Sub-Cneifion Rib*** VD
[CadairmanUK on the top rib pitch of Sub-Cneifion Rib, 2 kb]125m, 4 pitches.

Rockfax Description
An immaculate trip following the beautiful barrel on perfect rock. Large belay ledges and easy escape options make this route feel less committing than its Idwal Slab neighbours. The line seeks out the best rock on the buttress.
1) 30m. A 3-star pitch in its own right. Start below the pointed boulder and follow the groove, crack, then slab, to the bulge. Pass this on the left (tricky) and finish up the slab to a large belay ledge.
2) 35m. Wander left easily to reach the next true section of climbing. Take the broad rib direct via a crack to reach the rounded top.
3) 25m. Scramble rightwards to belay below the small roof in the right arete of the rib.
4) 35m. A fitting finale. Rock around the nose to a scoop. Head up and left on the front of the pillar then finish up the crack. An easier finish can be had to the right. © ROCKFAX

UKC Logbook Description
Over to the left of Idwal Slabs past the descent route, on its own buttress. 4-6 pitches. Excellent, sustained climbing between good belay ledges. The long traverse pitch rightwards to reach the right arête is more of a walk/easy scramble.

J.M.Edwards 1931

Ticklists: Menlove Routes.

Photo: CadairmanUK on the top rib pitch of Sub-Cneifion Rib © GrahamUney
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This climb is in 802 logbooks, and on 52 wishlists.

Alternate leads, clean on sight. Birthday trip out with Ciaran. Horizontal rain and mist, climbing in approach shoes and waterproofs. Pretty tough going for V Diff and we went too far left on the top pitch putting us in slippery and quite run out territory. Really enjoyed it though.
Landy_Dom - AltLd O/S - 21/Aug/15 with Ciaran Gallagher

In full waterproofs and approach shoes. Bailed after pitch 2 to come back when its a little less damp.
Matt Smith - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/15 with Zoe Taylor

Great day out with stunning views. Led P1&4. P4 fantastic pitch over the rib.
shazza65 - AltLd O/S - 13/Aug/15 with annie rowley

David Walker - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/15 with Maria

First & last pitches are 3 star, plenty of gear, the scramble in the middle takes a little from it. I'm not sure about the lengths in the guidebook, as we found the first pitch about 45m and the last about 55m.
paulerussell - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/15 with Paula

MariaT - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/15 with David Walker

gingerking - AltLd O/S - Aug/15 with Tom Mather

The top pitch is superb and surprisingly long, glad I had a 60m rope.
johnl - Lead O/S - 19/Jul/15 with Isaac Leonard, Andy Dunford

Only the 1st pitch due to the horrendous wind that was blowing.
Janice - 2nd - 17/Jul/15

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Jul/15

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/15

Tdavy01 - 10/Jul/15

Rickrick - 10/Jul/15

Dan Geh - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/15 with Izzy

Trace - AltLd - Jul/15 with Monkey_Alan

A great start to the day!
ChrisWills - AltLd - 27/Jun/15 with Tom Dewhurst

Hidden - Lead - 27/Jun/15

Hidden - AltLd - 27/Jun/15

Lead p2
Luke Jones - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/15 with LMC

Lead all pitches
static266 - Lead O/S - 23/Jun/15

Hidden - AltLd - 22/Jun/15

Patrick Clissold - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/15 with Jonny Hawkins

Louvet - AltLd - 22/Jun/15 with Tarquin

In the rain and trainers - tricky!
jimmatthews - AltLd O/S - 20/Jun/15 with Chris Andrews

dkd - Solo - 14/Jun/15

Nice enough route, but gets a bit lost in the middle and most of the climbing can be walked around.
ianstevens - Solo O/S - 13/Jun/15

Nicholas Livesey - AltLd - 10/Jun/15 with Dan Lane

P1, 3, 4. Wonderful evening out in the sun, good rock and entertaining climbing all the way.
cymjt - AltLd O/S - 10/Jun/15 with Nick Livesey

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Jun/15

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 07/Jun/15

My first multipitch route
pawel suhy - 2nd O/S - 07/Jun/15 with Sarah, Joe Hiley

Sarah led P3 and P4. Went up the left rib for P2.
JHiley - AltLd - 07/Jun/15 with Pawel, Sarah

sdixon - AltLd - 07/Jun/15 with Joe Hiley

Very loose big spike just off the ground on 1st pitch. Beware, I nearly pulled it off. Top pitch is Severe in my book.
Martin Dale - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/15 with Joanne Leadbetter

SteveM - Lead - 06/Jun/15

Hidden - 26/May/15

ChrisGard - Lead O/S - 26/May/15 with Chris Lucas

odari - 23/May/15

Matt_C9716 - AltLd - 21/May/15 with Adam

Hotcake - 18/May/15

Cracking route with a few tricky moves. Very enjoyable despite being really cold and windy. We did it in 4 pitches which seemed sensible. I led P1+P4. Sean led P2 and we scrambled across P3.
Cornish boy - AltLd O/S - 03/May/15 with Sean

led all pitches
Matadoors - Lead - 01/May/15 with jana

Good fun route in a lovely location, thought it felt quite hard for the grade but nothing too taxing. Third pitch is where the fun is.
bobstones - Lead O/S - 01/May/15 with Sophie Gibbens

Jani_J - 2nd - 01/May/15 with Matt

Pkrynicki1984 - AltLd - May/15

Pkrynicki1984 - AltLd - May/15

Matadoors - AltLd - 19/Apr/15 with emlynroberts, ErikWaskiewicz

ErikWaskiewicz - 2nd - 19/Apr/15

Led pitch 2 and 4
emlynroberts - AltLd - 19/Apr/15 with Erik W, Matadoors

jimmysdead - Lead - 18/Apr/15 with Ade Halliwell

buxtoncoffeelover - Solo - 14/Apr/15

JdotP - Lead rpt - 11/Apr/15 with @#Tim Dobson, Stefanie Pohlmann, Stanislav Huska

with JP, Fyndoh and Steffie
tdobson - 2nd - 11/Apr/15 with JdotP

jhobbs - Lead O/S - 10/Apr/15 with jamboidhr

adam001 - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/15

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/Apr/15

dave4430 - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/15 with Adam Palmer

Lead pitches 1+4, soloed/ scrambled the rest (Guy walked around pitch 2) Glad I decided to bring/ wear my comfy climbing shoes instead of boots for this, the latter wouldn't have made for a particularly fun experience.
GermanAlex - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/15

Managed to walk around half of pitch 2. Good fun before my head went!
MusicalMountaineer - 2nd O/S - 05/Apr/15

Hidden - 2015

I led pitch 1 3 and 4. pitch two a bit sketchy with wet rock big boots and a rucsack...... Great day
kiwi boy - AltLd O/S - 15/Nov/14 with neil cox

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Nov/14

clairemathews - AltLd - 14/Nov/14 with Richard Apthorp

Great little crag. wet and blowing a hoodie in b3s, wet and slimy first pitch which PB Lead. alpine styled the middle sections. some lovely moves (hard end VD, definatley not in big boots), hard crux in wind and rain and decided to retreat. It'll be there for another day. Climbed with Phil Bresnen.
Rmgdsc76 - AltLd - 01/Nov/14

Bailed 3/4 of the way up, at the awkward step right. Raining heavily and just felt a little too wet and risky to Solo safely. Nice to know I have a sensible head when needed.
chrisdevon - Solo dnf - 22/Oct/14

