Hidden - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/14
Wizzy - AltLd O/S - 14/Sep/14
Luci - 2nd - 14/Sep/14 with Scott
Hidden - AltLd rpt - 05/Sep/14
swmackey - Lead - 03/Sep/14
Under the roof belayed down and right of the rusty pegs (good gear). Pitch 3 traverse left is more like 10-12m than the 7m it says in the guide.
Simonfarfaraway - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/14 with Little B
Little B - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/14 with Simon
lead pitch 2 and 4
piersnewton - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/14 with Olly Roberts
ollyroberts - AltLd O/S - 26/Jul/14 with Piers Newton
redshapedfriday - AltLd O/S - 21/Jul/14 with Pete
alpinismo.uk - AltLd - 12/Jul/14 with Jen
led pitch 1 which was bone dry unlike last time i tried to do it with Becky! Deb led pitch 3&4 in one.
Lessworkmoreclimbing - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/14 with Patrick, Deb
Steven Carter - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/14 with Trythallj
t_hume - AltLd - Jul/14
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 23/Jun/14
David Smith - AltLd - 23/Jun/14 with Rik
Hidden - AltLd - 22/Jun/14
Hidden - AltLd - 22/Jun/14
Matt Poole - AltLd O/S - 21/Jun/14 with Thomas Heaton
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Jun/14
MDMD middle pitches nice but first and last scrappy and overgrown really
Marq - AltLd O/S - 01/Jun/14 with Dave P LMC
Andy Hewison - AltLd dnf - 30/May/14 with Chris Smail
jonny taylor - AltLd rpt - 17/May/14 with Calum, Tom P
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14
P3 + P4 Ben
If P1 were clean it would be a lot nicer, P4 was horrible. Second picth just about warrants a star in itself, but overall can't see why this route gets two stars.
slacky - AltLd O/S - 17/May/14 with Mel, Ben Abell
Route finding lessons on the latter half. I seem to have got the right line but heaven knows how.
sparkass - Lead O/S - 05/May/14 with Andrew Wightman
over grown and mossy, ran as many pitches in one to get off the route quickly. Josh Fawcett.
rich.manterfield - AltLd O/S - May/14
Keith Swainson - AltLd - 20/Apr/14
Not an immediately obvious line, and I wasn't at all sure about the final pitch - I couldn't tell where it should go as everything was filthy and loose-looking. Ended up finishing up The Coffin instead, which was marginally less filthy. The first pitch was made harder as all the best holds were soaking wet. The pegs mentioned in the guide have little more value than as waymarkers - utterly crap. And I wasn't over-inspired by the second belay, only finding one good piece (I belayed further across the traverse). In retrospect, it was fun but at the time was a little dissappointing.
Monk - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/14 with finchelata
Hidden - Lead O/S - 2014
Hidden - 2014
DanChad - 2nd O/S - 29/Sep/13 with Paul Deane, Chris Murray
Lead Pitch 1, 3 and 4. I went wrong at the top of pitch 3 and ended up too far left. Sorting it out meant I had to lead P4 too, which I found surprisingly enjoyable. For information, you are looking for the mossy looking overhanging blocks at the top of pitch 3. The ones that look like the route wouldn't possibly go up. There is a peg beneath the overhang. Don't be tempted by the cracks high on the slab on the left, as these lead round the corner to vertical choss. Pitch 4 is mossy in parts, but on a dry day, there was more than enough friction.
Le Chevalier Mal Fet - AltLd - 29/Sep/13 with Paul Deane, Dan Chadfield
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Sep/13
Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/13
Hidden - AltLd dog - 26/Aug/13
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 26/Aug/13
Soaking wet p1 and p2, pleasant climbing p2 and p3. Why the pegs as there is plenty of gear?
klipkabouter - AltLd O/S - 02/Aug/13 with Hugh ??
will moy - Lead - Aug/13 with sophie
Tricky move on the second pitch. Had to retrieve a wire from first pitch.
