A series of mini waterfalls, puntuated by walking. All short pitches (3 or 4m)with reasonable rock belays. Not sure if I've graded it right. One of the pitches is more like 10m. If all pitches are climbed direct the route is more like III, though all difficulties can be avoided at II.

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Peak Winter, Scrambles in the Dark Peak (winter)

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User Date Style Notes & Partners
Chris Manasseh 3 Feb Solo Only just in, but the main ice pitch was fine, and great fun.
Only just in, but the main ice pitch was fine, and great fun.
JHiley 3 Feb Lead Cold morning before the afternoon's thaw. We did all the pitches direct. Wasn’t sure about the first "big" step (about 5-6m) until I saw another team get good placements at the top. Harder than II/III. The second big (about 8m) step was protectable and easier.
with sdixon
Cold morning before the afternoon's thaw. We did all the pitches direct. Wasn’t sure about the first "big" step (about 5-6m) until I saw another team get good placements at the top. Harder than II/III. The second big (about 8m) step was protectable and easier.
with sdixon
yossarian714 3 Feb Lead β Enough ice on the main pitch to climb it without touching rock. Some of the other steps were thin, but we didn't need to get the rope out for them.
with Will Evans, groovejunkie
Enough ice on the main pitch to climb it without touching rock. Some of the other steps were thin, but we didn't need to get the rope out for them.
with Will Evans, groovejunkie
sdixon 3 Feb 2nd
with JHiley
with JHiley
Philip Gardiner 2 Feb Solo
Deezel65 2 Feb Solo rpt Thin and lots of running water, but all pitches just climbable without doing damage
Thin and lots of running water, but all pitches just climbable without doing damage
jim182 2 Feb 2nd
Zygi 2 Feb 2nd
with jim182
with jim182
mBob8 1 Feb Solo Worth a nosey but not very built up, and lots of water running.
Worth a nosey but not very built up, and lots of water running.
Shane69 31 Jan Solo
Mattypy282 30 Jan Solo β
cragtyke 20 Mar, 2018 Solo Fat ice but mostly soft.
Fat ice but mostly soft.
buxtoncoffeelover 20 Mar, 2018 Solo First icefall was incomplete so bypassed; second was badly decaying so climbed interesting narrow mixed corner to the left. The largest/last icefall had enough decent ice until the last 2 metres or so which required extremely delicate moves with very tenuous hooks - great fun!!
First icefall was incomplete so bypassed; second was badly decaying so climbed interesting narrow mixed corner to the left. The largest/last icefall had enough decent ice until the last 2 metres or so which required extremely delicate moves with very tenuous hooks - great fun!!
cragtyke 5 Mar, 2018 Solo Only the main pitch climbable
Only the main pitch climbable
Tony Ryland 3 Mar, 2018 -
Andrew Lodge 3 Mar, 2018 Solo
with Tony, steveshaking
with Tony, steveshaking
steveshaking 3 Mar, 2018 - Not the thickest I've seen it and only the main pitch in condition. Possibly not enough water flow.
Not the thickest I've seen it and only the main pitch in condition. Possibly not enough water flow.
Becks87 2 Mar, 2018 -
with Fawley1
with Fawley1
Hidden 1 Mar, 2018 Solo dnf
Hidden 25 Feb, 2018 Solo
Deezel65 25 Feb, 2018 Solo rpt Barely climbable on thin sketchy ice and hooks. Great turf in places.
Barely climbable on thin sketchy ice and hooks. Great turf in places.
cragtyke 25 Feb, 2018 Solo icy but not fully formed yet
icy but not fully formed yet
Hidden 11 Dec, 2017 -
DomClose 5 Feb, 2017 2nd O/S
troybison 8 Mar, 2016 Solo O/S Some good ice & lots of snow. Don't think ice on the big waterfall pitch was solid enough - did the corner on lhs above 1st waterfall as per 'Scrambles in the Dark Peak' route description.
Some good ice & lots of snow. Don't think ice on the big waterfall pitch was solid enough - did the corner on lhs above 1st waterfall as per 'Scrambles in the Dark Peak' route description.
cragtyke 7 Mar, 2016 Solo less than half formed, so did ice/turf variations. deep snow.
less than half formed, so did ice/turf variations. deep snow.
simonscubadiver 17 Jan, 2016 Solo Thin, but fun.
