The scramble starts above Llech Ddu. Gain it by ascending into Cwmglas Bach then cutting back left along a ramp to arrive above the crag. From here simply follow the ridge up. Some obstacles can be avoided. The ridge soon merges with the summit slopes. Walk up these to reach the top of Carnedd Dafydd

Ticklists: Favourite Snowdonia Scrambles, Top ridge scrambles of Britain, Scrambles in Snowdonia - Steve Ashton, North Wales Scrambles - Garry Smith (New White Book), The Ridges of England, Wales and Ireland.

adaintree 25/Nov/17 Solo

Mild winter conditions

Hidden 22/Nov/17 Solo
dmorgan27 16/Nov/17 -

With Andrea Hamer. Cold and windy. Continued horseshoe to Yr Elen. Not sure this is worth three stars.

with Terryl
Tarquin 15/Nov/17 -
Tarquin 13/Nov/17 -
Chuck 04/Nov/17 -
dwc 04/Nov/17 Solo
mlennox 30/Sep/17 Solo
Dom Garman 30/Sep/17 Solo
with Martin
Rob_Morris1996 14/Sep/17 Solo O/S

From Ogwen Valley Bunkhouse, up and over the hill to the bottom of the route in nice weather. As soon as we reached the bottom of the route the cloud descended and rain began! Missed the main point of the route due to the weather, will have to return.

with Harry Blake
Hidden 06/Sep/17 Solo
Hidden 06/Sep/17 Solo O/S
mattguy ?/Sep/17 -
Hidden 27/Aug/17 Solo O/S
Hidden 27/Aug/17 Solo O/S
Hidden 25/Aug/17 -
Stuart Russell 08/Aug/17 Solo
Darrell Read 15/Jul/17 -
Climbingenthusiast 27/Jun/17 Solo O/S
Dan Baddeley 19/Jun/17 -
Hidden 18/Jun/17 -
dmowens44 09/May/17 Solo
Stuart Russell 29/Apr/17 Solo O/S

Lovely scramble - Shame I had to rush it given it was getting dark

maxsmith 14/Apr/17 Solo
Rowan321 08/Apr/17 2nd
with Manton
Manton 08/Apr/17 Lead
with Rowan
yelotango 25/Mar/17 Solo
Tarquin 12/Feb/17 -
with Louise
Louvet 12/Feb/17 -
with Tarquin
spenser 05/Feb/17 Solo O/S

Plenty of snow on the route, cracking day out!

with Liz Fowler
mph040272 03/Feb/17 Solo
with Alison Byrne 14/Jan/17 Solo O/S

Winter style ascent with walking axe and crampons

with David hall, Marty Wall
will484 07/Jan/17 Solo
Rachael88 07/Jan/17 Solo
with Adam
Hidden 07/Jan/17 Solo O/S
BStar 07/Jan/17 Solo O/S
with Matt & Holly, Mike Bennett, Will Bryant, Rachael, Jayne
Tarquin 04/Jan/17 -
with Rich Wells
Malt_Loaf ??/2017 -
afx22 ??/2017 -

About 2013

Lewis-Nield ??/2017 -

Superbly exposed spur scramble in a very atmospheric landscape! Quite committing!

Si ??/2017 -
tagscuderia ??/2017 Solo O/S
MattSutton8 06/Dec/16 -
charlie.wilkinson 27/Nov/16 Solo
with Lotte
Ian Stirrups 12/Nov/16 Solo rpt

A bit greasy, with some heavy rain at the top. Descended the ridge back to Gerlan

with Sue
stratandrew 23/Oct/16 Solo

Great location, lovely situations on the ridge. Easy but well away from the crowds and well worth a trip for the scenery. Very satisfying to finish almost direct on the summit.

with Dave Wylie, Geri Mihalkova
Harry Ellis 22/Oct/16 Solo

Ran in and out just over 2 hrs

GeekyNick 16/Oct/16 -
dwc 08/Oct/16 -
quarrtman1 08/Oct/16 Solo rpt
Hidden 02/Oct/16 Solo rpt
Hidden 18/Sep/16 Solo
tommylongfellow 18/Sep/16 Solo
with Matthew
Christoofar 11/Sep/16 -

Grassy. Nice walk in, and good horseshoe route.

Phil Anderson 10/Sep/16 -

With Gabi - Long half day before driving back

Gerry_Doncaster 14/Aug/16 Solo

Finally did this one after years of putting it off due to the long walk in and I have to say I was a bit disappointed. Quite scrappy to begin with but it certainly gets a lot better after the sloping slab if you take everything direct. Some nice moves and decent positions too. Overall though I wouldn't rate it as a classic especially considering the complete lack of continuations or link ups. One star only, I'd say.