Hidden - Lead rpt - 15/Oct/14

Did scimitar crack to start, rick did the scramble pitch. Great climbing, nothing to dificult.
dapperdan - AltLd O/S - 12/Oct/14

did this moving together
Matt Harmon - AltLd O/S - 11/Oct/14 with Poppy Henson

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/14

Lead 2nd and soloed 3rd.
dunnyg - AltLd O/S - 07/Sep/14 with rosie cole

Hidden - Solo O/S - 05/Sep/14

Chris Manasseh - Solo - 02/Sep/14

mikelaing - Lead - Sep/14 with Trevor Rowan

JonnySchofield - AltLd O/S - 24/Aug/14 with Steve Hicks

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Aug/14

D Berry - Solo O/S - 16/Aug/14

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 16/Aug/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Aug/14

amazing route, a very hard route for a VD leader. plenty of pro, no polish, amazing climbing, did in big boots to had to the spice.
Craigyboy13 - Lead - 30/Jul/14

Brilliant climbing. Done as 4 pitches, with P3 as the walk rightward. Lead P1 and P3. C4s.
gav - AltLd O/S - 27/Jul/14 with Mark

Matt250 - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/14

First multi-pitch alternate lead!
derekwwl - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/14 with matthew williams

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/14

Hidden - 26/Jul/14

Mr Tickle - Solo O/S - 23/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/14

teaching, in series with practice leading for c3+sj. great route, managed to avoid nearly all he walking /grass! Top pitch is class.
lithos - Lead - 12/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead - 12/Jul/14

StevieJ - 2nd - 12/Jul/14 with C3, lithos

C3 - 2nd - 12/Jul/14 with Rob Stone, Steve Johnson

guy757 - 09/Jul/14

Met Eric Jones and Jeremy Trumper on same route! Lead first pitch in big boots with a rucksack, and the rain came in. Took a fall on the crux but finished the pitch. Rained continued and scrambled down after pitch 3.
jameselee85 - Lead dnf - 07/Jul/14 with Fiona Norrie

This time, we missed the second rib. Just by walking past it up the grass. One day, I'll do the whole thing. Good top and bottom rib though.
pnorth - AltLd - 07/Jul/14 with Graham Barnes TSCC

Lilla Horvath - 2nd O/S - 05/Jul/14 with Will

Backed off after first pitch due to bad weather
Dazluke2000 - 2nd dnf - Jul/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Jun/14

Jeromecooper - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/14 with Tom christenson

Raggar - AltLd - 24/Jun/14 with Jon B

Moving together as Alpine practice
Harri777 - 23/Jun/14 with Khalid

mr mills - Solo - 23/Jun/14

Moving together.
khalidq - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/14 with Harriet Kirk

mitch - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/14 with Shelley Coyle

Pesda potato - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/14

Bee_1 - 21/Jun/14

poeter210 - 21/Jun/14 with Fabian

Hidden - Solo - 20/Jun/14

No walkover at the grade. Went off route here and there (maybe VS/HVS) and climbed as three pitches. Lizzy not happy with her shoes.
squicky - Lead O/S - 16/Jun/14 with Lizzy

Joe Innes - Solo - 15/Jun/14

Glad we finally finished this one. Got rained off it three years ago. Agree with other comments about committing/scary last pitch. Great climbing though.
LauraChilterns - AltLd β - 15/Jun/14 with Dominic Turner

Kate Edhouse - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/14 with Denry, Emily

Alternate Lead Climb with Kate Edhouse and Emily Bridger. First proper leading with shiney new rack of gear! Felt tired from weights night before but some nice climbing never the less.
Denry - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/14 with Emily Bridger, Kate Edhouse

erbridger - 14/Jun/14 with Kate Edhouse

Jamiet297 - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/14 with Nick Donohue

gfpowell - Lead - 14/Jun/14

alternate leads / moving together
nickdonohue - AltLd - 14/Jun/14 with Jamie Trump

anth12 - AltLd O/S - 07/Jun/14 with Leachy7

Great route. As others have said not as busy as the slabs. First pitch i lead and carried onto the scramble bit. If you head left there is a great little out crop worth doing and adds to the route and by passes the walk/scramble bits. Last pitch Graham lead and felt committing. Great rock , great climbing and brilliant location. We then combined the arete.
Cadairmanuk - AltLd O/S - 06/Jun/14 with GrahamUney

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Jun/14

paul79 - 30/May/14

Katy led all but the intimidating start to pitch two.
BigHairyIan - AltLd O/S - 30/May/14 with Cameron Stanworth, Katy Stranack

Jack Whiteley - Lead dnf - 25/May/14 with Sarah

Still a bit wet, spent lots of time belaying/getting eaten by midges then seconded to get gear and went down.
ssnow157 - 25/May/14 with Jack

Moved together, great climbing!
andy_e - AltLd O/S - 20/May/14 with Ben Phillips

ben.phillips - AltLd O/S - 20/May/14 with Andrew Erskine

Excellent route
Conan - Lead - 18/May/14 with KMC

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/May/14

An outstanding wee route and a much better proposition than those on the slabs. quieter and much less polished.
JamieSparkes - Solo O/S - 16/May/14

Hidden - Solo - 13/May/14

zcsharp - AltLd O/S - 05/May/14 with Joe Innes

yossarian714 - Solo O/S - 03/May/14

crag_hopper_Jay - Lead O/S - 03/May/14 with Hannah Renshall

Pauls first multi pitch lead.
Kingsjester - 03/May/14 with Paul Feltham

runwildjohn - Lead - 03/May/14 with Dave Rawlinson

sunshine.hannah - 2nd - 03/May/14 with James Sanders

rbharries - Solo O/S - 27/Apr/14

Very lovely unexpected bonus climb :-)
Ly-Cilph - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/14 with Korin K

First and last pitch really lovely. On reflection, probably would've been better as my first multi-pitch route :)
fillerbunny - 2nd O/S - 21/Apr/14 with Patrick

Joe Innes - Solo O/S - 19/Apr/14

Fiskavaig - 2nd - 19/Apr/14 with Jason J, Mel E

Great route. Quite tough in big boots.
AndrewP - AltLd - 14/Apr/14 with FelixPeterken

FelixPeterken - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/14 with Andrew Peterken

smoreda - Lead - 10/Apr/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 01/Apr/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Apr/14

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Mar/14

musgravet - Lead O/S - 16/Mar/14 with Kate Green, Rob Mills

robertmills4 - 2nd O/S - 16/Mar/14 with musgravet

did pitch 2 and 4
SimonMarcYoung - AltLd O/S - 2014

Hidden - Solo - 2014

Alfie Conn - 2014

Hidden - Solo dnf - 2014

Hidden - AltLd dnf - 03/Dec/13

ClareSenny - 01/Dec/13 with Oliver Birkill, Andrew Edwards

ed edwards - 01/Dec/13 with Clare Gardiner

Climbed with Andrew (1st outdoor trip). Great long mutlipitch climb with brilliant views & exposure. Were planning on doing Cneifion arrete afterwards but ran out of time to walked the descent route back down to the lake.
jennym32 - Lead O/S - 24/Nov/13

HollyW - 2nd - 24/Nov/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Nov/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Nov/13

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 02/Nov/13

Wet, moving together, took 30 minutes.
Dan724 - AltLd O/S - 15/Oct/13 with Ben Ryle

BenRyle - AltLd O/S - 15/Oct/13 with Dan

Soloed, taking rope and lead rack, climbed in climbing shoes and hauled ruck sack up afterwards on the climbing pitches. First pitch and last pitch are the best. The middle section feels contrived and nothing special with lots of walking. Seems more logical to by-pass it. Final pitch is scary. It's very commiting to get back left onto the rib after stepping up right. I actually placed gear and used a slack rope to protect myself. Then backed off the crack line and climbed up right before the crack line goes right. Had to ab down to collect gear and top rope soloed the crack line:It's doable but definitely felt harder than VD. Exciting end to the weekend!
JamesColeman - Solo O/S - 13/Oct/13

