Grey Slab*** VS 4b
[Classic day out in Idwal: Grey Slab, 3 kb]81m, 2 pitches.

Rockfax Description
Delicate, sustained and excellent. The route is not well protected and is prone to seepage on the initial crack and upper crux - care required if at all damp, especially on the upper part of P2.
1) 4a, 35m. Start up the main corner for 20m then trend left across the bubbly slab to a rib. Balance up this to a small stance and high belay under the overlap.
2) 4b, 40m. Climb through the bulge then move left and head up the vague rib on good holds to the overlap high above. Jig left and right through this and finish up the final slab, carefully avoiding any wetness. © ROCKFAX

Ticklists: Classic Rock, The 100 Best UK VS routes?, North Wales Rock Graded List, Best slab climbs of the UK, Menlove Routes, North Wales 100 Classic Climbs, UK Lonely Leads.

Photo: Classic day out in Idwal: Grey Slab © LeeWood
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led P1
Matt Harmon - AltLd O/S - 04/Oct/15 with Anna Duckett

joermann - AltLd - 17/Sep/15

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Sep/15

davenev - AltLd O/S - 11/Sep/15 with Graham

Phijinator - AltLd O/S - 10/Sep/15 with James Cutler

led 2nd pitch, felt very good value for vs, with 2 getting on for 20m runouts with sustained climbing, really good climbing though, definitely the best of the classic rock link up, slab was wet in places but fairly easily avoidable
pete1993 - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/15 with Dawn

Dawn_K_B - AltLd O/S - 22/Jun/15 with Pete Briggs

Very, very wet and not much gear higher up the route! I'd like to do this climb again on a dry day.
Sean Kelly - Lead - 13/May/15 with Antonio Ramos

Andy led both pitches. Top pitch very bold, very little gear, easily a 10m run out. We did it in 3 pitches and that seemed to work well - 2nd belay just below the second bulge. Rotting mouse in obvious hand hold at 1st belay not nice!
JohnMetcalfe - 2nd - 21/Sep/14 with Andy Wilson

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Sep/14

i led p2. p1 was a lovely pitch. p2 was a bold one but its all there, the slab was covered with water. yes the gear is poor but the slab has excellent friction. vs is a bit low for this climb, HVS 4a-4b
Craigyboy13 - AltLd O/S - 12/Sep/14

First pitch was pleasant, though arranging the belay was a little awkward, especially with the rotting mouse in the jug by the stance. second pitch is ridiculously bold. featuring sustained climbing up a 20m runout, which was thankfully mostly dry! where to go after the gear in the overlap seemed a little vague (CC Ogwen has the line skirting left into the gully here, whereas NWR goes straight up), so pulled through slightly rightwards and then finished up the arete between the two main grassy corners - a 60m pitch! Felt like HVS 4c on the lower half of P2, and E1 5a up the final bit to me. All in all, a very unbalanced finish to the usual idwal link ups.
JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 10/Sep/14 with Claire Holland

Lovely climbing, but as mentioned previously, scant protection where it really matters after the stance. After the bulge drifted off left early due to rope drag. Second pitch felt more HVS 4c -exhilarating!!
rohai545 - AltLd - 26/Jul/14 with Ross Morton

Epic route with some fine views. 2nd pitch is exposed with not much gear but on the plus side the rock is super and non polished. Route was slightly damp in places on a perfectly dry day, I'd avoid route after heavy down pours. Over all beautiful route and an epic finish to a cracking day.
nation1 - AltLd - 26/Jul/14

Very intimidating second pitch. A long way before I placed a bit of gear that I had any confidence in, and only 2 good pieces in total. Didn't use the spike runner after the first overlap as it was loose, as was the downward-pointing flake just above it. Didn't really fancy the prospect of those falling directly onto my belayers head :-). Was a bit wet in places despite the long dry spell, which added to the spice a little. Brilliant climbing however and a good mental test for me.
gav - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/14 with Mark

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Jul/14

Some of the best slab climbing ever. Amazing second pitch !
bantamdave - 2nd O/S - 28/Jun/14 with Rob Hunt, Nigel

sgl - Lead - 21/Jun/14 with Susie

erbridger - AltLd - 18/Jun/14 with Kate Edhouse

Led Pitch 1, awesome.
Kate Edhouse - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/14 with Emily

Day with British Mountain Guide prospective students. Led by Tamsin Gay, supervised by Libby Peter. Followed on from Red slabs. Amazing day and conversation with two inspiring people. Climbed with Christine Biles as other second
Denry - 06/Jun/14 with Tamsin Gay

A bit damp and an interesting second pitch to finish off an awesome day.
Adam Hill - 2nd - 21/May/14