PeteMc 13/Aug/16 Solo
with Doug McNamee
Nomes 23/Jul/16 -
with Darren
darrenpp 23/Jul/16 Solo
with Naomi
tom_lewis89 03/Jul/16 Solo

Did as part of Carnedd Dafydd, Carnedd Llewelyn and Yr Elen Route with girl friend (her first scramble). Great fun and not as hard to find as the guide/internet would make out. Only souls on the ridge on a sunny July Sunday.

with Maddy
2RoyalAnglian 11/Jun/16 Solo
yossarian714 04/Jun/16 Solo O/S
with Patrick Butlin, John Wright
Hidden 28/May/16 -
Hidden 15/Apr/16 Solo O/S
Storme 09/Apr/16 -
with Claire Jobanputra
alanblyth 26/Mar/16 Solo O/S
JendeHoxar 26/Mar/16 Solo O/S

In heavy rain and gale force wind - probably not the best way to enjoy the scramble but a definite satisfaction in feeling we cheated the weather.

with Alan
dpiddock 25/Mar/16 Solo O/S
David Walker 25/Mar/16 Solo rpt

Lovely day out, but wind was picking up as we reached the summit. Struggling to stand up on descent.

Hidden 25/Mar/16 Solo
rory 15/Feb/16 Solo O/S

Great day out. Ridge was in winter nick from the start. V windy and cold on top but sheltered on the route. Worth doing again!

with Joe Park
pauldrew 17/Jan/16 Solo

Winter Ascent - Grade I

with Jim Jones, Kevin Sales
GermanAlex 17/Jan/16 Solo

Fantastic fun, great atmosphere in the snow. The scrambling more than compensated for the approach, which was a singular bog (snow once in the Cwm).

with Jack
Dazluke2000 ??/2016 -
Mal Grey ??/2016 -
schoogles 28/Dec/15 Solo
Hidden 17/Dec/15 Solo
Louvet 03/Oct/15 -
with Tarquin
Tarquin 03/Oct/15 -
with Ross, Louise
Hidden 03/Oct/15 -
Hidden 19/Sep/15 Solo O/S
jimorothy 11/Sep/15 Solo

In descent. Marvellous.

Lordnorth 06/Sep/15 Solo O/S

Great setting & great rock; best grade 1 in Snowdonia. On/off drizzle. Big slab had epic feel to it. Holds on last step covered with lots of bird poo (inconsiderate). Has a bit of everything.

Hidden 28/Aug/15 -
Astilath 08/Aug/15 Solo

wonderfully isolated easy scrambling scattered with possibly the highest foxgloves in wales!

emlynroberts 08/Aug/15 Solo
Hidden 04/Aug/15 -
smoreda 31/Jul/15 -
Hidden 27/Jun/15 Solo O/S
crowberry gully 19/Jun/15 Solo
Hidden 13/Jun/15 -
TheaSmea 11/Jun/15 Solo
with James
Stopsy 11/Jun/15 Solo
with Thea
Louvet 09/Jun/15 Solo
with Julie
pauldrew 23/May/15 Solo
with Catriona Drew
tom jefferies 21/May/15 Solo
Hidden 17/May/15 Solo O/S
Tarquin 12/May/15 -
with Louise
Louvet 12/May/15 -
with Tarquin
Fallow 09/May/15 Solo O/S
with Trace
adam001 04/May/15 Solo O/S

Well recommended, good to take those new to scrambling out.

rw7399 27/Apr/15 Solo O/S
with Elanor Evans
LJJ77 21/Apr/15 Solo
tobyk 18/Apr/15 -
with sadie, Emma Akam, Karl Waterhouse
church465 14/Apr/15 Solo
Chrissy202 06/Apr/15 Solo O/S
with Tom U, Clare, Rosalie
TAG_UTLEY 06/Apr/15 -

Great day in superb conditions, just wish it was a little longer!

with Clare, Rosalie, Chrissy202
Hidden 01/Feb/15 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2015 -
gwynjones ??/2015 -
Hidden ??/2015 Solo
due 29/Dec/14 Solo
Tarquin 28/Dec/14 Solo


snowy_woodruff 06/Dec/14 -

nice day with 4inches of snow on the summit

with Mem
Hidden 24/Oct/14 Solo
LJC 20/Oct/14 Solo
Hidden 11/Oct/14 Solo
Hidden 17/Sep/14 -
Dan77 28/Aug/14 -
Glyn Davidson 28/Aug/14 Solo rpt
with Dan
Kingsjester 03/Aug/14 -
08nbrierley 28/Jul/14 Solo O/S
Hidden 28/Jul/14 -
Craigyboy13 25/Jul/14 -
Katherine Ross 25/Jun/14 Solo rpt

Really nice scramble. I got to walk on the slab this time - last time it had a covering of snow!

