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S S Special** E2 5b

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[Abseiler gets some beta., 4 kb]Superb crack and face climbing followed by a stiff pull through the roof. 45m. Follow the right hand crack in the flat wall to a ledge. Take the thin crack above to a junction with Sickle at the roof. Pull through this to gain the right side of the undercut flake. Abseil descent, or continue up Sickle. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List, Ultimate E2 ticklist.

Photo: Abseiler gets some beta. © John Marsland
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This climb is in 316 logbooks, and on 14 wishlists.

Ed Booth - 2nd O/S - 11/Apr/14 with Fennerz, Adam Booth

Awesome
Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/14 with Tom Fenwick, Ed Booth

fennerz - 2nd O/S - 11/Apr/14 with Ed and Adam

mr mills - Lead rpt - 12/Mar/14 with ioan d

Frank the Husky - 2014

oliverpcain - Lead O/S - 2014

Bob - 2014

Hidden - 2014

Neil - Lead O/S - 2014

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/Sep/13

rbharries - 2nd dog - 21/Sep/13 with neils EW, ollie mentalz

Bit shakey on this, first route of the day. Top sections awesome.
BenNorman - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/13

lovely moves on the top flake
brices - 2nd β - 01/Sep/13 with Ben Norman

Bailed off into the VS at the top. Didn't commit to the pull round the roof.
metal arms - Lead dnf - 23/Aug/13

Bristoldave - Lead β - 10/Aug/13 with LukeW

soph - Lead rpt - 10/Aug/13 with Lee Cooper

Hidden - 2nd dog - 17/Jul/13

samsimpson - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/13 with James West

Underestimated this route a little thought I would cruise it. Was steeper and pumpyer than expected. Not sure if I went the write way on the middle section. Traversed left and tried to get into this obvious groove and fell off quite a long fall and banged my already injured heal ouch. Got lowered down from the gear and walked away leaving it for another day. The past couple of times climbing havn't quite gone according to plan
Dale - Lead dnf - Jul/13 with johny

Glyn - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/13 with Jon Leighton, Luke

jonleighton - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/13 with Luke Brooks, Glyn Hudson

freudy_love - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/13 with Pete Macpherson

wolf.leeb - Lead rpt - 03/Jun/13 with jo

dicky79 - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13 with Leon

Had seconded it a couple of times before. Great route.
Dan724 - Lead RP - 26/May/13 with Simon (Beacon), Pitbull, James Lloyd

mikeshewring - Lead O/S - 26/May/13 with sharpie

tatz45 - Lead O/S - 25/May/13 with Katy Vose

wolf.leeb - Lead rpt - 20/May/13 with hosey

dswansonlow - 2nd rpt - 07/May/13 with Darren McMaster

Liked the gradual gradient ramp up. Think it felt soft for E2 and thought the slab was the trickier third.
shed_hed - Lead O/S - 07/May/13 with Dougie Swanson-Low

ksjs - Lead rpt - 07/May/13 with Rhys

BenRyle - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/13 with Dan

tim newton - 2nd O/S - 30/Apr/13 with liam fleming, stuart lade

wi11 - 2nd β - 19/Feb/13 with Gwen L

Owain Llewelyn - 2nd - Feb/13 with Gareth E

adie84 - 2013

adie84 - 2013

DubyaJamesDubya - 2013

dswansonlow - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/12 with Matt Roper

Super amazing climbing on this.
James Oswald - 2nd O/S - 04/Sep/12 with Jon Stewart

Absolutely superb. Good recommendation Tom.
Ed Babs - AltLd O/S - 01/Sep/12 with Iain Moodie

Hidden - 2nd β - 01/Sep/12

Dan724 - 2nd O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Gareth James

Thought middle section was by far the hardest. Lovely crack at the bottom. Exciting, but not too difficult finish.
Cardi - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Dan

Jenny Crook - 2nd dog - 21/Aug/12 with Rob Patchett

Rob Pitt - 2nd - 11/Aug/12 with Vaughan Jones

Graham Iles - Lead rpt - 28/Jul/12 with Neil Stabbs

guy757 - Lead - 25/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/12

Luke Brooks - 2nd β - 20/Jun/12 with Hannes

Hannes B - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/12 with Luke

Lenny - Lead O/S - 27/May/12 with Andy

Hidden - Lead rpt - 01/Apr/12

SamuelHarris - 2nd - 29/Mar/12 with G.Desroy

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Mar/12

Ollie B - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/12 with D.Campbell

PaulTanton - 2nd O/S - 25/Mar/12 with Chris Reid

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 22/Mar/12

Liam FLeming - 19/Mar/12 with luke brooks

Dan Mckinlay - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Owain it's spelt like this: Livingstone
Tom Livingstone - 2nd rpt - 02/Oct/11 with Owain Atkins

owain86 - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/11 with Livingstone