Hidden - Solo O/S - 11/Oct/13

Will Williams - AltLd O/S - 28/Sep/13

ches - AltLd O/S - 24/Sep/13 with Andy Harbach

a splendid afternoons climbing
snafu64 - 2nd O/S - 23/Sep/13 with stephen

cpforbes - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Sep/13

A really testing outing that packs a lot in for the grade. Steeper than it first appears and there are a couple of sections that feel quite testy. First and last pitches are the best.
goatee - Lead O/S - 23/Sep/13 with Paul Harvey

Hidden - Solo rpt - 20/Sep/13

Hidden - AltLd - 13/Sep/13

schwenk - AltLd - 13/Sep/13 with Seb

did as 3 pitch; GC 1st; GOS easy scramble; GC end - stayed left of nose in overhanging crack - VS?
GOS - AltLd O/S - 30/Aug/13 with George C

georgec - AltLd - 30/Aug/13 with Gerard O'Sullivan

Hidden - AltLd - 26/Aug/13

In 3 pitches (not including the walk in the middle), nice route, followed by Cneifion Arete for a enjoyable day.
JezzaCat - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/13 with Stella

Gareth T - AltLd O/S - 19/Aug/13 with Haley

Lead 2nd and 4th pitch. Last one was the best. Lots of gear and fun to do.
Amber Chaloner - AltLd O/S - 19/Aug/13 with Jane Woulds

Climbed in wind so strong it nearly blew us off sideways. Pouring with rain as well. Great rock and great route though, will come back on a dry day.
stratandrew - AltLd O/S - 17/Aug/13 with Colin Maddison

Quick solo after day one of ML training. 1 hour car to car
thomaspomfrett - Solo O/S - 11/Aug/13

Steady V Diff, but with a couple of hard moves. Would be worth 3 stars if it weren't for the walk in the middle.
Howard J - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/13 with Fiona Leach

Lead 1&4. Pitch 4 is fantastic. Very out there for VDiff. Went on to Cneifion Arête. Great day out.
Dave 88 - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/13 with alexm198

Led P2
alexm198 - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/13 with Dave

JenEvans - AltLd O/S - 03/Aug/13 with chris vanderhoven

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Aug/13

Moving together most of the way. Sorry to the people we overtook then held up...
Binder - 2nd O/S - 03/Aug/13 with Chris C, Toby

Moving together. We overtook another party then held them up (apologies to them).
gravity - AltLd O/S - 03/Aug/13 with Chris Colebrook, George

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Aug/13

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Aug/13

Hot day
Grabtheslab - Aug/13

j.buckley87 - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/13

atyson1 - AltLd - 27/Jul/13

soloed without a guidebook, just followed the polish
CM1992 - Solo - 22/Jul/13

Superb, one of the best V Diffs i've done in N Wales.
Zoomer - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/13 with A Student

rd20 - Solo O/S - 15/Jul/13

3 pitches
nevets1984 - Sent O/S - 13/Jul/13

Good weather. Enjoyable Climb.
alexporter - Lead O/S - 05/Jul/13 with Clare Finn

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/13

BnB - 25/Jun/13

Seem to have somehow skipped a pitch but took the long crux
Trevers - AltLd - 24/Jun/13 with wjcdean

ran pitches 1 and 2 together (lead), somehow skipped 3 and 4, pitch 5 had some good little moves (2nd), pitch 6 (lead) little more than a scramble to finish, fun approach to cneifion arete
wjcdean - AltLd O/S - 24/Jun/13 with Trevers

HarryB - Solo O/S - 19/Jun/13 with Ross

Hidden - Solo rpt - 19/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/13

morgan91 - AltLd - 09/Jun/13 with Bradleywhite

BradleyWhite - Lead - 09/Jun/13

Hidden - Solo - 08/Jun/13

Rupey - Solo O/S - 08/Jun/13 with alan

Did as 3 pitches - led p1 & 3
net - 01/Jun/13 with Cath

dannygiblin - Lead - Jun/13

beautiful day. lead first and second pitch. Seconded the last pitch in boots
Matt Adey - AltLd O/S - 09/May/13

keith hal - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with John Bell

BenBird - AltLd O/S - 06/May/13 with Alan Reason

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/13

1step2far - 05/May/13

Very windy, terrifying climb!
Leigh_M - 2nd - 05/May/13 with James, Sarah

Climbed 2 pitches.
MD - AltLd dnf - 04/May/13 with Jo

Strong winds and too cold to do the last pitch so bailed to the left. We shall return.
Happy Wanderer - AltLd dnf - 04/May/13 with Mike D

JdotP - AltLd O/S - 04/May/13 with Stanislav Huska

stephenarnold - AltLd O/S - 02/May/13

Hidden - AltLd - 02/May/13

jpd80 - Lead - May/13 with Leigh

flying el burro - 2nd - 06/Apr/13 with mark riddington

Truan - Lead dnf - 09/Mar/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Mar/13

SamStokes - AltLd O/S - 20/Feb/13 with Simon Lambert

dan tipper - Lead dog - 19/Feb/13 with Rob Tipper

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Feb/13

John Nuttall - Solo - 17/Feb/13

Great little climb, done in big winter boots, would be much easier in shoes.
liam prince - Lead - 16/Feb/13 with Rex Wade

winter boots would be easier in shoes
Mr jangles - 2nd - 16/Feb/13

Hidden - AltLd - 06/Jan/13

I climbed in hiking boots, definitely would've been easier in rock shoes.
LesserTrochanter - AltLd O/S - 15/Nov/12 with Michael Finegan

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Nov/12

MikeLell - Solo dnf - 04/Nov/12

MaccMark - 13/Oct/12 with Tom Wild, Si Ward

jjclarke70 - Lead O/S - 09/Oct/12 with Saul

Hidden - 09/Oct/12

sheelba - AltLd - 06/Oct/12

elliptic - Solo - 06/Oct/12

rda72 - 2nd O/S - 05/Oct/12

Hidden - Lead - 01/Oct/12

Hidden - 16/Sep/12

r.greaves - AltLd - 15/Sep/12 with tony minette

SteveM - Solo - 08/Sep/12

Cc p1&3, tb p2&4. First and last pitches the pick of the bunch. Got a bit confused on where to at the end of p2 and p3 a strange scramble / walk. Really enjoyed pitch 4 though. Decided to walk to the top of Fach after, good fun but hard work with all the climbing stuff weighing us down.
birthers - AltLd O/S - 02/Sep/12 with Caroline C

caroline256 - AltLd O/S - 02/Sep/12 with Tom B

clint87 - Lead - 01/Sep/12

Khumbu King - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/12

Siobhan Vye - AltLd - Sep/12 with Tris Vye

Hidden - Lead - 23/Aug/12

Woody63 - 2nd - 23/Aug/12 with Dave W

Great First and last pitch,
Simon Cahill - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/12 with Tim

In big boots and pack.
demarcation86 - Lead O/S - 18/Aug/12 with John M

first climb
JAGM - 18/Aug/12 with demarcation86

scree - 12/Aug/12 with Gareth Lynn

Moomin.williams - AltLd - 11/Aug/12 with Jen T

Gazlynn - 11/Aug/12

danny33 - Solo - 10/Aug/12

Lead in trainers with Dave and Gemma coming on second. Gemma's first outdoor climb and car to car in sub-3 hours thanks to the sea of midges out.
ChalkBall - Lead O/S - Aug/12 with David Hunnisett

bowls - 2nd - Aug/12

Hidden - 27/Jul/12

led first climbing pitch . bad ankles and back spolied it for me.surprisingly stressful for a vdiff although first time out in many months was probably why .good route though especially final pitch definatly the crux
colina - AltLd - 27/Jul/12 with joss

Hidden - AltLd - 24/Jul/12

Good start and finish - pity about the middle scrambly/walkey bit
JasonV - AltLd - 21/Jul/12 with Dale

Hidden - Lead - 21/Jul/12

Retreated from top pitch as weather closed in.
simon geering - AltLd O/S - 20/Jul/12 with Michael M

