Cadillac*** VS 4c
[Cadillac beneath the roof lead by the strong and brave Sir Ross of Lakey!, 3 kb]Right Hand Crag, 15ft left of Questor. Ascend a shallow groove to a flake at ~ 15ft. Make tricky moves past this to a small alcove under an overhang, traverse left for 10ft, then move up and right above the overhang, follow the easiest line to the top. As of 2010 a huge roof has fallen off from just above this pitch. Climbing looks unaffected but beware.
F Cannings, P Littlejohn (Alternate Leads) 14/Feb/1970

Ticklists: Orange Spot Lower Wye, A Worthwhile Weekend at Wyndcliffe.

Photo: Cadillac beneath the roof lead by the strong and brave Sir Ross of Lakey! © Puckle

PUBLIC LOGBOOKS
This climb is in 277 logbooks, and on 11 wishlists.

mikedevcole - Lead O/S - 12/Sep/14

Chris Sansum - Lead rpt - 06/Sep/14 with Caroline Ní Chaoimh

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/Aug/14

mr random - 2nd - 23/Aug/14 with Rafael Malczyk

Tough VS. Got wobbly legs. First lead of the day. Rich 2nd.
Katsmiff - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/14 with Richard Apthorp

clairemathews - 2nd - 23/Aug/14

Martin Bagshaw - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/14 with Claire Mathews

Dave Mahon - 2nd - 13/Aug/14 with Brian Mead

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 05/Aug/14

evhall - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/14 with goat

Gareth T - 2nd rpt - 20/Jul/14 with Julian

Hidden - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/14

Justin T - 2nd - 15/Jul/14 with Nancy

Necky in places, not an easy VS.
Pike - 2nd O/S - 12/Jul/14 with Mark Condon

Julie Carroll - 2nd - 11/Jul/14 with Dave Thompson

Dave Thompson - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/14 with Julie Carroll

MontyH - 2nd - 09/Jul/14 with Brian

brian watson - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/14

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Jun/14

JLD - Lead O/S - 15/Jun/14 with Michael Stephenson

Hidden - Lead - 11/Jun/14

A nice line with some interesting moves. Just enough holds withing my reach to get me up to the top.
BStar - 2nd O/S - 11/Jun/14 with Andy McCoy

rhys.nadin - 2nd O/S - Jun/14 with Richard Nadin

twem - Lead O/S - 21/May/14 with Alastair

alastairbegley - 2nd rpt - 21/May/14 with Andrew Twemlow

Snorfalorpagus - 2nd - 18/May/14 with Steve Robinson

stevorobs3 - Lead O/S - 18/May/14 with Josh A

Ian JL - Lead O/S - 17/May/14

First did this in 1996. Found it harder 18 years later! Enjoyable and quality, but the lower part packs a punch & I see from here now that a decent hold under the overhang has gone. Hard at the top too! Knee squirming! Top end VS 4c
Phil Murray - Lead rpt - 17/May/14 with Liz

BeckyS - 2nd - 11/May/14 with Zaheer

cem - Lead rpt - 11/May/14 with Tim Howard

Hidden - May/14

struggled on this after not climbing for a 4 weeks. Tough for VS.
CurlyStevo - Lead - 13/Apr/14 with Mick Ward

Melonfly - 2nd O/S - Apr/14 with Caleb

chris_woodsy - Lead O/S - Apr/14

Gareth T - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/14 with Tim Popplestone

Think i finished up pilgrimage - good exciting climbing! :)
Dizz - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/14 with Simon P

si_pro_83 - 2nd O/S - 15/Mar/14 with Liz

craigaj.ace - 2nd - 14/Mar/14 with James and Vaclav

First time I followed the crack out right (more natural line?) from the roof. This time I tried the left hand exit. Both seem nice options.
Kemics - 2nd rpt - 13/Mar/14 with Trish, Mel

Forgot how good this climb is!
alastairbegley - Lead rpt - 09/Mar/14 with Nick Russell

Went left at the overhang this time, rather than taking it direct.
Nick Russell - 2nd rpt - 09/Mar/14 with Alastair Begley, Emily

steve_gibbs - 2nd O/S - 09/Mar/14 with George Cave

Cracking route, some great sideways moves
67hours - Lead O/S - 09/Mar/14 with Steve "d00D" Gibbs

