Right Hand Crag, 15ft left of Questor. Ascend a shallow groove to a flake at ~ 15ft. Make tricky moves past this to a small alcove under an overhang, traverse left for 10ft, then move up and right above the overhang, follow the easiest line to the top.

As of 2010 a huge roof has fallen off from just above this pitch. Climbing looks unaffected but beware.

F Cannings, P Littlejohn (Alternate Leads) 14/Feb/1970

Ticklists: Orange Spot Lower Wye, A Worthwhile Weekend at Wyndcliffe.

Hidden 01/Nov Lead O/S
Samuel P 01/Nov 2nd O/S
with Czech Vojta, Tommy
Hidden 29/Oct 2nd O/S
ecromwell 29/Oct Lead O/S

Found it pretty tough! Started a bit late and abseiled in the dark - rookie forgetting our headtorches.

rich H0001 12/Oct Lead
Giles Eperon 26/Sep Lead O/S
Charlie Eperon 26/Sep 2nd
AngelaC 20/Sep Lead
Ravenonthewire 22/Aug Lead O/S
with Stuart
treforsouthwell 11/Aug 2nd O/S

Seconded this route after leading Questor, this is certainly a hard VS with the crux closer to 5a. The first section is quite pumpy. The crux is low down, before the first overhang where you have to move left from the vertical crack to the diagonal flake. Climb to the overhang and then traverse left before going up to the second overhang. Traverse right and then up to the tree belay. It's pretty quick to walk off from the top (belay advised).

bpmclimb 25/Jul Lead rpt
with Clare
cwildblood 23/Jul 2nd O/S
Hidden 18/Jul Lead
maddy92 15/Jul Lead O/S
Connie-Em 15/Jul 2nd dog
Kirill 05/Jul Lead O/S
danbirkby 03/Jul Lead O/S
with Adrian, Gordon
alastairbegley 30/Jun 2nd rpt
Stickle Tarn 21/Jun Lead O/S
Legs 04/Jun Lead O/S
Hidden 03/Jun 2nd rpt
KittyKat 30/May 2nd O/S
with Alex Smith
jsmcfarland 26/May Lead O/S

Good route, personally I think Questor is better and harder.

with Steve
Pero 22/May Lead
Graeme Hammond 16/May Lead O/S

seemed nails for VS

with Becky E
mdolan 15/May Lead O/S

Great climb. Hard VS

alastairbegley 12/May Lead rpt

Started 10mins after sunset, unsurprisingly we abseiled in the dark

Hidden 12/May 2nd
JGriffiths 09/May Lead O/S
with Tom Hall
clams ?/May Lead
CatMc ?/May 2nd
with clams
mes32 26/Apr Lead O/S
with Chris
steve_gibbs 25/Apr Lead O/S
with Alex Tibbs
abtibbs 25/Apr 2nd O/S
Ian MK 18/Apr Lead O/S
with Richard
sheelba 12/Apr Lead

Great varied route, lots of interesting climbing

Radical-G 07/Apr Lead O/S
Hidden 04/Apr Lead O/S
Gustav 08/Feb Lead O/S

Pumpier than it looked!

with Laura, Adam bro
Hawkgirl ?/Feb 2nd

Get out if this is a VS!! Seconded just about, lead by a very strong Paul Donnithorne, who would give the grade at least E1...and so would I. Block above were you would have swung out right from has fallen, so thin moves can be taken from the spike above the triangular overhang, to jugs on the right block.

bpmclimb 18/Jan Lead rpt
gregclarke 18/Jan 2nd dog

Sadly rested on a piece of gear unnecessarily, lack of gumption!

with Brian
bpmclimb 19/Dec/14 Lead rpt
with Clare
Hidden 15/Nov/14 Lead O/S
Chris Sansum 15/Nov/14 2nd rpt
with Steve Collard
kp64zl ?/Nov/14 Lead O/S
mikedevcole 12/Sep/14 Lead O/S
Chris Sansum 06/Sep/14 Lead rpt
with Caroline Ní Chaoimh
Hidden 23/Aug/14 2nd O/S
mr random 23/Aug/14 2nd
with Rafael Malczyk
Katsmiff 23/Aug/14 Lead O/S

