbs, Alex's Wales ticklist, Thrutch and Clutch, Addicted to offwidths.

amccann 16/Jun AltLd O/S

Led P2

benkelsey 16/Jun AltLd O/S

intimidating, sustained top pitch. wet drainpipe unnerving.

Hidden ??/2015 -
Hidden ??/2015 -
Hidden ??/2015 AltLd
phil64 ??/2015 Lead
Hidden 23/Jul/14 AltLd O/S
R0bbie 22/Jun/14 AltLd O/S
with Taba
Martin Haworth 21/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Led pitches 1 and 2.

with Andrew Jackson
planetmarshall 21/Jun/14 AltLd

Only led easy 3rd pitch. First 2 pitches long, hard and incredibly sustained.

with Martin
Ally Baba 21/Jun/14 AltLd

Cold in the morning. Enjoy it in the evening light.

with Gav Swinton
Hidden 20/Jun/14 Lead
Ian Jones 13/Jun/14 AltLd rpt

Surely **. Pitch 3 is solid HVS 5a.

with Tim Clarke
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
mike mo ??/2014 -
Hidden 27/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
pie_eater_pete 22/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
with bwestwood
bwestwood 22/Jul/13 AltLd

Bone dry, 2nd pitch was fantastic-jamming, bridging and laybacking all there, loads of gear.

Hidden 22/Jul/13 AltLd
cbeard 22/Jul/13 AltLd O/S

Caught the last dry day of Cloggy exposure! Lead the chimney pitch (2)

drysori 20/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
with brannock
Brannock 20/Jul/13 -

Led 1st and third pitches, very good.

Pete Rigby 20/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
with Chasqui Patter, Kelli Roberts
Hidden 20/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
kelliroberts3 20/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
with Chasqui Patter, Peter Rigby
Chazwoz 20/Jul/13 AltLd O/S

led the last pitch of November to finish

Freshprintce 18/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 17/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
The_Boy_ODwyer 17/Jul/13 AltLd O/S

Led big pitch

with Colin Harvey
Dan Mckinlay 15/Jul/13 Lead O/S
Helen Gibson 13/Jul/13 2nd

did the top pitch only

with Ollie B
wi11 11/Jul/13 AltLd O/S


with Brian
James Oswald 11/Jul/13 AltLd O/S

A reasonable route, not as good as some of the others on the crag. The 1st pitch was still a little wet. The 2nd was dry but pretty tough for E1. Great bridging and jamming. Nice

newtonmore ?/Jul/13 -
Duncan Campbell 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Led P2, really good climbing worth more than the 1 star it gets in the guide! Harder climbing than the troach but better protected.

with Ollie B
Pete_Frost 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Led pitch 1 - intimidating but thankfully dry. Followed pitch 2 - very difficult to "finesse", even on a top rope: hard.

Misha 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

A good route, can't quite decide whether it's 2 or 3 stars but certainly worth more than just the one give in the guide. I led P1, which was very traditional. A BD cam 4 or similar is handy though probably not essential as I think there is a placement for a cam 3 just above (can't vouch for that though as didn't use it). The crack was wet and slimy deep inside but on the whole it was perfectly climbable. Phil did P2, which was even more traditional and pretty tricky and sustained, though with some good rests and not that physical if you do it right.

with Phil
John Nuttall 09/Jun/13 2nd
with Andy H
Skinny Kin 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Pete led P1+P3. Still a little damp inside the crack after a week of Indian summer. Bone dry on the face. Superb fiction. P2 was well dry and well sustained 5b here and there. Looking down from mid pitch on P2, it was like climbing a big wall route. Immense exposure. Awesome. Very testing for E1. There are easier E1s out there. Good value for money though.

with Pete Frost
Hidden 08/Jun/13 2nd O/S
Olli-C 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Lead P1. A little damp in the back but not that bad. Felt blodish with standard rack. 2nd Pitch was awesome, sustained but not too hard. Did the 3rd pitch of November for a bit more interest which was good.

Rachel Slater 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Lead pitch 2.