Alex Thompson - Lead O/S - 14/Jul/13 with Matt Marsh
Matt Marsh - 2nd - 14/Jul/13 with Alex Thompson
Absolutely plastered in chalk marks!
joe_lancs - Lead - 13/Jul/13
Hidden - 2nd - 13/Jul/13
Claireee - 2nd - 13/Jul/13
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Jul/13
Cocked up final pitch, think Carlene went way too far left at the e/o pP3 and I ended up essentially soloing 30 metres of vegetation - coining the new direct finish "Up the Garden Path"! Me P2+4.
Voltemands - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/13 with Carlene HIll
Pero - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/13
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Jul/13
guided. After being queue jumped - thanks or that. Good climbing throughout. P1 damp in places, fun on the rest Hardest bit is after finishing getting to the top!
lithos - Lead - 07/Jul/13 with ccc
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/Jul/13
bexyboo - 2nd - 24/Jun/13 with Duane
bexyboo - 2nd - 24/Jun/13 with Duane
Hidden - AltLd - 09/Jun/13
Great route, went properly off line on the last pitch, not sure the guidebook description is correct...but when the polish and chalk ends and the moss begins that should be a clue eh?!
mikemontain - 04/Jun/13 with alison williams
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/13
P1. damp but satisfying, middle excellent, finished up adjacent route on left as moss and lack of signs of traffic unwelcoming.
Louis Hume - Lead - 01/Jun/13 with Hair Bear
Hidden - 2nd - 01/Jun/13
P2&3 were great! P4 not so...covered in moss
I led pitch 2, Si ran P3&4 together
Leelogs - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13 with SCC
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 25/May/13
moist, damp, dirty and slippy....
rachelpearce01 - 2nd - 06/May/13 with Jake Shaw, David Robinette, Ben Kelsey
as a four. long. dripping wet. long. epic. long. incidents include loose blocks, ripping out small trees, gear ripping, italian hitches, ropes everywhere and stuck/jammed. glad to be alive, mentally drained. oops.
benkelsey - AltLd O/S - 06/May/13 with Jake Shaw, HPC
Ropes stuck, rusty pegs, wobbly blocks, broken trees. Could not have made it more difficult if we tried. Lead P3&4 as one and the top was wet, run out and terrifying.
JakeWShaw - AltLd O/S - 06/May/13 with Rachel Pearce, Ben Kelsey
drobin - May/13
myoung - AltLd O/S - May/13 with Helen
Hidden - 2013
robbo157 - 2013
Hidden - Lead - 2013
Hidden - 2013
scrappy last pitch, ended up covered in flying ants!
Dan Geh - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with Thomas Geh
tgeh - AltLd O/S - 11/Aug/12 with dan geh
Hidden - AltLd - 31/Jul/12
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 14/Jul/12
Hidden - AltLd - 14/Jul/12
wolverine - AltLd O/S - 03/Jun/12 with Iain Mount
very tricky move through the overhang past the old peg runner
watson.b - 2nd - 03/Jun/12 with carlh
Hidden - 2nd O/S - 02/Jun/12
2 good meaty pitches (2&3) with a messy but easy finale (may have gone the wrong way on last pitch). 4 pitches – led 2&4.
wild_nomad - AltLd O/S - 01/Jun/12 with Paul Day
Led P3/4 Nice route
odox - AltLd O/S - 27/May/12 with Sam Webb
P1 & P2
Rachel Somerville - AltLd O/S - 26/May/12 with Ali Wood
Hidden - AltLd - 26/May/12
machars - AltLd O/S - 20/May/12 with Ben Sharp
Ben Sharp - AltLd - 20/May/12 with Graeme Barr
Bob Windsor - AltLd - 28/Apr/12 with Rick Graham
Stephen Shaw - AltLd - 23/Apr/12 with Nick
nickcj - AltLd rpt - 23/Apr/12
I led pitch 1. Frigged pitch 2 on second as I was too tired and shouldn't have gone for 'one more route'. Left a size 2 DMM Wallnut in the crux of the 2nd pitch which I'd used to pull on to get out from under the roof. Colin got lost on the top pitch but found a way across 3 routes to the top! Just got down as it was going dark.