Tough VS. Got wobbly legs. First lead of the day. Rich 2nd.

clairemathews 23/Aug/14 2nd
Martin Bagshaw 23/Aug/14 Lead O/S
Rafal Malczyk 23/Aug/14 Lead O/S
with mr random
Dave Mahon 13/Aug/14 2nd
with Brian Mead
Hidden 05/Aug/14 2nd rpt
Hidden 22/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Gareth T 20/Jul/14 2nd rpt
with Julian
Hidden 15/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Justin T 15/Jul/14 2nd
with Nancy
Pike 12/Jul/14 2nd O/S

Necky in places, not an easy VS.

with Mark Condon
Julie Carroll 11/Jul/14 2nd
with Dave Thompson
Dave Thompson 11/Jul/14 Lead O/S
MontyH 09/Jul/14 2nd
with Brian
brian watson 09/Jul/14 Lead O/S
Egons Issy 24/Jun/14 2nd
with Kevin Vans-Colina
JLD 15/Jun/14 Lead O/S
Hidden 11/Jun/14 Lead
BStar 11/Jun/14 2nd O/S

A nice line with some interesting moves. Just enough holds withing my reach to get me up to the top.

Hidden ?/Jun/14 2nd O/S
twem 21/May/14 Lead O/S
alastairbegley 21/May/14 2nd rpt
Snorfalorpagus 18/May/14 2nd
with Steve Robinson
stevorobs3 18/May/14 Lead O/S
with Josh A
Ian JL 17/May/14 Lead O/S
Phil Murray 17/May/14 Lead rpt

First did this in 1996. Found it harder 18 years later! Enjoyable and quality, but the lower part packs a punch & I see from here now that a decent hold under the overhang has gone. Hard at the top too! Knee squirming! Top end VS 4c

with Liz
BeckyS 11/May/14 2nd
with Zaheer
cem 11/May/14 Lead rpt
with Tim Howard
Hidden ?/May/14 -
CurlyStevo 13/Apr/14 Lead

struggled on this after not climbing for a 4 weeks. Tough for VS.

with Mick Ward
Melonfly ?/Apr/14 2nd O/S
with Caleb
chris_woodsy ?/Apr/14 Lead O/S
Gareth T 15/Mar/14 Lead O/S
with Tim Popplestone
Dizz 15/Mar/14 Lead O/S

Think i finished up pilgrimage - good exciting climbing! :)

with Simon P
si_pro_83 15/Mar/14 2nd O/S
with Liz
craigaj.ace 14/Mar/14 2nd
with James and Vaclav
Kemics 13/Mar/14 2nd rpt

First time I followed the crack out right (more natural line?) from the roof. This time I tried the left hand exit. Both seem nice options.

with Trish, Mel
alastairbegley 09/Mar/14 Lead rpt

Forgot how good this climb is!

Nick Russell 09/Mar/14 2nd rpt

Went left at the overhang this time, rather than taking it direct.

steve_gibbs 09/Mar/14 2nd O/S
with George Cave
67hours 09/Mar/14 Lead O/S

Cracking route, some great sideways moves

with Steve "d00D" Gibbs
JClimb ?/Feb/14 2nd O/S
with Andy Varley
Ian Stirrups ??/2014 2nd

Done after Zulu, not much in the tank. Sue cruised it. Intro doesn't do this crag justice. Right hand crag has a succession of class routes - most are pushing 3 stars.

with Sue
PaulTanton 29/Dec/13 Lead O/S

Great climbing. I found the start the crux as it was cold.

with Alison McBride, Ken McBride
pftom 19/Oct/13 Lead O/S
chrisallan 06/Oct/13 Lead β
Mayaculpa 05/Oct/13 2nd
with Peter
pheotleyr 05/Oct/13 Lead O/S

The first ten meters are tricky and interesting, but the difficulties ease considerably afterwards.

with Mike
Dunx 22/Sep/13 Lead O/S
robh14 20/Sep/13 2nd
Stickle Tarn 27/Aug/13 Lead O/S
angie 24/Aug/13 2nd
Dave Mahon 03/Aug/13 Lead O/S

