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Ich möchte mein Deutsches sprachen üben. Immersion ist die richtige Weise zu gehen. Also, ihre Empfehlungen bitte!
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Gehen zie zu Deutschland?
Gehen zie zu Deutschland?
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Off the top of my head - Run Lola Run, Das Boot and Der Untergang (Downfall) are good, Der Schuh des Manitu for something a bit different.
Off the top of my head - Run Lola Run, Das Boot and Der Untergang (Downfall) are good, Der Schuh des Manitu for something a bit different.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Here are some which I have seen:
Comedy:
Nach fünf im Urwald
Lola rennt
Wer früher stirbt, ist länger tot
Im Juli
Goodbye Lenin
Drama:
Solino
Sophie Scholl: die letzten Tage
And another which I would like to see:
Der Baader Meinhof Komplex
If you watch all of these, you may end up with the impression that at least one of Moritz Bleibtreu, Franka Potente and Daniel Brühl appears in every modern German film.
Here are some which I have seen:
Comedy:
Nach fünf im Urwald
Lola rennt
Wer früher stirbt, ist länger tot
Im Juli
Goodbye Lenin
Drama:
Solino
Sophie Scholl: die letzten Tage
And another which I would like to see:
Der Baader Meinhof Komplex
If you watch all of these, you may end up with the impression that at least one of Moritz Bleibtreu, Franka Potente and Daniel Brühl appears in every modern German film.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Google Leni Riefenstahl.
In particular,
Der heilige Berg
Die weisse Holle vom Piz Palu
Sturme uber dem Mont Blanc
Cheers, JW
Google Leni Riefenstahl.
In particular,
Der heilige Berg
Die weisse Holle vom Piz Palu
Sturme uber dem Mont Blanc
Cheers, JW
In reply to nightmonkeyuk:
Fahren Sie nach Deutschland vielleicht?
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> Gehen zie zu Deutschland?
> Gehen zie zu Deutschland?
Fahren Sie nach Deutschland vielleicht?
In reply to Tim Chappell: Lumpi ist mein hund.
Longman audio visual german. BEEEP.
Hans! Hans! Mein bein ist gebrochen! BEEEP.
Longman audio visual german. BEEEP.
Hans! Hans! Mein bein ist gebrochen! BEEEP.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
I would suggest:
Das Boot (long, but classic)
Downfall,
Sophie Scholl,
The lives of others
Baader Meinhof complex
Even Inglourius Basterds (or however they write it) is good, if you watch the version as it was released in the UK, the German is accurate and very well played. Even something like "the longest day" has a good amount of German in it.
If you're going to try to immerse yourself to learn, and do it by watching German films, then might I suggest putting the subtitles on too (in German). If you put them on in English, you'll just read the subtitles, but having them in German is good, because it helps you identify the words and reproduce them correctly, and can also help when something is mumbled, or shouted, or muffled etc.
Enjoy!
Tim
I would suggest:
Das Boot (long, but classic)
Downfall,
Sophie Scholl,
The lives of others
Baader Meinhof complex
Even Inglourius Basterds (or however they write it) is good, if you watch the version as it was released in the UK, the German is accurate and very well played. Even something like "the longest day" has a good amount of German in it.
If you're going to try to immerse yourself to learn, and do it by watching German films, then might I suggest putting the subtitles on too (in German). If you put them on in English, you'll just read the subtitles, but having them in German is good, because it helps you identify the words and reproduce them correctly, and can also help when something is mumbled, or shouted, or muffled etc.
Enjoy!
Tim
In reply to alex_th:
To be fair, that's not exactly a bad thing!!!!!!
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> you may end up with the impression that ...Franka Potente appears in every modern German film.
> you may end up with the impression that ...Franka Potente appears in every modern German film.
To be fair, that's not exactly a bad thing!!!!!!
In reply to Tim Chappell:
How about Nordwand without the subtitles? I really enjoyed it, and it's about climbing too!
How about Nordwand without the subtitles? I really enjoyed it, and it's about climbing too!
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Of those mentioned so far, 'Downfall' is my favourite - an excellent film. Das Boot is also good but the German is a bit harder to follow.
I recently came across this site which seems a very good way to learn, although you do have to pay a subscription to access the videos:
http://german.yabla.com/
Mark
Of those mentioned so far, 'Downfall' is my favourite - an excellent film. Das Boot is also good but the German is a bit harder to follow.
