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War Games* E1 5b

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[War Games, 3 kb]An underrated route which is probably as good as Tactician. Start as for the last three routes but move right and climb a crack to gain a left-trending scoop. Follow this into the triangular niche and then move up to a ledge. Make a deceptive move up the groove above to reach a ledge, then climb the wildly-positioned corner to the top. © ROCKFAX
FA. P.Botteril 4.4.79 04/Apr/1979

Photo: War Games © John2
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 197 logbooks, and on 5 wishlists.

Andrew1 - Lead - 11/Apr/14 with Hulda

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Apr/14

Chris Joyce - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/14 with Sarah Black

Stefan_Morris - Lead - 05/Oct/13 with Edmundmorris

steve.warrington - Lead O/S - 31/Aug/13 with Nik Goile

Shauna - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/13 with Jules

JulesV - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/13

Hidden - 2nd dog - 11/Aug/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/13

Good warm up route!
Dibdawg - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/13 with Richard Snow

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/13

Wet
Jake Young - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/13 with Climbingsheep, Mike

Grezza - Lead - 18/May/13 with Paul E

soapy, tough.
Olli-C - 2nd O/S - 06/May/13 with Rachel Slater

Rachel Slater - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with Olli Crudge

tlmarjot - Lead O/S - 05/May/13 with Tom Baker

tomB - 2nd O/S - 05/May/13 with Tim Marjot

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 05/May/13

adie84 - 2013

VPJB - 2013

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 01/Sep/12

Damn you Paul Jones. Limestone trad is unpredictable and scary!
dprctr - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/12 with Patrick

Hidden - Lead - 25/Aug/12

good value. 2 stars
mountain_jay - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/12 with Martin Grenfell

dswansonlow - 2nd O/S - 13/Aug/12 with jacob loyd

jacobjlloyd - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/12 with Dougie

Hidden - Lead - 08/Jul/12

andy dunn - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/12 with Big Gay Jordo, J

simonf - Lead O/S - 13/May/12 with Simon

pembrokeshirecaver - Lead O/S - 05/May/12 with Adam

alasdair19 - May/12

benchwarmer - 2nd O/S - 15/Apr/12

haydng - Lead rpt - 06/Apr/12 with Dave

pie_eater_pete - 2nd - 02/Apr/12

bwestwood - Lead - Apr/12

Ciro - Lead O/S - 18/Mar/12 with Ramon

Ramon Marin - 2nd - 17/Mar/12 with ciaran tracey

Hidden - Lead - 30/Sep/11

Rob84 - 2nd dog - 30/Sep/11 with Rob Adie, Chris Ashton

Hard!
Batt - 2nd O/S - 30/Sep/11 with Mel

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/11

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Sep/11

Katya - Lead O/S - 28/Aug/11 with Chris Coleman

wolverine - Lead - 27/Aug/11 with Bryony Wethers

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/11

Excellent!
Dizz - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/11 with Matt K

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/11

Graham Iles - Lead - 26/Aug/11 with Neil Stabbs

Owen W-G - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/11 with Jim

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Aug/11

Ollie B - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/11 with L.Postlewaith

Fran S8 - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/11 with john nightingale

Matthew Robinson - Lead - 09/Aug/11 with John Nuttall

tonanf - AltLd - Aug/11 with john sun

redjerry - TR O/S - Aug/11

tatz45 - Lead O/S - Aug/11 with Katy Vose

Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/11

edmitchell - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/11 with adam booth

haydng - 2nd rpt - 23/Jul/11 with Dave

Really excellent
chris wyatt - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/11 with Rowan Crawford

Jessie Rushbrooke - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/11

Dave Foster - 2nd rpt - 19/Jun/11 with Jim, Si

Steady climbing
ojp - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Jim, Dave

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/11

robin_hackney - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Si

good rests between crux sections one to lead sometime
mountain.martin - 2nd O/S - 06/Jun/11 with Edmund

Excellent route, straightforward E1 climbing
Ed morris - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/11 with -martin

