Curving Crack* VS 4c
[Contemplating the crux on Curving Crack, 2 kb]10m. Loop along the curving crack then swing right on jams past the arete to finish up Sandy Crack, which may be the crux! © ROCKFAX
Awkward getting around the arete.
FA. Al Austin 1958

Ticklists: ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Burbage, Millstone and Beyond Routes Graded List, Revenge List, Steve Ashton's 100 Classic Gritstone Climbs, Eastern Grit Jamming, Northern Grit 100 VD - VS.

Photo: Contemplating the crux on Curving Crack © D. Lumber
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Fell off at crux...!
Ellie Fuller - Lead dnf - 25/Oct/14 with Marie, Callum

Jack93 - Lead rpt - 25/Oct/14 with Jim Hulbert

Hidden - Lead O/S - 19/Oct/14

Unknownbiker - 2nd - 19/Oct/14 with Simon Burn

Aaaaarrrggghhhh!
Matt Bill Platypus - Lead dnf - 05/Oct/14 with Hazel

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Oct/14

Tried going straight up the arete at the top at first, (coz I didn't check the guide).
g1m147 - Lead - 28/Sep/14 with Mick.

Thought the route went up the arete. Above the c crack.Fell off trying.
benlatham07 - Lead dog - 28/Sep/14

Fell on the moves before the arete, seems very hard for the grade, but on the plus side I managed to retrieve the previous team's stuck cam when cleaning the route after taking a lob onto it! First lead fall too, at least thats out of the way now.
LovelyMrTom - Lead dnf - 28/Sep/14 with Tom Cooksey

Fell exiting crack, watched the two next attempts (see below comments) also fall at similar points. Tough! Thankfully cam was eventually recovered too. I'll be back...
williap - Lead dnf - 28/Sep/14 with Juilette

D Berry - 2nd β - 27/Sep/14 with Wayne S

Wayne S - Lead O/S - 27/Sep/14 with Dale

Not easy! Hung around for a while on the top section trying to extract some stuck gear so by the time I tried to finish it I had run out of juice. Very nearly got it but hand slipped off just at the step off into the vertical crack and took a long swinging fall! Thnaks for holding it Claire, at the expense of grazing your hand.
stevelismore - Lead dnf - 21/Sep/14 with Claire PCC

Hidden - Lead dog - 15/Sep/14

AdamPrzeslak - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/14 with Steph Ward

Lots of cams and lots of jams. Even with the rope above me, didn't find this easy- interesting cross-over (on jams) near the corner.
djones66 - 2nd O/S - 07/Sep/14 with Stve mc D

Hidden - Lead - 07/Sep/14

Bryan Maloney - 07/Sep/14

felt like gear wouldnt place well and I'm too out of practice just now too!
doughobbs - Lead dnf - 24/Aug/14 with Antoinette Wintin

davidalcock - 2nd - 09/Aug/14 with mapperley samurai

mapperley samurai - Lead - 09/Aug/14 with David Alcock

Calum Wadsworth - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/14 with Emma

Mark Adams - 2nd - 02/Aug/14

lcullum7 - 2nd β - 30/Jul/14 with Ky Aizawa

Hidden - Lead dnf - 30/Jul/14

got spat out at the crux, nice fall and swing. solid jams, awkward finish for a big lad
RUDIN.J.D.H - Lead dnf - 30/Jul/14 with Sam Rudin

kyaizawa - 2nd O/S - 30/Jul/14 with Emma Reynolds

Climbed it again to retrieve gear from attempts by others.
kyaizawa - Lead rpt - 30/Jul/14 with Sam Rudin

Emma Reynolds - Lead O/S - 30/Jul/14 with Ky Aizawa

Hidden - Solo O/S - 12/Jul/14

DanChad - 2nd O/S - 08/Jul/14 with Richard Bower, Chris Murray

5A my arse
Le Chevalier Mal Fet - Lead - 08/Jul/14 with Dan Chadfield, Richard Bower

cp - Chris
davidanthony - TR dog - 05/Jul/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - Jul/14

Tony Ryland - 2nd - 29/Jun/14 with Dave McKie

Joe.Elliott1 - Lead - 22/Jun/14

Brilliant jamming...
gazfellows - 21/Jun/14 with Nic

Big fall from arete!
buxtoncoffeelover - Lead - 16/Jun/14

Hard at the top of the C! Nik had a big fall! Didn't finish without a slip - went back on TR to finish.
tom_lewis89 - 2nd - 16/Jun/14 with Nik Hawkins

Really hard!
tom_lewis89 - TR - 16/Jun/14 with Nik Hawkins

Paul Eckton - Lead O/S - 14/Jun/14 with steve read

birthers - Lead O/S - 31/May/14 with Caroline C

caroline256 - 2nd - 31/May/14 with Tom B

Hidden - 2nd - 18/May/14

Jack Whiteley - 2nd rpt - 14/May/14 with Tim George, John Hayes

Hidden - 2nd - 06/May/14

drysori - 2nd - 05/May/14

Anne Gumbley - 2nd - 05/May/14 with Harry Middleton

wow! harder than expected felt like stiff vs 5a to me. although I suspect good/ careful technique yields vs 4c
bede.west - Lead O/S - 04/May/14

