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The Vice** E1 5b

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[Attempting the Vice., 2 kb]10m. The leaning widening crack is climbed by strenuous jamming to a gruesome shelving exit where the crack flares. Gritstone brutality at its best, it can be a hideous affair, unless you are a proficient jammer with big leathery hands! © ROCKFAX
FA. Clive Rowland 1962. (Pete Crew according to some).

Ticklists: BMC On-Peak Rock: Jamming tests, ROCKFAX Eastern Grit: Top 500, Stanage Routes Graded List, Gritstone's finest gruesome and damaging struggles, 50 cracks to Squamish.

Photo: Attempting the Vice. © Duz Walker
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This climb is in 89 logbooks, and on 38 wishlists.

Tophe - Lead RP - 05/Oct/13 with Ben Ochner, Jonny P

funsized - Lead RP - 05/Oct/13 with Chris

beneole - Lead dog - Oct/13

What a struggle!
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead RP - 08/Sep/13

Hidden - 2nd - 09/Jun/13

Hidden - Lead - 04/Jun/13

JulesV - 25/May/13

took a couple of goes to reach the offwidth, I found this the crux and gave up. it was easy to retreve the gear from the block on the right
dr_botnik - Lead dnf - 19/May/13

Really pleased to onsight this. I've been dreading it for ages but didn't find it too bad in the end, although I did do a little Ondra power scream at the top. Oh and no tape too.
deacondeacon - Lead O/S - 19/May/13

Not as hard this time
Andy Peak 1 - Lead - 19/May/13

Hidden - Lead RP - 04/May/13

steve_yo - Lead O/S - 02/Apr/13 with jojo

5 falls, 3 stars
Hannes B - Lead - 02/Mar/13 with Emmsi

andi turner - 2013

slipped near top, straight back on and up.
john lynch - Lead dog - 05/Oct/12 with ed luke, adam harrison

Felt hard, but it was the 64th route of the day!
Boy - Lead - 09/Sep/12

With a anti-midge head net. Took a near ground fall from the crux, and didn't try again. Tough!
masa-alpin - Lead dnf - 19/Aug/12 with Andy Rich

I did not start
sshandy - 2nd - 19/Aug/12 with Masa - Avalanche Valley

Lives up to its reputation and then some, butch, burly, sequency, relentless jamming, actually the top out is probably the worst bit, took its pound of flesh from my hands, even after tapping up.
Brannock - Lead dog - 22/Jul/12

Dead arrd
Andy Peak 1 - Lead - 15/Jul/12 with random

Hidden - 2nd dog - 15/Jul/12

Taping up isn't cheating.
ianjfsutcliffe - Lead dog - 26/May/12 with Courty

M_W_Court - 2nd - 26/May/12 with ian sutcliffe

Brown - Lead - 16/May/12 with Ryan

seccond go ground up.. put a bloody cam were i needed to jam. brill route though! 3 stars
efrance24234 - Lead RP - 14/May/12

Obi-Wan is lost... - 2nd - 11/Mar/12 with Calum

Tony Kartawick - 2012

Tony Kartawick - 2012

hard, end of day syndrome. come back and get slightly further off the ground this time
benkelsey - Lead dnf - 22/Oct/11 with Remus Knowles

Hidden - Lead RP - 22/Oct/11

Hidden - Lead dnf - 11/Jun/11

Hidden - Lead O/S - 07/Jun/11

So much blood. Got up to the good fists and had to back off, hands were still ruined from the unprintable + a month of climbing, this finished them! I'll be back.
JRae - Lead dnf - 07/Jun/11 with P Latham

Got spanked at the end on the jams at the top as my hands just couldnt stay in the beast. Great fun but brutal.
disturbed_one51 - Lead dnf - 21/May/11 with Wee man

Tough, awesome. I can (just about!) jam! Seconded clean afterwards for the fun of it :)
thomasadixon - Lead dog - 01/Apr/11 with Mike

ACE!!!! A much easier top out than I was expecting, large fists and good apprenticeship in gritstone jamming helped. Planned my gear placements from the ground, the sprinted for glory, abseiling for the gear took more time. Well chuffed, only a couple of minor cuts to the back of the hands too, tapping up would be cheating!
Graeme Hammond - Lead O/S - 27/Mar/11 with Becky E