RuthW 14/Jun/14 Solo
Hidden 29/May/14 Solo
Hidden 17/May/14 -
Steve Kempley 04/May/14 -

Good spring scramble, dry and fun

John Eley 26/Apr/14 Solo O/S
maxsmith 17/Jan/14 Solo


Hidden 10/Jan/14 -
Duncan Beard 02/Jan/14 Solo


with Jon Clark, Dave Smith
h3l3n283 ?/Jan/14 Solo

wintery conditions but no winter kit in party so did not complete route

with Peter Rudkin, Hannah Strong
nj.harris ??/2014 -
Allanfairfechan ??/2014 Solo
static266 ??/2014 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2014 Solo
R_W_M ??/2014 -
Nick Biven ??/2014 -
Hidden ??/2014 -
s.tietz 29/Dec/13 -

very snowy - did not finish/turned around

Hidden 10/Dec/13 Solo O/S
Hidden 08/Dec/13 Solo O/S
gravity 08/Dec/13 -

We climbed this un-roped. Conditions were good, but the rock was greasy. As a result, we side-stepped the table top rock slab.

with Chris Colebrook
Hidden 05/Sep/13 -
ChrisH.19 24/Aug/13 -
useful 27/Jul/13 Solo rpt
with Craig W
Chris dyer 16/Jul/13 Solo O/S
with Tom Moores
GazEd83 09/Jul/13 Solo
with Sam Hallam, Gareth James
Hidden 06/Jul/13 -
ian2707 08/Jun/13 -
with Roz
CM1992 23/Apr/13 Solo
scottyp 13/Mar/13 Solo
useful 09/Mar/13 -

The weather was a lot warmer, humid and less windy than forecast. Good circuit, though!

with Tim
Katherine Ross 01/Feb/13 Solo O/S

Really nice scrambling but extra care required with a layer of fresh snow. Went round the slabby crux.

Glyn Davidson 13/Jan/13 Solo
mitch ??/2013 -
wykealpha ??/2013 -
Hidden ??/2013 -
lucyh 17/Nov/12 Solo

First Scramble

with Dave Beynon, Sharon Beynon, Neil McEwan, Greg Kimble, Sarah Flint, Abi Carpenter
danny269 07/Oct/12 Solo

quick 4 hrs 'up & back' - light winds, sunshine & good visibility until 10 mins after summiting when wind picked up and clouds lowered over tops for half an hour. Great scramble in BG scrambling shoes (slightly damp/slippy on grass & moss and start/finish areas were a tad boggy in places)

2RoyalAnglian 01/Sep/12 Solo

On mountain leader training. Walked in from Gerlan the day before and wild camped alongside Cwm Pen Llafar below Carnedd Dafydd. Great out of the way route with fantastic atmosphere and great views from the top!

Dan Lane ?/Sep/12 Solo O/S

On ML training

Neil Metcalfe101 ?/Sep/12 -
with Geoff Brieley
simoncov 18/Aug/12 Solo O/S

Beautiful setting, was pouring with rain when we set off, but cleared up as we were approaching the scramble and ended up really enjoying it. Surprisingly good rock and a clear sustained line considering what the surrounding crags look like and the Northerly aspect. Highly recommended.

with Etta
Etta 18/Aug/12 Solo O/S
Theeni 11/Aug/12 Solo O/S
with Jo
LittleJoRocks 11/Aug/12 Solo
with Theeni
tomdadom ?/Aug/12 Solo
Nordic 22/Jul/12 -
with Jodie Munks
Neil Metcalfe101 ?/Jul/12 -
Neil Metcalfe101 ?/Jul/12 -

Went up on my own in 25 mins.

Happy Haggis 30/Jun/12 -
Robbo1 30/Jun/12 Lead
Hidden 10/Jun/12 Solo
Hidden 04/Jun/12 Solo
Hidden 05/May/12 -
Hidden ?/May/12 -
Neil Metcalfe101 18/Mar/12 -
with Melanie, T, Andy Odger
malc 25/Feb/12 -
with Carl M, Martin Hewes, Nick
beardy mike ??/2012 -
Hidden ??/2012 -
kjb ??/2012 -
Satan ??/2012 Solo O/S

First ever scramble. Wet & windy, had to navigate off summit on compass alone. Great day out.