LJC - Lead O/S - 03/May/14 with Adrian, Euge, Sully, Phill

Looks great but didn't enjoy it one bit! Awkward, didn't know whether to jam or undercut.
ben.phillips - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/14 with Jared Kitchen

Horrible, total sand bag
Lazytraveller - Lead dog - 19/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/14

Enjoyed seconding this route, tricky moves, may come back and lead...
alp79 - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/14 with Sam Fletcher

alooker - Lead O/S - 12/Apr/14

Fell off at the crux, need to go back and finish
Emily93Mobley - Lead dnf - 23/Mar/14 with steve

Awesome climb :) tried it once before hail lead to bailing, came Off at the crux, will be back to tick this route :)
Steven1993 - Lead dnf - 23/Mar/14

Found this really awkward. Lost my footing a couple times towards the top of the curving crack.
Big Lee - Lead dog - 15/Mar/14 with Mark Walker

Tophe - Lead β - 12/Mar/14 with Jonny P

Scary round the corner!
funsized - Solo rpt - 12/Mar/14 with Chris

jh1990 - Lead O/S - 2014

Fell from arete then seconded partner.
matt.stevenson - Lead dnf - 11/Nov/13

David Pallot
dannyboy83 - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/13

splat2million - 2nd dog - 17/Oct/13

Hidden - 2nd dog - 06/Oct/13

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/13

Oo - 2nd - 06/Oct/13

top roped after steve had a bit off a battle, total sand bag!
LukeP LCC - TR - 29/Sep/13 with steve kirman

DanOsb - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/13 with lyns

efrance24234 - Lead O/S - 29/Sep/13 with Beth heatherington

farmerwad - Lead - 22/Sep/13 with Andy f

john_ni - Lead - 22/Sep/13 with James Lismore (PCC), Jim Slater (PCC)

Hidden - Lead dog - 20/Sep/13

gavinpeach - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/13 with James Lawson

Jim Malo - 2nd O/S - 08/Sep/13 with Mark

dr_botnik - Lead O/S - 03/Sep/13 with Paul Hy

Paul Hy - 2nd rpt - 03/Sep/13 with Rob S

tough exiting crack
Lukem6 - Lead RP - 20/Aug/13 with Darren

Hidden - 2nd - 19/Aug/13

Found the offwidth finish on the neighbouring Severe the hardest bit. Good jams all the way, faffed with gear far too long.
Rob Jarratt - Lead - 06/Aug/13 with Andy Crawley

Hidden - Lead dog - 02/Aug/13

Feet dissapear fast, but the jams get better and better
Chris Redding - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/13 with Jack Knight

Jack93 - 2nd O/S - 01/Aug/13 with Chris Redding

slipped off after spending about 30 mins trying to retrieve a stuck cam
PeteWilson - 2nd - 25/Jul/13 with Andrew Graham

ouch
Dan Vaj - Lead dnf - 13/Jul/13 with Dave Minshall

Well hard never again
the power - 2nd - 27/Jun/13 with ken

JHiley - 2nd - 26/Jun/13 with Fran

Awesome but brutal jamming all the way. Getting round the arette is a struggle!
franhammond92 - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/13

Sandbag
Kirill - Lead dog - 16/Jun/13 with Igor Gotlibovych

ig248 - 2nd - 16/Jun/13 with Kirill

tiga271 - Lead - 08/Jun/13 with Michael ukc

Jimbo C - 2nd - 02/Jun/13 with Chris, Will

Tithe Technique - 2nd dog - 01/Jun/13 with Angela Paul

Really enjoyable climb lots of great jamming. Bit stiff for a warm up though!!
valentinesbabe - Lead O/S - 01/Jun/13 with Kevin Tithe

quite high in the grade I thought, but never 5a. Bit awkward here and there and unusual climbing. Well protected.
CurlyStevo - Lead - Jun/13 with Rob

awkward didn't like it at all. It begin far too hot and me too slimy probably didn't help
robbraby - 2nd - Jun/13 with Steveo

Well protected. I wanted to do is as an undercling, but as it happened it went as a jamming crack.
Al Urker - Lead - 19/May/13

RossT - 2nd - 19/May/13 with Martin

Lead it and left the gear behind for Tom to lead on.
MPSBunny - Lead O/S - 05/May/13 with Tom Luff

MPSBunny - 2nd - 05/May/13 with Tom Luff

hipyhop - 2nd - 05/May/13 with Ben

hipyhop - Lead dog - 05/May/13 with Ben

Tamati - Lead O/S - May/13

stuaart - 2nd - 20/Apr/13 with Thomas Smith

thomasaneurinsmith - Lead dog - 20/Apr/13 with Katherine Torr, Stuart Reeves

jimbonfire - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/13

David_Gledson - Lead O/S - 05/Mar/13 with Tom, Rich Timms

timmsy - 2nd - 05/Mar/13 with David_Gledson

Hidden - Lead O/S - 02/Mar/13

Maxim2023 - 2nd - Mar/13 with Kate Tarrant

kate tarrant - Lead O/S - Mar/13

dominic lee - Solo O/S - 18/Nov/12 with nathan lee

Paul Hy - 2nd - 18/Nov/12 with Michael H

Not a very stylish lead! may have dodged the real line of the route's upper section above the crack, lowered off once, rested on last cam in the curved crack a few times,wrecked hands!
Michael-H - Lead dog - 18/Nov/12 with Paul Hy

ellie belayed. 2 rests. very painful hand jams! awful feet!
Paul1 - Lead - 03/Nov/12

jwpil - Lead O/S - 07/Oct/12 with Deacon

Pre-placed gear from Jacks ascent. Pretty tricky
deacondeacon - Lead - 07/Oct/12

Loved this, excellent combo of hand/fist jams and undercuts. Definitely worth more than one star.
thomaspomfrett - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12 with Kirsty Marsden