Brilliant climbing all the way. Strenuous for the grade.

matt.jj 03/Aug/13 2nd O/S

Tough VS. Great climb

with Dave Mahon
Peter Lovell ?/Aug/13 Lead O/S
MichaelConstantinou 28/Jul/13 Lead dog
with Ian Thompson
Penfold Merton 28/Jul/13 2nd dog

Dogged after trying (and failing) to liberate a reluctant nut for five minutes. Failed to realise that the silver hexes were not my partner's gear.

with torsok
torsok 28/Jul/13 Lead O/S
with OliverK
mattgrange 27/Jul/13 Lead O/S

Excellent climb albeit some caution required as the overhangs have suffered frequent rockfall.

Hidden 18/Jul/13 Lead
Cheese Monkey 12/Jul/13 Lead O/S

Really really good! Got quite pumped moving up to the overhang but I probably did it all wrong.

with Ian M
Ian Miller 12/Jul/13 2nd O/S

Cracking route.

pffft 01/Jun/13 2nd O/S
with Monkey
Monk 01/Jun/13 Lead O/S

Brilliant route. Varied, with sustained interest throughout. The tree at the top is totally hollow and won't be there for many months more. It'd take a braver man than me to an off that - there are at least 2 other an points within 10m which are much better.

with Andy A, Kylie, Luke
Hidden 27/May/13 2nd O/S
lakeyross 29/Apr/13 Lead O/S

Great route, made a little harder due to a nice flake laying at the bottom of the route and not where it was when the route was set

Puckle 29/Apr/13 2nd O/S

Good route, the step left from beneath the roof made a little harder by the fact the main exit hand hold is on the floor at the bottom, nice little traverse above and just when you think you're done...there's a little more good climbing to the top. The abseiling tat could do with replacing soon.

petellis 29/Apr/13 2nd O/S
with Sloth
Hidden 28/Apr/13 Lead O/S
lakeyross 01/Apr/13 Lead O/S
Kyuzo 17/Mar/13 -
Neil Morbey 09/Jan/13 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2013 -
rhysjones932 ??/2013 -
Hidden ??/2013 -
Hidden ??/2013 -
Stone Muppet 06/Oct/12 Lead O/S
with af
bpmclimb 04/Oct/12 Lead rpt
with Clare
Hidden 30/Aug/12 Lead
Jim Malo 29/Aug/12 2nd rpt
with Deborah
crossdressingrodney 23/Aug/12 Lead O/S

Nice route. Quite tough in places but well-protected. I placed 20 pieces of gear I think, mostly in the first 20 metres. My second left one of my hexes alongside the other two stuck ones.

with Mike, david m
Andrew Sloan 18/Aug/12 2nd O/S

Technically a better route than Questor.

with Tim
matjam 28/Jul/12 Lead O/S
Andrewbirkett 23/Jul/12 2nd O/S

Followed saz up, lost a nut as god knows hiw he got it in there. Pumoy first few moves nut then up you go!

with Saz
Hidden 21/Jul/12 2nd RP
Hidden 20/Jul/12 Lead O/S
Chris Sansum 14/Jul/12 Lead rpt

Led after Matt had a close call on it, falling upside down until his head nearly hit the ground. Good on him for getting back on and leading past the crux, but I don't think he was in the right frame of mind to complete the route.

with Matt, RMC, Peter Ocampo
poeter210 14/Jul/12 2nd dog
Hidden 11/Jul/12 2nd
Marti999 10/Jul/12 Lead O/S
with Debbie
Jim Malo 10/Jun/12 2nd O/S
with Barry
fatbuoybazza 09/Jun/12 Lead O/S
with jim
puppythedog 25/May/12 Lead O/S

Brilliant climb, absolutely brilliant, a mixture of techy and of strong climbing. Absolutely amazing climb. A great day out with John.

with JOhn Wilson
Hidden 22/May/12 Lead O/S
alastairbegley 21/May/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 12/May/12 2nd
ASchwirtz 06/May/12 Lead O/S
thomb 15/Apr/12 -
mike.moss 15/Apr/12 Lead O/S
Nevil 08/Apr/12 2nd
with Vince
Vincej 08/Apr/12 Lead
with Nevil
iforwms 28/Mar/12 2nd O/S
with Tim
TimPerkin 28/Mar/12 Lead O/S
Phil Layton 25/Mar/12 Lead O/S