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Jul/12

Hidden - 08/Jul/12

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Jul/12

chubbyclimber - AltLd - 07/Jul/12 with Andy McCoy

Hidden - Lead rpt - 07/Jul/12

Hidden - AltLd - 24/Jun/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jun/12

Doug Wilkie - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/12 with Olly Pirkis, Tom Musgrave

Hidden - 2nd - 15/Jun/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/12

Hidden - Solo O/S - 14/Jun/12

musgravet - AltLd O/S - 14/Jun/12 with Olly P, Doug Wilkie

Lead P1, 2nd P2, Solo P3, 2nd P4
the rec - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/12 with Steven Kedward, Jules

Nordic - 02/Jun/12 with Jodie Munks

AngelaThompson - 2nd - 30/May/12

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/May/12

Hidden - AltLd - 29/May/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/May/12

sheelba - 2nd - 27/May/12

fi15 - AltLd - 27/May/12

Hidden - Lead - 26/May/12

Led pitches 1&3. Easy ground on 2&3 split a very nice P1 and superb P4
lcullum7 - AltLd O/S - 25/May/12 with Sarah Acheson

SarahA - AltLd - 25/May/12

B2's in the rain, slippery and scary. looks like a great climb for a dry day.
Curly Rich - AltLd O/S - 19/May/12 with GMC Claire

guy757 - 14/May/12

arduff - AltLd - 13/May/12 with Chales Kennelly

Moved together with one belay at half height. Nice climb, bit polished and very windy. Lead 2nd half.
Danjones - AltLd O/S - 13/May/12 with Steve Keys

Bex_M - AltLd - 13/May/12 with Alys

Enjoyed first and last pitches the most but went off-route for a bit in the middle!
d80f0u - Lead - 12/May/12 with Jo

Lead pitches 1, 2 and 4.
Jamie Brown - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12 with Paul Davies

Puma - AltLd - 05/May/12 with Jamie Brown

Pissing down, hail stones, b3 boots. Slid off a couple of times just below the first belay then sacked it and abbed off. Misery
Matt Adey - 21/Apr/12

TCarrick - Solo - 15/Apr/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 15/Apr/12

P1 only. Big boots. Too cold. Had enough.
Dr Rorlasaurus - 2nd - 12/Apr/12 with Luke Wolsey

alexanderbeetle - Lead - 12/Apr/12 with Laura Edwards

Had to break trail through waist deep snow to get to it. Route was under a lot of snow/ice - absolutely superb Alpine feel, fun in floppy boots with no winter gear! Quite hard to get onto the route with the starting ramp under ice. Done as 3 pitches. A gem in winterish conditions
RKernan - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/12 with Sinéad Oakes

Amazing, great route felt harder than VDiff but perhaps that was because it was covered in snow.. awesome :)
Sinéad - 2nd O/S - 05/Apr/12 with Ronan Kernan

Hidden - 01/Apr/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/12

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Mar/12

marcusmarcus1 - Lead dnf - 23/Mar/12 with A Student (Work), Jamie Buttle

Did think this one felt a bit cheeky in places for a V Diff. Great last pitch tho.
ashsleight - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/12 with Wilky

Pitch 4 is a bit of a struggle onto the nose if you're only 5'4"!! We bailed out halfway up P4 due to freezing wind and slippy rock (Kiwi in big boots). Will return on a sunny day - lovley rock.
Babika - AltLd - 10/Mar/12 with Kiwi Pete

Wet rock, incredibly slippy, forget about hand jams! Climbed in 4 pitches with rucksacks and rock shoes, I led P1 and "Pitch" 3. Felt way more sketchy that VDiff but this is mainly due to the rain making smearing and jamming nigh on impossible.
JimboWizbo - AltLd - 12/Feb/12 with Jan

droberts - AltLd O/S - 17/Jan/12

joeflan - AltLd O/S - 17/Jan/12

samuel.stevens - AltLd - 17/Jan/12

Hidden - 08/Jan/12

Hidden - Lead - 2012

Hidden - AltLd - 2012

In the rain, my hardest ever route!
alan moore - 2012

Hidden - 2012

razzorbuzz - Lead O/S - 2012 with Marnie Lou

MikeDowsett - AltLd - 2012 with John Harrison

Conditions and starting late meant we had to abandon this. Excellent climb though
GuitarGenius92 - Lead dnf - 10/Dec/11 with Jonathan Hazell

benny_m - AltLd O/S - 20/Nov/11 with Su

Moved together
tomtom89 - 19/Nov/11 with Jack

Moved together
jac00 - 19/Nov/11 with Tom

Hidden - Lead dnf - 19/Nov/11

ali macphee - Lead - 19/Nov/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Nov/11

sambosanquet101 - AltLd - 02/Nov/11 with Hannah Fieldhouse

willieash - Lead O/S - Nov/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/Oct/11

btc - AltLd O/S - 15/Oct/11 with Hamish Rowe, Bob Workman

Robbie - AltLd O/S - 15/Oct/11 with Michael Sutemire

Hidden - Lead rpt - 14/Oct/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Oct/11

Second route of the day as part of teaching session with two students (Milestone in the morning). Weather was poor (very windy/rain showers) but students did very well and managed to lead all pitches without me having to take over. Lots of good teaching points made over the day (the pair's climbing ability was well above their knowledge of good belays/gear placements and had to re-arrange quite a bit before thr leader brought up second). Quite a stiff route for the grade and quite tricky in big boots in the wet! :)
carlh - 2nd - 02/Oct/11

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 01/Oct/11

Alpinehero - AltLd O/S - 01/Oct/11

Simonj - Lead O/S - 01/Oct/11 with vicky

Hidden - Lead - 01/Oct/11

magik_bob - Lead - Oct/11

Done in 3 pitches, I lead 1st and last.
pzkeeper - AltLd - 30/Sep/11 with Susie, Paul S

Big boot day! Great amble up a fun little climb, walking across it seemed a little contrived then once on it, it was just damn good fun.
Lil_Pete - AltLd O/S - 15/Sep/11 with Oliver Keynes

Did the first two pitches and the middle scramble, then decided it was a bit too windy and bailed out.
franny - 2nd dnf - 19/Aug/11 with Geraint Williams

Big boots, rucksacks and a little damp, followed by Cneifion arete, amazing day out
Joby - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/11 with Ollie Luff

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Aug/11

Gerallt Owain - Lead rpt - 05/Aug/11 with Arwel Elias, Cellan Lewis, Sion Lloyd

S1LL - 2nd - 05/Aug/11

LauraChilterns - 2nd dnf - 05/Aug/11 with Dominic Turner

lou_p - AltLd - 03/Aug/11 with Chris

adam clarke - AltLd - 30/Jul/11 with James Hulme

Managed to nab all the fun bits - great stuff.
Ramblin dave - AltLd O/S - 30/Jul/11 with Catherine

Done in 3 pitches plus a short final solo to top out. Led P2.
jadias - AltLd - 26/Jul/11 with Ian Bailey

eeonz - AltLd - 26/Jul/11 with James Ashworth

Top pitch only after walking over from Tarw
3kidsandanorton - Lead - 24/Jul/11 with Kay

Hidden - Solo - 14/Jul/11

kamikazejedi - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/11 with laura burton/james alcock

Very Traditional. Awesome day out. Felt really confident on the route which was good as not been out on the sharp end for a while. Good times. Well worth the day out, but was quite busy on route. Felt like Idwal.
RHarding - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/11 with Matt Reynolds