Lloyders - Lead O/S - 06/Oct/12 with Bones

Found the crack heading right seriously hard work. Had a couple of rests to rethink strategy. Didn't enjoy this at all, these kind of routes are a definite weakness.
mattwilk - 2nd dog - 23/Sep/12 with Mike

Reminiscent of Almscliff. I've never sworn so much, it was just obscene. Weigheted at 2/3rds into the crack then took my first lead fall after that leading into the crux section. It took everything I had but it still wasn't enough.
Pike - Lead dog - 23/Sep/12 with Matt Wilkinson

malc - Lead dog - 22/Sep/12 with Paul Scott

ianjfsutcliffe - 2nd rpt - 16/Sep/12 with Coatesy

Richard P Coates - Lead rpt - 16/Sep/12 with ianjfsutcliffe

georgedunton - Lead O/S - 16/Sep/12 with tom folley

Hand/Fist Jam Goodness, awkward to exit
atom - Solo - 09/Sep/12

Andy Fielding - Lead - 08/Sep/12 with Paul Wright

goddamm7 - 2nd - 08/Sep/12 with andy fielding

CharlieMack - Lead O/S - 04/Sep/12 with Jen Maxfield

Jake Young - Lead rpt - 04/Sep/12 with Jem

Hidden - 2nd RP - 04/Sep/12

67hours - Lead O/S - 02/Sep/12 with Becky H

Harder than it looks, or easier than I made it look! The final crack was a doddle compare to what had come before...
Simon Caldwell - Lead O/S - 01/Sep/12 with Carmen

hotfeet - Lead - 01/Sep/12 with Alex Pond

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/Sep/12

Hidden - 2nd - 18/Aug/12

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Aug/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Aug/12

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead - 29/Jul/12

oodie72 - Lead O/S - 28/Jul/12 with Alex Thackway

alex thackway - 2nd - 28/Jul/12 with iain

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/Jul/12

Jonny Nick - Lead O/S - 15/Jul/12

will_benfold - 2nd O/S - 15/Jul/12 with Cameron

Graham's first lead, boom.
tomsmartacus - 2nd β - 15/Jul/12 with Graham Oxnard

Made a bit of a mess of this one. Got into a very precarious position with hands and feet at almost the same position, and only really made it to the top following some helpful advice from the bottom. There must be an easier way than what I did, so I'd quite like to try it again.
cameron_hall - Lead β - 15/Jul/12 with Will Benfold

ColinD - 2nd - 10/Jun/12 with Seth Barber

hotfeet - Lead - 26/May/12 with Gary P

Deezel65 - Lead O/S - 21/May/12

Fragmod - 2nd - 21/May/12

Hidden - Lead dnf - 19/May/12

Hidden - Lead dnf - 19/May/12

Harri777 - 2nd - 13/May/12 with Simon H

Hidden - Lead dog - 13/May/12

Been waiting for this for a long time. Worth the sore knuckles, and no, it aint over till its over !
Neil Rodgers (PCC) - Lead O/S - 12/May/12 with David PCC, Mick Sissons

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/May/12

Hidden - 2nd - 12/May/12

jonleighton - 2nd O/S - 12/May/12

riff156 - Lead O/S - 06/May/12 with Jo Smith

Only just clean, Jesus - made it harder then it should of been. Looking afterwards we should of stayed low on the jams but rocked over onto the ledge instead, up to the blank face then shuffled around the arete. Great lead by Jack....
charley - 2nd O/S - 05/May/12 with JackD

Found this a bit of a struggle getting round the arete!
Jackwd - Lead O/S - 05/May/12

Oliver Houston - Lead O/S - 05/May/12

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 05/May/12

Nickster - 2nd dog - May/12 with alan Purgues

bullethead - Lead dnf - 15/Apr/12

bullethead - 2nd dog - 15/Apr/12 with Sam, Richard Yorke

demons exorcised
Palmer - Lead - 07/Apr/12

Awesome jamming puzzle. Bit scary.
Daniel Heath - Solo O/S - 30/Mar/12

byatt2002 - Lead - 30/Mar/12

stefie c - 2nd - 30/Mar/12 with Matt Harmon

1 fall/ slump, and 1 rest. The move round the arete to Sandy Crack is delicate.
Richard Alderton - Lead dog - 24/Mar/12 with CB

DBoothroyd - 2nd O/S - 18/Mar/12 with Nick Ellmore

getting round that corner in to SAndy Crack is trickier than it looks!
Steven Andrews - Lead dog - 10/Mar/12 with Howie

tom.e - Lead O/S - Mar/12 with Claire

Matt Harmon - Lead O/S - Mar/12 with Stefie Cray

Tony Kartawick - 2012

admackie - 2012

ianjfsutcliffe - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/11 with Coatesy