Thin, but fun.
roger whetton 9 Feb, 2015 - Almost all the climable ice has gone or is about to go. Nice day out though!
Almost all the climable ice has gone or is about to go. Nice day out though!
paul79 8 Feb, 2015 Solo O/S
andy wa 8 Feb, 2015 2nd
waiting for snow 8 Feb, 2015 Solo Starting to thaw quite badly, with running water visible. Most of the top outs have been hacked to bits; but plenty of ice left on the main fall.
Starting to thaw quite badly, with running water visible. Most of the top outs have been hacked to bits; but plenty of ice left on the main fall.
Hidden 6 Feb, 2015 Solo
sgl 5 Feb, 2015 Solo
with ben
with ben
HimTiggins 5 Feb, 2015 Solo O/S Good condition, excellent fun!
Good condition, excellent fun!
Hidden 5 Feb, 2015 Solo O/S
Deezel65 4 Feb, 2015 2nd O/S In good nick tonight.
In good nick tonight.
stratandrew 4 Feb, 2015 - Nightime ascent, excellent fun. Ice not in bad condition. can all be solo'd.....
Nightime ascent, excellent fun. Ice not in bad condition. can all be solo'd.....
Scott Anderson 4 Feb, 2015 Solo O/S Excellent fun, solo'd all! Big fall at the back was fantastic!
Excellent fun, solo'd all! Big fall at the back was fantastic!
RM199 4 Feb, 2015 Solo rpt Headtorch ascent
Headtorch ascent
cragtyke 4 Feb, 2015 Lead After work in the dark, good conditions but some crud. Great fun
After work in the dark, good conditions but some crud. Great fun
Stuart Hurworth 4 Feb, 2015 AltLd O/S Lots of ice but running with water underneath, dry gully below with weird and deadly plate ice waiting to trap your feet in the dry rocks underneath! Used an ice screw, found it harder in my G12's than when I did it in Terminators.
Lots of ice but running with water underneath, dry gully below with weird and deadly plate ice waiting to trap your feet in the dry rocks underneath! Used an ice screw, found it harder in my G12's than when I did it in Terminators.
lordyosch 3 Feb, 2015 2nd O/S Soloed all the small pitches, roped up for the big one. Night time ascent again, great fun
Soloed all the small pitches, roped up for the big one. Night time ascent again, great fun
stev1e.wilso 3 Feb, 2015 Lead rpt
steveshaking 1 Feb, 2015 - Main wall still forming, wet and brittle, went as a top rope following a soaking on the abseil.
Main wall still forming, wet and brittle, went as a top rope following a soaking on the abseil.
Tony Ryland 1 Feb, 2015 TR
with Steve Barby
with Steve Barby
Hidden ?Mar, 2014 Lead
steveshaking 7 Apr, 2013 Solo What a surprise at this point in the year. A bit thin, wet and crumbling, but very good non the less.
What a surprise at this point in the year. A bit thin, wet and crumbling, but very good non the less.
Andrew Lodge 7 Apr, 2013 Solo Terrific route to get done in early April, took the easy line up one of the pitches so probably no more than grade II on that route but still great fun.
Terrific route to get done in early April, took the easy line up one of the pitches so probably no more than grade II on that route but still great fun.
Stuart Hurworth 6 Apr, 2013 Solo O/S Lots of ice still there on the shaded lower and biggest falls, got my feet wet falling through the pools a couple of times though. Main pitch was steepest ice I've climbed yet!
Lots of ice still there on the shaded lower and biggest falls, got my feet wet falling through the pools a couple of times though. Main pitch was steepest ice I've climbed yet!
cragtyke 5 Apr, 2013 Solo Luke dealing with his demons after his fall last year. 6th time this season and great conditions, did main pitch twice
with Paul Addison, Lxaddison
Luke dealing with his demons after his fall last year. 6th time this season and great conditions, did main pitch twice
with Paul Addison, Lxaddison
Lxaddison 5 Apr, 2013 Solo O/S Nice to finish it after falling on it last year and stabbing my ice axe into my arm! Good condition.
with cragtyke, Paul Addison
Nice to finish it after falling on it last year and stabbing my ice axe into my arm! Good condition.
with cragtyke, Paul Addison
Kendrick 3 Apr, 2013 Lead
simonscubadiver 3 Apr, 2013 AltLd With Alex and Dave - mostly solo. Best ice i've ever seen on any of it. Bottom pitch with fat ice, second good, third good but a little thin at the top. Made life very easy.
