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Javelin Buttress* VS 4c

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Climb the groove that splits the buttress and a scoop to a thread. Layback and mantel onto the upper slab and wander up this, easing all the time. © ROCKFAX

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This climb is in 230 logbooks, and on 19 wishlists.

Hidden - Lead O/S - 04/Apr/14

Hidden - Lead O/S - 30/Mar/14

dnichols - 2nd O/S - 30/Mar/14 with Alex Conway

Max19 - 2nd - Oct/13 with Ben Terrell, Felix Terrell

m675bowsl - AltLd O/S - 27/Sep/13 with Dave Murphy

mia mock student
rich432 - 2nd O/S - 28/Aug/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 27/Aug/13

Great climbing on great rock. Very good gear and I nice crux sequence with gear below u and great gear above. ***s
luke glaister - 2nd O/S - 25/Aug/13 with andrew(willy)wilson

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 25/Aug/13

BradleyWhite - 2nd - 10/Aug/13

morgan91 - Lead - 10/Aug/13

bob johnson - 2nd O/S - 07/Aug/13 with Rich Ball

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 28/Jul/13

Superb route, deserves 3 stars, well protected and technical.
Zoomer - Lead O/S - 27/Jul/13 with Julia Bloomer

Hidden - Lead - 27/Jul/13

anthonydouglas - 2nd - 26/Jul/13 with Craig Letham

Hidden - Lead - 26/Jul/13

Leonhamnett - AltLd - 19/Jul/13 with Andy Allen

Fred_Richard - Lead - 14/Jul/13 with Pete

Helen Gibson - Lead - 14/Jul/13

Helen Gibson - Lead - 14/Jul/13 with Max

NickJH - Lead rpt - 07/Jul/13 with LiamG

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/Jul/13

This is a 3 star pitch IMO, after the v groove we climbed direct up the thin crack (instead of going left to the thread) occasionaly using thin flakes to the side, which was quite commiting, high in the VS grade and worth 5a. The rock and climbing is impecable. Part of a larger enchainment of tennis shoe, Javelin Buttress, Groove Above and Central Arete.
CurlyStevo - Lead - Jul/13 with Rob

really good route climbed direct up the thin crack definitely 5a this way.
robbraby - 2nd - Jul/13 with Steveo

Hidden - Lead O/S - 06/Jun/13

hellsbells - 03/Jun/13 with stuart holmes

attempted blade but came of route onto pretty tough slab too early
Max19 - Lead - Jun/13

Hidden - 2nd - 19/May/13

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 06/May/13

Nice clean climbing, less polished than the main wall
ipegg - Lead O/S - 06/May/13 with Gavin Philips

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 06/May/13

Sam Melville - 2013

tim20 - 2013

tim20 - 2013

fifth - 2013 with Dave

Hidden - Lead - 2013

Hidden - 2013

Committing crux!
howlingbaboon - AltLd O/S - 08/Sep/12 with Scott

Dom Cordner - 2nd O/S - 06/Sep/12

bleakned - 2nd - 06/Sep/12 with Steve

Steve Wakeford - 2nd - 06/Sep/12

matthias13 - Lead - 23/Aug/12 with Broomy

Broom136 - 2nd - 23/Aug/12 with rich matthias

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Aug/12

Excellent route, 1 star in the new guideboook is rather stingy.
Simon Caldwell - 2nd O/S - 22/Jul/12 with Carmen

Hidden - Lead O/S - 22/Jul/12

Hidden - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/12

SarahA - 2nd - 29/May/12

lcullum7 - Lead O/S - 29/May/12 with Sarah Acheson

kristinawe - 2nd - 28/May/12

willoates - Solo O/S - 28/May/12

Rich God 3 - Lead - 28/May/12 with Stu

Hidden - Lead O/S - 27/Apr/12

agolay - 2nd O/S - 15/Mar/12 with Bin Smedley, Heather Vernon

alan moore - 2012

Sam Melville - 2012

Hidden - 2012

Hidden - 2012

fifth - 2012

Almost dry! Nice pitch
jezb1 - AltLd - 14/Oct/11

Dan77 - Lead O/S - 25/Sep/11 with Glyn Davidson

Chris Manasseh - Lead - 15/Sep/11 with Nick Manasseh

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 13/Sep/11

ZA - AltLd - 31/Aug/11 with smcw

Beautiful rock, atmospheric climbing, easy in the grade. Too good to miss. Best climb of the day.
lizzyb - 2nd O/S - 15/Aug/11 with Emily Ward

