20m, 2 pitches. Start at the bottom of Wasdale Crack.
1.) 16m, traverse delicately right until a pull around onto the arete can be made. Climb the arete to the shoulder.
2.) 4m, pitch 2 of the Wasdale Crack.

WH Fowler Sep/1894

Hidden 02/Sep/17 Lead
Chelsey Robinson 31/Jul/17 Lead O/S
ned_85 08/Jul/17 Lead
Tom McCabe 05/Jul/17 AltLd O/S

Clare led the Arete, I did P2 of Obverse route. Down climbed the easier Wasdale Crack side of the summit block, ab'ed from the shoulder.

8PetrieC 05/Jul/17 AltLd
SamStrong93 ?/Jul/17 2nd O/S
Hidden 18/Jun/17 AltLd
Hidden 04/Jun/17 Lead
Hidden 03/Jun/17 2nd
mournesmtneer 31/May/17 Lead
Hidden 31/May/17 Lead O/S
Pevans 31/May/17 Lead

Alt lead, I did first pitch, Conor the top block. Before coming down from the shoulder I then lead the top block the obverse way, traversing out to the right.

Hidden 29/Apr/17 AltLd O/S
CHarrison 22/Oct/16 2nd

Seconded P1 and lead the MVS pitch onto the needle

with FelixL
FelixL 22/Oct/16 2nd

Just P1

with Robin S, CHarrison
Craig Hiscock 02/Oct/16 AltLd
static266 02/Oct/16 AltLd O/S
with Craig
Roger Cruse 21/Sep/16 AltLd O/S
with Kris
Chloe Wilson 07/Sep/16 2nd O/S
with joeflan
joeflan 07/Sep/16 Lead O/S
with Chloe
Hidden 01/Sep/16 2nd O/S
andrewmc 01/Sep/16 Lead O/S
Liam Ingram 06/Aug/16 Lead O/S

Karen's first trad route!

klcmunro 06/Aug/16 2nd
paulh.0776 05/Aug/16 2nd
with Paddy
galyer895 27/Jul/16 2nd O/S
with Mike Norbury
Hidden 27/Jul/16 Lead
Tony Jones 27/Jul/16 2nd
with Pete
clams ?/Jul/16 Lead

From the start of Wasdale Crack went r up a short crack to the arete - not sure what route this was - Slingsby's Var? Abbed off tat which is a right mess of two knotted ropes and a knotted cord

Hidden 13/May/16 Lead
Allanfairfechan ??/2016 AltLd
with Neil Metcalfe
Mark Eddy 18/Aug/15 Lead

Very good indeed. And not as polished as I had expected. Can highly recommend.

with Kate
Hidden 18/Aug/15 2nd
Hugh Simons 15/Aug/15 Solo O/S
with Sarah
Bradbury 08/Aug/15 Lead O/S
with Ben Littley
David_Gledson 29/Jun/15 Solo O/S

Not too bad as a solo, just be very careful!!

Hidden 15/Jun/15 AltLd O/S
Calum Wadsworth 08/Jun/15 AltLd O/S

Top pitch, polished as hell and a bugger to get back down again, first pitch was nice mind. Got the tick now though, and there was a decent view!

with Ruairidh Wadsworth
Hidden ?/Jun/15 AltLd O/S
G Weatherley ?/Jun/15 2nd β
with Richard Ive
Hidden 30/May/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/May/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 26/May/15 2nd
Becks87 23/May/15 2nd O/S
atom 23/May/15 Lead

A very worthwhile route of a super classic landmark. This route is a lot less polished than the Wasdale Crack start to the shoulder. Used a left foot mantle to get onto the top block to much relief. Extremely polished and nothing that great for protection on the very top. Was told about a small crack about a foot below the back edge from the climb that takes a 0.5 cam and used a sling round a slight notch on the top to set up belay. Hairy getting down after lowering my second. Didn't fancy the methods mentioned in the various guides. Used a combination of abseil from the slight notch and down climbing. Hate to say it for national heritage reasons but maybe a bolt and chain in the top would be a good idea here. Abseiled from the knotted ropes and rusty maillons back off the shoulder (Not recommended)

thejackle ?/May/15 Lead
thejackle ?/May/15 Lead
Scott Quinn 18/Apr/15 Lead O/S
with dad
Hidden 09/Apr/15 Lead O/S
Hidden 09/Apr/15 2nd β
Pigpen 07/Apr/15 AltLd
with Loch
steely 21/Mar/15 2nd
with luke armitage
s1362083 19/Nov/14 AltLd
Hidden 16/Nov/14 2nd O/S
Tobias Barthelmes 16/Nov/14 2nd
Hidden 16/Nov/14 Lead
Tobias Barthelmes 16/Oct/14 2nd O/S
with Pete and Davina
ben_armstrong ?/Sep/14 2nd O/S
with Fraser Scott
robertmichaellovell 12/Jul/14 Lead
with Bex
Steve954 20/Jun/14 2nd β

