Rockfax Description
A superb direct line improving on a few old attempts up this same bit of rock. Climb up then pull leftwards into a groove which is followed to the main break (rest). Continue direct up the upper groove to a lower-off below the break. © Rockfax

UKC Logbook Description
Originally a trad E5 6b with mixed gear, an extra 3 bolts and a lower off make this now a fully bolted route (as of 2011), to make a brilliant 7b Start direct, via a hard move to gain the break. The previous loose shield of rock at half height is now gone. A 10m 2nd pitch finishes to the top of the crag, but it is normal to lower/ab from the bolts just above the roof.

D. Lyon, D. Summerfield, P. Freeman. 1987 Much of the top section had been originally climbed 10yr earlier as part of Alternative Three including the alternative finish

Ticklists: North Wales Rock Graded List, North Wales Limestone Sport 7s.

Ed Booth 12/Sep/17 Lead O/S
Phil Davidson 26/Aug/17 TR rpt
with John Dunne
Tophe 20/Aug/17 Lead O/S
Phil Davidson 13/Aug/17 Lead
with Karl Smith, Daz Devey
FreddieSmith ?/Aug/17 Lead O/S
Luke Brooks 03/Oct/16 Lead
jonleighton 03/Oct/16 Lead β
Adam Booth 18/Sep/16 Lead RP

Well good. 1st RP. Nearly got the flash with awesome beta!

millsy 13/Aug/16 Lead RP

Awesome route - foothold broke denying the flash.

with Craig Smith
Rach_D ?/Aug/16 2nd dog
sev 22/Jul/16 Lead O/S
Hidden ??/2016 -
Dan724 13/Sep/15 Lead G/U

Second go. Fell off just before the last bolt on the first try; went for a tick-mark which didn't lead anywhere. Much easier second time round!

Luke Owens 30/Aug/15 Lead RP

Psyched to get this done in less than ideal conditions. Amazing line with so many good flowing moves!

Adam Lincoln 21/Aug/15 Lead RP

Ming on first go up. Easy on second go.

with Mick Lovatt
dan gibson 12/Aug/15 Lead β
with alice thompson
Dave Bond 11/Aug/15 Lead G/U
with Simon Wren
soph 09/Aug/15 Lead RP
with Tony Stone
Hidden 06/Aug/15 Lead RP
Dan77 21/Jul/15 TR dog
with Alex
Hidden 21/Jul/15 Lead RP
breed 11/Jul/15 Lead O/S

Clips in and well chalked/ticked. Great route.

Luke Owens 11/Jul/15 Lead dog

Not enough time for a proper go, should go next session. One of the best routes I've been on anywhere!

valecoastclimber 21/May/15 Lead rpt

Heckled from the seal below, showed him who's boss, sploosh!

dswansonlow 02/Sep/14 Lead RP
shed_hed 02/Sep/14 Lead rpt

Put the clips in for Dougie. Felt much easier when I knew what was coming!

shed_hed 01/Sep/14 Lead RP

The move off the floor was tricky and got very pumped. Made it to the fourth bolt before coming off. Got back on and got to the top clean. Worked the move I fell off and then got it clean first red point attempt. Felt really hard to try and onsight but once I knew what was coming it suited me as it's very sustained rather than bouldery. I took wires and could be used if really wanted but I didn't use them. Bolts are a bit more spaced further up but certainly not dangerous. 7b to onsight.

dswansonlow 01/Sep/14 Lead dog

Mega frustrating... 1st go - got to the low crux and hung, and then again at the top bulge. 2nd go - Climbed well but then on very last move I snagged my thumb through the draw as I threw up to the jug, got tangled and ended up just holding the draw. Grrrr. Hard route made harder because I can't use any of the holds in the crack at the top because of my banana fingers. It felt to me like a sustained and solid 7b.

Hidden 19/Aug/14 Lead β
LRob 19/Aug/14 Lead β
Glyn 26/Jun/14 Lead β
with James Taylor
Luke Brooks 16/Aug/12 Lead O/S
with Sophie
LRob ??/2012 Lead
gregoritos 10/Sep/11 Lead O/S


with Dougie Hall
Tom Livingstone 22/Aug/11 Lead dnf
Alex Mason 17/Aug/11 Lead β

Hard 7b imo. As hard as HS but more sustained, although initial crux move is probably harder than anything on HS. Tried a fortnight ago but dropped it at 3rd bolt after getting pumped on the slopers in bad conditions, G-up. Got really pumped in technical, top groove, got the top draw in, but had to push past it as was so pumped even on big jug.

JM 16/Aug/11 Lead β

Very good!

with Dave Pinnington
Ally Smith 09/Aug/11 Lead O/S

Bit stiff as a warm-up! Might be a soft 7b in it's new sport form?

with Pete H
edinbed 06/Aug/11 Lead O/S
Toby Dunn 31/Jul/11 Lead O/S
with Andy Cave
ksjs 20/Apr/11 Lead RP

Very good indeed! Felt as hard as H Sign and bit spooky in upper half, big section of rock at half height that is hollow and being on a wire didn't help. Weird that this is so different in character from H Sign yet only a few metres right. Definitely not E5, easily done at 7a+/7b without wires (though worth taking them). I struggled briefly with tufa during onsight and fell then had a few gos to get something workable to get established in the upper groove. Done next go, tired arms at the end :)

with pete
zero six ?/Apr/11 Lead RP
halfmanhalfbiscuit ?/Apr/11 Lead RP

Soft 7b and a good contrast to Hidden Sign.

Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
switch ??/2001 2nd β
ukb & bmc shark 18/Jul/92 Lead O/S
Mike Owen 13/Jun/92 Lead O/S
with Elaine Owen
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