David Smith - 2011

hands knackered.need friend 4
alasdair19 - 2011

John Roberts (JR) - Lead - 2011

keith leonard - Lead dnf - 2011

mwatson - 2011

walts4 - 2011

A great introduction to what has now become my new favourite climbing style! Fell off a couple of times low down as I didn't get the right sequence but it really didn't matter, I haven't been so excited about topping out a route in a long time.
Andrew Barker - Lead - 22/Aug/10 with Tom Lyons

Hidden - Lead dog - 30/Jun/10

Utterly dogged - rested after almost evey move. But still felt like an achievement to have got up it!
max_chan - 2nd dog - 17/Jun/10 with Phil PCC

Desperate, especially with the rope blocking the crack!
Tez29 - 2nd dog - 28/May/10 with Todd, Tom, Ivan

ground up on 5th attempt... one of my favourites.
dav - Lead - 18/Oct/09 with Gill B

Hidden - Lead dnf - 17/Oct/09

Too much pain, couldn't push through. Almost quit completely. It has teeth! My hands were fairly bloody. Perfect introduction to grit jamming for a crimping limestone junkie!
jacobjlloyd - 2nd dog - 11/Oct/09 with Felix

feilx - Lead O/S - 10/Oct/09 with Jake, john

craig d - Lead O/S - 22/Aug/09 with penny and simon

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Aug/09

Brown - 2nd dog - 05/Jul/09 with John

wolverine - 25/Jun/09 with John Nightingale

Sigh...and *ow*...
alicia - Lead dnf - 07/May/09 with Bridget

eddy-on-the-rocks - Lead O/S - 06/Apr/09 with Dan

keith leonard - Lead dnf - 2009

Ian Hamer - 2nd dog - 2009 with Steve

al99 - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/08 with James Whitlock

Hidden - Lead dog - 29/Jul/08

alaan - Lead dnf - 12/Jul/08 with James and Jim

Pete Graham - Lead - 13/Feb/08 with Tom Everett

Hidden - Lead dog - 10/Feb/08

Hidden - Lead dog - 2008

Hardest 5b in the world!??
Paul Phillips - UKC and UKH - Lead dog - 25/Aug/07 with Liam O'Loughlin

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/07

Hidden - 2nd rpt - 17/Jun/07

jamesturnbull - Lead - 2007

Hidden - Lead O/S - 11/Sep/06

dan gibson - 2006

Nicos - Lead RP - 13/Nov/05 with rich howels

reg_measures - Lead dog - 05/Jun/05

Tim Steward - Lead - 05/Jun/05 with Torran Elson

Scottish78 - 01/Apr/05

Tom Briggs - Jagged Globe - 2005

Hidden - Lead dog - 05/Sep/04

Really proud of my onsight of this one. Needed alot of gumption. Almscliff apprentiship helps, as will skin sacrifices
Cragrat Rich - Lead O/S - Aug/04

Hidden - Lead O/S - Aug/04

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Jun/04

Nicos - Lead dnf - 17/May/04 with mark richardson

shoulders - Lead - 22/Jun/03 with dai

Can't fist jam for toffee.
Jon Read - Lead dog - 2001 with Alan James

tuftynick - Lead - 2001

goi.ashmore - Lead RP - 22/Aug/00 with Kaspar Martin

Hidden - Lead O/S - 09/Sep/95

Hidden - 2nd - 13/Jun/93

BRUCESTRAC - 1990 with Chris Cracknell,Various

Chris Craggs - Lead O/S - 1980

rogerskews - 1976

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Style of ascent

Lead63 of 89 (70.8%)
Followed12 of 89 (13.5%)
Unknown14 of 89 (15.7%)

'Climbed'33 of 89 (37.1%)
clean O/S16 of 89 (18.0%)
clean rpt1 of 89 (1.1%)
clean RP8 of 89 (9.0%)
dogged19 of 89 (21.3%)
dnf12 of 89 (13.5%)