JClimb - 2nd O/S - Feb/14 with Andy Varley

Done after Zulu, not much in the tank. Sue cruised it. Intro doesn't do this crag justice. Right hand crag has a succession of class routes - most are pushing 3 stars.
Ian Stirrups - 2nd - 2014 with Sue

Great climbing. I found the start the crux as it was cold.
PaulTanton - Lead O/S - 29/Dec/13 with Alison McBride, Ken McBride

pftom - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/13 with Rosie Hawker

chrisallan - Lead β - 06/Oct/13

Mayaculpa - 2nd - 05/Oct/13 with Peter

The first ten meters are tricky and interesting, but the difficulties ease considerably afterwards.
pheotleyr - Lead O/S - 05/Oct/13 with Mike

Dunx - Lead O/S - 22/Sep/13 with Rob Harding, Adam

robh14 - 2nd - 20/Sep/13

angie - 2nd - 24/Aug/13 with Peter Lovell

Brilliant climbing all the way. Strenuous for the grade.
Dave Mahon - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/13 with Matt Jackson

Tough VS. Great climb
matt.jj - 2nd O/S - 03/Aug/13 with Dave Mahon

Peter Lovell - Lead O/S - Aug/13

MichaelConstantinou - Lead dog - 28/Jul/13 with Ian Thompson

Dogged after trying (and failing) to liberate a reluctant nut for five minutes. Failed to realise that the silver hexes were not my partner's gear.
Penfold Merton - 2nd dog - 28/Jul/13 with torsok

torsok - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/13 with OliverK

Excellent climb albeit some caution required as the overhangs have suffered frequent rockfall.
mattgrange - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/13

Hidden - Lead - 18/Jul/13

Really really good! Got quite pumped moving up to the overhang but I probably did it all wrong.
Cheese Monkey - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/13 with Ian M

Cracking route.
Ian Miller - 2nd O/S - 12/Jul/13 with Ben Darby

pffft - 2nd O/S - 01/Jun/13 with Monkey

Brilliant route. Varied, with sustained interest throughout. The tree at the top is totally hollow and won't be there for many months more. It'd take a braver man than me to an off that - there are at least 2 other an points within 10m which are much better.
Monk - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13 with Andy A, Kylie, Luke

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/May/13

Great route, made a little harder due to a nice flake laying at the bottom of the route and not where it was when the route was set
lakeyross - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/13

Good route, the step left from beneath the roof made a little harder by the fact the main exit hand hold is on the floor at the bottom, nice little traverse above and just when you think you're done...there's a little more good climbing to the top. The abseiling tat could do with replacing soon.
Puckle - 2nd O/S - 29/Apr/13

petellis - 2nd O/S - 29/Apr/13 with Sloth

Hidden - Lead O/S - 28/Apr/13

lakeyross - Lead O/S - 01/Apr/13

Kyuzo - 17/Mar/13

Neil Morbey - Lead O/S - 09/Jan/13 with Jason Gotel

Hidden - 2013

rhysjones932 - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Stone Muppet - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12 with af

bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 04/Oct/12 with Clare

Hidden - Lead - 30/Aug/12

Jim Malo - 2nd rpt - 29/Aug/12 with Deborah

Nice route. Quite tough in places but well-protected. I placed 20 pieces of gear I think, mostly in the first 20 metres. My second left one of my hexes alongside the other two stuck ones.
crossdressingrodney - Lead O/S - 23/Aug/12 with Mike, david m

Technically a better route than Questor.
Andrew Sloan - 2nd O/S - 18/Aug/12 with Tim

matjam - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/12

Followed saz up, lost a nut as god knows hiw he got it in there. Pumoy first few moves nut then up you go!
Andrewbirkett - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/12 with Saz