Rained all over me, got pumped and scared off my tits placing a piece lower down. Loved it!
Tommy Cole - Lead O/S - Jun/11 with Max Stanley

feilx - Lead rpt - 30/May/11 with Heather

Had to fight on this, a few damp holds didnt help but I think its way harder than the arrow. Slabby scoop felt a bit scary (safe really but the gear closest to me seemed crap) and the crux steep groove was really quite tough for E1 - good pro but several steep sustained 5b moves with no rests.
Si dH - Lead O/S - 29/May/11 with Andy

bigdrew - 2nd O/S - 29/May/11 with Si

Quite cruxy but not helped by grease. Good long route with an awesome finish.
Jon_Warner - Lead O/S - 28/May/11 with Dave Pattinson

al99 - Lead O/S - 14/May/11 with Martina Zandonella

martinazando - 2nd O/S - 14/May/11 with Al Benson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Apr/11

hetaher - 2nd O/S - 03/Apr/11 with Duncan Campbell

Rory Shaw - 2011

going going gone - Lead β - 03/Oct/10

steve.warrington - 2nd O/S - 02/Oct/10 with Dan Hobbs

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/10

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Aug/10

Rob Pitt - 2nd - 29/Aug/10 with Owen Davies

Ketu - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/10 with Graeme H

really nice crux sequence, well worth the 2 stars in the new rockfax guide
Graeme Hammond - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/10

haydng - Lead - 24/Aug/10 with RachelG, Dave

RMG - 2nd - 24/Aug/10 with haydng

Alasdair88 - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/10 with Loz

Dr Caterpillar - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/10 with Al

greenclimb - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/10 with Sarah

Steady with plenty of rests. Good route, worth a couple of stars.
Dave Foster - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/10 with Andy

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/10

Dave Reeve - 2nd O/S - 13/Aug/10 with Tony Payne

tigertim - 2nd - 13/Aug/10 with Tony Payne

tigertim - Lead rpt - 13/Aug/10 with Tony Payne

d_meacher - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/10 with Dave Ripley

dave657 - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/10

irish paul - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/10 with Dave Ripley

irish paul - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/10 with Sarah Joyce

Sidekick - Lead O/S - Aug/10

Bloody hard work! Was given the impression it was soft E1... I don't think so personally! It was very greasy though and spitting rain slightly. Quite brutal and thuggy in various places, but satisfying to complete
Cragrat Rich - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/10

JonBrown - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10 with Arnaud

ASchwirtz - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/10 with Cocky

Gareth Clendinning (UBMC) - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/10 with James Kay

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Jun/10

adam coxsell - Lead dog - 13/Jun/10 with ant

Accidentally got on to the E4 - No Mans's land and rested on the graunchy overhanging crack line before stepping onto the correct route. Doh!
ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/10 with Conner - UBMC

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Jun/10

Paul Bowen - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/10 with Rebecca Hayes

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/10

Still a great route, well worth two stars and felt easier than last time even with sprained thumb....
Chad123 - AltLd rpt - 24/May/10 with Emily

feilx - Lead O/S - 16/May/10 with Heather

heather rogers - 2nd O/S - 16/May/10 with Felix

Pown - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/10

metal arms - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/10

Mr Sparkle - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/09 with Mike Hayes

Misha - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/09

chris j - Lead rpt - 29/Aug/09 with Doug

Ant Man Bee - 2nd - 29/Aug/09 with Tim Guilliams

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Aug/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Aug/09

haydng - Lead rpt - 12/Jul/09 with Rob

chris sm - 2nd O/S - 31/May/09 with Pippa Froggatt

Excellent varied route, 2 stars at least - similar but a bit easier to Deranged. Quite full value with tricky slab, pumpy bulge and testing, airy finish...
Chad123 - AltLd O/S - 18/May/09 with James Humble

Ed Babs - 2nd O/S - 07/May/09 with Harry

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/09

Different Steve - Lead rpt - 02/May/09 with Clio

Clee - 2nd - 02/May/09 with Steve

joehanks61 - 02/May/09 with Guy Reid

david morse - Lead O/S - 02/May/09 with Juan

simonp - Lead O/S - May/09 with Neil Stabbs

RobRock84 - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/09 with Steve Quinton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Apr/09

matt.woodfield - AltLd - 22/Feb/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Aug/08

gforce - 2nd - 08/Aug/08 with Jason

tonanf - AltLd - 08/Aug/08 with Pep

morganator - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/08 with Rich Cross