SaraAT - 2nd dog - 06/Nov/11 with Jonathan Phillips

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Nov/11

Richard P Coates - 2nd dog - 06/Nov/11 with ianjfsutcliffe

pie_eater_pete - Lead O/S - 28/Oct/11

davewsargent - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/11 with andy neath

an excellent little route this, solid but varied jams all the way.
JamieSparkes - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Liam Ingram

The Big Sender - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Fergus Cuthill

FAIL!
allyrocke - Lead dog - 16/Oct/11 with Clement Hutin

Liam Ingram - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/11 with Jamie Sparkes

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/11

Jonesy_A - 2nd O/S - 14/Oct/11 with NJSharp

Rob84 - 2nd rpt - 24/Sep/11 with Rob Adie

chris_B - Lead - 17/Sep/11 with Lou Atkin

louby - 2nd - 17/Sep/11 with Chris Burn

Only used one jam. Nearly came off at the top of the crack tho
vix - Lead O/S - 20/Aug/11 with Jonny

Hidden - 31/Jul/11

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Jul/11

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Jul/11

Nick Rundall - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/11 with Matt Moore, Jon Taylor

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Jul/11

shouter - Lead - 09/Jul/11

NearlyDutchDan - Lead O/S - 07/Jul/11 with Profesor Bunsen

The move round the corner into the top of Sand Crack is a bit disturbing.
Becky E - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/11 with Andy PCC

Tough for VS
max_chan - 2nd O/S - 30/Jun/11 with John PCC

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/11

I was lured in by the lovely line, but found it quite challenging at the top of the curve, nothing for the feet, my foot slipped and i fell but my fist jam held me, hurt a lot though!
AlexxelA - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Jun/11

Got a couple of great knee bars where the massive crack meets the arÍte again, whilst waiting for someone to chuck up another friend.
Jack Whiteley - Lead O/S - 21/May/11 with Paul and Izzy

Rhythm24 - Lead dnf - 01/May/11 with Hannah

Tamati - Lead O/S - May/11

Ron - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/11 with Chris

ajc - Lead O/S - 24/Apr/11

Led by Steve. I think I might be able to have a go at leading this soon, felt better this time.
Neil Rodgers (PCC) - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/11 with Steve Carty, Helen PCC

When does "Dogged" become "Aid"?
James_D - Lead dog - 17/Apr/11 with Esther

Gustav - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11 with James H

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Apr/11

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Apr/11

Neil Rodgers (PCC) - 2nd O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Mark PCC, Jonathan Keats PCC

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Apr/11

leonjones - 2nd - 09/Apr/11 with Max Streeton

Monkey_Alan - 2nd - 09/Apr/11 with Leon Jones, Max Streeton

DavidR - Lead O/S - 09/Apr/11 with Holly Adamthwaite

Tom Redmond - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/11 with david knight, Jake Young

Hidden - Lead - 21/Mar/11

Jake Young - 2nd - 21/Mar/11 with Dave Knight, Tom Redmond

Jonny M - Lead O/S - 19/Mar/11 with Karen Chalmers

Hidden - 2nd dnf - 19/Mar/11

payeo20 - 2nd - 01/Mar/11 with Kris Bull

Loved every minute of it!
thebullmaster - Lead - 01/Mar/11 with Phil Y

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 12/Feb/11

alasdair19 - 2011

PAJames - 2011

Hidden - Lead - 2011

adie84 - 2011

patsaunders - Lead - 2011

Hidden - 2011

fifth - 2011

Erinmd - 2nd O/S - 07/Nov/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/10

Excellent climbing despite the lack of an independent finish
Pete Nugent - Lead - 30/Oct/10 with Trish Mellor

The last part was definatly the crux for me.
trish1968 - 2nd - 30/Oct/10 with Pete Nugent

hazeysunshine - 2nd - 17/Oct/10 with Dave

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/10

Sam Simpson - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Joe Hill

Hidden - Lead dog - 16/Oct/10

Lenny - 2nd O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Paul

climbing_wiggy - Lead O/S - 16/Oct/10 with Leon

schaff - Lead O/S - 09/Oct/10 with Glen

Hidden - 2nd - 26/Sep/10

Stuart Wildman - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/10 with J

Hoyes - 2nd O/S - 18/Sep/10 with Seth B

Felt pretty desperate at the corner. DMac came off a couple times.
DKaye - 2nd O/S - 12/Sep/10 with Duncan MacNeil

smolders - 2nd rpt - 05/Sep/10 with Ben R

thecurlyone - Lead O/S - 05/Sep/10 with Martin Oldham

Hidden - Lead O/S - Sep/10

highfivekrissy - 2nd - Sep/10 with Bruno Yates

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Aug/10

Hard!
Shad - 2nd - 08/Aug/10 with Steve, Bernie

Steve J P - 2nd - 08/Aug/10 with BW

Bernie Wylde - Lead - 08/Aug/10 with shad, sp

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/10

funsized - Lead O/S - 03/Aug/10 with Caz Wilcox

garywong - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/10 with Jason Kleine

swinging past the arete was little awkward
smolders - 2nd - 02/Aug/10 with Loic

kleinej - 2nd β - 02/Aug/10 with Gary

Was tempted to rest but went for the crux. Made it clean thanks to a crease for right hand & a wide step.
pastep - Lead - 01/Aug/10 with ebf