I recently came across this site which seems a very good way to learn, although you do have to pay a subscription to access the videos:
http://german.yabla.com/
Mark
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Various Herzog dramas (Aguirre der Zorn Gottes, The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser etc)
Vier Minuten
Die Falscher
Various Herzog dramas (Aguirre der Zorn Gottes, The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser etc)
Vier Minuten
Die Falscher
In reply to John Ww:
Mephisto is good. Because it is a stage story the German is pretty good to understand, unlike Das Boot, which is mostly muttered dialect!
Mephisto is good. Because it is a stage story the German is pretty good to understand, unlike Das Boot, which is mostly muttered dialect!
In reply to pog100:
Ooh yes Mephisto!
Good point about muttered dialect too. I am only recommending "German language films I've enjoyed with subtitles", did I miss the point of the OP (my German is weak-to-non-existent)?
All ist klar.
I bet Der Himmel Uber Berlin is also mumbled?
Ooh yes Mephisto!
Good point about muttered dialect too. I am only recommending "German language films I've enjoyed with subtitles", did I miss the point of the OP (my German is weak-to-non-existent)?
All ist klar.
I bet Der Himmel Uber Berlin is also mumbled?
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Oh, and just in case you've got a spare 53 hours, try "Heimat" - that should be a suitable immersion period (actually, more likely to be submersion rather than immersion).
Just as a suggestion, I find a better technique is to read books in German, rather than watch films - don't try to understand or translate every word, just "get the gist", and you'll soon find that you forget you're reading something in a foreign language, while getting an excellent feel for sentence structure. It's particularly effective if you're reading something you're actually interested in - my latest reads have been Ines Papert's "Im Eis", Heinrich Harrer's "Die Weisse Spinne", and the classic nativity play comedy "Hilfe - die Herdmanns kommen!" (it's actually very funny!).
HTH, JW
Oh, and just in case you've got a spare 53 hours, try "Heimat" - that should be a suitable immersion period (actually, more likely to be submersion rather than immersion).
Just as a suggestion, I find a better technique is to read books in German, rather than watch films - don't try to understand or translate every word, just "get the gist", and you'll soon find that you forget you're reading something in a foreign language, while getting an excellent feel for sentence structure. It's particularly effective if you're reading something you're actually interested in - my latest reads have been Ines Papert's "Im Eis", Heinrich Harrer's "Die Weisse Spinne", and the classic nativity play comedy "Hilfe - die Herdmanns kommen!" (it's actually very funny!).
HTH, JW
In reply to Blue Straggler:
vier minuten
saw that on soem late night BBC showing not too far back, yes worth a watch
As for the thread great! some shed load of potentialy good films mentioned on here , all gettign 7+ or more on IMDB
roll on Feb when i can torrent the lot of em
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yeah watched that on your tip on soem earlier post and it was very goodvier minuten
saw that on soem late night BBC showing not too far back, yes worth a watch
As for the thread great! some shed load of potentialy good films mentioned on here , all gettign 7+ or more on IMDB
roll on Feb when i can torrent the lot of em
In reply to John Ww:
Yes, Heimat takes a lot of watching! However, I found the dialect really difficult to understand.
Alex
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> Oh, and just in case you've got a spare 53 hours, try "Heimat"
> Oh, and just in case you've got a spare 53 hours, try "Heimat"
Yes, Heimat takes a lot of watching! However, I found the dialect really difficult to understand.
Alex
In reply to John Ww:
>> you may end up with the impression that ...Franka Potente appears in every modern German film.
"Empfehlen Sir mir bitte einen deutschen Film", btw.
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>> (In reply to Tim Chappell)>> you may end up with the impression that ...Franka Potente appears in every modern German film.
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> To be fair, that's not exactly a bad thing!!!!!!
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Unfortunately however, it's actually Moritz Bleibtreu who appears in every modern German film.> To be fair, that's not exactly a bad thing!!!!!!
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"Empfehlen Sir mir bitte einen deutschen Film", btw.
In reply to Kipper:
Yes, definitely "mir"!
I liked Nordwand a lot, although the high German accents of the supposedly working class Bavarian protagonists annoyed me. But for learning the language that'll be a bonus.
Yes, definitely "mir"!
I liked Nordwand a lot, although the high German accents of the supposedly working class Bavarian protagonists annoyed me. But for learning the language that'll be a bonus.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
How about a dose of German TV comedy? Seek out a chap called Loriot, who's actually genuinely funny (from an anglicised German perspective, anyway...), gently and wittily taking the p*** out of traditional German pomposity and officiousness, a bit like a polite "Little Deutschland". He also speaks nice and slow and pronounces everything very precisely.
