Mike Barry 1980.
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colin struthers | 16 Oct, 2024 |
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βeta: A few points worth adding here 1. the source of record for climbing, and specifically for notifying first ascents in Ireland is a website called climbing.ie There have been notes about climbs at Ceann Sibeal on this website for at least 5 years. they detail much shorter routes on adjoining sections of the crag. There is absolutely no reference to any previous ascent of the main ridge. This was obviously the first place we looked when trying to establish if our climb was a first ascent. 2. We also spoke with a local climber and canoeist who lives within sight of Ceann Sibeal and who gave us permission to use his photo of the crag in our write up. He was not aware of any previous ascent. Indeed, it was his website which, several years ago, noted the challenge of the main ridge as an unclimbed line and which intially gave us the impetus to give it a try 3. We spoke a local farmer on whose land we think the crag is located. She was not aware of the ridge having been climbed. 4. the ascent in question is a major climb on an outstanding feature of the Irish Coast. One might reasonably have expected to find some record of a previous ascent and we thought it very unlikely that a climb of such stature could have gone unrecorded. 5. Since the coverage of this matter I have had a perfectly friendly exchange with Mike who informed me that he did log his ascent with Mountaineering Ireland but that for some reason this information never made it onto any contemporary websites or publications. I think Mike accepts that our assumption that we had climbed a new route was consistent with the information available to us and that our record of a first ascent was made in good faith. Mike has asked me to adjust our write up of the climb and I am happy to do so. We have agreed to leave my detailed description of the line of the climb online as this will be useful to others who may do the route in the future 6. It is a pity that the Irish Independent didn't include any of this context in their report. But then a story about a 'row', albeit a non existent one, probably makes better copy. In actual fact Mike has suggested we get together for 'a pint of plain' when I next return to climb in Ireland and I am happy to accept his invitation Mike has asked that the name of the climb be recorded as Dromlach Ceann Sibeal and that the first ascent details be adjusted. As I'm not the crag moderator I don't think I can do this but I am happy to see the information corrected | βeta? | |
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βeta: A few points worth adding here 1. the source of record for climbing, and specifically for notifying first ascents in Ireland is a website called climbing.ie There have been notes about climbs at Ceann Sibeal on this website for at least 5 years. they detail much shorter routes on adjoining sections of the crag. There is absolutely no reference to any previous ascent of the main ridge. This was obviously the first place we looked when trying to establish if our climb was a first ascent. 2. We also spoke with a local climber and canoeist who lives within sight of Ceann Sibeal and who gave us permission to use his photo of the crag in our write up. He was not aware of any previous ascent. Indeed, it was his website which, several years ago, noted the challenge of the main ridge as an unclimbed line and which intially gave us the impetus to give it a try 3. We spoke a local farmer on whose land we think the crag is located. She was not aware of the ridge having been climbed. 4. the ascent in question is a major climb on an outstanding feature of the Irish Coast. One might reasonably have expected to find some record of a previous ascent and we thought it very unlikely that a climb of such stature could have gone unrecorded. 5. Since the coverage of this matter I have had a perfectly friendly exchange with Mike who informed me that he did log his ascent with Mountaineering Ireland but that for some reason this information never made it onto any contemporary websites or publications. I think Mike accepts that our assumption that we had climbed a new route was consistent with the information available to us and that our record of a first ascent was made in good faith. Mike has asked me to adjust our write up of the climb and I am happy to do so. We have agreed to leave my detailed description of the line of the climb online as this will be useful to others who may do the route in the future 6. It is a pity that the Irish Independent didn't include any of this context in their report. But then a story about a 'row', albeit a non existent one, probably makes better copy. In actual fact Mike has suggested we get together for 'a pint of plain' when I next return to climb in Ireland and I am happy to accept his invitation Mike has asked that the name of the climb be recorded as Dromlach Ceann Sibeal and that the first ascent details be adjusted. As I'm not the crag moderator I don't think I can do this but I am happy to see the information corrected |
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Tom G | 15 Oct, 2024 |
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βeta: The first ascent claim is contested: Renowned Irish climber Mike Barry claims to have climbed this in the ‘80s. https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/sunday-indep It should be noted that the claim was made in good faith, as records are scarce. | βeta? | |
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βeta: The first ascent claim is contested: Renowned Irish climber Mike Barry claims to have climbed this in the ‘80s. https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/sunday-indep It should be noted that the claim was made in good faith, as records are scarce. |
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Only a Crag | 14 Oct, 2024 |
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βeta: This first ascent claim is heavily contested https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-climbers-puzzled-as-english-pair-claim-to-be-first-to-ascend-dramatic-ridge-route-on-kerrys-ceann-sibeal/a98926733.html | βeta? | |
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βeta: This first ascent claim is heavily contested https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-climbers-puzzled-as-english-pair-claim-to-be-first-to-ascend-dramatic-ridge-route-on-kerrys-ceann-sibeal/a98926733.html |
There are no ascents logged for this climb.
Grade: E1 5b ***
(The Black Cliff)