Ramon Marin - Lead O/S - 26/May/08 with Gerry Sheehy

Almost made it clean but I was so marginal all the way, greasy from the rain, three tenuous cruxes, the exit one got me.
RocknRoll - 2nd dog - 25/May/08 with Ramon Marin Martinez

Bern - Lead rpt - 03/May/08 with Andy Mos

haydng - 2nd rpt - 27/Apr/08 with Will

haydng - Lead rpt - 26/Mar/08 with Rachel

Hidden - Lead - 2008

Hidden - 2nd - 25/Aug/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/07

Hidden - 2nd β - 25/Jul/07

Tony Little - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/07 with Ed Brown

Tim W - 2nd rpt - 24/Mar/07 with Mike Dudley

jfreeman - Lead O/S - 28/Jan/07 with Simon Robinson

simonr - 2nd - 28/Jan/07 with Jon Freeman

willjones - Lead O/S - 2007

janegallwey - Lead - 2007

NeilGriffiths - 29/Aug/06

bfreeman - Lead O/S - Aug/06

Hidden - Lead rpt - 29/Jun/06

chris j - Lead rpt - 24/Jun/06 with James & Doug

The Pylon King - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/06 with Chris j

chris j - 2nd O/S - 01/Jun/06 with Mark Davies

Different Steve - 2nd O/S - 01/May/06 with Martin Hore

Tim W - 2nd O/S - 01/May/06 with Pippa Whitehouse, Jamie Moss

PaulTanton - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/06 with Dave Taylor

Bern - 2006

Neil Ireson - Lead - Aug/05 with John

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/05

Hidden - Lead O/S - May/05

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Feb/05

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2005

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/04

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/May/04

Ben1983 - Lead O/S - May/04

Steve Crowe - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/04 with KM

alex_th - 2nd - 11/Apr/04 with Tim Riley

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Jun/03

ian caton - Lead O/S - 2003 with stewart

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/May/02

cem - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/01 with Neil Northrop

jfletcher - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/01

jonka - Lead - 2000

tuftynick - Lead - 2000

Hidden - 1999

Dave Musgrove Jnr - 2nd - 01/Sep/98 with Simon Witcher

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Aug/98

sadams - Lead - 15/Aug/98 with Pete Bukowski

Rich Kirby - 2nd - May/98 with Paul Tanton

Hidden - 27/May/96

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Aug/93

Hidden - Lead - 1993

jasper11 - 1990

Hidden - 1990

andy gittins - 1987

malc - 2nd - 10/Apr/85

shark - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/84 with Steve Aisthorpe

Mark Kemball - 2nd - 03/Apr/83 with Dave McCann

Dave Musgrove - 10/Apr/82

Hidden - Lead - 1982

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Voting
Total votes cast 147
hard E20 of 49
E20 of 49
easy E24 of 49
hard E130 of 49
E115 of 49
easy E10 of 49
hard HVS0 of 49
HVS0 of 49
easy HVS0 of 49
hard 5c0 of 48
5c0 of 48
easy 5c0 of 48
hard 5b9 of 48
5b38 of 48
easy 5b1 of 48
hard 5a0 of 48
5a0 of 48
easy 5a0 of 48
3 Stars5 of 50
2 Stars41 of 50
1 Star4 of 50
0 Stars0 of 50
Bag of .....0 of 50
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Style of ascent

Lead112 of 197 (56.9%)
Followed65 of 197 (33.0%)
Toproped1 of 197 (0.5%)
Alt Leads6 of 197 (3.0%)
Unknown13 of 197 (6.6%)

'Climbed'58 of 197 (29.4%)
clean O/S117 of 197 (59.4%)
clean β2 of 197 (1.0%)
clean rpt16 of 197 (8.1%)
dogged4 of 197 (2.0%)