Pitch's 1 and 4 were excellent although tough for the grade
funkyvin1 - AltLd O/S - 09/Jul/11

brilliant route except for the the fact that the bottom half doesnt match up with the top half. fun mooves throughout in a brilliant setting with stunning views!
Webster - Solo O/S - 09/Jul/11

kristinawe - AltLd - 04/Jul/11

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 30/Jun/11

Hidden - Solo - 30/Jun/11

Brilliant end of the day kinda route. Lovely easy climbing on good holds and great evening views. Ash went up the arête and Emit went 4 meters left of the arete. Both routes knocking the grade up. All agreed it was more like a steady Severe. Lovely
wishicud climbHVS - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/11 with Ash Crazy fool Green, Emmit the boss Andrews, Big Fat Dan

good route, interesting climbing on good rock
bigdan050 - AltLd O/S - 26/Jun/11 with emmit

Lovely climb on an eventually good day snatched from the grasp of the insistent North Wales rain-gods.
agagsgrot - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/11 with Thomas

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 16/Jun/11

ross brinson - Lead - 15/Jun/11

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 11/Jun/11

As part of MIA teaching prep with Chris & Paul. Traversed over from Slabs and linked with Hope. A good combination.
carlh - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/11

Not a great idea when wet...
ChrisWills - 2nd - 30/May/11 with Kyle Worgan

Lead pitches 1 & 4 (3 is a walk across) in big boots + rucksac, then on to Cneifion Arete. Good day.
john_ni - Lead O/S - 29/May/11 with Sheldon Webb

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/May/11

carl_123 - Lead O/S - 28/May/11 with good taff

Only did P1 as the weather closed down (torrential rain and gail force winds). With 4 beginner climbers. Good mountain experience - but not much climbing for anyone
climbingrev - Lead O/S - 21/May/11

ross brinson - Lead - 21/May/11

Hidden - AltLd - 18/May/11

Big boots, and a bit damp, which made it a bit interesting.
HIGHTOWER - Lead O/S - 14/May/11 with Chris Campbell, Danny Attwood

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/May/11

Led P2,4. Started in big boots, switched to rock shoes for the final pitch. Very cold and windy. The plan was to continue up Glyder Fach via Gamma and Hawk's Nest Buttress, but it started raining just as we got to the foot of Gamma so we bailed.
Monkey_Alan - AltLd O/S - 14/May/11 with Viskii Chicu

Mike_T0501 - 2nd - 07/May/11

Tried it in book boots in the wet, but quickly decided to come back down for rock shoes. After P1 the pub was calling too loud to ignore.
bullethead - Lead dnf - 07/May/11 with Sam, Richard Yorke

rbyrne84 - AltLd - 04/May/11

Hidden - AltLd - 03/May/11

fishinwater - AltLd - 30/Apr/11 with Rob H

fleapitfan - AltLd - 30/Apr/11

Very busy! Lovely climb. Finished up Cneifion Arete. Nice day out.
spooksthehorse - Lead - 30/Apr/11 with Emma

Prof Rock - 2nd - 30/Apr/11 with Sarah Flint, Rob Horler

Following 'Scrambles & Easy Climbs' went off route AGAIN. After second pitch it should just say 'walk up and right over heather and grass ledges to start of rib on right' The third pitch they describe is a rubbish scramble and led us to then climb the central rib which is poor Diff.
Duncan Beard - AltLd dnf - 29/Apr/11 with Dave Smith

RhedwrMynydd - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/11

RikWolves - Lead - 24/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead - 22/Apr/11

matjam - AltLd - 20/Apr/11

Hidden - Solo rpt - 20/Apr/11

georgenvk - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11

DaveAllen - 2nd O/S - 16/Apr/11 with Andy Parkinson

Sweet route. Great slabby ribby climbing. Lead p1 and 3. In 3 long pitches! Finished up cneifion arete. Great day out.,
tompilgrem - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Dad

In 3 long pitches-lead P2 direct up a nice rib and then easy traverse to 'nose' belay beneath P3. Lovely easy mountain multi pitch.
bobpilgrem - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/11 with Bob/Tom

Led P2 and the excellent crux P4. Shame the middle of the route is so broken and scrappy.
CathS - AltLd rpt - 09/Apr/11 with Dave Payne

Hidden - Lead - 09/Apr/11

Scratch_29 - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/11

Elby - 2nd - Apr/11 with Graham, Dan

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/11

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Mar/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Mar/11

Great fun. Tom seconded final pitch with a headtorch!
Cardi - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Tom E

Gerallt Owain - AltLd O/S - 22/Mar/11 with Steve Chapman

stevechaps1 - AltLd - 22/Mar/11 with Gerallt Owain

John took lead on first pitch, felt at hard end of VDiff. I took the variation on the left hand rib for the second pitch, felt harder than VDiff.
rig - AltLd dnf - 19/Mar/11 with John Stibbard

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Mar/11

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Mar/11

Some nice sections split by grassy ledges. Superb position and a great sunny day for early March! What mountain days are all about.
richardr - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/11 with K

LardClimber - 2nd - 20/Feb/11

Some good moves in exposed positions.
Scott McRae - Lead O/S - 20/Feb/11 with James Dynes

megans first multi pitch and the first of 2011
minus273degrees - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/11 with megan

good fun
theking696 - Lead - Feb/11

EliotStephens - 2nd O/S - 28/Jan/11 with Thomas Moore

Hidden - Lead - 23/Jan/11

Homes - AltLd - Jan/11 with Jonny C, Sam A

robcrowther - AltLd O/S - 2011

dan ely - Solo O/S - 2011

dan ely - Solo O/S - 2011

YnysHir - 2nd O/S - 2011 with Tony

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2nd - 2011

neal_haddadway - Lead O/S - 2011 with Olly Way

Had a go at leading it in B3s - first time using them! Heavy rain during walk in. Partner decided was too slippy after doing 3 meters, so I gave it a go and got up first pitch after much foot dragging and a long time! Suffice to say I agreed with him, not one for big boots, so we abbed off. Will come back in summer!
Stuart Hurworth - AltLd dnf - 16/Dec/10 with Marcus Levens

Hidden - AltLd - 16/Dec/10

trad first pitch, short roped rest all in boots on wet rock
jcook1980 - 2nd O/S - 11/Dec/10 with Dan Walker

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Nov/10

mr random - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Paul Greenhead

I led first pitch, Simon did rest moving together
MJP - AltLd O/S - 06/Nov/10 with Simon Binnie

PaulGreenhead - AltLd - 06/Nov/10 with Bernie Sosin

First few pitches up to the the nose.
lottiec - 2nd β - 05/Nov/10

Danny Crump - Lead O/S - 05/Nov/10 with Lottie, Richard Vaughan, Sarah Pentelow

LiL Saz - 2nd - 05/Nov/10 with Danny Crump

Clay C - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/10 with Steve Gibbs

steve_gibbs - 2nd O/S - 31/Oct/10 with Clay C

Hidden - AltLd - 30/Oct/10

Lead second and third pitches, in 50mph wind gusts and rain.
PieMan - AltLd O/S - 28/Oct/10 with Jim

Hidden - 22/Oct/10

Valentino - AltLd O/S - 16/Oct/10

khumbu-Kid - AltLd O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Valentino

Excellent climb in excellent conditions. Classic Vdiff. Pitched the 1st and last pitch but scrambled the rest.
flapjack_franky - Lead O/S - 12/Oct/10 with Dave Franklin

Dave Franklin - 2nd rpt - 12/Oct/10 with richard franklin

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Oct/10

A great route and away from the busy slabs. 1st pitch was greasy which made it interesting. Had to down climb last pitch as ran out of light. Will come back to finish it off though.
monkeyboyraw - Lead O/S - 08/Oct/10 with Stroudy

rockover - Lead O/S - Oct/10

Lead this as four pitches (SV seconding). Pitch four felt pretty tough for a VD.
MatthewV - Lead O/S - 26/Sep/10 with Sally

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Sep/10

Followed Dan up to start of traverse in two pitches. We had lunch then all soloed across traverse and I led the top pitch, which was awesome :oD
graphiclunarkid - AltLd O/S - 26/Sep/10 with arctic jen, dpmUK

arctic_jen - 2nd - 26/Sep/10 with Rich, Dan

sally_v - 2nd - 26/Sep/10 with Matthew

1st and last pitch, nice multi pitch
Bumblebee Biggs - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/10

