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Suicide Wall Route 1*** E2 5c

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[After the crux of Suicide Wall R2, 1 kb]No description has been contributed for this climb.

Ticklists: Extreme Rock, North Wales Rock Graded List, Extreme Rock "Wall" Routes, North Wales 100 Classic Climbs, Ultimate E2 ticklist.

Photo: After the crux of Suicide Wall R2 © dhwsa
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PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 154 logbooks, and on 44 wishlists.

Hidden - 2nd dog - 30/Jun/14

Hidden - Lead β - 26/Jun/14

Rachel Slater - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/14 with Anna Gilyeat

outstanding, I can't believe how bold they used to be.
GuyVG - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/14 with Liam P, oli, 5c Steve

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Jun/14

Ed Booth - Lead rpt - 14/Jun/14 with Anna Pugh

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/14

Ed F - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/13 with Will sim

mr mills - Lead rpt - 21/Jul/13 with edwin

LRob - Lead β - 21/Jul/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/13

AlexD - Lead O/S - 19/Jul/13 with Alasdair

Brilliant climbing on an intimidating bit of rock! Start felt very hard but the rest was steady.
climbingpixie - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/13 with Amy, Maria

Lovely climb, first moves a bit tricky (long reach helpful but not essential as Julie proved!) then steady. Would have been freaked out on lead though, gear is spaced and not brilliant.
maria85 - 2nd O/S - 17/Jul/13 with Julie, Amy

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/13

dominic lee - Lead O/S - 07/Jul/13 with molly, nathan lee

Thought the crux was hard, a bit blind and bold (above a poor micro cam). Turned out I'd actually started up the E5! Explains why it was a bit licheney. Crux was hard 5c moving left into the correct line. Probably a bit harder than the proper start. The rest was no pushover but reasonably protected where it mattered. A good route. Walked off as a guy was starting the E5 below the ab - a bit muddy but ok.
Misha - Lead O/S - 06/Jul/13 with Ed

eduardo - 2nd O/S - 06/Jul/13 with Misha

alex lead dry and chalked
alasdair19 - 2nd - Jul/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd - 06/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead β - Jun/13

Inspired to this after watching someone put about twenty runners in. Must have been RP's because all I found were two poor wires before the ledge then wobbled up the crux with a half in rock two. Relieved to reach the spike but it moved so managed without...
alan moore - 2012

captain dringo - 2012

Nick Sillem - 2012

found 1 bomber runner at the end...... awesome route though
Ollie B - Lead O/S - 30/Sep/11 with C.Radford

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/11

cool and intersting start moves with the rucksack...!
CRiddiford - 2nd - 30/Jul/11 with Jonny, Libby

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Jul/11

JRae - Lead - 30/Jul/11 with C Riddiford, Libby K

robinsi197 - 2nd - 30/Jul/11 with Nick

Ok but positive moves and very little good gear... scary! Unsure of whether I would be able to do Capital Punishment after feeling terrifyed on this!
Duncan Campbell - UKC - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/11 with Mason

chriscarroll - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/11 with Max Stanley

benchwarmer - 2nd rpt - 14/Jul/11 with Konrad

benchwarmer - Lead O/S - 04/Jul/11 with Calum Musket

Nice climbing
owain86 - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with Alex Mason

metal arms - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11

saet1a - 2nd O/S - 30/Apr/11

Thought the so called crux at the bottom was a bit of a breeze to be honest. The top half went pretty steady, although some of the gear placements are a bit... ahem... dubious shall we say!
Cragrat Rich - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/11

Nice route, easy for the grade.
Fire Marshall - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/11 with Cragrat Rich

centurion05 - 2011

Jack Geldard - UKC Chief Editor - 2011

Rory Shaw - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

pasbury - 2011

HamishD - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/10 with Alex

Cracking route, steady with just enough gear. Hit the finishing holds just as the rain came....made it interesting for my dad seconding.
Owain Llewelyn - Lead - 27/Aug/10 with Dad

akhughes - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/10 with Jonnie Stocking

Gear very poor, scary
Sam W - Lead - 19/Jun/10 with Carissa

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10

Shauna - 2nd O/S - 23/May/10 with Jules

JulesV - Lead O/S - 22/May/10 with Shauna Cunningham

Seconded in 2005 or 2006. really good, very bold for E2.
Alex Mason - Lead rpt - 23/Apr/10 with Laura Perry

titchbach - 2nd - Apr/10

Hidden - 2010

josh william legg - Lead - 2010

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Sep/09

harvie - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 09/Jul/09

Hardest bit is off the deck. Then move off right hand side of ledge seemed pretty unprotected (maybe ok with specific micros).
Dan 85 - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/09 with Pete & Josh

awesome. pretty steady really.
Ed Booth - 2nd O/S - 25/May/09

Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 25/May/09 with Ed Booth

Hidden - Lead - May/09

Scary and run out with relatively straight forward climbing
mattyork2 - Lead O/S - 21/Apr/09 with Henry Fairhurst and John Vincent

dan gibson - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/09

Luke Brooks - Lead rpt - 05/Apr/09 with Dave

feilx - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/08 with Floris

near dropped nuts again
barni - Lead - 20/Sep/08 with Cal

dodfoster - Lead O/S - 19/Sep/08 with patrick mcbride

start felt serious but ultimately steady. great climbing all the way with sufficient gear and a superb pocketed second half. first route of the day
ksjs - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/08 with jo

