UKC

14m.

Rockfax Description
THE route of the slab has long had a contentious grade, chiefly used to warn the uninitiated. With a good runner in the right place it would be nearer Hard Severe! From the initial crack, trend left across sloping ledges to a flake and teeter up this. The crux is a move higher than you might want. © Rockfax

FA. Joe Brown 1948.

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Chrishallrocks 26 May, 2023 Show βeta
βeta: Red ball nut in the pocket and it'd be very friendly for any hs leader
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βeta: Red ball nut in the pocket and it'd be very friendly for any hs leader
edmunek 19 Jun, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: attempted to lead this one with gear. went through the first move up, slowly traversed, found no gear placement, went back right and finished as a different route. 20 minutes later decided to check it as top rope, once checked, went solo as found that there is no point of dragging any rope or gear
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βeta: attempted to lead this one with gear. went through the first move up, slowly traversed, found no gear placement, went back right and finished as a different route. 20 minutes later decided to check it as top rope, once checked, went solo as found that there is no point of dragging any rope or gear
miguelboland 18 Apr, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: Turns out micro cam placements high up would rip out quite easily!
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βeta: Turns out micro cam placements high up would rip out quite easily!
iambalaam 9 Apr, 2022 Show βeta
βeta: Size 1 tricam may or may not protect the last moves
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βeta: Size 1 tricam may or may not protect the last moves
Jimp97 8 Nov, 2020 Show βeta
βeta: Managed to get a 0.3 zero in one of the pockets, not sure it would of held though.
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βeta: Managed to get a 0.3 zero in one of the pockets, not sure it would of held though.
Toops 6 Sep, 2020 Show βeta
βeta: Can’t protect the top, easy but scary!
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βeta: Can’t protect the top, easy but scary!
JayW 10 Aug, 2020 Show βeta
βeta: Managed to get a good wire in about half way then magically a green dragonfly in at the flake. It felt more like a psychologically placement that definitely wouldn't hold a fall but when Cole seconded it and pulled it it wouldn't come out.
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βeta: Managed to get a good wire in about half way then magically a green dragonfly in at the flake. It felt more like a psychologically placement that definitely wouldn't hold a fall but when Cole seconded it and pulled it it wouldn't come out.
climberclimber321 9 Aug, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Took too long to commit to each move at the top but was all easy
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βeta: Took too long to commit to each move at the top but was all easy
Bryku21 17 Jul, 2019 Show βeta
βeta: Found a tiny placement of a totem before the crux.
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βeta: Found a tiny placement of a totem before the crux.
Adrian Berry 5 Aug, 2007 Show βeta
βeta: The big pocket mentioned in the description as a likely cam placement will actually take a fairly reasonable Camalot 3 - it takes a bit of playing around, but I've placed worse gear. With this on one rope and a Zero on another - a fall might just be thinkable - would be a fun experiment. As for the grade: if the last moves are 6a rather than 4b(?) it would be E6, so logically it's E1 - surely? ;-)
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βeta: The big pocket mentioned in the description as a likely cam placement will actually take a fairly reasonable Camalot 3 - it takes a bit of playing around, but I've placed worse gear. With this on one rope and a Zero on another - a fall might just be thinkable - would be a fun experiment. As for the grade: if the last moves are 6a rather than 4b(?) it would be E6, so logically it's E1 - surely? ;-)
aulda 23 Aug, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Fun route - all in the head. Pretty pointless taking up gear except for setting up belay at the top.
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βeta: Fun route - all in the head. Pretty pointless taking up gear except for setting up belay at the top.
LakesWinter 12 Aug, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: I was too scared to do this one for years! But everyone is right, the moves are easier than they look and feel really positive. A pleasant climb and probably VS 4b really
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βeta: I was too scared to do this one for years! But everyone is right, the moves are easier than they look and feel really positive. A pleasant climb and probably VS 4b really
Glen 17 Mar, 2006 Show βeta
βeta: Not HVS surely? Ok there's no gear, but you're not very likely to fall off with modern rock shoes. HS/VS
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βeta: Not HVS surely? Ok there's no gear, but you're not very likely to fall off with modern rock shoes. HS/VS
craigswoods 29 Aug, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Did this before TPS and enjoyed it a lot more. Did try fiddling my smallest cam in below the flake but it was too big. Just have to trust your feet.
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βeta: Did this before TPS and enjoyed it a lot more. Did try fiddling my smallest cam in below the flake but it was too big. Just have to trust your feet.