Hidden - AltLd - 04/Sep/10

LaLa08 - 2nd O/S - 03/Sep/10 with Chris

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/10

r.greaves - Lead - 22/Aug/10 with stu jones

Hidden - AltLd - 21/Aug/10

simrocks - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/10

Caralynh - AltLd - 08/Aug/10 with Jez Hadall

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/10

Nicholas Livesey - AltLd - 08/Aug/10 with Lucie Sedlarova

willoates - Lead O/S - 31/Jul/10 with dad

sausage - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/10 with Duncan Ferguson

Duncan Ferguson - 2nd O/S - 30/Jul/10 with sausage

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Jul/10

Soled the first pitch whilst waiting for Ed, John and Chris to descend to bottom. Then climbed Scimitar Crack as first pitch and finished up this route
rfdl100 - Lead O/S - 03/Jul/10 with Edward Woo

mike_uk82 - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/10

PanzerHanzler - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/10 with Sheila Norman

Did it in two pitches bottom and top, scrambled the rest, a 3* route and delicate climbing for the grade.
Jamie Light - AltLd O/S - 17/Jun/10 with Aiden Bark-Connell

Hidden - Lead - 17/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Jun/10

Took direct scramble route past the standing stone to avoid finishing in dark. Took nasty descent route right of the buttress - steep and screedy.
jogwen - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/10 with Rhys Alun Williams

Rhys_Alun - AltLd O/S - 15/Jun/10 with Jo Gwen

2nd V Diff lead
Clogwyn y Gwin - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/10 with K J

Keith Jones - 2nd - 12/Jun/10 with Tecwyn

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 05/Jun/10

sthame - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/10 with Oliver Porter

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/10

tallan9 - AltLd - Jun/10

lovely route. led pitches 1 and most of 4. took belay near top of pitch 4 as in danger of running out of rope.
nikinko - AltLd O/S - 31/May/10 with Maggie, Jayne

NewLeaf - AltLd - 31/May/10 with nikki

jaynejacko - 2nd O/S - 31/May/10 with Nikki N.S.T

Jayne Jackson - 2nd O/S - 31/May/10 with Nikki King

Stephen Halliday - AltLd β - 30/May/10 with Neil Halliday

cooper leek - Lead O/S - 30/May/10 with dawn

neilhalliday - AltLd O/S - 30/May/10 with Stephen Halliday

Hidden - Lead - 23/May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/May/10

Hidden - Solo O/S - 20/May/10

Hidden - AltLd - 20/May/10

John Foster - Lead O/S - 19/May/10 with Ed

Hidden - 10/May/10

Od - AltLd O/S - 09/May/10 with Martyn "Noodles" Middleton

Led pitch 1
Noodles - AltLd - 09/May/10 with Oliver Ruffle (O.d)

Knoxy - Lead O/S - 03/May/10 with Gareth Pierce

Hidden - 2nd - 02/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/May/10

craig h - 2nd O/S - 01/May/10 with Janet Hannah

TimPerkin - AltLd O/S - 01/May/10 with Mark Perkin

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 29/Apr/10

Lawrence Eccles - Solo O/S - 18/Apr/10 with A. Crook

Hidden - AltLd - 17/Apr/10

NickD - AltLd - 11/Apr/10 with Pete Frost

Climbed in boots until last pitch. Attempted in boots but backed off just after crux move as it turned out. Partner climbed fine in stickies and I seconded with no issues.
theycallmefrodo - AltLd RP - 11/Apr/10 with Craig Garfield

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Apr/10

Great day out. Went on to Cneifion Arête.
Pete_Frost - AltLd O/S - 11/Apr/10 with Nick Davies

chubbyclimber - AltLd - 10/Apr/10 with Karl Carter

Albino - AltLd - 10/Apr/10 with Tim Simpkins

fizzychewitt - AltLd - 09/Apr/10 with Gwyneth

Gwyneth - AltLd - 09/Apr/10 with Liz

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/10

Excellent first outing on rock - end of winter '10 season, cold but dry. Climbed in alpine style (boots and pack)
danny269 - TR - 07/Apr/10

mfisher - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/10 with Matthew Jeffock

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/10

managed to do the climb before the weather turned, awesome in the snow! last time out im sure it didn't seem this hard
snakes77 - 2nd O/S - 02/Apr/10 with Monkey1

Slightly trickier than It was in Summer due to greasy rock, snow, and seepage. Very slow progress and ran out of quickdraws on pitch 1 and 4! made a mess of rope work and gear placements on pitch 4 wich resulted in severe ropedrag, no quick draws, then gear pulling out beneath me. Scary 20m run out on wet rock! Still great route though. Weather stopped us going up to finish with the Arete
monkey1 - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/10 with Snakes77

Hidden - AltLd - 15/Mar/10

climbing_rocks1983 - Lead O/S - 24/Jan/10 with Kieran

Moving together with Cass leading.
simozzer - 23/Jan/10 with Cass

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jan/10

done in B3 boots,good little route,espeically if no ice left to climb :-(
tscoobydoo - AltLd O/S - Jan/10 with phillip belcher

tjhare1 - 2010

laurentb - 2010

sionjosh - 2010

Hidden - Lead - 2010

Plenty of snow with a bit of artistic licence on the route finding front! Done alpine style in our boots.
andy dunn - Solo - 28/Nov/09 with J

Bitterly cold, wet and greasy, driving sleet and 60 mph gusts. Avoided the start of upper rib in interests of getting up and off quickly.
pnorth - AltLd - 26/Nov/09 with Tim Ewington

In wind driven rain. I led first pitch (and a half) then we scrambled to the base of the final nose which Stewart led, proper traditional.
The Ivanator - AltLd O/S - 31/Oct/09 with Stewart

moving together with my mate josh. gud funski
Dave Searle - Lead - 27/Oct/09

Fonz led a 50m pitch - slippery start in big boots. I led the final pitch - nice route, interesting in big boots lovel day :-)
gilbert - AltLd O/S - 18/Oct/09 with fonz

jamesh - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09 with Emily Price

Hidden - Solo O/S - 25/Sep/09

Hidden - Solo O/S - 25/Sep/09

Mutl3y - AltLd - 20/Sep/09 with Clog

Hidden - Solo O/S - 19/Sep/09

Katie Marshall - Lead - 13/Sep/09 with Stu and Krystina

An interesting day. Bit of an (embarrasing) epic :)Mark lead the first 4m or so, then I lead past him. Rock very greasy; didn't help that it rained as I lead. I could't get up the corner, put in two pieces of gear and slowly downclimbed/lowered to Mark's belay at pinacles. Mark led again followed by me who lead to a ledge. Couldn't climb higher as rock too greasy. I set up a belay, brought mark up and lower him off the route whilst he tested the ab rope. Mark climbed round and dropped a rope to me. I ab'd the 25m down the gully on a 50m rope (to avoid an ab' from the pinnacle and having to leave gear behind.
Katie86 - AltLd dnf - 10/Sep/09 with Mark

Ben Hollands - AltLd O/S - 05/Sep/09 with Chris Harding

gareth scott borthwick - Solo O/S - 22/Aug/09

KevinJ - 2nd - 22/Aug/09 with Jimmy Q

Becky E - 2nd - 22/Aug/09 with Phil Lee

Hidden - 2nd β - 21/Aug/09

Middle section a little scrapy. Good first pitch and last pitch.
Martyn - AltLd - 17/Aug/09 with Victoria Cassell

mack1 - AltLd - 08/Aug/09 with dan lancaster

Climbed with Mike and his nephew Joe who was out on the rock for the first time. I lead each pitch and then brought mike and joe up as seconds. Nice route and god chance to me to do a load of leading. once we topped out we walked along to the Cneifion Arete and made a full day of it!
si_green99 - Lead O/S - 05/Aug/09 with mike morgan

simozzer - AltLd - 02/Aug/09 with Matt

rocklobster - AltLd - 02/Aug/09 with Simon

This finished off the weekend ! pitch 1 and 4 made the weekend , dare i say it more fun than the mighty grooved arete?
snakes77 - 2nd O/S - 01/Aug/09 with Monkey1