Rob84 - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/10 with Flash

Ander - Lead - 11/Jul/10 with Aleister Crowley

john_ni - Lead O/S - 01/Jul/10 with Trevor Wilson (PCC)

Jess patel - Lead dog - Jul/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Jun/10

Obviously having an off day as didn't use one jam. Still, pleased to get up it clean. Beautiful piece of rock.
embob - 2nd - 27/Jun/10 with Alex

Hidden - Lead dog - 27/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd dog - 22/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 19/Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 15/Jun/10

wazir.safeer - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/10 with Alkis

I tried to lead it, thought you're meant to go straight up the arete instead of traversing into the crack, so was climbing way too high and some silly moves later took a massive fall from the arete on a #1 cam. Seconded it fine afterwards, irritated that it would have been an onsight lead had I read the guidebook a bit better...
Alkis - 2nd rpt - 13/Jun/10 with Saf

Hidden - 2nd dog - 05/Jun/10

tigertim - Lead O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Gabriel Berry

SteWatkins - Jun/10

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 30/May/10

jtree03 - Lead - 30/May/10 with Brother Al

Andy Peak 1 - 2nd - 09/May/10 with pabage

pabbage - Lead O/S - 09/May/10

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 01/May/10

ben_250 - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/10 with Beth, Andrew

ptigga - 2nd O/S - 24/Apr/10

My only fall of the day - gutted ! The crux on this route is hard to get right and even when I did I found it tenuous and a bit desperate getting round the corner. I had 2 falls, both times being tempted into going to high with my feet due to the undercut hand holds - stay low, jam and hope you get something for your feet as you make the move round the corner ;-)
jandyd05 - Lead dog - 24/Apr/10 with Julie Anglesea

mol - 2nd - 24/Apr/10 with Joe, Jesse

My nemesis from last season. Lead it clean this time but still found it very tough. Happy to have ticked it off - now I can move on!
graphiclunarkid - Lead β - 24/Apr/10 with ptigga

Jesse Dufton - Lead - 24/Apr/10 with Molly Thompson

Hidden - 2nd - 24/Apr/10

Tricky little route, with getting around the corner at the end of the crack very awkward (I fell off)!
bigglesbutcha - Lead dog - 18/Apr/10 with Murray Gallagher

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Apr/10

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Apr/10

Hidden - Lead rpt - 17/Apr/10

Could not work out crux move - one to come back for!
honourableschoolboy - Lead dnf - 14/Apr/10

hellboundblr - 2nd - 10/Apr/10 with Danny Smudge

Hidden - Lead - 10/Apr/10

Fantastic route. Nightmare ascent. Fell off once trying to clear a jammed nut. Could not get back to the nut - lowered off. Climbed back to the nut. eventually got it out. Then slipped off doing next move swung onto the crack next to it just finished that route missing half a metre of the route.
grubes - 2nd - 04/Apr/10

A compelling and elegant line followed by a desperate footless grapple round an arete to finish. Entertaining.
Hardonicus - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/10 with Luke Donaldson

peter myers - Lead - Apr/10 with Ben Ransom

peter myers - Lead - Apr/10

kermit_uk - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/10 with Steve Woolass

Gav A - Lead O/S - 20/Mar/10 with Tom Harvey

joe.91 - 2nd O/S - 17/Mar/10 with Olli Crudge

bloomin scary getting around the arete
Olli-C - Lead - 17/Mar/10 with Joe Dobson

gknyus - TR β - 15/Mar/10 with Warner the Kurd

Falling off a VS! Never thought i'd see the day. Went too high, lost balance, took whipper, bruised ankle. All very humbling....
Jon_Warner - Lead dnf - 14/Mar/10 with Edan

Sam1991 - 07/Mar/10

bigdrew - 2nd dog - 07/Mar/10 with Sam Dixon

Flash29 - 2nd O/S - 2010 with Rob

Dom Whillans - Lead - 26/Sep/09 with a.crook

A Crook - 2nd - 26/Sep/09 with Dom Stockton

honey_badger - TR dog - 20/Sep/09 with Mark

Jonathan Hall - 2nd - 20/Sep/09 with Mark Williams

disturbed_one51 - Lead - 20/Sep/09 with Steve Sadler

Jim Slater - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/09 with Alan

One rest
adamscottthomas - Lead dog - 20/Sep/09 with Simon Brocklebank

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 20/Sep/09

Hidden - 2nd dog - 19/Sep/09

Helen Gibson - Lead O/S - 18/Sep/09 with Richard

philboy - Lead - 15/Sep/09 with bisanth

felixthelion - Solo O/S - 12/Sep/09

Ha Haa! - got the crux wrong and fell off. Think I went too high up the crack. Should tried to mantle. Good fall though and well protected. Lovely curving crack until that point. Poor V's hands got a bit mangled:/ I will come back and will finish that bugger.
Lumbering Oaf - Lead dnf - 05/Sep/09 with Verity Payne