A bit of a struggle.

with Justin B
Chris Sieradzki 22/Jan/12 2nd O/S
with Hooo
Hooo 22/Jan/12 Lead O/S

Really nice route. Constantly interesting and varied climbing with loads of solid gear. Better than Questor.

bluesharper 14/Jan/12 2nd
with Caleb
Kemics 14/Jan/12 Lead O/S

I thought this seemed quite straight-forward for VS. Well protected, easy to read and a definite classic!

Hidden ??/2012 -
Nick Russell 13/Nov/11 Lead O/S

Felt hard for 4c, but this was the first climb of the day. Moving right under the overhang seemed like the more natural line, so I took this. Maybe this was harder

CraigMcAteer 13/Nov/11 2nd
with nick
Rowan Mitchell 16/Oct/11 2nd O/S
with Andre Steele
jamespilgrim 24/Sep/11 2nd O/S

Burly first half, more technical second half

with RobinL
Bobcat5060 04/Sep/11 Lead
with Barney Ashton
Hidden 29/Aug/11 Lead O/S
simonsclimbing 29/Aug/11 2nd O/S
martin one 21/Aug/11 Lead O/S
with Neil Nand
ElBarto 20/Aug/11 2nd β

I thirded this but there was still gear to take out on my rope. I had toe rope that was used to protect the left hand section so most of the climb would have involved a swing had I slipped.

mikeydee135 19/Jul/11 2nd O/S
riddle 02/Jul/11 Lead O/S
with Yasmina
Hidden 02/Jul/11 2nd
Hidden ?/Jul/11 Lead O/S
fragglerock 19/Jun/11 Lead O/S

A pleasant excursion, following the obvious line to under the roof left by the fallen block then trending rightwards to the top. Typically good protection and fantastic views.

evilweed 12/Jun/11 2nd O/S
with Dan
masa-alpin 29/May/11 Lead O/S

A huge block (3 metres in height) was gone, destroying the yew tree below. The scar left was scary and the move there was worth 5a (or harder?). Belayed by Luke.

with Luke A, Yvonne
Hidden 29/May/11 2nd dnf
wildrover220 26/Mar/11 Lead O/S
Hidden 07/Mar/11 2nd O/S
Alasdair88 07/Mar/11 Lead O/S
AlexD 06/Mar/11 2nd
with Ceri
Ceridwen 06/Mar/11 Lead dog

This felt very hard for a VS, but I was cold and head not in the right place (excuses! excuses! it's a very long time since i had a take on a VS!)

Hidden 12/Feb/11 Lead O/S
bonelessivar ?/Feb/11 Lead O/S
Tim Sparrow ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Garron 12/Dec/10 Lead O/S
Paul Robertson 12/Dec/10 2nd O/S
with Garron
katiep 13/Nov/10 Lead O/S
Robin Head 13/Nov/10 2nd O/S
with Katie
jacobjlloyd 13/Nov/10 Lead O/S

Hard crux moves probably towards the upper end of the grade, but stupidly well protected with a clean comfy fall space. No reason not to get on it-the climbing is really fantastic! Polish in this case is comforting, showing you foot sequences, and doesn't add to the difficulty at all.

stuart34 20/Oct/10 2nd
with Ben Smith, Jerry Crabb
bpmclimb 30/Sep/10 Lead rpt
with Helen S
Hidden 30/Sep/10 2nd β
brew_guru 06/Aug/10 2nd O/S
with super gav
Hidden 01/Aug/10 2nd
Norman_P_W 01/Aug/10 Lead dog

Foot slipped off as moved left on first flake

Gregthebadger ?/Aug/10 2nd
lithos 17/Jul/10 Lead O/S

some nice climbing with a couple of delicate traverses

PaulWatson 11/Jun/10 2nd β

pretty tough this, nice and varied with both strenuous and delecate moves, the early flake is the crux, it took 3 goes and wore me out. Thanks Dave for getting me up!