Mr Pink 2 12 May, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: My point was that the gear in the flake is almost certainly not going to hold. A steady head is all that is required to make this climb safe.
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βeta: My point was that the gear in the flake is almost certainly not going to hold. A steady head is all that is required to make this climb safe.
Mr Pink 2 9 May, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: HVS leaders will find this very easy. It's still an excellent route though, and is much easier than it looks. It's definitely not worth pissing around with micro-cams, if you think you may fall off then this probably isn't the route for you!
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βeta: HVS leaders will find this very easy. It's still an excellent route though, and is much easier than it looks. It's definitely not worth pissing around with micro-cams, if you think you may fall off then this probably isn't the route for you!
gwilym 29 Apr, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: I'm fairly certin you could protect the crux with a tricam in the far pocket to the left of the crux, I was soloing so I can't be sure
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βeta: I'm fairly certin you could protect the crux with a tricam in the far pocket to the left of the crux, I was soloing so I can't be sure
Si dH 19 Feb, 2005 Show βeta
βeta: Soloed this today, very nice. But has anyone tried to put any gear in? Looking at the flake it looked like it would take a half-decent zero 4 or so to protect the crux.
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βeta: Soloed this today, very nice. But has anyone tried to put any gear in? Looking at the flake it looked like it would take a half-decent zero 4 or so to protect the crux.
andybuckley 13 Dec, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: This wee beastie had me very psyched-out for a long time. In the end I warmed up by soloing everything around it (at least the non-crazy-hard ones) and then going for it. It felt easy, but so good :-)
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βeta: This wee beastie had me very psyched-out for a long time. In the end I warmed up by soloing everything around it (at least the non-crazy-hard ones) and then going for it. It felt easy, but so good :-)
Gripped 1 Nov, 2004 Show βeta
βeta: Heart ticklingly good!
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βeta: Heart ticklingly good!
Colin Scotchford 6 Oct, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: I led this about 12 years ago looking for my first VS lead, The Paul Nunn selected Peak guide told me it was VS; terrible thing this grade inflation
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βeta: I led this about 12 years ago looking for my first VS lead, The Paul Nunn selected Peak guide told me it was VS; terrible thing this grade inflation
Simon Caldwell 27 Aug, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: Nonsense, Technical Slab is now very well protected using Friends.
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βeta: Nonsense, Technical Slab is now very well protected using Friends.
leon 26 Aug, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: Technical Slab at the Roaches is just as unprotected till 30 or 40 foot and is HS 4b. Seemed more like an HS 4b to me -the feeling of exposure wasn't that great.
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βeta: Technical Slab at the Roaches is just as unprotected till 30 or 40 foot and is HS 4b. Seemed more like an HS 4b to me -the feeling of exposure wasn't that great.
Jon Greengrass 17 Jun, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: Effectively a solo but you might as well place some gear for the hardish moves up to the crack. Take some gear up so you can set up a belay up for less suicidal climbers.
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βeta: Effectively a solo but you might as well place some gear for the hardish moves up to the crack. Take some gear up so you can set up a belay up for less suicidal climbers.
r@bag 1 Jun, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: This is a really fun climb. However, the rain came down as I was climbing, luckily there was a tiny piece of friction left underneath the unprotected crack/flake thing at the top!!! I'd guess it's best tried when cool and dry.
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βeta: This is a really fun climb. However, the rain came down as I was climbing, luckily there was a tiny piece of friction left underneath the unprotected crack/flake thing at the top!!! I'd guess it's best tried when cool and dry.
Jus 19 Apr, 2003 Show βeta
βeta: quality route, nicely delicate
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βeta: quality route, nicely delicate
Robo 27 Aug, 2002 Show βeta
βeta: Easy really. Careful foot placement makes it feel secure. I wasn't worried at all, despite the runout.
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βeta: Easy really. Careful foot placement makes it feel secure. I wasn't worried at all, despite the runout.
london_huddy 15 Jun, 2002 Show βeta
βeta: The perfect friction slab. Not really worth putting a rope on for though. Belief in your shoes, trust of friction and a good calm head will get you through!
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βeta: The perfect friction slab. Not really worth putting a rope on for though. Belief in your shoes, trust of friction and a good calm head will get you through!

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Neb Buttress Direct

Grade: HVS 5a ***
(Bamford Edge)

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