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/May/08

datoon - Lead O/S - 18/May/08 with K & RT

HughM - 2nd O/S - May/08 with Ben Bamford

Matt Vigg - 2008

tuftynick - 2008

jeffmcd56 - Lead O/S - 2008 with Wez

The gear was much worse than I thought it would be, and I thought it would be bad.
Luke Brooks - Lead O/S - 19/Apr/07 with Neil Pope

Hidden - Lead O/S - Apr/07

Hidden - 2007

IOAN D - Lead O/S - 16/Jul/06 with Mills

Last climb of a quality Wales trip. Bit of a spooky/perculiar note to leave on but good none the less.
Ram MkiV - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/06 with Alex

Bold!
Andrew Barker - Lead O/S - May/06 with Alex Fry

haydng - Lead O/S - 2006

Chad123 - Lead O/S - 2005 with Ben

Hidden - Lead - 28/Aug/04

spidey - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/03 with gruff

On BMC International Meet. Led first by a chap from Finland who kindly left the gear in for me. Not that there was very much!
Dave Musgrove - Lead β - May/02 with Katherine Schirmacher

The Pylon King - 2nd O/S - Apr/02 with Fiend

Bold for the grade. Amazing first acent for it's day.
Shaw Brown - 2nd O/S - 2002 with David Menadue

Brown - Solo O/S - 2002

paul m hadley - Lead - 2002

Dave Rumney - Lead - 29/Jul/01 with Sean Roberts

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/May/01

Mark Riley - Lead - Aug/00 with Stuart Greenall

WB - Lead O/S - 10/May/00 with James, Paul

frost - Lead - May/00 with J Hubbard

Before this date
D Tempest - 2nd - 01/Jan/00 with Rick

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - Lead - 2000

Steve Crowe - Lead O/S - 2000 with KM

Rich Kirby - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/99 with Robin & Tim Bonner

unexpectedly fine
Grezza - 2nd O/S - Aug/99

Roget - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/99 with jim

Marti999 - Lead - 13/Jun/99 with lorna

zero six - 2nd O/S - 1998

Hidden - Lead O/S - 25/May/97

Dave Musgrove Jnr - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/97 with Jon Sykes, Muir Morton

phardman - 1997

richparry - Lead O/S - 1996

Ched - Lead O/S - 1995 with Glanfor

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1995

Glenn Sutcliffe - 1995 with keefe

mattnuttall - 2nd O/S - 24/Jun/93 with Alan Holden

Andy Say - Lead O/S - 12/Jun/92

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1992

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - Lead O/S - Jul/91 with Steven Murphy

whispering nic - Solo - 25/May/91 with Ali W

mark-abz - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/90 with Andy W

Hidden - Lead - Aug/90

keefe - 1990

Hidden - Lead O/S - 1990

bullybones - 1990

Hidden - Lead - 1990

michael burrows - Lead O/S - 10/Sep/89 with brian jones

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/89

Hidden - Lead - 17/Jun/89

I remember it being very bold with only 1 RP to protect behind a flake. This looked as though it had seen a lot of service.
charlesmfrench - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/89 with DAVID SMITH

phardman - Lead O/S - 11/Jun/88 with John Lloyd

William Robertson - Lead O/S - 1987 with Emily, Steve, Shaun etc

Nick Biven - 1986

nigehughes - Lead - Sep/84 with Malcolm Boater

Melok - 1983

I caught Bob when he slipped from the crux moves on P1 & pushed him back up the route. The 2nd pitch is really good.
Sean Kelly - 2nd - Jul/82 with Bob Millward

One of my first E2s. Led it after Mike backed off the lower wall.
Bob - Lead O/S - 31/May/81 with M. Lynch

Nic Robinson - Lead O/S - 01/Feb/81 with Nick Bond

Hidden - 2nd - 04/May/80

Ian Jones - 2nd β - 1980 with Billy Jones

Nic Robinson - Lead O/S - 1980

Hidden - 1980

Chris Craggs - Lead - 1980 with Dave Spencer

David Smith - 1980 with charlie french

Mark Kemball - Lead - 21/Oct/79 with John Jefferies

Mike Owen - 09/Aug/77 with Pete White

steve L - 21/Aug/76 with Phil Thomas, sharpie

mikej - 2nd - 04/Jul/76 with Bill Church

One of the braver leads from the summer that lead to a breakthrough in our climbing standard.
petemeads - Lead O/S - Jul/75 with Mick Brady

Hidden - 1973

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Style of ascent

Soloed3 of 154 (1.9%)
Lead95 of 154 (61.7%)
Followed30 of 154 (19.5%)
Unknown26 of 154 (16.9%)

'Climbed'56 of 154 (36.4%)
clean O/S87 of 154 (56.5%)
clean β5 of 154 (3.2%)
clean rpt5 of 154 (3.2%)
dogged1 of 154 (0.6%)