Tom Cox - 2nd β - 01/Sep/11

Dagash - TR O/S - 01/Sep/11

SteveJCox - 2nd - 01/Sep/11

Took ages, sorry Terry! First E2 on mountain rock, realized my gear placing skills need improvement (in the speed sense)...
sam820 - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/11 with Terry

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 14/Aug/11

vertically_challenged - Lead rpt - 04/Aug/11

Hidden - Lead - Aug/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/11

Hidden - 2nd dog - 30/Jul/11

sian88 - 2nd O/S - 29/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead - 24/Jul/11

colkurtz - 2nd - 24/Jul/11 with Robb

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/11

Ally Smith - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/11 with Curly Chris

lead on Ally's gear
Chriswallis2 - Lead β - 23/Jul/11 with Ally Smith

Hidden - 2nd - 23/Jul/11

CRiddiford - 2nd dog - 11/Jul/11 with Tom, Mike

thomasadixon - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/11 with Caroline, Mike

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/11

mr mills - Lead rpt - 30/Jun/11 with Gareth

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Jun/11

Matthew Robinson - 2nd - 11/Jun/11 with Nick

Hidden - Lead rpt - 04/Jun/11

theotherpetehill - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/11 with Chris Allan

chrisallan - 2nd O/S - 03/Jun/11

Tom Livingstone - 2nd - 03/Jun/11 with Matt Burdekin

Kevin Robert Jones - 2nd O/S - 01/Jun/11

Watched some climber deck from 7m from this route (he was OK surprisingly) before I got on it which added to the tension. Brilliant route, steep with good gear, good holds and good rests, just the way I like it.
Owen W-G - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/11 with Preston Matt

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Apr/11

Pippa - Lead - 29/Apr/11 with Jon

nige - Lead O/S - 23/Apr/11 with adam ellwood

sequency crack then sustained with good, but weirdly exposed moves up to the second ledge followed by some tasty undercutting
benkelsey - 2nd O/S - 21/Apr/11 with Remus Knowles

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/11

top effort by sam. shameful by me.
benchwarmer - 2nd dog - 20/Apr/11 with Sam, Bertie

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/11

steve_yo - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/11 with jojo

Almost did the top bit by a vicious crank off the footholds.
eddy-on-the-rocks - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/11 with Rich

will6459 - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/11

Fantastic, went to do Sickle, but another party diverted our attention to the brilliant lower crack section. I'd have climbed it whatever grade it was! Certainly a route of 3 halves, but would have been much better without the massive ledges, as it kind of broke the route up, having said that I was pleased for the rests. Bomber gear with seriously good climbing.
Twisty - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Byron Buck

Great route with lovely moves. Good effort by Alex on a steady lead.
Byronius Maximus - 2nd - 27/Mar/11 with Alex Twist

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/11

Liam FLeming - 23/Mar/11 with stuart lade

Rory Shaw - Lead rpt - 22/Mar/11

vertically_challenged - Lead O/S - Mar/11

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2011

mwatson - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Chuffed with this- a great route:)
adi bryant - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Paul A

DavidR - Lead O/S - 09/Oct/10 with Holly Adamthwaite

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/Oct/10

dominiclincoln - 2nd - 03/Sep/10 with griffon

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10

manik - 2nd dog - 15/Aug/10 with Ian Lau

gforce - Lead - 14/Aug/10 with Kath

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 03/Jul/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 24/Jun/10

david morse - 2nd O/S - 22/Jun/10 with tim

Liam FLeming - Lead - 20/Jun/10 with karen dalzell

Ri - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10 with Anja Jones

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/10

Hidden - Jun/10

Sam W - Lead - 31/May/10 with Nina Jenkinson

Bex_M - 2nd - 31/May/10 with Barra

Hidden - 2nd - 30/May/10

mattyork2 - Lead O/S - 30/May/10 with Ben Heason

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/May/10

wolf.leeb - 2nd O/S - 26/May/10

Engage brain next time. The correct finish.
mynyddresident - Lead β - 26/May/10 with wolf

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/May/10

Hidden - Lead dnf - 24/May/10

Sophie Nunn - Lead O/S - 23/May/10

Gazleah - 2nd O/S - 22/May/10 with matt helliker

richardr - Lead O/S - 19/May/10

Hidden - Lead dnf - 18/May/10

Hjort - 2nd dnf - 18/May/10 with Andy Davies

Laurence Everitt - Lead O/S - 15/May/10 with Mark D, Tommy B

Mark D - 2nd O/S - 15/May/10 with Laurence Everitt

Chris M - Lead - 11/May/10 with rach d

willson - 2nd - 04/May/10 with Wills, ben

Hidden - 2nd dog - 04/May/10

Hidden - Lead - 03/May/10

liked going over the overlap. easy climbing in a great position!
samrad - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/10 with smallerrich

