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 idiotproof 24 Nov 2006
Have just recieved my 'learn latin for 10 year olds' book and CD that some on here suggested;

http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=204281&v=1#2983873

and was wondering what latin is still being used in everyday language today (directly or indirectly) except smithy quoting all the muscles (often incorrectly), as this is hardly everyday language.

for example NB (nota bene (sp)) which is latin for note well or something like that
 Richard 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

i.e. - id est
e.g. - exemplum gerere
p.s. - post scriptum

and many other common abbreviations.
 andy 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof: ceteris paribus (common use in economics, anyway), pro tem, eg, ie, vice versa - lots
O Mighty Tim 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof: Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
Quid Pro Quo.
Habeus Corpus.
Caveat Emptor.
They're off the top of my head without thinking about it!

 CJD 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

carpe diem - seize the day!
 John2 24 Nov 2006
In reply to Richard: Exempli gratia
In reply to idiotproof:

Status Quo
 Richard 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:
> (directly or indirectly)

For "indirectly" there are huge numbers of words that are derived from Latin. Examples:

Abate
Beatific
Benefactor
Debit
Decimate
Tacit
Tangible
...
 TN 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

There's lots of it in law. Much to my confusion...
 Richard 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John2:
> (In reply to Richard) Exempli gratia

I found that as well, but I recall my Latin teacher telling me it meant exemplum gerere - "to give an example", whereas the translation of exempli gratia - "for the sake of example" - seems clumsier. At least in English.

On the other hand I can't find a source backing up my Latin teacher, so...
 nacnud 24 Nov 2006
In reply to Richard: Is sic Latin?
 John2 24 Nov 2006
In reply to Richard: Well I've never heard what your Latin teacher said - exempli gratia is definitely the standard expansion of e.g.
 ste_d 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

prima facie
et al
de facto
ex officio
per se
onus
pro rata
status quo
vice versa

all the time in my office
 John2 24 Nov 2006
In reply to nacnud: Yes
 Richard 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John2:

Aye, that's what the internet seems to think (including the OED), so I'm pretty sure I was misinformed.
 Richard 24 Nov 2006
In reply to nacnud:
> (In reply to Richard) Is sic Latin?

Sic, as in sic transit gloria mundi?

Nah, probably not.
 John2 24 Nov 2006
In reply to Richard: The only useful piece of information I was ever given by one of my Latin masters was to look for a half built house with roof in place when in need of a doss in a strange city.
 Yanchik 24 Nov 2006
In reply to Richard:

vide Eyes passim ad nauseam.

Y
 ebygomm 24 Nov 2006
In reply to O Mighty Tim:

alibi
alias
bona fide
pro bono
sub poena
 climbingpixie 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

I think stet is latin for let it stand. It's something that I've seen used quite a lot.
 Yanchik 24 Nov 2006
In reply to climbingpixie:

ex pluribus unum

per ardua ad astra

Romani eunt domus
 Bokonon 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

Pro Bono
 ebygomm 24 Nov 2006
In reply to Yanchik:

> Romani eunt domus

I think you mean Romani ite domum

now write it out 100 times....

charliejorr 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

Nils carborundum
John Kirk 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof: As Ricky Gervais says

"Cogito Ergo Sum" I think therefore I am.

"Nil illigitum carborundum" don't let the bastards grind you down
 ebygomm 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John Kirk:

> "Nil illigitum carborundum" don't let the bastards grind you down

sorry, not latin

 John2 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John Kirk: I was waiting for somebody to come up with that one. You usually see 'nil illegitimis carborundum', which is a feeble attempt to translate "Don't let the bastards grind you down" into Latin.
 Simon Caldwell 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:
ipso facto
et al
ibid
qv
etc
Anonymous 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

mens rea

caveat emptor

qv

nemo iudex in sua causa,

de iure,

vendor
Anonymous 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

testator, testatrix
Anonymous 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:
oh
and the counterpart to nemo iudex, audi alterem partem
 Richard 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

But of course please note that octopus is derived from Greek, and not Latin. The plural is thus octopodes, not octopi.
Anonymous 24 Nov 2006
In reply to Anonymous:


and of course,

LEO, VIRGO,ARIES,TAURUS,GEMINI etc

MARS,PLUTO,IUPITER etc
John Kirk 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John2: Ok - don't let the classical snobs grind you down...
 Rob Naylor 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

Drummed into me in my Land Law lectures:

Cujus est solum ejus est usque ad coelum et ad inferos

John Kirk 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John2:
> (In reply to John Kirk) I was waiting for somebody to come up with that one. You usually see 'nil illegitimis carborundum', which is a feeble attempt to translate "Don't let the bastards grind you down" into Latin.

Well John2 - what is the correct translation, so I can be less feeble in future.
 ebygomm 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John Kirk:

Noli nothis permittere te terere
 John2 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John Kirk: It would be something like 'ingratis non cedendum'. At least they're genuine Latin words.
 Dave Garnett 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

De minimis lex non curat - EU food directives cannot be directly applied to UK desserts.
 Yanchik 24 Nov 2006
In reply to Dave Garnett:

I thought it meant "that's too small for our medication"

Y
charliejorr 24 Nov 2006
In reply to John Kirk:
> (
>
> "Nil illigitum carborundum"
That's the one
 KeithW 24 Nov 2006
In reply to idiotproof:

Do you know about the EU Newletter that the Finns produce in Latin?

http://www.eu2006.fi/news_and_documents/newsletters/vko47/en_GB/11641815610...
OP idiotproof 24 Nov 2006
In reply to KeithW:

Had heard of it but never had a link. Might be good to try and translate it every month as practice once I've sorted the basics

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