Hidden - AltLd - 17/May/14

Hidden - AltLd - 03/May/14

carl_123 - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/14

ali macphee - 2nd O/S - 27/Apr/14 with carl_123

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/14

oldmanofmow - 2014

Si - 2014

mike mo - 2014

mike mo - 2014

yesbutnobutyesbut - 2014

Allanfairfechan - 2014

Hidden - Lead - 20/Aug/13

ewan i - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/13 with mark duggan

Mark D - AltLd O/S - 08/Aug/13 with Ewan Irvine

bob johnson - 2nd O/S - 07/Aug/13 with Rich Ball

MoWalker3 - AltLd - 13/Jul/13 with Rick

Led the crux pitch, very, very bold unless you have small cams (00) and micro nuts. Excellent climbing.
Zoomer - AltLd O/S - 09/Jul/13 with Si Denny

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Jul/13

pitch 2 was pretty bold and wet, felt HVS
papashango - AltLd - 19/Jun/13 with Jon R

Hidden - 2013

Richard Kinsman - Lead O/S - 2013

Richard Kinsman - Lead O/S - 2013

tim20 - 2013

Hidden - AltLd - 01/Sep/12

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Aug/12

Wet and horrible pitch 1, wet and gearless and horrible pitch 2 which I backed off leading!
Mr. K - 2nd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Steven Mount

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/12

Darrell Read - Lead O/S - 06/May/12 with Ian Johnson

Ran out, dodgy belay for 3
j.buckley87 - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12

2nd pitch bold and run out great classic
southern_smit - AltLd - 05/May/12 with james buckley, jim mc call

climbing son - AltLd O/S - 05/May/12 with Rachel Turton

Hidden - Lead O/S - 05/May/12

Amazoniangirl - 2nd - 05/May/12

Couldn't follow the original line due to wetness, had to trend left via a break in the rock below the bubbly slab. Ended up desperately digging for protection, hammering in 2 micros followed by 4c-ish balancy climbing on barely adequate holds 4m higher. Involuntary variation was HVS for sure, a fall would have had serious consequences. Had to ab off the shallow spike on the belay as night approached.
GermanAlex - Lead dnf - 25/Feb/12 with Dan

Darron - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

TheAndyBarker - 2012

TheAndyBarker - 2012

davidtrelawnyross - 2012

Ian JL - 2012

alan moore - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Stone Idle - 2012

Hidden - Lead - 2012

Steven Carter - Lead O/S - 2012

Hidden - Lead - 22/Oct/11

Got a tiny bit run out on the 2nd pitch... 2 bits of gear 50metres. Silly, but didn't see the placements.
Alex Thompson - AltLd O/S - 17/Aug/11 with Jon Thompson

Hidden - Lead - 05/Aug/11

Bold second pitch, but steady climbing.
Danjones - AltLd O/S - 10/Jul/11 with Steve Keys

kitkat78 - AltLd O/S - 02/Jul/11 with SteveM

SteveM - AltLd - 02/Jul/11 with Kat

had to escape right because it started to rain
RossT - AltLd dnf - 27/Jun/11

Climbed the second pitch from the top of grey rib.
Lev - 2nd O/S - 03/Jun/11 with Emma Ross

marcoleptic - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/11 with Pete

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Jun/11

chris smith - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/11

fizzychewitt - AltLd - 24/Apr/11 with Martin

joscott - 2nd - 24/Apr/11 with Chris Smith

JN showed me a nifty appproach to the crag - under Sub Cneifion Rib and then scramble up Seniors Ridge. From the shoulder before the final section of Seniors Ridge, you can scramble diagonally down, aiming for a prominent sloping white queartz slab. From there you can work your way round to the foot of the routes. JN soloed p1, I took a more measured approach by opting to lead p2 with a rope. I found it tough perhaps because I was under the misapprehension that I was on Grey Arete!
Pete Nugent - AltLd rpt - 22/Apr/11 with John Nuttall

Superb climbing, not a lot of gear but great fun running it out. The last pitch of an awesome day of 350m of good climbing.
Dan Lane - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/11 with Will Oates

Ashley Hold - AltLd rpt - 17/Apr/11 with Torquil Bennett

Led P2
bullethead - AltLd O/S - 16/Apr/11 with Richard Yorke

led both pitches then scrambled to glyder fawr. awesome day 10 pitches 1000feet of HS-VS climbing
will moy - Lead - 22/Mar/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Mar/11

Second pitch during a grey rib/grey slab link up. Wouldn't of managed it without ally's superior climbing skills
AMarchant - AltLd O/S - 19/Mar/11 with Ally Hurst