Fantastic, third time lucky (1st only just started climbing, 2nd wet)

vinspin 10/Jun/14 AltLd O/S

Great route 7 hours from car and back in bad conditions well Worth it though!

with kaz, carl
gingerbex 25/May/14 2nd O/S
alastairbegley 25/May/14 Lead O/S

Fun route, with a great position on top, surprisingly there was no one else around on a bank holiday!

David Qualtrough 25/May/14 2nd
Hidden 17/May/14 Lead O/S
tskelhon ??/2014 Lead O/S
clmacdonald ??/2014 2nd
joe hallam 30/Sep/13 AltLd O/S
joermann 30/Sep/13 AltLd
thomaspomfrett 04/Sep/13 AltLd O/S


with Joe Callaghan
stevo smith 26/Aug/13 Lead O/S

Led the top section (4m Mantelshelf) after doing the Arete. Then backdown to climb Lingmell & The Crowley Route.

with Rob hall patch
Bex_M 25/Aug/13 AltLd O/S
with Claire Ellwood
redshapedfriday 07/Aug/13 Lead
with tom anderson
mrginna 08/Jul/13 AltLd O/S

1st pitch

with Ben Hiles
darlolad 05/Jul/13 AltLd O/S
mcglenr25 09/Jun/13 AltLd O/S


JohnBear 09/Jun/13 AltLd


with Gus, Ryan
peter.ravenscroft27 30/Apr/13 AltLd
with Jack Godwin
Simonpeel 03/Mar/13 2nd O/S
Steve Lenartowicz 05/Nov/12 Lead
with Clare
Derek Robinson 11/Aug/12 2nd O/S
Mark Collins 11/Aug/12 Lead O/S

with Delboy
Goose4 14/Jul/12 Lead O/S
steve-grigg 21/Jun/12 Lead O/S
Pinky 12/Jun/12 Lead O/S

Lead Wasdale crack, Alec lead The arete first and left gear for me to clip into. Keep your face in and push like hell on that left leg then its all over. Absolutely fantastic.... Jackot!

with alec thomas, chris thomas
nickcj 27/May/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 18/Apr/12 Lead
Will Gordon 15/Apr/12 Lead O/S
Hidden 15/Apr/12 2nd
Richard Alderton 28/Mar/12 AltLd

Liam rope-soloed to the shoulder, then me to the top.

with Liam
Dervey 28/Mar/12 AltLd
with Rich
Ian Hinkins 26/Mar/12 Lead
Hidden 24/Mar/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden 12/Feb/12 AltLd O/S
Hidden ??/2012 -
Brannock 15/Oct/11 AltLd O/S

With German Alex, as he said we left the guide book behind, 1st pitch went up the crack on the oppostie of the Needle to the really polished crack (Wasdale crack?), second pitch from spike belay worthy of Stoney. Not sure about the grade would have thought S4a more appropriate, even with the down climb, though alex thought HS 4b.

GermanAlex 15/Oct/11 AltLd

not entirely sure which route we did, forgot the guidebook and didn't fancy the dark, polished "standard" route. just made our way up past a massive flake offering a bit of chimney-esque climbing, easy but slightly bold

Peter Holder 13/Oct/11 Lead O/S
with Ryan Wilson
TimKnight 29/Aug/11 Lead dnf

Led to shoulder but then waited 30 mins for the rain to clear; by the time Owen and then Jen had 2nd'd pitch 1 was too cold to continue. Good situation and historic but not a great climb

with Owen Daniel, Jen Shutt
Rog Wilko 23/Jul/11 Lead

One star for the climbing; two stars for the history; three stars for getting safely back to the shoulder.

with Debbie Wilkinson
iwebster59017 04/Jul/11 AltLd O/S
Kirsty810202 04/Jul/11 AltLd O/S
Hidden 04/Jul/11 2nd O/S
Hidden 03/Jul/11 2nd
Hidden 03/Jul/11 2nd
pffft 03/Jul/11 Lead O/S