with Dave P
stuart34 02/Jun/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 02/Jun/10 2nd
bormuf 30/May/10 2nd dog
s.c.white 26/May/10 Lead dog
Hidden 26/May/10 2nd O/S
Hidden 18/May/10 Lead O/S
aged_ape 18/May/10 Lead
with IH
Trisha Murphy 17/May/10 2nd O/S
grumpyoldjanner 08/May/10 Lead O/S
with Matt 'Bungle' Larkins
Jessie Rushbrooke 04/May/10 Lead β
with GF
climber sim ?/May/10 -
Hidden 28/Apr/10 2nd
mike lawrence? 28/Apr/10 2nd
with James the Navigator, Colin
theotherpetehill 25/Apr/10 2nd
chrisallan 25/Apr/10 Lead O/S
will_benfold 25/Apr/10 2nd O/S
dean79 18/Apr/10 Lead O/S

this place seems hard!

marclloyd77 18/Apr/10 2nd
tobyb 10/Mar/10 2nd O/S

Night climb

sgl0jd 01/Mar/10 Lead
stvredmond 01/Mar/10 Lead O/S

Didnt traverse left under the overhang, instead i went right (poor route navigation) and joined on with the bulge of pilgramage, not my best moment but got over it and continued with cadillac. was the hardest VS ive ever done until i realise i strayed on to E2 country

with James
simeclimb68 14/Feb/10 Lead rpt
with Tom Jewel
jchenoweth 31/Jan/10 Lead O/S
with Peter and Paul
Hidden ??/2010 -
Hidden 18/Oct/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 18/Oct/09 2nd O/S
andy dunn 20/Sep/09 Lead O/S
with Alan
aged_ape 17/Sep/09 Lead O/S
with JC
Hidden 09/Aug/09 -
willjones ?/Jul/09 Lead O/S
Different Steve 20/Jun/09 Lead O/S
with Clio
Francois S 20/Jun/09 2nd dog

Slipped after being broken by The Firebird :(

Clee 20/Jun/09 2nd
with Steve
Hidden 18/Jun/09 2nd O/S
Hidden 18/Jun/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 16/Jun/09 2nd dog
mikeshewring 13/Jun/09 2nd O/S
james.lane 31/May/09 2nd
with guidedmountain
Hidden 30/May/09 Lead O/S
Hidden 24/May/09 Lead O/S
mick1jones 09/May/09 2nd dog

Fell off at first flake - I think need to reach higher for hold?

with Alex Wellings
Rob84 02/May/09 Lead O/S
with Ed Hill
dswansonlow 13/Apr/09 Lead O/S
with Patrick Timoney
Chris Sansum 13/Apr/09 Lead dog

1 rest - at the undercut flake hold near the beginning. Had climbed this on a previous occasion.

with Gary Lewin
patrick.timoney 13/Apr/09 2nd O/S
with Dougie
Christian Reynish 04/Apr/09 Lead O/S

Took a rest on a wire under the orange roof, should have moved right earlier. Class climb.

with stu, Toby
Neil Stansbie ?/Apr/09 Lead
mickyconnor 28/Feb/09 Lead dog

gratuite francaise

with steve
brady 28/Feb/09 2nd O/S

more technical than Questor, but not as sustained. Excellent route.

with Micky
bpmclimb 27/Jan/09 2nd rpt
with Roger
garywong 06/Jan/09 Lead O/S
saz_b ??/2009 -
Goofyfoot ??/2009 -
mikeshewring 24/Sep/08 Lead O/S
Fatclimber 25/Aug/08 2nd dog

The traverse under the overhang was a nightmare.