Hidden ??/2012 -
cymjt ??/2012 -
malc 31/Dec/11 Solo
with Paul Scott
Hidden 03/Dec/11 Solo O/S
Steve Woollard 12/Nov/11 Solo
with Keith Robson, Trevor Smith
Hidden 06/Nov/11 Solo
trivett 30/Oct/11 -

Very easy, quiet and pleasant

with Jools O'Neill
Luke Owens 22/Oct/11 Solo
Rich Kay 08/Oct/11 -
tubby Tez 08/Oct/11 Solo
Hidden 08/Oct/11 Solo rpt
Iron Face 01/Oct/11 Solo

Beatiful day, there was about twenty other people doing the same route and also about another 40 on the peak. I guess that is what happens in good weather.

Hidden 29/Sep/11 Solo O/S
thecurlyone 26/Sep/11 Solo O/S
zukator 15/Sep/11 Solo

Only saw one other person all day.

Mr Fuller 27/Aug/11 Solo O/S

Great. Would make a good practice route for short-roping. Take the line of greatest resistance!

Becky E 31/Jul/11 Solo O/S

Pleasant scrambling with plenty of interesting bits (all avoidable).

Graeme Hammond 31/Jul/11 Solo O/S
with Becky E
Hidden 25/Jun/11 Solo O/S
benny_m 04/Jun/11 Solo O/S
Hidden 04/Jun/11 -
Hidden 01/Jun/11 -
Oujmik ?/Jun/11 Solo

Fog cleared just in time to make an ascent worthwhile. Roped up and used a combination of moving together and quick spike/direct belays to reassure nervous partner and keep us safe. Loads of nice rock on the crest, with some great exposure and some technical challenges without ever being too serious.

Tom Hecht 31/May/11 Solo β
Kingsjester 28/May/11 -
Tom Livingstone ?/May/11 Solo
Cardus24 29/Apr/11 AltLd O/S

Beautiful place

pzkeeper 24/Apr/11 -
with Nicky, Paul S
Binder 16/Apr/11 Solo

Lovely scramble, Hubert's first. Rather grey day.

with Hubert
xusa 12/Apr/11 Solo
ron244 10/Apr/11 Solo
with Louise Wolfenden
jandyd05 01/Apr/11 Lead
emlynroberts 25/Mar/11 Solo

Sunny afternoon, nobody else about, so much better than work!

with alone
howlingbaboon ?/Mar/11 Solo O/S
Lawrence Eccles 27/Feb/11 Solo O/S
Hidden 24/Feb/11 Solo O/S
lost.arrow 02/Jan/11 -
markriddington ??/2011 -
franny ??/2011 -
Kamikaze Badger ??/2011 -
Paul1 ??/2011 -
tsjx ??/2011 -
ross duffield ??/2011 -
ross duffield ??/2011 -
Hidden ??/2011 -
Hidden 20/Nov/10 Solo O/S
daviesp2 23/Oct/10 -

With Scouts from Gerlan and over Pen-yr-ole-wen to Ogwen

Kate Edhouse 22/Oct/10 Solo

so very very windy and rained like hell.

with niccy noo
Hidden 22/Oct/10 -
Tom Hecht 10/Oct/10 -

After a run in from Gerlan, a descent off Dafydd for a fine fell running and scrambling afternoon out

Hidden 09/Oct/10 -
Hidden 21/Sep/10 -
FrankW 21/Aug/10 Solo O/S
with None
amthalmann 08/Aug/10 Solo
Hidden ?/Jul/10 -
Chrissie Baylis 30/May/10 -
Neil Watson 30/May/10 -

Made this one after a false start the day before. Was a bit windy so had to give Luckylegs a little confidence with a rope. Another good scramble. Did the Llewellyn, Yr Elen circuit back to Gerlan.

wolf.leeb 12/May/10 Solo O/S

lovely situations, short lived.

with andy
Hidden 02/May/10 Solo
mountainbagger 01/May/10 Solo

Nice approach. Good fun, some interesting sections. Bit damp, but sloping table had just enough friction to walk on! Saw absolutely nobody until summit of Carnedd Dafydd. Quality Grade 1 scramble, finished with tour of Carneddau and Yr Elen.

with Mrs Mountainbagger
mysterion 01/May/10 -
Lenny 25/Apr/10 Solo O/S
Hidden ?/Apr/10 -
Hidden ?/Apr/10 Solo
cas smerdon 20/Mar/10 Solo

With Red Rope

MaxR 20/Mar/10 Solo
Hidden 27/Feb/10 Solo rpt
Paul1 ?/Feb/10 -

Did this in winter conditions.

