The Curtain*** IV 5
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Led 1st pitch which was hollow and fairly bold, got a couple of hexes to the RHS and a screw before the first cave (that I had to dig out to get at the insitu tat). Drew led 2nd pitch that was even bolder. Some better ice in places (a couple of screws placed), hollow with holes in other places). Over to ledge route (loads of snow on it) for descent.
Andy Hewison - AltLd O/S - 02/Mar/14 with Drew Connelly

Did 1st pitch which was sketchy at best, got a couple of hexes to the RHS, 2nd on 2nd pitch ( better ice, though a little hollow in places ) which we did as another 45m ish pitch then a easy few meter plod over to ledge route for decent
Mr Christian - AltLd O/S - 25/Feb/14 with chris p duck

Pitch 2 2 short screws ran the rope out 15 mtrs and belayed on the snow slope
chris p duck - AltLd O/S - 25/Feb/14 with Chris R

The Ghost Rider - AltLd - 22/Feb/14

Lost two draws to another party on the route. Please get in touch.
wilkinscl - Lead O/S - 22/Feb/14 with Ned, Edward shelly

Very busy day with over a dozen people hacking their way up. Best ice on p2 - p1 was a bit mushy and p3 a bit hollow.
morpcat - 2nd - 22/Feb/14 with Ned, wilkinscl

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Feb/14

nice easy nick
phil64 - Lead - 19/Feb/14

Good conditions except first pitch which was soft and wet.
sacdenouilles - AltLd - 19/Feb/14 with J F Philippe

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 18/Feb/14

Tom Vivian - 2nd - 18/Feb/14 with Spike Sellers, Jonathan

alifin - 2nd - 17/Feb/14

Good and solid ice&snow. It's, never steep, so well worth doing in these conditions. take 60m rope, as 50 doesn;t quite stretch for the top 2 pitches together.
UndercoverElephant - Lead O/S - 17/Feb/14 with S

Great route, Ice not great on first pitch, but much better on the top section.
georgec - Lead O/S - 16/Feb/14 with John

karlc - 2nd O/S - 16/Feb/14

Hidden - TR O/S - 13/Feb/14

The weather was full-on but the route was in good conditions. First pitch felt easy due to soft ice. Ice on the slab vibrated from our axes and crampons. The cave needed some excavation. Pitches 2 and 3 had proper ice and were awesome even if gusts nearly blew us off the face. It took some time to find protection for the top belay because there was so much snow. Great day!
Pohil - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/14 with Ed Watson

Hidden - AltLd - 09/Feb/14

Great route, fresh ice!
wupert - AltLd O/S - 09/Feb/14 with Dan Moore

magik_bob - 2nd - 07/Feb/14

Tilt - 2nd - Feb/14 with Ben Pearce

Hidden - Lead - Feb/14

saintlade - 2014

yesbutnobutyesbut - 2014

Abbed onto the route from Ledge Route to lead the lastpitch
John Roe - 20/Mar/13 with James Atkinson, Nathan Maxwell

Mowglee - 2nd O/S - 24/Feb/13 with Ralph

PYB intro final day, lead by Tim Neill
steveforgrieve - 2nd - 21/Feb/13

Glen Burrows - 2nd dog - 21/Feb/13 with Paddy Cave, Ed Luke

Hidden - AltLd - 15/Feb/13

At long last! A bit soggy on the day but all the ice was there, felt about IV,4.
Captain Solo - AltLd - 15/Feb/13 with Kenny

buzby78 - AltLd - 12/Feb/13 with Craig Smith

A quality day, The ben looking magnificent in its winter coat. The first pitch a little thin and run out but solid, superb climbing on the next two. A busy day out on the hill with many people enjoying the fine weather.
petegunn - AltLd - 12/Feb/13 with Ash

just easy hooking
simon kimber - AltLd - 12/Feb/13 with Phil Evans

Climbed pitch 2. First steep ice lead. Amazing climbing and mega exposure.
Jonny Nick - AltLd - 12/Feb/13

Charlie Zephyr Booth - Lead O/S - 12/Feb/13 with michael kirby

planetmarshall - 2nd O/S - 11/Feb/13 with Andy Owen, John Harrison

HendrikTBB - 2nd O/S - 11/Feb/13 with Andrew Marshall, AO

a13x - AltLd O/S - 09/Feb/13 with Jordan Phethean

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 09/Feb/13

Last climb with Rimon
gripped01 - AltLd - 09/Feb/13 with Rob Patchett, Rimon Than

Very thin initial slab but not sure if it ever gets fat. No convincing screws on the route but the neve was solid. Very good belays. Great route.
benclimbing - AltLd O/S - 08/Feb/13 with graham boistelle

Working. Pleasant and easy for the grade.
akhughes - Lead O/S - 07/Feb/13

gavinpeach - 2nd O/S - 07/Feb/13

mjsmith1973 - 2nd - 06/Feb/13 with Mike Pescod

tjmillen - AltLd - Feb/13 with Ian

jon59 - 2013

captain - 2013

ashpreston - 2013

Narked4fun - 2012

Hidden - 2012

thin on the slab until the overlap, take some stubby's, top pitch thick but also not taking screws well, may not last long...:]
simon_D - AltLd O/S - 15/Mar/11 with Ian W

Hidden - AltLd - Mar/11

wi11 - AltLd O/S - 22/Feb/11 with Chris Gee

Adam Booth - Lead O/S - 22/Feb/11 with Carl

Tim Sparrow - Lead - 21/Feb/11 with Pete Robinson

adie84 - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - Lead - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Tenko - 2011