Hidden - Lead - 15/Aug/11

smcw - Solo - Aug/11 with zoe anderson

LukeyG - Lead - Aug/11 with C-nunez

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 26/Jul/11

good moves, good gear.
benkelsey - Lead O/S - 26/Jul/11 with Remus Knowles

andysroom - Lead O/S - 12/Jul/11 with Lizzie

five - Lead O/S - 11/Jul/11 with AV

Hidden - 2nd - 03/Jul/11

Fantastic!
kitkat78 - Lead O/S - 02/Jul/11 with SteveM

SteveM - 2nd - 02/Jul/11 with Kat

Too windy for Javalin Blade
Conan - Lead - 30/Apr/11 with Clare A

ceaddiso - 2nd - 30/Apr/11 with Conan

shaun walby - 2nd O/S - 24/Apr/11 with Ian Holtby, Martin Haworth

Hidden - 21/Apr/11

psychomansam - AltLd - 20/Apr/11

Hidden - AltLd O/S - 20/Apr/11

mynyddresident - Lead rpt - 18/Apr/11 with callum next door

More difficult than I remembered it.
Chris M Thomas - Lead - 19/Mar/11 with Maurisio

Crux move was great fun! Layback ahoy!
Private Flounder - 2nd - 2011 with chris manasseh

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

Hidden - 2011

PAJames - 2011

PAJames - 2011

bsmedz - 2011

bold for vs
nathan foster - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/10

In the wet. Crux was sopping. Careful use of dry flakes/crimps out right!
PeteH - AltLd O/S - 11/Sep/10 with Noel Peatfield

Bold for VS!
Dizz - Lead O/S - 30/Aug/10

Harri777 - 2nd - Aug/10 with Liz

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 03/Jul/10

MarekM - Lead - Jul/10

becksta500 - Lead O/S - 26/Jun/10 with Alex Smith

asmith37 - 2nd O/S - 26/Jun/10 with Bex Leigh

Alasdair88 - Lead O/S - 20/Jun/10 with Claire

Alistair Corbett - Lead O/S - 19/Jun/10 with john corbett

Hidden - Lead O/S - 17/Jun/10

wilchivs - 2nd O/S - 17/Jun/10 with Tim Ashlin

cmsg - Lead - 10/Jun/10 with Llewelyn Thomas

RCrockford - AltLd O/S - 05/Jun/10 with Jonah, Andy C

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 22/May/10

Hidden - Lead O/S - 18/May/10

Dux - 2nd O/S - 18/May/10 with Andy Smith

Hidden - Lead O/S - 14/Apr/10

bwestwood - 2nd O/S - 2010

Laurence Everitt - Lead O/S - 17/Oct/09 with Elise Beke

Hidden - 2nd - Sep/09

igneouscarl - 2nd - 25/Aug/09 with Tom Stahl

couple of moves at top felt more than 4c.
RachaelB - 2nd - 22/Aug/09 with Duncan Graham-Rowe

Hidden - 2nd - 11/Aug/09

SGD - Lead - 08/Aug/09 with Tom WMC

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 08/Aug/09

Karlos - Lead O/S - 02/Aug/09 with Mark B, Anna LW

a decent add on to hope. rain stopped and it had dryed out for this
jubolo - 2nd O/S - 11/Jul/09 with mark