Mancunianimport - AltLd - 17/Mar/11

hilty - AltLd O/S - 2011

JEP - 2011

31770 - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

bsmedz - 2011

pasbury - 2011

Tobias at Home - 2011

Tobias at Home - 2011

petebale2000 - AltLd O/S - 2011

Hidden - 2011

mattfarr - AltLd O/S - 2011 with Liam

cymjt - 2011

grp - AltLd O/S - 09/Oct/10 with mungo nash

Cornish Cream - Oct/10

Owain Llewelyn - 2nd - 29/Jun/10 with Steve

Hidden - Lead - 26/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Jun/10

Hidden - AltLd - 20/Jun/10

me pitch 1 guido pitch 2
pebbles - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/10

I did 'disappointing' 1st pitch & Allan, thankfully, did the 'delicate' 2nd pitch, phew!
Neil Metcalfe101 - AltLd - 12/Jun/10 with Allan Mac

Lead P2 as continuation from Grey Rib. Run out was epic on the main slab.
RCrockford - AltLd O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Jonah

Conan - Lead rpt - 05/Jun/10 with Dom Hall

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 31/May/10

Top pitch
willson - AltLd - 23/May/10 with ben

WMC Classic Rock weekend: Hope, Lazarus, The Arete, Grey Slab. Well-protected first pitch just makes the blank sections for the second seem even bolder!
Monkey_Alan - Lead O/S - 15/May/10 with James Bisset

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/May/10

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 11/Apr/10

linked with heather wall, original route and arete, p2 is 4c with very poor gear, bold!!
J1PEF - AltLd - 10/Apr/10

Easy climbing but run out massively for the grade. Had E2's with more gear...
beds74 - 10/Apr/10 with Jon Peffer

AngelaC - Lead - 10/Apr/10 with Dieter Cole

Classic. What a second pitch: there's bold and then there's BOLD! Even the classic spike runner wobbles (I had little faith in it). But what a pitch!!! Very technical - only 4b? I think I did several 4c moves. It's one for brave slabheads rather than a chimney sweep like me. Almost as hard as Great Gully! - and that is saying something!
jimorothy - AltLd - 24/Sep/09 with Rachel Crolla

having completed tennis shoe, lazarus and groove above, confidence was high or maybe to high! pitch 1 seemed fairly straight forward, needed lots of thought. pitch 2 on the other hand! hmm! wasnt a happy bunny at all. VS 4b maybe just a little to far for someone with my experience. i really didnt enjoy pitch 2 ! however i did make it up ! still a great days climbing! brilliant in fact...... need more now.. the days of Diff's and VDiff's are a thing of the past now. funny how there's no photos of climbers on this crag, its a bloody nightmare! and I loved it
snakes77 - 2nd O/S - 18/Sep/09 with Monkey1

What can I say about this, truly fantastic end to the best days climbing I can remember. Tennis shoe, lazarus, Groove above, Grey Slab. First VS multi pitch lead, absolutely buzzing! Some serious moments but felt under control throughout. Delicate friction climbing in parts, spaced and poor gear, not the best belays, but immensley satisfying. Split the 2nd pitch into 2 using an in-situ thread belay in the grassy groove 15m up from the end of pitch 1. This helped!
monkey1 - Lead O/S - Sep/09 with Snakes77

Graham Westbrook - Lead - Sep/09

mjackson - Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Aug/09

Friend 3 in overlap. Bold top pitch. Hope VD ***, Lazarus S4a, The Arete VD, Grey Slab VS4b done as linking climbs - Car to Car 8hrs
Ste Ridd - Lead - 08/Aug/09 with B.Johnson

matt.woodfield - AltLd - 24/Jul/09

Very bold top pitch with a very poor belay below you!
wilkie14c - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/09 with Dave Clarke

Mark Wilson23 - 2nd O/S - 03/Jun/09 with Dave Clarke, Paul blanchard

jamie ward - AltLd O/S - 29/May/09 with Stuart Williams

Hidden - 2nd - 24/May/09

mr mills - Lead - 13/Apr/09 with Chris

quarrtman1 - 2nd - 13/Apr/09 with mills

P2. Bloody scary in wet.
Hjort - AltLd O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Serinde Van Wijk, Matt