Phil West - AltLd dog - 05/Apr/12 with victim of mathematics
Led P2 and then ran 3 & 4 together. Not clear where it goes on the top slabs and everything up there is rather mossy and bold. The first half of the route is great though.
victim of mathematics - AltLd rpt - 05/Apr/12 with Phil
Me P2 and unknown sections higher as we could not find belay after P3.
egg-man - AltLd dnf - 28/Mar/12 with John Pickles
Hidden - 2012
Ian Hinkins - 2012
Hidden - 2012
Callum Anderson - 2012
dsgibson - 2012
gingermike1 - AltLd - 2012
JonG - 2012
cballard - Lead O/S - 2012
Owen_P - 2012
Stone Idol - 2012
Stone Idol - 2012
Adi Hooper - AltLd - 01/Oct/11 with Tom M Greenwood
Wanted to do Jubilee Grooves but pitches were horribly wet and greasy! So repeated this. This was minging too! Pitch 1 of Shroud then pitch 2 of grooves then traverse pitch shroud then last pitch of the coffin!
beds74 - AltLd - 29/Sep/11 with Jon Peffer
As beds says not the plan.
J1PEF - AltLd - 29/Sep/11 with beds
I led P1, 3 (ran top two together). went up early on the traverse and got a bit scared due to lack of gear.
NB Pixel - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/11 with Richard Haszko
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 31/Aug/11
55pete55 - 2nd - 17/Aug/11
SteveM - AltLd - 23/Jul/11 with Rachael
Led pitch 1 and 3.
spragglerocks - AltLd O/S - 23/Jul/11 with Steve M
Pitches 1,2 and 4
oliverk - AltLd - 03/Jul/11 with Serge
Ollie pitch 1. I climbed pitch 2. A good sustained climb.
sergio46 - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with Ollie
Hidden - 2nd - 04/Jun/11
Hidden - 04/Jun/11
Sam Simpson - AltLd O/S - 04/Jun/11 with Christian Turford
bullybones - 04/Jun/11
Hidden - AltLd rpt - 29/May/11
CRiddiford - AltLd O/S - 02/May/11 with Jake Young
Led p1 and p3, the p3 traverse was really cool.
Jake Young - AltLd O/S - 02/May/11 with Caroline
Lee Sheard - AltLd O/S - 29/Apr/11 with Adam
Led P1+P2 together, Chris led P3+P4 together.
stuaart - AltLd O/S - 29/Apr/11 with Chris Burn
Adam1973 - AltLd rpt - 29/Apr/11 with Lee Sheard
John Dale - AltLd - 29/Apr/11 with Mike Davies
Led pitches 3+4 together
chris_B - AltLd - 29/Apr/11 with stuart reeves
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 21/Apr/11
Nice climbing until the end of the 3rd pitch where it turns dirty, wet and covered in vegetation. A good clean would make this an excellent route.
bigbirdflying - AltLd - 19/Apr/11 with Chris Brook
P1 only - to access grand alliance
JRae - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/11 with Tom Dixon, A Saul
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 12/Apr/11
Hidden - Lead - Apr/11
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Apr/11
commiting move to the jug on the 2nd pitch
Ginger McGrath - Solo O/S - 26/Mar/11
Ruari Brooker - 2nd - 26/Mar/11 with Marie Penman, tom smith
thomasaneurinsmith - Lead O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Ruari Brooker, Marie Penman
I led pitches 2 and 4, Venla led pitches 1 and 3. Went to right of actual route to the left of a different peg than the one mentioned in the guidebook, on second pitch making it much more difficult.
