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Naughty question: who was the other candidate?

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 Moacs 28 Dec 2023

BMC said they had two great but very different candidates as the final pair...and made their choice.

It would be wonderful if the other person 'fessed up.  Or even a thumbnail sketch.  It'd really throw light on the current priorities.

Also, I'm slightly concerned we might have "done a Milliband"

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 wbo2 28 Dec 2023
In reply to Moacs:you think they post on here? ( to fest up?, and join in panto time) 

Or the BMC should name them and explain the reasons?

Does that look at all remotely reasonable?

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 FactorXXX 28 Dec 2023
In reply to Moacs:

I am Spartacus.

 Michael Hood 28 Dec 2023
In reply to Moacs:

Hardly right to name someone who may have given no indication to their current employer that they are considering other jobs. I suspect this would be covered by GDPR, even if not I reckon an organisation could leave itself open to legal damages if such were incurred as a result of their disclosure.

The interest is in how the 2 strong candidates were different and what qualities were favoured over other qualities - very difficult to anonymise.

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 Will Hunt 28 Dec 2023
In reply to Moacs:

I for one will accept nothing less than the resurrected corpse of Ken Wilson.

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 beardy mike 28 Dec 2023
In reply to Will Hunt:

Don't like the sound of that. A resurrected Ken Wilson maybe, but resurrecting his corpse sounds like a zombie apocalypse with ground zero at the BMC.

 FactorXXX 29 Dec 2023
In reply to beardy mike:

> Don't like the sound of that. A resurrected Ken Wilson maybe, but resurrecting his corpse sounds like a zombie apocalypse with ground zero at the BMC.

Would that be a 'Ground Up Ascent' then? 

 Lankyman 29 Dec 2023
In reply to Moacs:

I think it was The Donald. It's going to be the only job he's allowed to apply for soon.

 CantClimbTom 29 Dec 2023
In reply to Lankyman:

What has he ever done on grit? Or an I not allowed to ask due to his "heel spurs"

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 profitofdoom 29 Dec 2023
In reply to CantClimbTom:

> .....Or an I not allowed to ask due to his "heel spurs"

It is well known (as you imply) that Trump got a draft exemption for heel spurs. Trump also said he didn't like John McCain (spelling?) because he was imprisoned in North Vietnam (his plane was shot down on a military mission). Words fail me 

 flaneur 29 Dec 2023
In reply to Moacs:

> BMC said they had two great but very different candidates as the final pair...

I'm guessing she was a climber.

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 ianstevens 29 Dec 2023
In reply to wbo2:

> you think they post on here? ( to fest up?, and join in panto time) 

God I hope it was the resident top BMC-whiner

> Or the BMC should name them and explain the reasons?

> Does that look at all remotely reasonable?

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 Steve Woollard 30 Dec 2023
In reply to Moacs:

I think the key question is was the other strong candidate a climber?

 Dave Cundy 30 Dec 2023
In reply to FactorXXX:

"I'm Brian and so's my wife.."

In reply to Steve Woollard:

> I think the key question is was the other strong candidate a climber?

I’m not convinced that it is. I’ve had awful CEOs and senior managers who are specialists and experts in the relevant field, and I’ve had fantastic ones who aren’t but are passionate, skilled in their job, know when to delegate/go to others for specialist knowledge and advice, and are sincerely motivated to understand and develop the organisation they are working in. 

One of the best directors I’ve worked with in healthcare came from a freight haulage background and had no previous healthcare experience! I’ve had more than a few who are awful and seemed to have got the job because of their clinical experience and expertise rather than having the necessary skills to be a good director.

A climber as CEO might be more relatable/superficially instill more confidence, but I’m not sure they are necessarily more effective. I think a main interest in another sport that has similar issues to contend with is fine if they are good at being a CEO, know the limitation of their knowledge, and listen to others who have more climbing/mountaineering experience. 

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 Steve Woollard 30 Dec 2023
In reply to Stuart Williams:

> I’m not convinced that it is. I’ve had awful CEOs and senior managers who are specialists and experts in the relevant field, and I’ve had fantastic ones who aren’t but are passionate, skilled in their job, know when to delegate/go to others for specialist knowledge and advice, and are sincerely motivated to understand and develop the organisation they are working in. 

> One of the best directors I’ve worked with in healthcare came from a freight haulage background and had no previous healthcare experience! I’ve had more than a few who are awful and seemed to have got the job because of their clinical experience and expertise rather than having the necessary skills to be a good director.

> A climber as CEO might be more relatable/superficially instill more confidence, but I’m not sure they are necessarily more effective. I think a main interest in another sport that has similar issues to contend with is fine if they are good at being a CEO, know the limitation of their knowledge, and listen to others who have more climbing/mountaineering experience. 

I fully agree with you on this and while I really hope that Paul is successful for the BMC's sake I am concerned he's been appointed because of his expertise in elite competition and UK Sport which should be the job of the Head of Competitions and the finance team, and that what the BMC needs right now is someone who has the respect of all members and can start to rebuild trust.


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