Kirill 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Led P1 and P3 of November by mistake.

Hidden 08/Jun/13 2nd
Ollie B 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
with D.Campbell
philhilo 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

As dry as its likely to be and didn't effect the climbing. Beautiful 3 point palming off all the way up the 1st pitch. 2nd pitch pretty gnarly in a very traditional way - you won't learn how to do this down the wall!

with misha
Chi Cheng 08/Jun/13 AltLd O/S

Led the 2nd pitch.

with Bart Harris
Mark Grist 07/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
Sam Simpson 07/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden 07/Jun/13 AltLd O/S
Hidden ?/Apr/13 -
Nick Biven ??/2013 -
jcw ??/2013 -
Dave Rumney 27/May/12 AltLd

Just top 2 pitches

with Tanya Milner
manwithacam 26/May/12 AltLd

wild top pitch. Must be in my top 10 climbs, both pitches great.

with Mike R
PaulTanton 26/May/12 Lead rpt

An absolute classic

with Anita Grey
dan ely 24/May/12 AltLd O/S
with tony (army)
Liam FLeming 28/Mar/12 -
Captain Gear ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
JonG ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
Stone Idle ??/2012 -
Andy Edgar ??/2012 Lead O/S
Steven Carter ??/2012 Lead O/S
tom.n.walker 04/Jun/11 AltLd O/S

Led 2nd pitch

HIGHTOWER 04/May/11 AltLd O/S

Led 2nd pitch. Very sustained, but great. We took a 4 and 5 cam for first pitch but didn't need them. Standard rack and largish hex was fine.

with Lee Wales
Hidden 04/May/11 AltLd
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
PAJames ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Owain Llewelyn 03/Sep/10 Lead
with Dad
adam06 19/Jun/10 2nd

slipped of the first pitch once cause of the wet. very sustained and good climb.. defo 3 stars

with Ryan
spidey 19/Jun/10 Lead
with adam
Chad123 05/Jun/10 AltLd O/S

Two or Three stars surely? First pitch was wet and bold, second steep, well protected and quite tricky in places, but all up a lot of fun....

with Sam
sgl 05/Jun/10 AltLd
with chad
Hidden 04/Jun/10 Lead O/S
centurion05 27/May/10 Lead O/S

drain pipe crack was dry. Straight forward E1 with the 5a pitch being bold if you don't have large cams, i took a 5 and 4 and got both in straight away. Crux pitch is straight forward.

with dave g
Hidden 25/May/10 AltLd O/S
Ed Booth 17/Apr/10 AltLd O/S

Led a wet drainpipe crack. nice climbing. Ad led crux pitch.

Adam Booth 17/Apr/10 AltLd O/S
Ewan Russell 16/Apr/10 AltLd O/S

I lead crux pitch.ed insisted on dogging and aiding the first pitch, apparantly the crack was moist. To the embarrasment of all at the crag.

with ed-v12
soph 01/Jan/10 AltLd O/S
with Carl Reilly
Hidden ??/2010 -
Hidden ??/2010 -
Hidden ??/2010 AltLd
beci tointen ?/Jul/09 Lead O/S
with my uncle carl
thompson1000 02/Jun/09 -
with Olly
Glyn Davidson 31/May/09 Lead dnf

Dripping wet so backed off the first pitch :(

Seymore Butt ??/2009 -
Hidden 10/Jun/08 AltLd
Hidden 09/Jun/08 Lead O/S
Hidden 08/Jun/08 AltLd O/S
davidgent ?/Jun/08 AltLd O/S

led pitch 2

with Gareth Hewes
jamesturnbull ?/Jun/08 Lead
with aiden
Nicos 31/May/08 Lead O/S
with frazer
dave o 11/May/08 Lead O/S

pissed rain on the top pitch

with Julia H
Hidden 09/May/08 2nd
Peetzy 09/May/08 Lead O/S
Matt Vigg ??/2008 -
Hidden ??/2008 AltLd O/S
Justin T 13/Sep/07 Lead O/S

P1 wet and slimy ... yum!