How about a dose of German TV comedy? Seek out a chap called Loriot, who's actually genuinely funny (from an anglicised German perspective, anyway...), gently and wittily taking the p*** out of traditional German pomposity and officiousness, a bit like a polite "Little Deutschland". He also speaks nice and slow and pronounces everything very precisely.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
I forgot, there's "Nanga Parbat", too. Not a particularly brilliant film, but it is about mountaineering, so might hold the interest a bit longer!
There is a bit of dialect in there, though.
Tim
I forgot, there's "Nanga Parbat", too. Not a particularly brilliant film, but it is about mountaineering, so might hold the interest a bit longer!
There is a bit of dialect in there, though.
Tim
In reply to Tim Chappell: "The White Ribbon" - about village life in Northern Germany about 100 years ago - very dark and disturbing.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Tut mir sehr leid, aber ......"helfen", like "empfehlen", will always take the dative, so definitely "mir". Oh, and "hilfet" is an interesting stab at the past tense of helfen.
Just so that you don't get too hung up about getting things exactly right, I once showed my native German girlfriend an extended piece I'd written, and of which I was quite proud. She read it without a flicker, and then announced that while it was undoubtedly written in German, there wasn't one single sentence in it that would actually be written by a native speaker! Consequently she now possesses an almost flawless command of English expletives and Anglo-Saxon abuse thanks to my careful tuition.
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> Danke dass ihr mich hilfet!
Tut mir sehr leid, aber ......"helfen", like "empfehlen", will always take the dative, so definitely "mir". Oh, and "hilfet" is an interesting stab at the past tense of helfen.
Just so that you don't get too hung up about getting things exactly right, I once showed my native German girlfriend an extended piece I'd written, and of which I was quite proud. She read it without a flicker, and then announced that while it was undoubtedly written in German, there wasn't one single sentence in it that would actually be written by a native speaker! Consequently she now possesses an almost flawless command of English expletives and Anglo-Saxon abuse thanks to my careful tuition.
In reply to SomerKate:
Agreed - actually worth watching.
The one I don't get is the German obsession with "Diner for one" - it's an absolute tradition in Germany, and is shown on pretty much every channel at Christmas (think the German equivalent of Great Escape, Sound of Music, James Bond etc). It features Freddy Frinton as the butler....well, you'll just have to watch it. The Germans roll about laughing, while I put my head in my hands and groan.
While we're on the subject, the DVD of "The Sound of Music" has subtitles in almost every language except......yep, German - I wonder why that is?
p.s. if you like "The Sound of Music" type films, watch "Sissi" - it does have the advantage of the not-unattractive Romi Schneider as the lead character!
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> Seek out a chap called Loriot
Agreed - actually worth watching.
The one I don't get is the German obsession with "Diner for one" - it's an absolute tradition in Germany, and is shown on pretty much every channel at Christmas (think the German equivalent of Great Escape, Sound of Music, James Bond etc). It features Freddy Frinton as the butler....well, you'll just have to watch it. The Germans roll about laughing, while I put my head in my hands and groan.
While we're on the subject, the DVD of "The Sound of Music" has subtitles in almost every language except......yep, German - I wonder why that is?
p.s. if you like "The Sound of Music" type films, watch "Sissi" - it does have the advantage of the not-unattractive Romi Schneider as the lead character!
In reply to John Ww:
Bah.
Actually I don't mind at all; thanks for the correction.
The big thing with speaking languages is just to get on and SPEAK. I try to do it right, of course. But more important than that, I try to do it.
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Bah.
Actually I don't mind at all; thanks for the correction.
The big thing with speaking languages is just to get on and SPEAK. I try to do it right, of course. But more important than that, I try to do it.
In reply to Tim Chappell: Several german TV channels on Free to Air satellite on 19E.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Ich spreche Deutsch gern aber ich schreibe es sehr seltern weil mein Grammatik usw so schlect ist.
It will probably default to English text/videos/audio but if you select the language option for German at Deutsche Welle http://www.dw-world.de/ there is a HUGE (1000+) selection of videos (not films though) in German.
Ich spreche Deutsch gern aber ich schreibe es sehr seltern weil mein Grammatik usw so schlect ist.
It will probably default to English text/videos/audio but if you select the language option for German at Deutsche Welle http://www.dw-world.de/ there is a HUGE (1000+) selection of videos (not films though) in German.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Exactly! I doubt I've ever uttered a completely grammatically correct German sentence since my A level oral exam (and probably not even then), and to be honest, I'd still rather listen than speak. As you say, the best way to learn is to just get stuck in and have a go - no matter wie peinlich!
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> The big thing with speaking languages is just to get on and SPEAK. I try to do it right, of course. But more important than that, I try to do it.
> The big thing with speaking languages is just to get on and SPEAK. I try to do it right, of course. But more important than that, I try to do it.