Hidden - 2nd RP - 21/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jul/12

Led after Matt had a close call on it, falling upside down until his head nearly hit the ground. Good on him for getting back on and leading past the crux, but I don't think he was in the right frame of mind to complete the route.
Chris Sansum - Lead rpt - 14/Jul/12 with Matt, RMC, Peter Ocampo

poeter210 - 2nd dog - 14/Jul/12

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Jul/12

Marti999 - Lead O/S - 10/Jul/12 with Debbie

Jim Malo - 2nd O/S - 10/Jun/12 with Barry

fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/12 with jim

Brilliant climb, absolutely brilliant, a mixture of techy and of strong climbing. Absolutely amazing climb. A great day out with John.
puppythedog - Lead O/S - 25/May/12 with JOhn Wilson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/May/12

alastairbegley - Lead O/S - 21/May/12

Hidden - 2nd - 12/May/12

ASchwirtz - Lead O/S - 06/May/12 with Claire Duffield

thomb - 15/Apr/12

mike.moss - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/12

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Apr/12

Vincej - Lead - 08/Apr/12 with Nevil

iforwms - 2nd O/S - 28/Mar/12 with Tim

TimPerkin - Lead O/S - 28/Mar/12 with Ifor Williams

A bit of a struggle.
Phil Layton - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/12 with Justin B

Chris Sieradzki - 2nd O/S - 22/Jan/12 with Hooo

Really nice route. Constantly interesting and varied climbing with loads of solid gear. Better than Questor.
Hooo - Lead O/S - 22/Jan/12 with Chris Sieradzki

bluesharper - 2nd - 14/Jan/12 with Caleb

I thought this seemed quite straight-forward for VS. Well protected, easy to read and a definite classic!
Kemics - Lead O/S - 14/Jan/12

Hidden - 2012

Felt hard for 4c, but this was the first climb of the day. Moving right under the overhang seemed like the more natural line, so I took this. Maybe this was harder
Nick Russell - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/11

CraigMcAteer - 2nd - 13/Nov/11 with nick

Rowan Mitchell - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Andre Steele

Burly first half, more technical second half
jamespilgrim - 2nd O/S - 24/Sep/11 with RobinL

Bobcat5060 - Lead - 04/Sep/11 with Barney Ashton

Lovely climb, the rock fall doesnt appear to affect this route at all. Lovely traverse moves, hard for the grade.
vertigo714 - Lead O/S - 29/Aug/11 with Simon Slater

simonsclimbing - 2nd O/S - 29/Aug/11

martin one - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/11 with Neil Nand

I thirded this but there was still gear to take out on my rope. I had toe rope that was used to protect the left hand section so most of the climb would have involved a swing had I slipped.
ElBarto - 2nd β - 20/Aug/11 with Caroline Priston, Martin Lennon

mikeydee135 - 2nd O/S - 19/Jul/11 with Colin Knowles

riddle - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with Yasmina

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Jul/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/11

A pleasant excursion, following the obvious line to under the roof left by the fallen block then trending rightwards to the top. Typically good protection and fantastic views.
fragglerock - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/11 with Jon Lumb

evilweed - 2nd O/S - 12/Jun/11 with Dan

A huge block (3 metres in height) was gone, destroying the yew tree below. The scar left was scary and the move there was worth 5a (or harder?). Belayed by Luke.
masa-alpin - Lead O/S - 29/May/11 with Luke A, Yvonne

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 29/May/11

wildrover220 - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Ali Dixon

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 07/Mar/11

Alasdair88 - Lead O/S - 07/Mar/11 with Pete Swan

AlexD - 2nd - 06/Mar/11 with Ceri

This felt very hard for a VS, but I was cold and head not in the right place (excuses! excuses! it's a very long time since i had a take on a VS!)
Ceridwen - Lead dog - 06/Mar/11 with Alex Dennis

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/11

bonelessivar - Lead O/S - Feb/11

Tim Sparrow - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Garron - Lead O/S - 12/Dec/10

Paul Robertson - 2nd O/S - 12/Dec/10 with Garron

katiep - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/10 with Robin Head

Robin Head - 2nd O/S - 13/Nov/10 with Katie

Hard crux moves probably towards the upper end of the grade, but stupidly well protected with a clean comfy fall space. No reason not to get on it-the climbing is really fantastic! Polish in this case is comforting, showing you foot sequences, and doesn't add to the difficulty at all.
jacobjlloyd - Lead O/S - 13/Nov/10