with Wifey
Hidden 13/Sep/07 2nd dog
Hidden 11/Aug/07 AltLd rpt
Rich Mayfield 10/Aug/07 AltLd
Ched 05/May/07 AltLd O/S
with Gethin
Hidden 21/Apr/07 AltLd
Hidden ??/2007 2nd
shoulders 19/Jul/06 AltLd O/S
Hidden 15/Jul/06 AltLd O/S
Cowflinger ?/Jul/06 Lead O/S
with John Williams
Hidden 17/Jun/06 AltLd
reg_measures 10/Jun/06 2nd O/S
with Ralph, Timmy
dan gibson 09/Jun/06 AltLd O/S
with john nuttal
Hidden 04/Jun/06 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Jun/06 AltLd O/S
DavidR 06/May/06 Lead dnf
with John Marston
mike lawrence? ??/2006 -
Dave Rumney ??/2006 -
Hamish Leslie ??/2004 Lead O/S
with Martin Barclay
WB ??/2000 AltLd O/S
with Paul
D Tempest ??/2000 AltLd O/S
with Chris, Rick
mikej 31/Jul/99 AltLd
with Nick Salmon
zero six ??/1998 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/1998 AltLd
phardman 20/Jul/97 -
rob.grafton ??/1997 Lead
with tony howard, Matthew Bransby, Simon Wood
Hidden ?/Jul/96 AltLd
Hidden ?/Jun/96 AltLd O/S
jfletcher 17/May/92 AltLd O/S
with Jonathon Jones, David Gilkes
Nevil ?/Sep/91 Lead
with Bob
Paula Hamilton-Gibson ?/Jun/91 AltLd O/S

Climbed in drizzle, a bit challenging doing a very wet drainpipe crack.

with George reah
Nigel Coe ??/1991 AltLd
MikeYouCanClimb ??/1991 -
with Graham Evans
Hidden ??/1991 AltLd
AndrewP 19/Jul/90 AltLd
Guy ??/1990 -
Hidden ??/1990 -
Hidden 12/Jun/88 Lead
michael burrows 05/Jun/88 AltLd O/S

led 2nd pitch

with ket
Hidden 22/May/88 AltLd
William Robertson ??/1986 Lead O/S
with Emily, Steve, Shaun etc
Hidden ??/1985 -
PaulTanton ?/Jul/84 AltLd O/S
with Gwyn Ingman
Pete Nugent 27/Apr/84 2nd

Fell off seconding the Drainpipe Crack- no gear, as we didn't have cams.

with Simon Harry
charlesmfrench 14/Aug/83 AltLd O/S

Led second pitch.

with Nick
Rob Davies 16/Jul/83 Lead

I took up a Friend 4 - then uncommon - to make P1 safer

with Angus McLean
Mark Kemball 14/Jul/83 AltLd
with Dave Abbey
Hidden ??/1983 Lead
andybirtwistle 03/Aug/82 AltLd
with Ian Kyle
Hidden 05/Jun/82 AltLd
Nigel Bond 24/Apr/82 AltLd
with Charlie Leverton
Pedro50 12/Aug/81 Lead O/S
with Steve White
Nic Robinson 24/May/80 Lead O/S
with John Tout
uphillnow 19/May/80 AltLd

Cant be sure but I think I led Pitch 2

with john stanger, Al Bennett
Chris Craggs ??/1980 Lead
Nic Robinson ??/1980 AltLd O/S
with John Tout
Hidden ??/1980 -
granitbahn ??/1978 AltLd
GeoffG 19/Sep/77 AltLd
with tony bowker
GeoffG ?/Sep/77 AltLd
Ian Jones ??/1977 AltLd O/S
with Dave Greenald
Dave Musgrove 21/Aug/76 AltLd
with Jim Worthington
mikej 10/Aug/76 AltLd
with Mike Byles
Mike Owen 11/Jul/76 AltLd O/S
with Pete White
petemeads ??/1976 Lead
sharpie ?/Jun/75 AltLd O/S
with Phill Thomas
pneame ??/1975 2nd
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