Pitch 1 - Good, Pitch 2 - Average, Pitch 3 - Poor, Pitch 4 - Perhaps the best at the grade in the valley? Great route, far better than I thought - absolutely loved the last pitch, exposed, sustained, on immaculate rock. Described as 35m in guide book but almost ran out 50m rope. This route would go in the wet
monkey1 - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/09 with Snakes77

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/Jul/09

Hidden - Lead - 19/Jul/09

Moving together training for Alps
snakebite - AltLd O/S - 19/Jul/09 with Matt Reynolds

Hidden - Lead rpt - 10/Jul/09

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Jul/09

tractorbachcoch - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/09 with Andy Chapman, Teresa

Lady T - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/09 with Andy, Iwan

cjohn62 - AltLd - 13/Jun/09 with andy

Hidden - Lead - 05/Jun/09

vanderz - Solo O/S - 02/Jun/09

Celebrated my 71st birthday ,lead all the way found the climb delightful, a nice ending to a good day out, went to the pub after for a few beers, Roy Haythornthwaite
zigzag - Lead O/S - Jun/09 with Frank Pollard, Mark Martland

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 31/May/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/May/09

Hidden - Lead - 29/May/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 28/May/09

Ian Jones with Dave Brewer
cas smerdon - Lead - 28/May/09 with Rob Anstey

Hidden - AltLd - 28/May/09

Wet, slippy, delicate and a nightmare in big boots. Got fed up using my knees and climbed just in socks. Worked a treat.
Steerpike - AltLd dog - 27/May/09 with Tommo

Stuart Macfarlane - AltLd O/S - 24/May/09 with Jeanie

coffeepot - AltLd O/S - 24/May/09 with jelaby

jelaby - AltLd O/S - 23/May/09 with CoffeePot

The_Boy_ODwyer - 2nd O/S - 23/May/09 with Tom C & Nick

Led P1 and P3. Mart led P2 belaying short of the usual stance. Scrambled off from base of P4 after Mart fell on lead, the weather had turned at this point so all involved were grateful to descend.
Dinger - AltLd dnf - 03/May/09 with Martin and Dan

benparratt - AltLd O/S - May/09

first pitch a bit polished and awkward, middle rather bitty, but the final pitch was fantastic
no_more_scotch_eggs - AltLd O/S - 19/Apr/09 with tamsin

Climbed alpine style in boots. Good 1st and excellent last (High in VD grade)pitches but broken & messy between.
jandyd05 - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09 with Julie Anglesea

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/09

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/09

markburgin83 - AltLd - 13/Apr/09 with TonyBBBB

Allan climbing 1 st pitch. Amazing route.
Neil Metcalfe101 - AltLd - 12/Apr/09 with Allan Mac

treeminkies - Lead - 12/Apr/09 with carole

Justin Tracey - Lead - 11/Apr/09 with Katy Charlesworth

ross duffield - AltLd - 11/Apr/09 with row

dannymoo99 - AltLd - 10/Apr/09 with Tom Shooter

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Apr/09

Had to escape after 1st pitch, as 3rd man had forgottton rock shoes and couldn't get past first bulge. I abbed down to try to heelp, but he had to go off right. Was pleasant while it lasted though.
Shandy - Lead dnf - 04/Apr/09 with Mike Rogers

jwpil - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/09 with Mat

Fantastic climbing, Pitches 2, and three are not much but a scramble. However Pitch 4 around the nose is very interesting on lead probably a severe.
Onion magnet - AltLd O/S - 04/Apr/09 with Jack

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Apr/09

Hidden - Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd - Apr/09

dswansonlow - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/09 with John Scarrot

alpine style!
jacobjlloyd - 2nd O/S - 30/Mar/09 with Dougie

tbs105 - 30/Mar/09

Really fun climb- mostly slabby on v. rough rock. Led p1, 3+4
hils theaker - AltLd - 18/Mar/09 with Adam

great route, donno what all those poeple where doing queuing for idwal slabs... theres lots of awesome easy routes about.
adam06 - AltLd - 18/Mar/09 with Hilary Theaker

Hidden - 15/Mar/09

Hidden - Lead - 15/Mar/09

ZA - 2nd - Feb/09 with sam smith

Hidden - 2009

Hidden - 2009

Rob Evans - Lead O/S - 2009

Good lead from Christina in the snow!
NickD - 2nd - 02/Nov/08 with Christina and Isa

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Nov/08

Hidden - Lead - 22/Oct/08

igneouscarl - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/08

Rustyshanks - AltLd O/S - Oct/08 with D Haynes

Started up the smooth rib to the right of the normal start in order to avoid another party (of 3).
JamieAyres - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/08 with Nigel Evans

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/Aug/08

Nice - really nice. Lead second and fourth pitches. Need to work on route finding, the fourth pitch should have followed the OBVIOUS crack, not the small crack directly up the nose. Still, great climbing.
dfbpdave - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/08 with Phil & Becky

Hidden - AltLd - 23/Aug/08

adamscottthomas - AltLd O/S - 04/Aug/08 with Ellen Taylor

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/08

asmith37 - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/08 with Bex Leigh

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/08

Hidden - AltLd - 25/Jul/08

2nd time in the day, 12 runners on a 125 meter route!
Twisty - Lead rpt - 23/Jul/08 with Dr. H, Andy, Andy Millington

First in the day, a tad sun Wales!
Twisty - Lead rpt - 23/Jul/08 with Alexander Stock, Sam

Hidden - Lead - 20/Jul/08

First and last pitches.
Oli - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/08 with Lee

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/08

ron244 - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/08 with Phil

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 04/Jul/08

donkster - Lead O/S - Jul/08 with DaveNW

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Jun/08

tedburt - AltLd rpt - 28/Jun/08 with Steve Bush

hurl - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/08 with Sarah

big boots, made the last pitch a little more difficult...
benman - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/08 with roger m

mjeffery - AltLd rpt - 12/Jun/08

Climbed in three pitches. First pitch of 40m was nice with a good belay on a large flake with good views. Second pitch of 50m rather rough, heathery and scrambly. Third pitch was a delight, if a little bold in places for a VDiff but thoroughly enjoyable. Hardly any polish!
sstanier - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/08 with Sophie Adshead

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/08

andy jennings - AltLd O/S - Jun/08 with Momber

Big boots
tedburt - Solo O/S - 31/May/08

Nicholas Livesey - AltLd - 25/May/08 with Jamie Griggs and Jim Hobson

mjeffery - Solo O/S - 15/May/08

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/May/08

last pitch
Ewan Russell - Lead O/S - 10/May/08 with Mike(dad)+fraser

Hidden - 2nd - 10/May/08

fordie77 - 2nd - 04/May/08 with A Brookes

AlastairB - Lead O/S - 04/May/08 with Sarah Ford

griggj - AltLd O/S - May/08 with nicholas livesey and the nobz

freemanTom - AltLd - May/08 with Richard Henton

peter myers - Lead O/S - May/08 with Jim Bob Derry

Hidden - 2nd β - 14/Apr/08

Hidden - Lead dnf - 06/Apr/08

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Mar/08

climbed together
Ben1983 - Lead O/S - 09/Feb/08

alun1111 - Lead - 09/Feb/08

Dominic Ross - AltLd - Jan/08 with Simon Patton

1st and last pitch are OK, in between is a bit scrappy
Ronnie Concave - Lead - 2008 with M.Borglewood