Sam W 27/Jul/08 2nd
ian caton 13/Jul/08 2nd


with Abi
Abi Chard 13/Jul/08 Lead O/S
with Ian
leigh 29/Jun/08 Lead O/S
with Ed
Hidden 29/Jun/08 2nd
Tim M 25/Jun/08 2nd
with Emma
climbergg 25/Jun/08 Lead
thomasadixon 22/Jun/08 Lead O/S

Really nice route, definately VS, if hard.

with Bismarck
Hidden 08/Jun/08 Lead O/S
Tim W 08/Jun/08 2nd O/S
CarolineH 31/May/08 2nd O/S
with Dave and Joe
gareth r 30/May/08 Lead

Rested on gear

with Paul, Phil
Bristoldave 29/May/08 Lead O/S
with colin
Nigel R Lewis 11/May/08 Lead
with Tyrone saunders
btc 08/May/08 Lead O/S
with elliot hunston
tobydunford 15/Apr/08 Lead O/S
LiLaMont 15/Apr/08 2nd β
just one more 12/Apr/08 2nd
with tim b
Mark Walter 17/Feb/08 Lead O/S
markfromstoke ??/2008 Lead
with Steve N
Circus 01/Dec/07 Lead O/S

Bit wet, ish.

with Loz
Dr Caterpillar 01/Dec/07 2nd dog

wet and cold

with Adam
Chris Sansum ?/Dec/07 Lead O/S

Really nice route.

with Weilin Wang
bpmclimb 26/Aug/07 Lead rpt
with Clare
Christian Reynish ?/Aug/07 Lead dnf
Hidden 10/Jun/07 Lead RP
sadlerbrett 24/May/07 2nd dog

Not a very pleasant route. It would have helped if I'd followed the route and traversed right above the roof instead of trying to carry straight on up!

with Chris Horobin
cem 25/Mar/07 Lead O/S
with Pete Atkinson
Jim Slater ?/Mar/07 Lead O/S
with Russ Riseborough
Stone Muppet ??/2007 -
tom.e 03/Sep/06 Lead rpt
with Charlie Everett
Andrew1 25/Jul/06 Lead
with Rachel Smith
localboy 20/Jul/06 2nd O/S

Nearly came off twice

with Simon C
Hidden 02/Jul/06 2nd
tincann 09/Jun/06 Lead O/S
Boxy 07/May/06 Lead O/S
Fat Tim 08/Apr/06 Lead O/S
Hidden 11/Dec/05 Lead
givemetea ?/Jun/05 Lead O/S
with Ann Chong
Hidden ?/Jun/04 Lead O/S
Urgles ?/Nov/03 Lead O/S
with David Elder
bpmclimb 15/Sep/03 Lead rpt
with Clare
drysori ?/Jun/03 -
Jason Gotel ?/Apr/03 Lead O/S
with Pippa Lansdown
tom.e ??/2003 2nd O/S
with Charlie Everett
bpmclimb 09/Oct/02 Lead O/S
with Clare
Will Homoky 17/Aug/02 Lead O/S
with Ned Atkins
pezzerrr 25/Aug/01 Lead O/S
Hidden ?/Feb/01 Lead O/S
Rob Oram 01/Aug/00 Lead O/S

Great route with a great view but not sure about VS felt pretty bloody hard!

with Tom Asbridge
Hidden ?/Aug/00 Lead O/S
shoulders 30/Jul/00 Lead
with Goggles, dai
lost.arrow 08/Jul/00 -
alan moore ??/2000 -
Nigel Coe 27/Feb/99 2nd
with Mike Harris
liabilityliz 14/Jul/97 2nd
with Mark Trepte
goi.ashmore 30/Mar/97 Lead O/S
with Trudi Veenstra
mikej 07/Jul/95 Lead
with Simon Chapman
jim_randell 25/Mar/95 Lead rpt
with FW
Hidden ??/1995 Lead
jim_randell 18/Jul/94 2nd rpt
with WW
Didymus 30/Apr/94 2nd O/S
with Marcus
Hidden 10/Aug/93 Lead
Backinthegame ?/Jul/93 2nd
with Lynn Wilkins, John Wright
sdht ??/1991 -
strapless ?/Sep/90 Lead
with Ju
Hidden 01/Jan/89 Lead
RichardMc 21/Aug/88 Lead O/S
with Geoff Dunne
Tony Buckley ?/Feb/88 Lead
with Robert Clark
davemhart ??/1988 Lead O/S
tapley 04/Jul/87 Lead
with Alison Tapley
JamieAyres ?/Apr/85 2nd O/S
with Mark Hopkins
Andy Chubb 29/Aug/76 Lead
with Andrew Collins
Gordon Stainforth 13/Jun/71 2nd
with Tim James, John Williams
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