stuart34 - 2nd - 20/Oct/10 with Ben Smith, Jerry Crabb

bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 30/Sep/10 with Helen S

couple of scary moves on this one
hms - 2nd β - 30/Sep/10 with Brian

brew_guru - 2nd O/S - 06/Aug/10 with super gav

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Aug/10

Hidden - Lead dog - 01/Aug/10

Gregthebadger - 2nd - Aug/10

some nice climbing with a couple of delicate traverses
lithos - Lead O/S - 17/Jul/10

pretty tough this, nice and varied with both strenuous and delecate moves, the early flake is the crux, it took 3 goes and wore me out. Thanks Dave for getting me up!
PaulWatson - 2nd β - 11/Jun/10 with Dave P

stuart34 - Lead O/S - 02/Jun/10 with Stuart Buchan

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Jun/10

bormuf - 2nd dog - 30/May/10

s.c.white - Lead dog - 26/May/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/May/10

aged_ape - Lead - 18/May/10 with IH

Trisha Murphy - 2nd O/S - 17/May/10

grumpyoldjanner - Lead O/S - 08/May/10 with Matt 'Bungle' Larkins

Jessie Rushbrooke - Lead β - 04/May/10 with GF

climber sim - May/10

Hidden - 2nd - 28/Apr/10

mike lawrence? - 2nd - 28/Apr/10 with James the Navigator, Colin

theotherpetehill - 2nd - 25/Apr/10

chrisallan - Lead O/S - 25/Apr/10

will_benfold - 2nd O/S - 25/Apr/10 with Chris Allan

this place seems hard!
dean79 - Lead O/S - 18/Apr/10 with Marc Lloyd

marclloyd77 - 2nd - 18/Apr/10 with Dean Bucknall

Night climb
tobyb - 2nd O/S - 10/Mar/10

sgl0jd - Lead - 01/Mar/10

Didnt traverse left under the overhang, instead i went right (poor route navigation) and joined on with the bulge of pilgramage, not my best moment but got over it and continued with cadillac. was the hardest VS ive ever done until i realise i strayed on to E2 country
stvredmond - Lead O/S - 01/Mar/10 with James

simeclimb68 - Lead rpt - 14/Feb/10 with Tom Jewel

jchenoweth - Lead O/S - 31/Jan/10 with Peter and Paul

Hidden - 2010

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Oct/09

andy dunn - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/09 with Alan

aged_ape - Lead O/S - 17/Sep/09 with JC

Hidden - 09/Aug/09

willjones - Lead O/S - Jul/09

Different Steve - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/09 with Clio

Slipped after being broken by The Firebird :(
Francois S - 2nd dog - 20/Jun/09 with Simon Chandler

Clee - 2nd - 20/Jun/09 with Steve

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Jun/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/Jun/09

Hidden - 2nd dog - 16/Jun/09

mikeshewring - 2nd O/S - 13/Jun/09

james.lane - 2nd - 31/May/09 with guidedmountain

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/May/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 24/May/09

Fell off at first flake - I think need to reach higher for hold?
mick1jones - 2nd dog - 09/May/09 with Alex Wellings

Rob84 - Lead O/S - 02/May/09 with Ed Hill

dswansonlow - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/09 with Patrick Timoney

1 rest - at the undercut flake hold near the beginning. Had climbed this on a previous occasion.
Chris Sansum - Lead dog - 13/Apr/09 with Gary Lewin

patrick.timoney - 2nd O/S - 13/Apr/09 with Dougie

Took a rest on a wire under the orange roof, should have moved right earlier. Class climb.
Christian Reynish - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/09 with stu, Toby

Neil Stansbie - Lead - Apr/09

gratuite francaise
mickyconnor - Lead dog - 28/Feb/09 with steve

more technical than Questor, but not as sustained. Excellent route.
brady - 2nd O/S - 28/Feb/09 with Micky

bpmclimb - 2nd rpt - 27/Jan/09 with Roger

garywong - Lead O/S - 06/Jan/09 with Patrick Goodwin

saz_b - 2009

Goofyfoot - 2009

mikeshewring - Lead O/S - 24/Sep/08

The traverse under the overhang was a nightmare.
Fatclimber - 2nd dog - 25/Aug/08 with Jason Garnham