LibS - AltLd O/S - 26/Mar/11 with Victoria Culshaw, Venla Kantola
Hidden - 2011
Hidden - 2011
Hidden - 2011
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 17/Sep/10
Jack Loftus - AltLd O/S - 17/Sep/10 with Pete Hill
jess - AltLd O/S - 04/Sep/10 with martin
Mark D - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/10 with Laurence Everitt
lead pitch 2 and 4
Laurence Everitt - AltLd O/S - 22/Aug/10 with Mark D
Pitch 1 and 3 for me
Richie Rich - AltLd O/S - 14/Aug/10 with Pete Colley
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 29/Jul/10
We decided to do this in two pitches as it was getting late and we had been on the crag all day. Pretty wet on the bottom pitch but otherwise a lovely climb and I felt confident even after the finger crack traverse with smearing feet to a small overhang to get to the belay. Hanging belay with a couple of bits of gear to rely on had me wobbling a bit, then Tom climbed to the very end of the rope and we couldn't hear each other to communicate. Waiting and starting to panic after a long long wait so decided to just go for it. By now I'm in full wobble mode and very glad to get to the top but never the less a lovely climb.
KateBolton - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/10 with Tom Boeckx
McDan - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/10 with Guy stevens
KevB - AltLd O/S - 30/Jun/10 with Tony P
theotherpetehill - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/10
Lead pItches 2 and 4.
Sean Bell - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/10 with Ali Cashman
zach.stone - 2nd rpt - 28/Jun/10 with Peter Hill
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Jun/10
Hidden - AltLd - 20/Jun/10
robinsi197 - AltLd - 30/May/10 with Nick
zach.stone - 2nd dog - 29/May/10 with Chris Allen
chrisallan - Lead O/S - 29/May/10
Jimmy O - AltLd O/S - 23/May/10 with Claire Poppett
clairepoppett - AltLd O/S - 23/May/10 with Jimmy O
Led P2; did this route afew years back but that reachy move is still good value for 4c!
markfairbank - AltLd β - 22/May/10 with Paul Sheehan
Fantastic route with fantastic weather!
Craig McMahon - AltLd O/S - 22/May/10 with Adam Cassidy
Led 2nd pitch
tatz45 - AltLd O/S - 15/May/10 with Wes Inskip
Adam1973 - Lead rpt - 08/May/10 with Ann S
Ann S - 2nd - 08/May/10 with Adam
Value for money! second pitch (as described in guide book) has awkward crux
csd23 - AltLd O/S - 02/May/10 with Arnaud Thl
Led P1(4b) and P4 (4b), seconded P2/3 (4c). Fell off on P3. P3/4 very, very dirty (lichen, moss).
presentt - AltLd dog - 01/May/10 with Jonny Pearson
funsized - AltLd O/S - 01/May/10 with presentt
Couldn't reach good holds on p2 (though may have been directed to go the wrong way). Top out is grim...
net - 2nd - 24/Apr/10 with George
GPN - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/10 with Annette
accidentally did the the top 2 pitchs of jubilee grooves, didnt traverse left enough and was tempted...
tomhull - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/10 with dan barnfield
si_green99 - 2nd O/S - 06/Mar/10
Hidden - 2010
Hidden - 2010
Hidden - 2010
Hidden - Lead O/S - 2010
cosmicray - 2010
Ken Taylor - 2010
we climbed this is torretial rain!! nice
bigdan050 - AltLd O/S - 2010 with Tosh
ST3V10 - 2010
Hidden - AltLd - 11/Sep/09
oliwarlow - Lead - 11/Jul/09 with Duncan
Led P1 and P3. Route finding was a bit of an issue - P4 is pretty dirty and it's not obvious that's where to go.
Brendan - AltLd O/S - 11/Jul/09 with Paul
Hidden - AltLd - Jul/09
Hidden - 16/Jun/09
Mark Salter - AltLd O/S - 07/Jun/09 with Chris Shorrock
Different Steve - AltLd O/S - 25/May/09 with Martin Hore
Hidden - AltLd - 28/Apr/09
Hidden - AltLd - 13/Apr/09
P3 turns out to be pretty harmless if it's just a bit drier...
jonny taylor - AltLd rpt - 15/Mar/09 with Andy B
Got as far as the final hard section in extremely wet conditions, but was unable to make the last few moves where the positive holds appeared to run out. After several attempts and a fall, we crabbed off left to slightly easier ground to finish.
jonny taylor - AltLd dnf - 28/Feb/09 with Andy B
beaumap - 2nd - 2009 with Peter Camp
Seymore Butt - 2009
ST3V10 - Lead - 2009
Christian Beck - AltLd O/S - 2009
2nd pitch I found hard due to long reach required.
