In reply to gethin_allen:
> So you're advocating courtesy from all road users, so I'll ask again, why shouldn't the van driver show courtesy to the cyclists by hanging back for a second and then passing with plenty of space?
He should but didn't. Equally, it doesn't sound like the cyclists in this instance were courteous either.
>...yet you are defending the actions of the driver by trying to legitimise their actions
Where have I tried to legitimise the action of the driver ?
>No matter what anyone is doing in the road it is the responsibility of the driver to avoid them, give them the correct amount of space and not break the law.
Yes, obviously
>You can not select which laws you want to abide by based on how much you are irritated by someone or something. If it were a person in a invalid carriage then it would be different but because it's a cyclist it's fair game because we're seen as some form or lower being, despite the fact that most cyclists are probably also driver.
Now you are off on one. This rant bears no relation to anything I've written
>And if it were a motorcyclist the driver would avoid them because they have a tough reputation.Your argument is bullsh1t and you know it is so don't bother.
Err you really are extrapolating wildly from what I wrote. Most motorcyclists (those that are still alive) know the value of riding according to the dangers around them irrespective of the law. You don't assert your right of way by deliberately riding into the side of a care which has misjudged pulling out of a side road, do you ?
Anyway its nearly lunch time and I'm off for a hopefully incident free spin on my bike.