Don't know what people are complaining about. Seen much worse polish else where. Lovely route.

with Jojo Mills, Naomi Havercroft
Dynamo Digby 30/Jun/11 -

Slightly damp, bl**dy cold, but awesome climb!!

with Rob Brown
Pohil 04/Jun/11 Lead
Hidden 03/Jun/11 2nd O/S
Spanner 18/May/11 2nd
with Josh Crabtree
sam coward 01/May/11 Lead O/S
with Helen
Hidden 30/Apr/11 AltLd
Graeme Hammond 30/Apr/11 AltLd O/S

Preferred this way up needle to The Wasdale Crack, much better positions and climbing, led first pitch. Brilliant view this time from the summit.

djmarko75 ?/Apr/11 Lead O/S

Awesome. Why has this only got 1 star on here? defo worth ***

y2keable 27/Mar/11 AltLd O/S
tom heaney ?/Mar/11 AltLd O/S
jon clayton 25/Sep/10 Lead
Hidden 15/Aug/10 -
Keendan 01/Aug/10 Lead O/S

Most amazing experience, in the rain and above a 400m cloud base Very grateful to the kind soul who placed a mallion + cord on the shoulder!

Ianwesterby 01/Aug/10 Lead O/S
Hidden 18/Jun/10 Lead O/S
andy jennings 02/May/10 AltLd O/S
with Floris
TiffTiff 02/May/10 AltLd O/S

'Led' P2

with Sophie, Heather
Sophie Nunn 02/May/10 Lead O/S
jackse ?/Apr/10 Lead
RCrockford 17/Oct/09 AltLd O/S

Lead second pitch, polished but positive moves. Summit was wacky but awesome.

with Jonah
Neil Metcalfe101 13/Sep/09 AltLd

Allan lead 1st pitch & I lead 2nd pitch. Really polished and tricky to get up. No finese, used knees but got there. have to wrap rope round over hang and tie on to it for belay, weird!

with Allan Mac
auld al ?/Sep/09 Lead O/S
matt_ringrose 02/Aug/09 AltLd
with Ed Causton
Hidden ?/Aug/09 Lead
RagingSphere 20/Jul/09 Lead O/S
Becky E 02/Jun/09 2nd O/S
thomasadixon 02/May/09 AltLd O/S

Lead second pitch. Nice climbing on 1st pitch second pitch polished and not nice at all! Worth the summit though.

with Becca
BeccaSnowden 02/May/09 AltLd O/S
with Tom
buddha1369 19/Apr/09 AltLd O/S
with Simon B (OB)
iliff 19/Mar/09 2nd O/S

wasent worth th walkin huge dissapointment

Hidden 25/Jul/08 AltLd
Hidden 14/Jun/08 AltLd O/S
tomparrott 07/Jun/08 Lead O/S
jimbobimbo ?/Jun/08 AltLd O/S
Christopher Williamson 25/May/08 -
with Matt Sleightholme
Harry Ellis ?/Feb/08 -
with Ben Monypenny
RM199 ??/2008 -
Lawrie Brand 30/Sep/07 Lead O/S
wilchivs 20/Jun/07 AltLd O/S
Mark Walter 20/Jun/07 AltLd O/S
innesmac ?/Apr/07 -
Hidden ??/2007 -
Bargate_Champ ??/2007 Lead O/S
Rawstron1 16/Jun/06 2nd

My 1st ever trad route.

with Tim
Hidden ?/May/06 -
Hidden ??/2006 Lead
Hidden 30/Apr/05 Lead
Hidden ?/Aug/04 Lead
peteetheridge ??/2003 2nd O/S
with Tom Weston
Hidden 22/Aug/99 Lead O/S
Simon Caldwell ?/Jul/99 AltLd O/S
with Mike
andyfeds ?/Oct/98 Lead
with Andy C
BenTiffin ?/Jul/98 Lead
Phil West 25/May/96 AltLd O/S

I led top pitch. Mist came in very thick. Got some eerie photos.

with David Atherton
Hidden 12/Jun/94 -
gallonj ??/1992 -
John Southworth ?/Apr/90 AltLd O/S
stewart murray ??/1990 Lead O/S
Iain Thow 03/Oct/87 Lead
with Phil Moorey
ColinMeech ??/1980 -
Steve Crowe ??/1974 2nd O/S

With Derwent Hill staff

Paul Clarke ??/1971 AltLd
with FMC
Hidden 01/Aug/69 AltLd O/S
Martin Bennett 15/May/65 -
with CJE
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