Hidden 26/Jan/10 Solo
PirateFrog ??/2010 -
marc1967 ??/2010 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2010 -
dpe 12/Dec/09 -

Icy patches, snow bank just below summit ridge

Hidden 12/Dec/09 Solo
vincentvega 06/Dec/09 -
with danny robb
David Walker 07/Nov/09 Solo O/S
with Richard Wilkinson, Maria
MariaT 07/Nov/09 Solo O/S
OWTomlinson 18/Oct/09 -
Dan_Staff 18/Oct/09 -
Hidden 12/Sep/09 Solo
ian2707 ?/Sep/09 Solo
asmith37 09/Aug/09 Solo
will5001 ?/Aug/09 -
Hidden 12/Jun/09 Solo
d80f0u 16/May/09 Solo

Continued with a traverse of the Carneddau in great conditions.

with Jo
Hidden 13/Apr/09 Solo O/S
adam clarke 05/Apr/09 -
with James Heptonstall, James Godfrey
Hidden 07/Feb/09 2nd O/S
mitch 07/Feb/09 Solo dnf

Winter conditions, deep powder so backed off early on. One to come back for.

Feeling bold 10/Jan/09 Solo

Enjoyable scramble and well worth a repeat visit, icey in places on the day. Gale blowing on top and ice axe came in handy, visited Dafydd and Llewelyn on way round and back.

with Neil, cheddar John, Q, Egons-Rich
birbeck 29/Dec/08 -
with Louise
Hidden 07/Dec/08 Solo O/S
Hidden 05/Nov/08 Solo
Hidden 04/Oct/08 Solo
Mike Peacock 26/Sep/08 -
with Si Oakley, Gareth Harvey
igneouscarl 24/Aug/08 Solo O/S

Climbed alone in the early morning rain and mist making it incredibly atmospheric.

Chris Manasseh 14/Aug/08 -
Hidden 24/May/08 Solo O/S
Hidden 06/Apr/08 Solo
adi bryant ?/Apr/08 -
with Mark, Lisa, Lee
Hidden ?/Mar/08 Solo
Hidden ?/Mar/08 Solo
Dan G 10/Feb/08 2nd O/S
with James Earp
fizzychewitt 09/Feb/08 -
with Joss
Hidden 09/Feb/08 Solo
sebrider ?/Feb/08 AltLd O/S

In full snow, No crampons, tied in with Thompson knot and tiny rack. Was nice

with Tim Kearsey
hepitt ??/2008 -
daviesp2 27/Oct/07 -

Took scouts up from Bethesda, down to Ogwen Cottage

Hidden 22/Oct/07 Solo O/S
Hidden ?/Jun/07 Solo O/S
JulianD 06/May/07 Solo
with Ann
The Ivanator ?/Apr/07 Solo rpt
with Renchi
Aaron Lines ??/2007 -
Hidden 22/Oct/06 -
Phil Jennings 05/Jun/06 Solo O/S
with Pete Jennings
The Ivanator ?/May/06 Solo O/S
with Tess, Rob
lost.arrow 21/Jan/06 -
Mike Caine ??/2006 -
with Dave Nugent
Hidden ??/2006 Solo
Mike Peacock 18/Oct/05 -
with Si Oakley
Adderbury Climber 06/Aug/05 Lead O/S
Mike Peacock 17/May/05 -
with Si Oakley
Hidden 02/Apr/05 -
Adderbury Climber ?/Apr/05 Lead O/S
rambler_gary ??/2005 -
Zoomer 18/Oct/04 Solo

Lots of cloud and wet, got 'navagationaly' challenge going home.

Hidden 14/May/04 -
bms 14/Feb/04 Solo
with BCS
TRNovice 12/Jul/03 Solo O/S
with Jenn
Jenn 12/Jul/03 Solo O/S


crossdressingrodney 26/Jul/02 -
crossdressingrodney 02/Jul/01 Solo O/S
with Hill and Mountain Walking
victim of mathematics 02/Jul/01 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/2001 Solo
sgl0jd ??/2000 -
Jacob Ram 26/May/97 -
Jacob Ram 07/Apr/97 Solo
Jacob Ram 07/Apr/97 Solo
ColinD ??/1997 -
lost.arrow 16/Nov/96 -
mike fenwick ?/Apr/95 Lead
with Nik Barnes, Lucy
Hidden ??/1994 Solo
Hidden 01/Jun/93 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/1991 Solo O/S
Hidden ??/1990 Solo
Hidden ??/1990 -
Hidden ??/1986 Solo
Iain Thow 05/Dec/82 Solo
with Mark ("Radar"), Andy Sutton, Ian Burwood
nigehughes ?/Nov/82 Solo
with Ian Maguire
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