With Alex and Dave - mostly solo. Best ice i've ever seen on any of it. Bottom pitch with fat ice, second good, third good but a little thin at the top. Made life very easy.
Julie 30 Mar, 2013 -
d80f0u 29 Mar, 2013 Solo
cragtyke 27 Mar, 2013 Solo very banked out
very banked out
Hidden 24 Mar, 2013 Solo O/S
cragtyke 14 Mar, 2013 Solo Done at dusk,very good condition made it easier and less scary than usual.
Done at dusk,very good condition made it easier and less scary than usual.
Tony Ryland ?Mar, 2013 Solo
Mr Messy ?Mar, 2013 Solo O/S
mattwomersley 24 Feb, 2013 Solo
mattwomersley 24 Feb, 2013 Solo
cragtyke 23 Feb, 2013 Solo good condition despite some running water behind ice, didn't do first step direct.
good condition despite some running water behind ice, didn't do first step direct.
febgaz 9 Feb, 2013 Solo
simonscubadiver 26 Jan, 2013 Lead rpt Lots of snow - the main fall was in quite good condition tho starting to thaw.
with Sandra Davidson
Lots of snow - the main fall was in quite good condition tho starting to thaw.
with Sandra Davidson
stev1e.wilso 24 Jan, 2013 Lead rpt Night ascent main fall ok but not so much lower down
Night ascent main fall ok but not so much lower down
lordyosch 24 Jan, 2013 2nd O/S First climb in years. First ever climb at night!
First climb in years. First ever climb at night!
cragtyke 20 Jan, 2013 Solo no ice on lower steps, main fall ok but a bit soft in places
with GaryM
no ice on lower steps, main fall ok but a bit soft in places
with GaryM
cragtyke 13 Dec, 2012 Solo Some ice not as much as hoped, mostly verglas so some of the steps very hard
Some ice not as much as hoped, mostly verglas so some of the steps very hard
doogstrue 12 Feb, 2012 Lead O/S Wasn't expecting any decent ice to be honest, thought we'd probably missed the boat with temps starting to rise but it was in good nick. Met a group coming up led by Matt womersley and stuck with them on the climbs which added to the experience i think. Cheers Matt and the guys.
Wasn't expecting any decent ice to be honest, thought we'd probably missed the boat with temps starting to rise but it was in good nick. Met a group coming up led by Matt womersley and stuck with them on the climbs which added to the experience i think. Cheers Matt and the guys.
mattwomersley 12 Feb, 2012 Solo
cragtyke 11 Feb, 2012 Solo very good conditions all steps climbable, plus small falls either side higher up.
very good conditions all steps climbable, plus small falls either side higher up.
steveshaking 11 Feb, 2012 Lead O/S Lovely series of falls in good condition, great morning. Wilderness gully gets more stars which is wrong. Wildboar has a succession of full ice pitches warming up to the main show, in condition it will take screws, no relience on mixed climbing as in Wilderness. Plus routes off the side higher up to finish off.
Lovely series of falls in good condition, great morning. Wilderness gully gets more stars which is wrong. Wildboar has a succession of full ice pitches warming up to the main show, in condition it will take screws, no relience on mixed climbing as in Wilderness. Plus routes off the side higher up to finish off.
Tony Ryland 11 Feb, 2012 2nd
John H Bull (tcfka Bullybones) 11 Feb, 2012 Solo Missed out pitch 1 - was occupied, providing an excellent excuse. Not really enough snow, but almost enough ice.
Missed out pitch 1 - was occupied, providing an excellent excuse. Not really enough snow, but almost enough ice.
ste_d 5 Feb, 2012 Solo rpt
Mike_d78 5 Feb, 2012 Solo rpt Reasonable ice, some water, starting to thaw perhaps. Step 1 & 3 good, step 2 thin.