Hidden - 2nd - 05/Sep/09

Hidden - Lead dog - 16/Aug/09

cliffy - 2nd - 15/Aug/09 with Andrew Combes

richorme - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/09 with Gary Woodburn

First route of the day and hated it.
minaturechris - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/09 with Barra

Hidden - 2nd - 08/Aug/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 08/Aug/09

staceyjg - 2nd - 08/Aug/09 with Barra

MD - Lead dnf - 02/Aug/09

mark20 - 2nd rpt - 25/Jul/09

after falling on two previous occasions last year !
tiga271 - Lead - 25/Jul/09 with mark20

Hard for VS and is a bit run out about 3/4 the way along the crack. Very sustained route too.
krikoman - Lead O/S - 25/Jul/09 with Jez Wilton, Kev Gibbs

Mark and Kev reckon this is undergraded - I couldn't get near it
Jeremy Wilton - 2nd - 25/Jul/09 with Mark Readman, Kevin Gibbs

Karlos - Lead O/S - 23/Jul/09 with Becky

Becky E - 2nd - 23/Jul/09 with Karl PCC

Hidden - Lead dog - 12/Jul/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Jul/09

couldn't layback the flake so escaped around the corner and finished the last section.
Rhythm24 - 2nd dog - 10/Jul/09 with Gaz Billings

Hidden - 2nd - 10/Jul/09

willson - 2nd - 29/Jun/09 with chris

Alexanderw - 2nd dog - 25/Jun/09

failed to lead it so seconded...found it very hard
phja - 2nd O/S - 23/Jun/09 with zoe marshall

Pete Randall - 2nd - 14/Jun/09 with Kai

Everything great until crux passing over onto sandy crack. Hung around for ages too high then stepped back down and slumped onto gear. Had rest then approached lower and went much smoother. First lead semi-fall (Cams work!)
john.gaffney - Lead dog - 13/Jun/09 with torialou

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09

Mike Soulby - 2nd RP - 29/May/09

Jonathan Hall - 2nd - 29/May/09 with Mike Soulby

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 10/May/09

Hidden - 2nd - 02/May/09

Great climb - alluring line, great jams, superb protection and not strenuous. Not sure what all the fuss is abut the step around the arete? I found it to be fine - good jams and a nice bridge across to the slab on the far side of Sandy Crack. One to do again and again.
Steve Waters, Mynydd - Lead - 02/May/09 with Mike Tempest

Hidden - 2nd - 02/May/09

Cake - Lead - 02/May/09 with Matt

Hidden - 2nd - 22/Apr/09

Lou Kennedy - Lead - 22/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead - 20/Apr/09

Came unstuck just before gaining the arete :o(
graphiclunarkid - Lead dnf - 20/Apr/09 with arctic jen

arctic_jen - 2nd - 20/Apr/09 with Rich

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 18/Apr/09

Hidden - Lead O/S - 13/Apr/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 12/Apr/09

mickJ - Lead - 07/Apr/09 with mike b

seemed tough for 4c, slumped onto the gear right at the end of the crack as my feet kept popping off. warm, so i'm blaming poor friction (!) i'll be back
frecro - Lead dnf - 05/Apr/09 with Zoe Thornton

@ndy - Lead dog - 04/Apr/09 with gareth

Adam1973 - Lead O/S - 21/Mar/09 with Alex

Twisty - Lead rpt - 15/Mar/09 with Nigel Stock

fatbuoybazza - Lead O/S - 15/Mar/09 with liv_the_div

did as warm up
tallsop - TR - 2009 with Mark

Ian Hamer - Lead O/S - 2009 with Steve

Hidden - Lead - 2009

Hidden - 2009

gillybon - Lead - 2009

Dad took fall from the arete, he left the gear in, and I led it clean. Hard move to get around the arete and into Sandy Crack. Bomber cams. Can't really claim the onsight though.
mark20 - Lead β - 27/Sep/08

Fell off, twice, got further second tine, almost made it around the arete !
tiga271 - Lead - 27/Sep/08 with Mark, Dave

chiverstom - 2nd O/S - 27/Sep/08 with Ivo

Barry D - Lead - 21/Sep/08 with Jon P

Hidden - 2nd - 21/Sep/08

jcurley - Lead O/S - 20/Sep/08 with Richard CC

GrantB - Lead - 13/Sep/08 with Alaan

Ben Harper - Lead O/S - 13/Sep/08 with Andy Webster

Fell stepping round too low.
Swirly - Lead dog - 25/Aug/08 with Steve

metal arms - Lead O/S - 24/Aug/08

Hidden - 2nd dog - 24/Aug/08

I didn't really realise quite how 'jammy' it was going to be, nor how tenuous the foot holds would be when I needed them most. The jams felt solid enough (I still have most of my skin, so I must have been doing something right), but moving between them proved too hard and I ended up slumping onto my gear a couple of times. Quite frustrating, definately more jamming practice required!
whiting.jp - Lead dog - 24/Aug/08 with jamesca