Booey - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/08
andrew sandercock - AltLd O/S - 21/Sep/08 with jon armstrong
Had a look at the third pitch of jubilee grooves from the shared belay but it looked liked it hadn't been climbed for a while??
mikekeswick - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/08 with gill
still have to aid a bit over the little pull up, were going to go up the top 2 pitches of Jubillee grooves but looked really dirty and dodge tastic?!
gilldando - 2nd β - 24/Jul/08 with Mike
jason - AltLd O/S - 13/Jun/08 with manmike
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/Jun/08
Chris Davids - AltLd O/S - 09/Jun/08 with Phil B
Trobbo - AltLd - 09/Jun/08 with derek queenan
john lynch - AltLd - 08/Jun/08 with Lewis Andrew
Well this is a hard and comitting VS, P2 is more like 5a and P3 is quite exposed and head games were played by my self, P4 is frankly an escaping from the crag pitch.
A Crook - AltLd O/S - 02/Jun/08 with Duncan Hassell
clive-greenwood - Lead rpt - 28/May/08 with Kevin
RichardMc - AltLd O/S - 20/May/08 with Dave Langmead
Adam1973 - AltLd O/S - 17/May/08 with Chris Gooder
P1 & 4 were wet but the 2 middle pitches were great.
beckycoles - AltLd O/S - 03/May/08
Craig Geddes - AltLd - 21/Apr/08
got off route on the last pitch made for a dark decent
mattish2000 - Lead O/S - 2008 with Rob and Jamie
cat22 - 2nd O/S - 2008 with Mike
Completed first 2 pitches fine, but got off route on the third pitch missing pitch 4 altogether.
markfairbank - 2nd - 04/Nov/07 with Martin Kitson, Mick D
nasty last pitch, mossy, wet and unprotected with scrabbling through heather for the last 2/3m
AndyL - AltLd O/S - 06/Oct/07 with Will
pimpy - AltLd - Oct/07 with andy latham
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Sep/07
Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/07
4b, 4c, 4c, 4a. Led the 2nd pitch which was a coolbulge with a long reach to monster jugs. Excellent.
PenJD - AltLd O/S - 23/Aug/07 with James Thacker
Hidden - AltLd - 10/Jul/07
Hidden - AltLd - 07/Jun/07
Hidden - Lead dog - 26/May/07
Study your guide book well! Getting off route might be scary!
duzinga - 2nd O/S - 29/Apr/07 with Martina
had to cheat to get over the little overhanging crux...
gilldando - 2nd - 01/Apr/07 with Mike
Paula Hamilton-Gibson - AltLd rpt - 2007 with Nigel Jenkins
backed off after 2nd pitch - wet and mossy and horrible! First 2 pitches are nice climbing though.