Dan 85 - Lead O/S - 25/Jun/09 with Pete & Josh

Little AndyH - Lead O/S - 13/Jun/09

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 23/May/09

donkster - Lead O/S - 23/May/09 with DaveNW

dan gibson - Solo O/S - 20/Apr/09

Hidden - AltLd - 11/Apr/09

Hjort - Lead O/S - 05/Apr/09 with Serinde Van Wijk

Sardien - 2nd β - 05/Apr/09 with Toby Vye

Hidden - Lead - 2009

MarkFoster - 2009

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 21/Sep/08

net - 2nd - 21/Sep/08 with Neil & Tanya

Neil Pacey - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/08

Climbed as 3 with Annette. Lovely corner, then very steep wall - tricky move, which I did as layback turning into wobbly mantelshelf move
Tanya Savage - 2nd - 21/Sep/08 with Neil Pacey

Hidden - Lead O/S - 21/Sep/08

edpd1b - 2nd - 14/Sep/08 with Kelly Hillyer

Great line, awkward belay stance shared with the top of "Hope"
Richard Gilbert - 2nd O/S - 14/Sep/08 with Jerry Ostrowski

crag_monster - AltLd - Sep/08 with murphydave

Excellent- a suprise VS for Jools!
Twisty - 2nd O/S - 30/Aug/08 with Rayan & Jools

Hidden - 2nd - 30/Aug/08

very nice
gb83 - Lead O/S - 15/Aug/08 with masa

masa-alpin - 2nd β - 15/Aug/08 with Graeme B

Hidden - 2nd - 02/Aug/08

Hidden - 2nd - 27/Jul/08

lovely climbing!
SamStokes - Lead O/S - 24/Jul/08 with Ed Webb

webbe01 - 2nd O/S - 24/Jul/08 with Sam Stokes

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 22/Jul/08

Hidden - Lead - 22/Jul/08

sgl0jd - 2nd - 07/Jun/08 with Steve Hobbs

Hidden - 07/Jun/08

chris sm - 2nd - 06/Jun/08 with Pippa Froggatt

The Bad Cough - 2nd O/S - Jun/08 with Lee Bonner

peter myers - 2nd - May/08 with Simon Bennet

Hidden - 2nd - Apr/08

Hidden - 2nd O/S - 2008

Matt Vigg - Solo - 2008

daveagriff - Lead - 2008

Hidden - 2008

Jamie B - Lead - Sep/07 with Jo George and Kat Barisova

I lead the first pitch
Ben Sidsaph - Lead - 09/Jun/07 with Andy Beverly

Hidden - Lead - 05/Jun/07

kleinej - Lead dog - 05/May/07 with Patrick

paddygoodwin - 2nd - 05/May/07 with Jason

the juicy dangler - Lead O/S - 20/Apr/07 with carlene hill

Carly - 2nd - 20/Apr/07 with Richard

Sean Kelly - 2007

Hidden - 2007

Strange little creature - 2nd - 14/Oct/06 with Scott Cramp

cat22 - 2nd O/S - Aug/06 with Mike

JohnHutch - Lead O/S - 30/May/06 with SC

mikelaing - 2006

Adam Booth - AltLd O/S - 16/Oct/05 with Ed Booth

Ed Booth - AltLd - 16/Oct/05 with Adam Booth

nice tricky route finding found it well hard 4 vs
Alex Mason - Lead - Jul/05 with Steve Ramsden

John Kettle - Lead - 2005

Al 'Mase the ace' Mason accused me of sending him up the nearby E1. Yeah right, 'crack on kid!'
Ram MkiV - AltLd O/S - 2005 with Alex Mason

Hidden - 2nd - Aug/04

Hidden - AltLd O/S - Jun/04

chris wyatt - Lead - 15/May/04 with Dave clode

malc - AltLd O/S - 13/Apr/04 with ??