Sam W - 2nd - 27/Jul/08 with Tom Bide

Tough
ian caton - 2nd - 13/Jul/08 with Abi

Abi Chard - Lead O/S - 13/Jul/08 with Ian

leigh - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/08 with Ed

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Jun/08

Tim M - 2nd - 25/Jun/08 with Emma

climbergg - Lead - 25/Jun/08 with cheesesarnie

Really nice route, definately VS, if hard.
thomasadixon - Lead O/S - 22/Jun/08 with Bismarck

dave657 - Lead O/S - 08/Jun/08 with Tim

Tim W - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/08 with Dave Ripley

CarolineH - 2nd O/S - 31/May/08 with Dave and Joe

Rested on gear
gareth r - Lead - 30/May/08 with Paul, Phil

Bristoldave - Lead O/S - 29/May/08 with colin

Nigel R Lewis - Lead - 11/May/08 with Tyrone saunders

btc - Lead O/S - 08/May/08 with elliot hunston

tobydunford - Lead O/S - 15/Apr/08 with Lisa Paling

lisapaling - 2nd β - 15/Apr/08 with Toby Dunford

Mark Walter - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/08 with Paul Black

markfromstoke - Lead - 2008 with Steve N

Bit wet, ish.
Circus - Lead O/S - 01/Dec/07 with Loz

wet and cold
Dr Caterpillar - 2nd dog - 01/Dec/07 with Adam

Really nice route.
Chris Sansum - Lead O/S - Dec/07 with Weilin Wang

bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 26/Aug/07 with Clare

Christian Reynish - Lead dnf - Aug/07

Hidden - Lead RP - 10/Jun/07

Not a very pleasant route. It would have helped if I'd followed the route and traversed right above the roof instead of trying to carry straight on up!
sadlerbrett - 2nd dog - 24/May/07 with Chris Horobin

cem - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/07 with Pete Atkinson

Jim Slater - Lead O/S - Mar/07 with Russ

Stone Muppet - 2007

tom.e - Lead rpt - 03/Sep/06 with Charlie Everett

Andrew1 - Lead - 25/Jul/06 with Rachel Smith

Nearly came off twice
localboy - 2nd O/S - 20/Jul/06 with Simon C

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Jul/06

tincann - Lead O/S - 09/Jun/06

Boxy - Lead O/S - 07/May/06

Fat Tim - Lead O/S - 08/Apr/06 with Sarah Baker

Hidden - Lead - 11/Dec/05

givemetea - Lead O/S - Jun/05 with Ann Chong

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/04

The Pylon King - Lead O/S - Nov/03 with David Elder

bpmclimb - Lead rpt - 15/Sep/03 with Clare

drysori - Jun/03

Jason Gotel - Lead O/S - Apr/03 with Pippa Lansdown

tom.e - 2nd O/S - 2003 with Charlie Everett

bpmclimb - Lead O/S - 09/Oct/02 with Clare

Will Homoky - Lead O/S - 17/Aug/02 with Ned Atkins

pezzerrr - Lead O/S - 25/Aug/01

Hidden - Lead O/S - Feb/01

Great route with a great view but not sure about VS felt pretty bloody hard!
Rob Oram - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/00 with Tom Asbridge

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/00

alan moore - 2000

Nigel Coe - 2nd - 27/Feb/99 with Mike Harris

liabilityliz - 2nd - 14/Jul/97 with Mark Trepte

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/97 with Trudi Veenstra

mikej - Lead - 07/Jul/95 with Simon Chapman

jim_randell - Lead rpt - 25/Mar/95 with FW

Hidden - Lead - 1995

jim_randell - 2nd rpt - 18/Jul/94 with WW

Jon Didymus - 2nd O/S - 30/Apr/94 with Marcus

Hidden - Lead - 10/Aug/93

Backinthegame - 2nd - Jul/93 with Lynn Wilkins, John Wright

sdht - 1991

strapless - Lead - Sep/90 with Ju

ChrisJD - Lead - 01/Jan/89

RichardMc - Lead O/S - 21/Aug/88 with Geoff Dunne

Tony Buckley - Lead - Feb/88 with Robert Clark

davemhart - Lead O/S - 1988

tapley - Lead - 04/Jul/87 with Alison Tapley

JamieAyres - 2nd O/S - Apr/85 with Mark Hopkins

Andy Chubb - Lead - 29/Aug/76 with Andrew Collins

Gordon Stainforth - 2nd - 13/Jun/71 with Tim James, John Williams

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