Exactly! I doubt I've ever uttered a completely grammatically correct German sentence since my A level oral exam (and probably not even then), and to be honest, I'd still rather listen than speak. As you say, the best way to learn is to just get stuck in and have a go - no matter wie peinlich!
In reply to handjammer:
i thought that was a great film, yes disturbing in parts
> (In reply to Tim Chappell) "The White Ribbon" - about village life in Northern Germany about 100 years ago - very dark and disturbing.
i thought that was a great film, yes disturbing in parts
In reply to alex_th:
watched this last night, great story and totaly awsome performance by leading lady
fab tip thanks
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watched this last night, great story and totaly awsome performance by leading lady
fab tip thanks
In reply to Daithi O Murachu:
Yes, we've got that one. I don't want to see it again; not because it isn't a good film, but because it is.
Yes, we've got that one. I don't want to see it again; not because it isn't a good film, but because it is.
In reply to alex_th:
Another one I'd forgotten:
Nowhere In Africa
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0161860/
Alex
Another one I'd forgotten:
Nowhere In Africa
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0161860/
Alex
In reply to elsewhere:
yeah watched that tonight on yout tip, very good
and wow that girl is sexy
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> The Edukators (aka Die fetten Jahre sind vorbei)
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> The Edukators (aka Die fetten Jahre sind vorbei)
yeah watched that tonight on yout tip, very good
and wow that girl is sexy
In reply to Tim Chappell: Der beste Deutsche film, den ich kenne ist: "Aguirre der Zorn Gottes" mit Klaus Kinski.
In reply to Tim Chappell: I would start by getting the grammar right!
In reply to jonathan shepherd:
great film, did it predate apocalipse now, feels a bit like that i think.
> (In reply to Tim Chappell) Der beste Deutsche film, den ich kenne ist: "Aguirre der Zorn Gottes" mit Klaus Kinski.
great film, did it predate apocalipse now, feels a bit like that i think.
In reply to Daithi O Murachu:
Definitely a long time, maybe 6-8 years, before Apocalypse Now. Herzog's high point methinks.
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> great film, did it predate apocalipse now, feels a bit like that i think.
Definitely a long time, maybe 6-8 years, before Apocalypse Now. Herzog's high point methinks.
In reply to Gordon Stainforth:
gonna get that enigma of kasper hauser though
the title and small description i can find has me intrigued as to what it might be like
is it shite? anyone?
wheres Mister B.S. when you need him
gonna get that enigma of kasper hauser though
the title and small description i can find has me intrigued as to what it might be like
is it shite? anyone?
wheres Mister B.S. when you need him
In reply to toad: Wo ist Lumpi? F*ck me, just had a horrible flashback straight to 1983!
In reply to Daithi O Murachu: Have you not heard the story of Kaspar Hauser, you should watch the film or read one of the books about him, its fascinating.
In reply to jonathan shepherd:
its on he menu for tonight
> (In reply to Daithi O Murachu) Have you not heard the story of Kaspar Hauser, you should watch the film or read one of the books about him, its fascinating.
its on he menu for tonight
In reply to Nigel R:
And wasn't somebodies sister in America?
> (In reply to toad) Wo ist Lumpi? F*ck me, just had a horrible flashback straight to 1983!
And wasn't somebodies sister in America?
Pasted from my Lovefilm list
Das Boot
Run Lola Run
Goodbye Lenin!
The Counterfeiters
Downfall
North Face
Inheritors
What To Do In Case Of Fire
The Miracle Of Bern
The Edukators
Nowhere In Africa
The Baader-Meinhof Complex
Stalingrad
The Wave
Mostly Martha
Anything directed by Fatih Akin is worth a look.
Das Boot
Run Lola Run
Goodbye Lenin!
The Counterfeiters
Downfall
North Face
Inheritors
What To Do In Case Of Fire
The Miracle Of Bern
The Edukators
Nowhere In Africa
The Baader-Meinhof Complex
Stalingrad
The Wave
Mostly Martha
Anything directed by Fatih Akin is worth a look.
In reply to Tim Chappell:
Du kannst alle ZDF Programme der letzten Woche auf dem Internet anschauen, das mache ich immer - so wie der BBC- iplayer quasi.
Hier ist der Link. http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/hauptnavigation/startseite/#/hauptnavigation...
Viel Spaß
Heike
Du kannst alle ZDF Programme der letzten Woche auf dem Internet anschauen, das mache ich immer - so wie der BBC- iplayer quasi.
Hier ist der Link. http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/hauptnavigation/startseite/#/hauptnavigation...
Viel Spaß
Heike
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