Hidden - Lead - 26/Apr/10

Pretty sweet, just abbed off after first pitch
Bennykr - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/10 with Benji, Ollie Torr

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/10

Ed F - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/10

Shauna - 2nd - 17/Apr/10 with Jules

JulesV - Lead - 17/Apr/10 with Shauna Cunningham

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 16/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/10

nutallovertheface - Lead O/S - Feb/10 with Mikey

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2010

Speeddemonsi - Lead O/S - 2010

centurion05 - 2010

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Sep/09

hetaher - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/09 with Mike

Hidden - Lead - Sep/09

Richard Horn - 2nd rpt - 24/Aug/09

a pleasure as always
ksjs - Lead rpt - 25/Jul/09 with owen

Luke Brooks - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/09 with Strong John

DDDD - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/09 with Mick Haffner

HARD
Kirill - 2nd dog - 14/Jun/09 with Charles Moreton

cem - Lead rpt - 14/Jun/09 with Kirill Spiridonov

Marti999 - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/09

briar4012 - 2nd dog - 12/Jun/09 with Marti

really cool route, top bit rocks!
Mike Goldthorp - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/09 with Kieran King

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/09

the juicy dangler - 2nd O/S - 03/Jun/09 with Steve Franklin

Hidden - 2nd - 31/May/09

As Tony said - there were 3 hard bits...the start, the middle and the end! Managed the start and middle. Didn't figure out the end. Should have passed the overhang on the right. Might have helped if I had read the guidebook description before leaving the ground.
Swotson - 2nd dog - 25/May/09 with Tony Madden

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/May/09

simonp - Lead O/S - May/09 with Nicki Hearne

Broke my finger on this route because i couldn't reach the next hold so i used a fist jam and stood on it...
Ollie Wragg - 2nd O/S - 28/Apr/09 with Rich Cannell

Not gonna lie - i aint gona cherish the memory of this route
smallerrich - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/09 with Ollie Wragg

Andrew Barker - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/09 with Chunk

Brown - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Henry

A really cool route.
victim of mathematics - 2nd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Brian

scurted off left on the sickle finish
barni - Lead rpt - 11/Apr/09 with Northern

Abbed off after 1st pitch
thompson1000 - 2nd - 11/Apr/09 with Barni

Hidden - 05/Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Mar/09

kingholmesy - Lead O/S - 2009 with Brian & Lucy

Seymore Butt - 2009

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Jul/08

Hidden - Lead dnf - 22/Jul/08

dan gibson - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/08 with sam read

nai - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/08 with Tim

tlr - 2nd - 13/Jul/08 with Pom

Struggled a bit - not very strong at the moment.
chris sm - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/08 with Pippa Froggatt

mr mills - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/08 with ioan d and chang

haydng - Lead rpt - 08/Jun/08 with Rachel

RMG - 2nd - 08/Jun/08 with haydng

irish paul - Lead - 07/Jun/08 with Sarah Joyce

Owain Llewelyn - Lead - 03/Jun/08 with Phil

Nicos - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/08 with frazer

Hidden - Lead - Jun/08

Joe Dove - 2nd - 30/May/08 with kev

gregoritos - Lead O/S - 24/May/08 with chris gooder

Lovely climb with 3 distinct interesting sections.
Morgan Woods - Lead O/S - 18/May/08 with Alex

RachubAndy - 2nd - 12/May/08 with Chang

dave o - Lead O/S - 12/May/08 with Julia H

HughM - Lead O/S - May/08 with Yvonne Sell

ian caton - Lead O/S - May/08 with Abi

Matt Vigg - 2008

endless winter - 2008

lukea - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/07 with Al

correct (i think) line this time ie stepped left into small groove after middle wall section.
ksjs - Lead rpt - 01/Jun/07 with goosebump

lukea - Lead O/S - Jun/07 with Al

Lobbed from top overlap - gutted
Richard Horn - Lead dog - 26/May/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/07

Exellent varied route, with slab, wall and overhang moves to keep you busy....
Chad123 - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/07 with Emily

Mick B - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/07 with Guy Tooth

Rob Kennard - 2007

barni - Lead O/S - 2007 with Father

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Aug/06

Shaw Brown - 2nd - 08/Jul/06 with Chris King

AngelaC - 2nd - 07/Jun/06 with Rob

Hidden - Lead - 03/Jun/06

lead this after steve on pre placed runners. deadly confident i could have placed them. good moves throughout, well sustained at 5a/b. stepping round the roof took a while as i was exhausted, felt quite powerful. 3*
Alex Mason - Lead - 31/May/06 with Steve Ramsden