Sardien - AltLd O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Toby Vye, Matthew Jaques

keith leonard - 2009

After a day out on Idwal Slabs, walked across to finish on Grey Slab. Walked down with head torches. A full day out.
MikeDowsett - 2nd - 2009 with John Harrison, Paul Tretheway

beautiful rock and climbing if more than a little run out on the second pitch
sgl0jd - AltLd - 07/Jun/08 with Steve Hobbs

mjeffery - AltLd O/S - 16/May/08

TP - Lead - 2008 with Brian S

poofish - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/07 with Jon Woodhead

kleinej - AltLd - 05/May/07 with Patrick

paddygoodwin - AltLd - 05/May/07 with Jason

robertporter - AltLd O/S - 28/Apr/07

Keith Jones - 2nd - 14/Apr/07 with David

John Marsland - AltLd O/S - 12/Apr/07 with Ant and Dunc

mikelaing - Lead - Apr/07

Hidden - Apr/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 03/Feb/07

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Feb/07

tumbling wizard - Lead - 2007

Dom Whillans - 2007

brilliant, maybe better to bealy lower down than suggested. friend 3 in belay as well as wires and blunt spike. Top pitch is great but run-out
lithos - AltLd O/S - 28/Jul/06

Hidden - AltLd - Jul/06

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/06

featuresforfeet - AltLd rpt - 29/Apr/06 with Simon & Dave

Hidden - AltLd - 29/Apr/06

BALD EAGLE - AltLd - 29/Apr/06 with Mark Van Rossum

dan gibson - 2006

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2006

keith leonard - 2006

Andrew Barker - AltLd O/S - 2006 with Phil Applegate

Hidden - Lead - Jun/05

Hidden - AltLd O/S - May/05

chris wyatt - Lead O/S - 2005 with JAck Graham

donkster - AltLd O/S - 2005 with mudders

Steve Lenartowicz - 2005 with Clare

Hidden - AltLd - 14/Aug/04

Norman_P_W - AltLd - 14/Aug/04 with Bob M

Swirly - Lead dnf - Aug/04 with Pete Morgan

exposed and all the better for it
A Crook - AltLd O/S - 20/Jun/04 with Dom Stockton

ChrisBrooke - AltLd - 24/Apr/04 with John Inkpen

Batty - AltLd dnf - 16/Aug/03

shaun walby - AltLd O/S - Jun/03 with Phil West

John HW - AltLd - Jun/03 with Cath

aged_ape - AltLd O/S - Jul/02 with Matt O

Led crux pitch which was wet. Entertaining wearing a rucksack.
Phil West - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/02 with Shaun Walby

shaun walby - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/02 with Phil West

jmr - AltLd - Jun/00 with Paul Greenhow

Hidden - 2000

bullybones - 2000

Tim Sparrow - Lead - 2000 with Toby E

babymoac - Lead - 19/Aug/99 with Graeme

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 19/Jun/99

Hidden - 1999

Ian Archer - AltLd - 09/Aug/97 with Danny Hale

Ched - Lead O/S - 1997 with Glanfor

Great route that it is, I think this is still undergraded at VS. Pitch two is sustained 4c with very little gear. That's HVS in my book.
Rog Wilko - Lead - Jun/96 with Debbie Wilkinson

Nigel R Lewis - 2nd - 21/Jul/95 with Gary Lewis

Budge - AltLd O/S - Jul/95 with Richard Teed

Well worth doing. Nicely run out.
Babika - Lead - Jul/95 with Christina Something

auld al - AltLd O/S - May/94

Hidden - AltLd - 24/May/92

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/90

BigHairyIan - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/90 with Martin (from South America)

Andy Say - Solo O/S - 08/Apr/90

phardman - 1990

AlanLittle - AltLd - Sep/89 with Tom Dillon

nigehughes - Lead - Jun/88 with Mark Troy

tapley - Lead - 21/May/88 with Tony Raphael

Led pitch 2, only 2 runners in 150ft.
Iain Thow - AltLd - 14/May/88 with Steve Ball

rogerskews - AltLd - 09/May/87 with Martin Coward

Hidden - Solo O/S - 11/Oct/86

Nick Biven - 1986

Mark Kemball - Lead - 04/Jul/85 with Chris May

Hidden - Lead - 22/Jul/83

charlesmfrench - AltLd O/S - 29/Oct/82 with Alan Bennett

Nigel Bond - Lead - 09/May/82 with Rodger Edenborough

nigehughes - AltLd - Apr/82 with Ian Maguire

Nigel Coe - AltLd - 27/Mar/82 with Frank Farrell

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 10/Apr/81

MikeDowsett - Lead - 1981 with Jon Sharpe

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Jul/80

Chris Craggs - 1980

Brian Wilderspin - AltLd - 21/Sep/78

pneame - Solo O/S - Sep/76

mikej - Lead - 21/Aug/76 with Brian Norris

Chris Craggs - 1975

Hidden - AltLd - 22/Aug/73

zukator - 1970

jcw - 24/Oct/65 with Ron James

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