Matt Vigg - Solo - 2008

guy stabler - 2008

Hidden - 2008

best climb ever with the continuation
jamie-annetts - Lead O/S - 2008

emlynroberts - Lead - 2008 with Karoliina Koivisto, Evi

Hidden - Lead - 2008

Hidden - AltLd - 15/Dec/07

Hidden - AltLd - Dec/07

Did in 3 big pitches. A hidden gem, which is surprising as it's so close the crowds of Idwal Slabs.
mark20 - AltLd O/S - 23/Oct/07

I led first, did in 3 pitches.
tiga271 - AltLd - 23/Oct/07 with Mark

Calder - AltLd O/S - 22/Oct/07 with Dave

Hidden - AltLd - 30/Sep/07

Marq - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/07 with Shona Wildman, Kim S

great fun
laurencehicks - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/07 with kev

tanssop - Lead O/S - 15/Sep/07 with Julie

DannyK - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/07 with Katie

Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 26/Aug/07 with Pete aka Dad

Good value for a V Diff
George Ormerod - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/07 with Clare W

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/07

1philjones1 - Lead - Aug/07 with Ange

simon_williams6 - Aug/07

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Jul/07

Climbed 'Alpine Style', moving together.
Jamie Light - AltLd O/S - 07/Jul/07 with Matt Griffin

bearded goat man joined us at the top!
Ian Broome - Lead - 07/Jul/07 with Tanya

Hidden - 2nd - 07/Jul/07

Stig - AltLd rpt - 24/Jun/07 with Charlie Reade-Jahn

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/07

djbeaumont - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/07 with pete

alwyn101 - AltLd O/S - 08/Jun/07 with Colin Barwell

Hidden - Lead - 04/Jun/07

stoptheclocks03 - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/07 with Jacqui Savage

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/07

Hidden - 2nd dnf - Jun/07

victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 26/May/07 with Avril

Carly - AltLd O/S - 18/May/07 with sophie

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/May/07

the juicy dangler - AltLd O/S - 14/May/07 with james marjot

aturner99 - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/07 with P Manuel

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Apr/07

Hidden - Solo O/S - 14/Apr/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 14/Apr/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/07

Neilfrherts - Lead O/S - 07/Apr/07 with Sean

tobydunford - Solo O/S - 06/Apr/07

default_slipper - Solo O/S - Apr/07 with tom sparkes

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Mar/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/07

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Mar/07

Alex Thompson - 2nd O/S - 24/Feb/07 with Jon Thompson

fran04 - AltLd - 2007

Sean Kelly - 2007

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2007

Rachael Barlow - AltLd - 2007 with Suzie Wilson

Keith Jones - AltLd - 02/Nov/06 with ali, David

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Nov/06

Cameron13 - Solo O/S - 30/Sep/06

FrankW - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/06 with Laura

Eccie lead 1st pitch and slipped on wet rock. I led 2nd and 3rd as one pitch.
beegsyboy - AltLd O/S - 07/Sep/06 with Eccie

took my first fall. went off route and slipped on wet rock, that'll learn me!
Neil Mackenzie - AltLd - 07/Sep/06 with Tim

jl - Lead O/S - 27/Aug/06 with Penny

pennyb - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/06 with Jon

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/06 with Famke Ashmore, John Haslam

Went off route in the rain on the final pitch and had a scary time, well run out and slipping over wet grass looking for a belay.
Pelleas - AltLd - 17/Apr/06 with Adrian

malc - AltLd O/S - 14/Apr/06 with AP

Ian McNeill - 2006

Keith Jones - 2nd - 04/Oct/05 with Martin, David

Si dH - Lead rpt - 08/Sep/05 with Tim Taylor

Hidden - Lead - Sep/05

Mike Parker - AltLd O/S - 25/Aug/05 with Dan + Jerry + Matty

matty harrison - AltLd - 25/Aug/05 with Mike Parker

TGreen - Lead O/S - 13/Aug/05 with Martin G

Climbed in 3 long pitches, I took the first (40m) Carmen the others (45m and 35m)
Simon Caldwell - AltLd O/S - 07/Aug/05 with Carmen

Hidden - AltLd - Aug/05

bms - AltLd - 14/Jul/05 with DW

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Jul/05

Hidden - AltLd - Jun/05

Rampikino - Lead - 30/May/05 with MMC Various

Nice top pitch, but otherwise felt a bit broken
CathS - AltLd O/S - 30/May/05 with Roger Dyke

Hidden - 14/May/05

Hidden - Lead - 14/May/05

Hidden - Lead - 04/Apr/05

Hidden - Lead - 2005

Hidden - 2nd - Aug/04

Hidden - Lead - Apr/04

Neil Curtis - AltLd rpt - 24/Aug/03 with Alan Barnes

nicholas Barrowclough - Solo - 25/Jun/03

caradoc - Lead - 14/Mar/03 with nick yapp

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2003

Whealiebob - AltLd - 01/Aug/02 with Ste and Chris

Hidden - 2nd - 2002

Jonny M - AltLd O/S - 2002 with Gwilym Satchell

Hidden - 2002

aged_ape - AltLd O/S - Sep/01 with KC

Gman - AltLd O/S - Jul/01 with Eamon

Neil Curtis - AltLd O/S - 24/Jun/01 with Arthur Austin

Hidden - Lead - 22/Jun/01

Tony Buckley - AltLd - Sep/00

Hidden - AltLd - 20/Aug/00

jmr - AltLd - Aug/00 with Ian Atkins

Mark Salter - Solo - 30/Apr/00

Brazzer - 2nd O/S - Apr/00 with Ben Tufnell

Urgles - AltLd O/S - Apr/00 with Laura

Hidden - Lead O/S - 2000

Dave Toseland - Lead O/S - 2000 with Huw

Hidden - AltLd - Jun/99

dodders - Solo - Sep/98 with Dick Hargreaves

Hidden - Solo - 07/Mar/98

Ian Robertson - AltLd - 03/May/97 with Krystina Lotoczko

Ian Robertson - AltLd - 03/May/97 with Krystina Lotoczko

Led in big boots.
iskra2000 - AltLd - 02/Nov/96 with William Hustwit, Alistair Ward

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 15/Sep/96

Hidden - Lead - 05/May/96

Hidden - AltLd - 07/Apr/96

Mike_T0501 - AltLd O/S - 07/Apr/96

Big boots.
iskra2000 - AltLd - 20/Jan/96 with Erlend Williamson

Ian Archer - AltLd - 29/Oct/95 with Paul Rogers

Hidden - Lead - 14/Sep/95

stokienomad - Lead - 08/Jul/95

andy@ark - AltLd - Jul/95 with Tim Hall

Tony Prendergast - Oct/94 with Susan Oldfield

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/May/94

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/May/93

DavPk - AltLd - 1993 with Gareth Wood

Hidden - Solo - Feb/90

Ched - Lead O/S - 1990 with Glyn

Marti999 - Lead - 1990

babymoac - AltLd - 10/Dec/89 with Ken Prandy

Led 1&2, soloed 3, 2nd 4. Previously soloed 3&4 on 4/5/85
Iain Thow - AltLd - 24/Oct/87 with Steve Ball, Phil Moorey

rogerskews - AltLd - 09/Mar/85 with John Blackburn

nigehughes - Lead - Jul/84 with Adrian Hughes

Hidden - Solo β - Sep/83

Hidden - Lead - 29/Aug/83

Nigel Bond - Lead - 29/Dec/82 with Nick

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Oct/82

Mark Kemball - AltLd - 19/Nov/78 with Bob Millward

mikej - AltLd - 31/Oct/76 with Geoff Williams

Bolt Phobia - Solo - 28/Sep/75 with John Broadwell

Hidden - Jul/75

leland stamper - Solo O/S - Apr/75

Gordon Stainforth - AltLd - 01/Aug/68 with John Stainforth

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