Reasonable ice, some water, starting to thaw perhaps. Step 1 & 3 good, step 2 thin.
Kendrick 3 Feb, 2012 2nd Much fun! Nice walk in out when i went as it hadnt snowed yet :-)
Much fun! Nice walk in out when i went as it hadnt snowed yet :-)
simonscubadiver 3 Feb, 2012 Lead rpt
mattwomersley 3 Feb, 2012 Solo
mattwomersley 3 Feb, 2012 Solo
ste_d 2 Feb, 2012 Solo rpt
mattwomersley 23 Dec, 2010 Solo O/S
brownie0705 23 Dec, 2010 Solo O/S
Mike_d78 23 Dec, 2010 Solo
with ste_d
with ste_d
ste_d 23 Dec, 2010 Solo rpt
Hidden 21 Dec, 2010 Lead
Hidden 21 Dec, 2010 Solo O/S
doogstrue 20 Dec, 2010 Solo Night climb. Great climb, cheers steph!!
Night climb. Great climb, cheers steph!!
RM199 20 Dec, 2010 Solo O/S
Stephanelericolais 20 Dec, 2010 Solo O/S
with Paul Netherwood
with Paul Netherwood
CaverPete 9 Dec, 2010 2nd O/S Nice little trip with some ice newbies and Matt to do the dangerous bit. A couple of 3/4 metre ice sections and a few short icy steps.
with Matt Dalby
Nice little trip with some ice newbies and Matt to do the dangerous bit. A couple of 3/4 metre ice sections and a few short icy steps.
with Matt Dalby
smason 8 Dec, 2010 Lead O/S Good route, access from torside car park. Two climbing pitches of good water ice with walking inbetween. Ice was great and thick enough for screws. Warmed up in last few days though....
Good route, access from torside car park. Two climbing pitches of good water ice with walking inbetween. Ice was great and thick enough for screws. Warmed up in last few days though....
ste_d 7 Dec, 2010 Solo
Simon Caldwell 5 Dec, 2010 AltLd O/S Just two short pitches at the moment, everything else (assuming there is anything else!) is buried in powder. I led the first "pitch", about 4m of easy III. Carmen led the other, longer and easier. Cracking day though, cloud inversion and some deep powder wading across Bleaklow :-)
with Lemming
Just two short pitches at the moment, everything else (assuming there is anything else!) is buried in powder. I led the first "pitch", about 4m of easy III. Carmen led the other, longer and easier. Cracking day though, cloud inversion and some deep powder wading across Bleaklow :-)
with Lemming
cragtyke 5 Dec, 2010 Solo a bit too much powdery snow at the moment
a bit too much powdery snow at the moment
Somerset swede basher 4 Dec, 2010 Solo O/S
with Katharine, Jon Miles
with Katharine, Jon Miles
The Mountain Goat 4 Dec, 2010 Solo O/S
Oceanic ?Dec, 2010 Solo
mattwomersley ?Dec, 2010 Solo
Hidden 28 Nov, 2010 Solo
gethin_allen 21 Feb, 2010 -
cragtyke 2 Feb, 2010 Solo not fully formed so some diversions needed
not fully formed so some diversions needed
Hidden 23 Dec, 2009 Solo O/S
stev1e.wilso 23 Dec, 2009 Solo O/S
with Tom, bigbadbob12345
with Tom, bigbadbob12345
bigbadbob12345 23 Dec, 2009 Solo
JohnHutch 22 Dec, 2009 2nd Didn't wreck my knees this time: hooray!
with gordon g, L
Didn't wreck my knees this time: hooray!
with gordon g, L
JohnHutch 3 Mar, 2006 2nd Great fun - perfect introduction to front-pointing?
with L
Great fun - perfect introduction to front-pointing?
with L
Hidden ??, 2006 -
Iain Thow 22 Mar, 1987 Lead
with Ian Page, Rod Haynes
with Ian Page, Rod Haynes
Hidden ?Feb, 1986 Solo
Hidden ??, 1978 -
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