In reply to springfall2008:
> I can understand that, but he does sound misguided - I haven't heard of other landowners being liable for climbing accidents.
No, nor me - the fear of litigation gets exaggerated, and there's probably a dose of paranoia at work. He just doesn't know, not 100%, and getting it to the 100% stage is a can of worms he'd rather not open. I can see why someone might think that way. Of course, it's very frustrating for us climbers; sport in the LWV is a limited resource, and there's lot's of good stuff at TQ.
I wonder whether talking to the landowner is still on the BMC agenda, or if they've simply given up in the face of his intransigence. I suppose there comes a point after which there's nothing gained by repeating the same overtures.