kevinknights - 2nd dnf - 22/Sep/06 with matt, scott
Hidden - AltLd - 10/Sep/06
Hidden - 09/Sep/06
Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/06
Alaric - Lead O/S - 11/Aug/06 with Syd F
John Kettle - Lead O/S - 04/Aug/06
Rhiannon - 2nd - 30/Jul/06 with Stu
victim of mathematics - AltLd O/S - 22/Jul/06 with John
The crux was a bit of a tester but once I made the move it just happened. VNice
mooseloose - AltLd O/S - 22/Jul/06 with Safe Colin
Hidden - AltLd - 29/Jun/06
barney_edin - AltLd - 27/Jun/06 with Geoff M
Si dH - AltLd O/S - 11/Jun/06 with Robin Macintosh
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 13/May/06
mikekeswick - Lead O/S - May/06 with tommy
ewen - AltLd O/S - 2006
Benjones45_99 - AltLd - 2006 with Sam Cookson
Hidden - 2006
platt2000 - Lead - 2006
alpinismo.uk - AltLd - 2006
Chriswynn - 2006 with Steve Pettit
Hidden - AltLd - 08/Aug/05
Hidden - AltLd - 06/Aug/05
Shaw Brown - AltLd - Aug/05 with evmc
malc - AltLd rpt - 24/Jul/05 with Paul S
Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Jul/05
LP pitch 1 and 2
Se pitch 2 and 3
climbalive - AltLd - 17/Jul/05 with mike norbury
LP pitch 1 and 2
Se pitch 3 and 4
climbalive - AltLd O/S - 17/Jul/05 with mike norbury
Ian Hinkins - AltLd - 06/Jul/05
biggianthead - 07/Jun/05 with T
mikeyjbs - Lead - 30/May/05 with ollie noakes
smollett - AltLd O/S - May/05 with Francis blunt
Poor top pitch
Darrell Read - AltLd - 24/Apr/05
Trobbo - AltLd - 11/Apr/05 with andy mcvittie
Jim Walton - 2005
Hidden - AltLd - Aug/04
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Jul/04
Abi Chard - AltLd O/S - Jun/04 with Ian
malc - Lead - 22/May/04 with GP
John Pickles - AltLd O/S - 10/May/04 with Zac Poulton
Hidden - AltLd - 10/May/04
Hidden - AltLd O/S - May/04
Hidden - AltLd - May/04
Led the first and third pitches; got horribly off-route on the third, climbing steep, mossy rock with poor gear. Made it more exciting than it might otherwise have been...
Tom Stoddart - AltLd - Apr/04 with Colin Smith
Hidden - AltLd - 27/Sep/03
Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jun/03
Hidden - AltLd - Apr/03
Fell off the first time. Now led
chris wyatt - Lead RP - 2003 with Dave clode
Hidden - 14/Sep/02
Hidden - 2001
biggianthead - 07/Jul/00 with HT
steve prior - AltLd - Jun/00 with Andy C
gypsy3006 - Lead - 2000
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 24/Jul/99
guisboro andy - AltLd - Jul/99
SimonN - AltLd - 12/Jun/99
smudge - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/98 with Ant
Hidden - Lead O/S - 1998
rurp - 1998
mikej - AltLd - 03/Aug/97 with Nick Salmon
Rog Wilko - Lead - Jul/97 with Debbie Wilkinson
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 03/Aug/96
BlueJohn - AltLd - Jun/96 with Mick Stockdale
EddieA - AltLd O/S - Sep/95 with Simon W
MaNimal - AltLd - 01/Apr/95 with Rob Whiteman / Steve Pollington
Steve Lenartowicz - 1995
Hidden - AltLd - 04/May/92
djmarko75 - Lead O/S - Aug/91
auld al - Lead O/S - Jun/91
Hidden - Lead dnf - 06/Aug/90
stewart murray - Lead - 1990
Chris Ellis - 2nd - 24/Sep/89 with Ken Morris, Ernie Horrocks
phardman - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/88 with Roger Gibbs
neil3965 - 30/Apr/88 with Bill McCrae
Richard Weller - AltLd - 26/Aug/87 with Simon Currin
Probably went off route...
hazeysunshine - AltLd O/S - 29/Jun/86 with Phil
Hidden - AltLd O/S - 27/Oct/85
Hidden - Solo - 05/Jun/85
Hammy - Lead - 09/Jun/82 with Tim Hulley
tapley - Lead - 14/Apr/82 with Chris Seymour
Nic Robinson - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/81
Hidden - Lead - 1981
Hidden - 1981
Hidden - Jun/80
babymoac - AltLd - 04/May/80 with MTW & Babs
Lord of Starkness - Lead - 1979 with Stu Ely
Dave Musgrove - AltLd O/S - 23/Sep/78 with Jim Worthington
Hidden - AltLd - 1978
Hidden - Lead O/S - Jun/76
Nigel Bond - Lead - 06/Jul/75 with Bob Windsor