Hedley - 2nd dog - 24/Aug/08 with Steve Grey

Yuk.
chris sm - 2nd O/S - 23/Aug/08 with Pippa Froggatt

wheelo - 2nd dog - 10/Jul/08 with ann &chris

john lynch - Lead - 01/Jul/08 with mike lynch

leon - Lead - Jul/08 with Andrew Southam

K9 - 2nd dnf - 28/Jun/08 with Clair Wilson

Chris Lyon - Lead O/S - 28/Jun/08 with Dom

Thought the crux was pretty tough for VS. Rest was lovely though.
Shauna - Lead O/S - 24/Jun/08 with Chris Tan

Should have listened to the advise on here about this climb. Really nice but getting round the arete was nails! Spent too long on first try and came off, and was then too pumped to do it on my next try! Backed off due to being too pumped, chris lead it, but did have 1 fall at the same point!
wingalina - Lead dnf - 19/Jun/08 with Chris Bussell

chrisbussell - Lead dog - 19/Jun/08 with Jonny Wing

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/08

duzinga - 2nd O/S - 08/Jun/08 with Pete

Hidden - Lead - 08/Jun/08

Hidden - Lead - 31/May/08

gethin_allen - Lead O/S - 21/May/08

Jimbo C - 2nd - 21/May/08

victim of mathematics - Lead O/S - 26/Apr/08 with Karl

Hidden - Lead O/S - 10/Feb/08

Neil Pacey - Lead O/S - 10/Feb/08 with Tanya Savage

moving from crack round the corner very very hard indeed
Tanya Savage - 2nd - 10/Feb/08 with Neil Pacey

Alfredo - 2nd - Feb/08 with Ben H

b.hayley - Lead - Feb/08

Very windy, did for Nigel who apparently had a mare on it :p
Twisty - Lead O/S - 27/Jan/08 with Byron Buck

lowersharpnose - Lead - 01/Jan/08

Jim Walton - 2008

daveagriff - 2nd - 2008

datoon - Solo O/S - 2008

Hidden - 2008

Chazz - Lead O/S - 03/Nov/07 with Roy Prestwich

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 24/Oct/07

Stig - Lead O/S - 18/Oct/07 with Charlie Reade-Jahn

Ian Parnell - Solo - 17/Oct/07

Phil Jennings - 2nd β - 15/Oct/07 with Ed Watchorn

bpmclimb - 2nd O/S - 14/Oct/07 with Wendy

tradguy - 2nd - 12/Oct/07 with Brian Mead

annoying, fell at move to arete, but could have done it with more thought. Not pumped or psyched and had the holds!
pog100 - 2nd dog - 08/Sep/07 with Reaver2k

Almost died on this! Ok, not quite but by far the hardest lead I have done! Had done before and was climbing well that day, pushing VS so decided I would give this one another shot! Everything was fine, up the easy starting holds and along the crack abit. 2 relatively bomber pieces of gear in, then for some reason started thinking irrationally! Started worrying about my Dads safety when he was seconding! Big mistake! Ended up on the quite blank part of the slab trying to fiddle in a nut! Very fustrating because I could feel my energy wasting away from my arms! Eventually got a piece in (took a long time, kept getting wrong gear) did a hard and switch on jams (wrong sequence I think) and quickly rushed right a couple of feet so I could get my leg up and feel abit more secure on an ACTUAL foothold! quickly slammed in another cam before going around the corner (in a very stenuous position). Got round the corner with relative ease and onto the nicely angled slab on Sandy crack! A thank god moment! Couldn't reach over the top of the chockstone so had to throw the screwgate on the sling over the top of it (which much failure again) then a quite strenuous but not too technical difficult topout! At the end I was fully pumped and realised my mistake, should have powered through the move without good footholds and got straight up onto the corner rather than trying to place gear in a strenous position to only save myself 1ft in a fall! Think I will be back AGAIN for another attempt at this, still not happy with myself but atleast I didn't fall!
Reaver2k - Lead rpt - 08/Sep/07 with Mike Saul (Dad)

Hidden - Lead rpt - 26/Aug/07

Hidden - Lead O/S - 01/Aug/07

got sequence wrong, fell off, got back on, got it right, got too pumped, and fell off. Miserable failure.
Caralynh - Lead dnf - 01/Aug/07 with Mark (Thurg)

Hidden - Lead - 31/Jul/07

Katya - 2nd - 24/Jul/07 with Iain

andy gravestock - Lead O/S - Jul/07 with dad and garath

Hidden - 2nd - 29/Jun/07

tlr - Lead O/S - 29/Jun/07 with Pom

Hidden - 2nd - 17/Jun/07

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 17/Jun/07

jonnyboy - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/07 with Graham Armitage

pumpy and a hard move out of curving crack round the corner into the top of sandy crack.
twodada - 2nd - 11/Jun/07 with Rich Barnes