Hidden - Lead - Oct/03

Gman - Lead O/S - Aug/03 with Dave

Hammy - AltLd - 07/Jun/03 with Iain Gallagher

Hidden - Lead - Oct/02

Ann S - 2nd - Sep/02 with Bill Harrison

Hidden - 2nd - Aug/02

Ian Archer - 2nd - 01/Jun/02 with Alan Segar

michael burrows - Lead O/S - 12/May/02 with dave meeson

akhughes - AltLd - Apr/02 with Emma Hughes

The Pylon King - Lead O/S - Jul/01 with Mr Lickerish

Scotsken - Jul/01

A long time ago
simonwaters5 - 2nd - 2000 with Bill Pilling

zero six - Lead O/S - 2000

RobSimmo - 2nd O/S - 17/Aug/98 with Jon Berry

kato'sdad - Lead - 17/Aug/98 with Rob Simpson

kato'sdad - Lead - 17/Aug/98 with Rob Simpson

Hidden - Lead - 1998

Jamie B - 2nd - Sep/97 with Ian Smith

big - 02/Aug/97

Le Chevalier Mal Fet - Lead - 05/Jul/97 with Richard Bower

Pete Nugent - AltLd - 03/May/97 with Simon Harry

BenTiffin - 2nd - 08/Mar/97 with Andy Bissell

Hidden - Lead - 15/Sep/95

Hidden - Lead - 06/Jul/95

Ched - Lead O/S - 1995 with Glanfor

JiveWeasel - Lead - 17/Jun/94 with Rich C

Tenko - AltLd O/S - 18/Jun/93 with Kev Wilson

Ian Robertson - 2nd - 1993 with Steve Hinde

goi.ashmore - Lead O/S - 26/Oct/91 with Ian Hosley

ChrisJD - 2nd - Jul/91

Hidden - Lead - 1990

Hidden - Lead - 27/Mar/89

Hidden - AltLd - 05/Nov/88

Iain Thow - Lead - 13/May/88 with Steve Ball

babymoac - 01/Aug/87 with Rich Reeder

AlanLittle - Lead - Jul/87 with Carl Blakeley

Mark Kemball - Lead - 04/Jul/85 with Chris May

nigehughes - 2nd - Aug/84 with Ian Cameron

Nigel Bond - AltLd - 09/May/82 with Rodger Edenborough

Nigel Coe - 27/Mar/82 with Frank Farrell

Paula Hamilton-Gibson - 2nd - 1982 with Andy Heald

Nigel Coe - Lead - 28/Oct/78 with Andy Monument

Hammy - AltLd - 26/Aug/78 with Jonathon Stacey

Mark Kemball - Lead - 29/Apr/78

Bolt Phobia - 2nd - 04/Jun/77

Mark Kemball - 2nd - 05/Jun/76 with Mark Pearce

mikej - AltLd - 07/Sep/75 with Mike Byles

Hidden - AltLd - 22/Aug/73

Hidden - Lead - Aug/73

John Stenhouse - AltLd - Sep/72 with John Offord

rogerskews - AltLd - 1970 with Martin Coward

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Voting
Total votes cast 126
hard HVS0 of 44
HVS0 of 44
easy HVS1 of 44
hard VS7 of 44
VS27 of 44
easy VS7 of 44
hard HS2 of 44
HS0 of 44
easy HS0 of 44
hard 5a0 of 42
5a0 of 42
easy 5a1 of 42
hard 4c7 of 42
4c27 of 42
easy 4c5 of 42
hard 4b2 of 42
4b0 of 42
easy 4b0 of 42
3 Stars9 of 40
2 Stars27 of 40
1 Star4 of 40
0 Stars0 of 40
Bag of .....0 of 40
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Style of ascent

Soloed4 of 230 (1.7%)
Lead88 of 230 (38.3%)
Followed80 of 230 (34.8%)
Alt Leads30 of 230 (13.0%)
Unknown28 of 230 (12.2%)

'Climbed'137 of 230 (59.6%)
clean O/S88 of 230 (38.3%)
clean β2 of 230 (0.9%)
clean rpt2 of 230 (0.9%)
dogged1 of 230 (0.4%)