Ram MkiV - Lead O/S - 31/May/06 with Alex

climbed as part of plas y brenin "touching Stone" week. E2 5c
Hartley - 2nd - 05/May/06 with nick chapman, neil j

Bella - 2nd - 29/Apr/06 with Chris

Ian McNeill - 2006

Hidden - 2006

spidey - Lead - 30/Aug/05

michael burrows - 2nd - 21/Jun/05 with mike hammill

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/05

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - 2005

a_radiohead_fan - 2005

John Pickles - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/04 with Naomi Fisher

Hidden - Lead - 06/Jun/04

Birdo - AltLd - May/04 with Dave Bird

rapidrich - Lead O/S - Feb/04 with Zoe

jamiev - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/03 with Adrian Berry

The Pylon King - Lead O/S - Aug/03 with Dave

nicholas Barrowclough - Lead - Jun/03

Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Mar/03

akhughes - Lead O/S - 2003

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/02

cem - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/02 with James Gregory

Easier second section variation
BruceW - Lead dog - Aug/01 with Al D.

Dave Musgrove - 2nd rpt - May/01 with Italian guy?

Hidden - 2000

belay bunny turned bad - 2000

zero six - Lead O/S - 2000

Hidden - AltLd - 2000

NeilGriffiths - Lead - 20/Sep/98 with Paul Tucker

Ched - Lead O/S - 1998 with Glanfor

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/97

rob.grafton - AltLd - 12/Apr/97 with Bruce

cam1401 - Lead O/S - Jul/96 with Ian Taylor

michael burrows - Lead rpt - 20/Jun/96 with mark ryan

Andy Say - Lead - 01/Jul/95

frost - May/95 with J Turner

Dave Musgrove Jnr - 2nd - 01/Apr/95 with Martin Reynard

Cowflinger - Lead O/S - Apr/95

John Southworth - Lead O/S - 07/Aug/94

michael burrows - Lead rpt - 14/Jun/94 with lola gunn

mikedelderfield - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/94 with Steven Delderfield

Roget - Lead O/S - 01/May/94 with jon

Hidden - Lead - 1994

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/93

Steve Crowe - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/93

ste_d - 2nd O/S - 15/May/92 with mik

WB - Lead O/S - 1992

mark-abz - 2nd - 26/Aug/91 with Andy W

Hidden - Lead - 26/Jul/91

ChrisJD - Lead - 19/May/91

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Apr/91

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Jun/90

Hidden - Lead - 28/May/90

whispering nic - May/90 with Rob W

Hidden - Lead - 28/Apr/90

Hidden - 1990

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/89

David Smith - Lead O/S - Aug/89

michael burrows - Lead rpt - 22/Jul/89 with pete roberts

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - Jun/89 with Will (S. Williamson)

ChrisJD - Lead dnf - 27/May/89

Hidden - AltLd - 19/Sep/88

phardman - Lead O/S - 10/Sep/88

Hidden - Lead - 28/May/88

1 rest!
steve taylor - Lead - May/88 with vic radvills

AndyB123 - 2nd dog - 1988

Dave Musgrove - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/87 with Lyn

John Marsland - Lead - 24/May/87 with Neil Bulloch

Hidden - Lead - 1986

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - AltLd - 1986 with Ed Thompson, Bill Williamson

neilh - 2nd - 29/Sep/85 with simon webster

Hidden - Lead - 06/Jul/85

Nick Biven - 2nd O/S - 16/May/85

sadams - Lead - 22/Aug/84 with Chris Thwaites

Lone Rider - AltLd - 21/Apr/84 with Alan Shand

Hidden - 1983

Ivan Machin - 21/Aug/82 with Jon Mellor

Bruce Kerr - 2nd - 06/Apr/82 with Jerry Handren

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/80

Mike Owen - 03/May/80 with Elaine Watson

Ian Jones - Lead rpt - 1980 with Mike Wright

Hidden - 1980

Hidden - Lead - 1980

Hidden - 1980

Hidden - Lead - 22/Jul/79

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Style of ascent

Lead176 of 316 (55.7%)
Followed88 of 316 (27.8%)
Toproped1 of 316 (0.3%)
Alt Leads11 of 316 (3.5%)
Unknown40 of 316 (12.7%)

'Climbed'116 of 316 (36.7%)
clean O/S143 of 316 (45.3%)
clean β8 of 316 (2.5%)
clean rpt27 of 316 (8.5%)
clean RP1 of 316 (0.3%)
dogged14 of 316 (4.4%)
dnf7 of 316 (2.2%)