Tim W - Lead O/S - 10/Jun/07 with Janna Trevorrow

towdman - 2nd - 20/May/07 with Graham Armitage

Graham Armitage - Lead - 20/May/07 with towdman

Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 29/Apr/07 with Phil Baxter

Brown - Solo O/S - 18/Apr/07 with John

Headpoint again, Frank preplaced gear. A brilliant one to check if any jamming skill had come to me! Something clicked abit on this I think, absolutely beautiful jams, tricky feet placements, only dimples I could find were very sandy nearing the end of the slab. Almost fell, slammed in about 3 very quick jams, a high foot, wrong sequence so wriggled round the corner onto the crack and awkwardly regained my balance. Crux was easier than Quien Sabe? in my opinion. Final moves quite a struggle also, but chockstone deffonately helps. Would be alot scarier if I wasnt just clipping quickdraws, especially the crux final moves of the curving crack onto the other wall. Ripped up hands, but hands were so numb from the cold it was hardly noticeable. Got to the top absolutely buzzing about the quality of the jams.
Reaver2k - Lead β - 24/Mar/07 with Frank, Matt, Katie and Louise

howlingbaboon - 2nd O/S - 24/Mar/07 with Scott

Hidden - Lead O/S - 03/Mar/07

pumpy on undercuts
cia05js - Lead O/S - 18/Feb/07 with David Moir

dmoir - 2nd O/S - 18/Feb/07 with James Sexton

Nicos - Solo O/S - 27/Jan/07 with solo

pauldr - 2007

pauldr - 2007

simonw1 - 2nd - 04/Nov/06 with Allan Watson and Claire Dawes

toasted - Lead - 04/Nov/06 with Simon Whitehead

Ben1983 - Lead O/S - 14/Oct/06

Hidden - 2nd - 14/Oct/06

Raggar - 2nd - 20/Sep/06 with Jon B

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/06

lithos - Lead - 30/Aug/06 with cef arch

Hidden - Lead - Aug/06

Soloed and felt a bit dodgy on this just prior to doing jetrunner!
Joe Costello - Solo O/S - 11/Jul/06 with Matt

Julia Chatterton - 2nd - 11/Jun/06 with Will

Hidden - Lead dog - 03/Jun/06

Richard - Lead - Jun/06 with Carrie

interesting
Sam and will - Lead O/S - 16/May/06 with Anthony Bennett

MikeDowsett - 2nd - 14/May/06 with Andy Neath

dave fell
mark4344 - 2nd - 10/May/06 with dave tourell

Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Solo O/S - 06/May/06

didn't find the last undercut hold for the move to the arete
epic ed - Lead dnf - May/06 with Katie

PenJD - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/06 with Lianna Scholes

baldcoder - Lead O/S - 30/Apr/06 with Little Old Lady

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Apr/06

Hidden - Lead - 10/Apr/06

dan gibson - 2nd - 10/Apr/06 with AJ

Si dH - Lead O/S - 04/Feb/06 with Robin Macintosh

Hidden - Lead - 2006

clintos - Lead O/S - 2006 with jonny green

Hidden - 2nd dog - 17/Sep/05

kyt341k - 2nd β - Sep/05 with Ben Freidland

Hidden - Lead - 17/Jul/05

mikej - Lead - 05/Jul/05 with Rick Naylor

HARD
Alex Mason - Solo - Jul/05 with christov ramsden

Rampikino - Lead - 26/Jun/05 with Rob, Mark & Mark

Hidden - Lead - 12/Jun/05

Budge - Lead O/S - 16/May/05 with Martin Gillie

Late night sandbagging goes wrong! Alice failed to lead, I had almighty struggle...
Chris the Tall - Lead β - May/05 with Alice Chaplin

Siderunner - Lead O/S - 16/Apr/05 with John E

Tough
BruceW - Lead O/S - Apr/05 with Jen

kenneM - Lead - Apr/05 with Sam Proctor

Phil West - 2nd rpt - 25/Mar/05 with Shaun Walby

shaun walby - Lead O/S - 25/Mar/05 with Phil West

Hidden - 2005

Hidden - TR - 2005

Smelly Fox - Lead O/S - 01/Dec/04 with Rob Clifton

erica - 2nd dog - 31/Oct/04 with Chris

John Brayshaw - 2nd O/S - 31/Oct/04 with Chris

Laramadness - Lead O/S - 31/Oct/04

JohnHutch - Lead - 08/Mar/04 with L

cem - 2nd - 15/Feb/04 with Graham Dolman

tuftynick - Lead - 2004

rob wmc - 2nd O/S - 16/Nov/03 with Alan & Pete

SteveM - Lead - 25/Oct/03 with Tobs

Phil West - Lead β - 18/Oct/03 with David Atherton

Hidden - Solo O/S - 30/Mar/03

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 30/Mar/03

Phil West - Lead dnf - 15/Mar/03 with Chris Tan

Hidden - Lead - Mar/03

Hidden - 2nd - Mar/03

DerwentDiluted - Lead - 19/Oct/02 with Chris Pearson

reg_measures - Lead O/S - Aug/02 with henry

kato'sdad - Lead - 04/Feb/02 with Rob Simpson

RobSimmo - 2nd O/S - 04/Feb/02 with Jon Berry

Hidden - 2002

Rich Malcolm - Lead RP - 26/Mar/00

Roget - Solo O/S - 26/Feb/00

Hidden - Solo O/S - Mar/98

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Feb/98

charlesmfrench - Solo O/S - 06/Oct/91

Ken Taylor - AltLd - 12/Oct/86 with George Diprose

Mark Kemball - Solo - 29/Nov/82 with Paul Clark, Paul "Curly" Williamson

Hidden - Solo - 22/May/81

Chris Craggs - Solo - 1980

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