Climbed rather out of condition, so the first half of pitch 1 was scratchy, insecure climbing on rock: well done Tom. Next pitch was great, but much thinner than in the photos I've seen: stepping round on to the steep ice wall on poor axes was a bit hairy, but made up for by superb exposure to the (2 rusty pegs + a nut) belay. The final short wall rounded it off nicely: a great salvage of a day so claggy we couldn't find the Comb!
andybuckley - AltLd - 07/Mar/10 with Tom Whipple

luckyjim - Solo - Feb/10

Hidden - AltLd - 2010

Hidden - 2010

colinthrelfall - 2010

cragmanuk - 2009 with Andy Kipling

windy100 - 2009

Neil Adams - AltLd O/S - 29/Mar/08 with Malcolm

Hidden - AltLd dnf - 27/Mar/08

simon_D - 2nd O/S - 27/Mar/08 with George McEwan, Andy Johno

sadams - 2nd - 24/Mar/08 with Eric Hildrew

Hidden - Lead O/S - 23/Mar/08

Greg Boswell - Lead O/S - Mar/08 with Bommer Harris

Hidden - 2008

Hidden - 2007

innesmac - 2007

nakedave - 2nd - 2006

Hidden - 2006

jaggy bunnet - AltLd - 06/Apr/05

Stuart Macfarlane - AltLd O/S - 13/Mar/05 with Paul

Hidden - 2nd O/S - Mar/05

Route I'd always dreamed of doing, bit of a let down but still a good day out
AndyH1710 - 2nd O/S - Mar/05 with Jason Day

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Mar/05

Guided
Ann S - 2nd - Mar/05 with Guide -Dave Hollinger

sgl - AltLd O/S - 28/Feb/05 with Konnie

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Feb/05

The Bad Cough - AltLd O/S - 25/Feb/05 with Paul Beacall

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Feb/05

Dave Latimer - AltLd O/S - 20/Feb/05

centurion05 - 2nd O/S - Feb/05 with Dan Carroll

seanyt - Lead - Feb/05

Hidden - AltLd - 10/Dec/04

Chris L Hill - 2nd - 22/Feb/04 with Di Gilbert, Stuart Shaw

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2004

Hidden - Lead - 2002

Hidden - Lead O/S - 26/Jan/01

vivid memory of watching the water under the ice and of water spurting over my axe head before starting the rising bulging traverse on the third pitch.
Dave Almond - Solo - Jan/01

Hidden - Jan/01

220bpm - AltLd O/S - Mar/00 with Alan

NickJH - Lead O/S - Feb/00

Hidden - Lead - Feb/00

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 2000

Hidden - Lead - 13/Mar/99

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 10/Mar/99

As part of course.
cem - 2nd - 24/Feb/99 with Phil ?, Simon P

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Feb/99

Dave Kerr - Lead - 10/Feb/99 with Craig Proctor

Hidden - Lead - Feb/99

Hidden - Lead - 1999

Hidden - AltLd - 1999

nickdonohue - Lead - 10/Mar/98

Hidden - 01/Mar/98

Hidden - Mar/98

AB1965 - AltLd - 19/Feb/98

phardman - Feb/96

Marti999 - Lead - Mar/95

tlr - AltLd - Jan/95 with Nick

alkira - 26/Apr/94

Mick King - Lead - 16/Apr/94 with Stu Hardacre

TheAndyBarker - AltLd - Jan/94

frost - Lead - 1992

OMSKB - 2nd - 11/Feb/91

Had been well hacked, so mostly hooking.
craig h - AltLd - Jan/91 with Nick D

Hidden - Solo - 15/Mar/89

Hidden - Lead - Feb/89

Hidden - Solo - 06/Feb/88

Grezza - Lead - Feb/88 with JuJu

Hidden - 1988

Hidden - Solo - 21/Mar/87

Hidden - Lead - 24/Feb/87

scree - Solo - Feb/87

Hidden - AltLd - 12/Jan/87

ChrisJD - Lead - 06/Jan/87 with PeteC

I soloed it after my friend Colin Gourlay had soloed it. He had forgotten his tools, so I lent him mine and we tossed a coin for who would go first. I lost.
GaryK - Solo - Apr/86

John Marsland - AltLd - 21/Feb/86 with Dave Soles

Hidden - Solo - 08/Feb/86

Hidden - 2nd - 01/Feb/86

Hidden - AltLd - 01/Jan/86

amcleish - 1986

jcw - 1986 with Roger Everett

Martin Haworth - AltLd O/S - Mar/84 with Dave Snowden

Bruce Kerr - AltLd - 14/Feb/84 with Dave Bartle

Gezzer - AltLd - 1984 with Steve Burns

Ghastly Rubberfeet - Solo - 1984

Mark Kemball - Lead - 25/Mar/83 with Aamir Butt

Hidden - AltLd - Mar/83

On course
Howard J - 2nd O/S - 17/Feb/83 with Loch Eil Centre

mark-abz - AltLd - 14/Feb/83 with Walter P

Soloed in the Eighties with John Christie in wet conditions
Lone Rider - 1980 with John Christie

Good nick. John Page also on rope
David Smith - AltLd - 16/Feb/78 with Al Bennett

Climbed in full conditions! Desperate descent down No.5 gully and lost Bob on the walk out. Gavin & Dudley meanwhile retreated from high on Observatory Ridge and were helicoptered off the ridge on their next attempt, when Dudley fell and was left swinging in space!
Sean Kelly - AltLd - Jan/78 with Bob Milward

Hidden - AltLd rpt - 1978

Falko - AltLd O/S - 01/Feb/77 with Andy Parkin

Paul Clarke - 1975 with FMC

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